Godlike Productions - Discussion Forum
Users Online Now: 2,297 (Who's On?)Visitors Today: 936,449
Pageviews Today: 1,560,893Threads Today: 634Posts Today: 11,175
03:43 PM


Rate this Thread

Absolute BS Crap Reasonable Nice Amazing
 

Wilder vs Fury 2, Sat. Feb 22 @MGM, LV

 
Grey Eagle
Offer Upgrade

User ID: 72791250
United States
02/15/2020 10:35 AM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Wilder vs Fury 2, Sat. Feb 22 @MGM, LV
One week away, I suppose the conspiracy (-theory) relevance here is that it's ALREADY rigged for one or the other. We've all heard this a million times before with other matches ..

That the sports-books and oddsmakers and insider-bookies around town (LV) know what the outcome will be next Saturday night.

That being said ...

Who did they choose to take Bout #2 (first one was a DRAW)?

And do you expect Bout #3 (cuz you know its gonna be a trilogy) to be the opposite or is it "best man wins'/no fakery?

Or will this #2 be 'best man wins'/no bullshit?

Not trying to ruin it for the viewers, hell, it might NOT be rigged/predetermined/fixed.

Prognosticate away..

(Haven't picked a winner, yet; procrastinating still...)


The CBS 'insider' beta:

[link to www.cbssports.com (secure)]

Last Edited by Grey Eagle on 02/15/2020 10:36 AM
:fireplace:

"Remember when we used to treat colds and flu with chicken soup, saltwater gargles and warm tea instead of Communism?"
Grey Eagle  (OP)

User ID: 72791250
United States
02/15/2020 10:43 AM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Wilder vs Fury 2, Sat. Feb 22 @MGM, LV
Obviously, Fury is a better boxer, and Wilder is one hell of a puncher..

Styles make fights.

The over/under is 10.5 rounds, per that particular linked source.

That's a tough one also to call.

Myself, I had Fury winning their first bout by one point.

Last Edited by Grey Eagle on 02/15/2020 10:44 AM
:fireplace:

"Remember when we used to treat colds and flu with chicken soup, saltwater gargles and warm tea instead of Communism?"
TheProphecy

User ID: 8309545
United States
02/15/2020 10:43 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Wilder vs Fury 2, Sat. Feb 22 @MGM, LV
They'll probably give it to Wilder.
TheProphecy

User ID: 8309545
United States
02/15/2020 10:45 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Wilder vs Fury 2, Sat. Feb 22 @MGM, LV
Obviously, Fury is a better boxer, and Wilder is one hell of a puncher..

Styles make fights.

The over/under is 10.5 rounds, per that particular linked source.

That's tough one also to call.

Myself, I had Fury winning their first bout by one point.
 Quoting: Grey Eagle


Same I had Fury as well.

Last Edited by TheProphecy on 02/15/2020 10:46 AM
Grey Eagle  (OP)

User ID: 72791250
United States
02/15/2020 10:48 AM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Wilder vs Fury 2, Sat. Feb 22 @MGM, LV
They'll probably give it to Wilder.
 Quoting: TheProphecy


Possible. I'm leaning that way myself.

The best way to know, would be to be in Vegas and go TALK to key (insider) people THIS WEEK.

the longtime track-record pros.

Then you'll increase the odds of 'knowing'.
:fireplace:

"Remember when we used to treat colds and flu with chicken soup, saltwater gargles and warm tea instead of Communism?"
Grey Eagle  (OP)

User ID: 72791250
United States
02/15/2020 10:50 AM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Wilder vs Fury 2, Sat. Feb 22 @MGM, LV
Obviously, Fury is a better boxer, and Wilder is one hell of a puncher..

Styles make fights.

The over/under is 10.5 rounds, per that particular linked source.

That's tough one also to call.

Myself, I had Fury winning their first bout by one point.
 Quoting: Grey Eagle


Same I had Fury as well.
 Quoting: TheProphecy


So if Fury really won the 1st one, will they get you to watch #3 by giving it to Deontay this time around?
:fireplace:

"Remember when we used to treat colds and flu with chicken soup, saltwater gargles and warm tea instead of Communism?"
TheProphecy

User ID: 8309545
United States
02/15/2020 01:39 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Wilder vs Fury 2, Sat. Feb 22 @MGM, LV
Obviously, Fury is a better boxer, and Wilder is one hell of a puncher..

Styles make fights.

The over/under is 10.5 rounds, per that particular linked source.

That's tough one also to call.

Myself, I had Fury winning their first bout by one point.
 Quoting: Grey Eagle


Same I had Fury as well.
 Quoting: TheProphecy


So if Fury really won the 1st one, will they get you to watch #3 by giving it to Deontay this time around?
 Quoting: Grey Eagle


Probably and then they'll do a trilogy fight.
_M_

User ID: 78376110
Australia
02/15/2020 03:06 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Wilder vs Fury 2, Sat. Feb 22 @MGM, LV
going wilder this time.
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
still cant believe he got up.wilders face says it all.
good fight,good nightbeer2
#444
bill L
Grey Eagle  (OP)

User ID: 74793128
United States
02/15/2020 08:11 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Wilder vs Fury 2, Sat. Feb 22 @MGM, LV
going wilder this time.
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
still cant believe he got up.wilders face says it all.
good fight,good nightbeer2
 Quoting: _M_


Awesome.

Great post, friend.

We all want to see HEART more than anything when we see warriors battle.

Because heart is really the essential human-metaphor for life in general.

Cheers and props to the man or woman that doesn't give up and rises to beat the count .. against seeming insurmountable odds and dire adversity.

In ALL aspects of life itself.

Last Edited by Grey Eagle on 02/15/2020 08:12 PM
:fireplace:

"Remember when we used to treat colds and flu with chicken soup, saltwater gargles and warm tea instead of Communism?"
Grey Eagle  (OP)

User ID: 74793128
United States
02/15/2020 08:14 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Wilder vs Fury 2, Sat. Feb 22 @MGM, LV
Obviously, Fury is a better boxer, and Wilder is one hell of a puncher..

Styles make fights.

The over/under is 10.5 rounds, per that particular linked source.

That's tough one also to call.

Myself, I had Fury winning their first bout by one point.
 Quoting: Grey Eagle


Same I had Fury as well.
 Quoting: TheProphecy


So if Fury really won the 1st one, will they get you to watch #3 by giving it to Deontay this time around?
 Quoting: Grey Eagle


Probably and then they'll do a trilogy fight.
 Quoting: TheProphecy


You know it..
:fireplace:

"Remember when we used to treat colds and flu with chicken soup, saltwater gargles and warm tea instead of Communism?"
Bush Master

User ID: 74509918
United States
02/15/2020 08:45 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Wilder vs Fury 2, Sat. Feb 22 @MGM, LV
Wilder in the 4th.
Damn the torpedoes! Full speed ahead!

Oh,and screw tepco & the V.A.



:captain:
Thread: GLP-Jukebox
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 77330512
United States
02/15/2020 09:01 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Wilder vs Fury 2, Sat. Feb 22 @MGM, LV
Fury is a better boxer, technically.

Wilder is a better athlete and may have better KO power.

Classic brawler can technician (except that Lennox Lewis could beat them both consecutively in one night)
_M_

User ID: 78376110
Australia
02/16/2020 12:35 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Wilder vs Fury 2, Sat. Feb 22 @MGM, LV
going wilder this time.
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
still cant believe he got up.wilders face says it all.
good fight,good nightbeer2
 Quoting: _M_


Awesome.

Great post, friend.

We all want to see HEART more than anything when we see warriors battle.

Because heart is really the essential human-metaphor for life in general.

Cheers and props to the man or woman that doesn't give up and rises to beat the count .. against seeming insurmountable odds and dire adversity.

In ALL aspects of life itself.
 Quoting: Grey Eagle

cheers
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
#444
bill L
Grey Eagle  (OP)

User ID: 73110241
United States
02/16/2020 01:44 AM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Wilder vs Fury 2, Sat. Feb 22 @MGM, LV
Analyzing Wilder's style .. my impression is that he's not particularly disciplined, defensive-wise, not in a true boxing sense. Nothing like an EARLY Mike Tyson or a Floyd Mayweather or a Lennox Lewis (or a Pernell Whitaker .. or a Marvin Hagler or a Ray Leonard).

Wilder's greatest strength is his patience and that resolve to wait ... until his opponent relaxes (too much) and lowers his guard - and hands - one too many times. Then it's that waiting opportunistic right hand with a long long reach to the chin and ... lights out.

Big highly-skilled guys like Lennox Lewis would drive Wilder crazy, as the fight wore on. Like a WELL-conditioned Holyfield did to a defensively-weak Mike Tyson on 2 separate occasions. And I think Foreman's chin would survive Wilder's bombs. Wilder vs a YOUNG jab-master Larry Holmes would sure be interesting.

So how would a young (Mike) Tyson do against Wilder? That would depend on the date - being with Cus D'Amato or w/o D'Amato.. Tyson would have to corner Wilder though, in order to deliver the goods..

One of those two would definitely be knocked out in that theoretical bout.

Then we have Tyson Fury. Who looks (and dances) somewhat unorthodox, but fights smart, and does use his own particular defense (in spite of the knockdown by Wilder). Fury isn't a remarkable hitter, but utilizes those other skills and smarts, plus alot of heart and willpower to achieve his in-ring success.

-----------------------------------------------------------

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]


Is Wilder in the All-Time Top Five, power-wise amongst heavies? Statistically, yes. Based on %s and KOs within 3 rounds.

I say "no", based on actual/real power and his degree of 'competition'. As Wilder hits (KOs) guys when they least expect it, in all rounds. Definitely there in the Top Twelve or Top Twenty Heavyweights (of alltime). He's the most opportunistic Heavyweight I think I have seen since a young Mike Tyson. Similar to a stalking/searching Julian Jackson (hard-hitting middleweight).

No (power) comparison to Earnie Shavers, George Foreman, Ken Norton, Dempsey, Mike Tyson, Lennox Lewis, Holyfield, Donovan 'Razzor' Ruddock - all in their PRIME..

And Wilder's chin is nothing special, either.

Last Edited by Grey Eagle on 02/16/2020 01:56 AM
:fireplace:

"Remember when we used to treat colds and flu with chicken soup, saltwater gargles and warm tea instead of Communism?"
_M_

User ID: 78376110
Australia
02/16/2020 02:31 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Wilder vs Fury 2, Sat. Feb 22 @MGM, LV
Analyzing Wilder's style .. my impression is that he's not particularly disciplined, defensive-wise, not in a true boxing sense. Nothing like an EARLY Mike Tyson or a Floyd Mayweather or a Lennox Lewis (or a Pernell Whitaker .. or a Marvin Hagler or a Ray Leonard).

Wilder's greatest strength is his patience and that resolve to wait ... until his opponent relaxes (too much) and lowers his guard - and hands - one too many times. Then it's that waiting opportunistic right hand with a long long reach to the chin and ... lights out.

Big highly-skilled guys like Lennox Lewis would drive Wilder crazy, as the fight wore on. Like a WELL-conditioned Holyfield did to a defensively-weak Mike Tyson on 2 separate occasions. And I think Foreman's chin would survive Wilder's bombs. Wilder vs a YOUNG jab-master Larry Holmes would sure be interesting.

So how would a young (Mike) Tyson do against Wilder? That would depend on the date - being with Cus D'Amato or w/o D'Amato.. Tyson would have to corner Wilder though, in order to deliver the goods..

One of those two would definitely be knocked out in that theoretical bout.

Then we have Tyson Fury. Who looks (and dances) somewhat unorthodox, but fights smart, and does use his own particular defense (in spite of the knockdown by Wilder). Fury isn't a remarkable hitter, but utilizes those other skills and smarts, plus alot of heart and willpower to achieve his in-ring success.

-----------------------------------------------------------

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]


Is Wilder in the All-Time Top Five, power-wise amongst heavies? Statistically, yes. Based on %s and KOs within 3 rounds.

I say "no", based on actual/real power and his degree of 'competition'. Definitely there in the Top Twelve or Twenty Heavyweights (of alltime).

No comparison to Earnie Shavers, George Foreman, Ken Norton, Dempsey, Mike Tyson, Lennox Lewis, Holyfield..

And Wilder's chin is nothing special, either.
 Quoting: Grey Eagle


yeah good call,a very good technician vs a supreme athlete,but to the caliber?think individually their traits are comparable.general toughness,grit,more showbiz than genuine menace in the psych game.i dont think these guys today fight enough.makes the divisions less competitive,reliant on hype and self promotion.
#444
bill L
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 78023757
United States
02/16/2020 02:33 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Wilder vs Fury 2, Sat. Feb 22 @MGM, LV
Fury by tko
SocialEnigma
User ID: 77835141
Canada
02/16/2020 02:52 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Wilder vs Fury 2, Sat. Feb 22 @MGM, LV
Wilder. The fights typically end after he identifies a hole in his opponents defense his power is a real fight changer.

I like Fury, he has a lot of heart and mental toughness but sometimes you meet a guy who has your number.

I think Wilder found his number late in the last fight and remembered it since.

It'll take a few rounds but it'll happen. Fury in his back once again.
_M_

User ID: 78491985
Australia
02/18/2020 12:32 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Wilder vs Fury 2, Sat. Feb 22 @MGM, LV
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
#444
bill L
_M_

User ID: 78491985
Australia
02/19/2020 01:52 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Wilder vs Fury 2, Sat. Feb 22 @MGM, LV
watched the first fight again.remember first time we watched it i said the British commentary was a little bias.still thought wilder won,but fury fought an excellent fight.not enough damage.i agree with teddy here.


[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

as for the australian,the 6-7 guy looked like a wet drink of water.ozi is an Olympian,you'd think he can box.

i shoulda rolled denny @ daytona into wilder.kicking myself.nutkick

i did get up to 288$ on an all up,but lost 3rd leg.if i dont hit on thursday,may bet wilder in the first 3 rounds.
#444
bill L
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 22724263
United States
02/19/2020 03:06 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Wilder vs Fury 2, Sat. Feb 22 @MGM, LV
reality



make any real money ?

yes or no ?
_M_

User ID: 78491985
Australia
02/19/2020 04:16 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Wilder vs Fury 2, Sat. Feb 22 @MGM, LV
reality



make any real money ?

yes or no ?
 Quoting: Soup


on the punt,definitely no.perpetually all in.


#444
bill L
_M_

User ID: 78491985
Australia
02/19/2020 08:21 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Wilder vs Fury 2, Sat. Feb 22 @MGM, LV
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
#444
bill L
Grey Eagle  (OP)

User ID: 75166989
United States
02/19/2020 11:34 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Wilder vs Fury 2, Sat. Feb 22 @MGM, LV
It's Hype and Prediction Week in Las Vegas.

And Trump shows up on Friday..

Boxer predictions:



All I'm saying right now is .. if it goes 12, Fury wins. If it's an under 12 result, Wilder wins..

Can Fury actually knock Wilder out? We all know Wilder can perhaps knock Fury down a few times...

And what is each man going to do differently or do the same this time around ...

Lessons learned??

I'm leaning toward the under on this one, btw..

Last Edited by Grey Eagle on 02/19/2020 11:34 PM
:fireplace:

"Remember when we used to treat colds and flu with chicken soup, saltwater gargles and warm tea instead of Communism?"
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 78499845
Ireland
02/19/2020 11:34 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Wilder vs Fury 2, Sat. Feb 22 @MGM, LV
Feel the Fury!!!

You got this Tyson!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 78499845
Ireland
02/19/2020 11:35 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Wilder vs Fury 2, Sat. Feb 22 @MGM, LV
Can someone be so kind as to post some links for the fight?
Grey Eagle  (OP)

User ID: 75166989
United States
02/19/2020 11:36 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Wilder vs Fury 2, Sat. Feb 22 @MGM, LV
Trash-talking' ..


:fireplace:

"Remember when we used to treat colds and flu with chicken soup, saltwater gargles and warm tea instead of Communism?"
_M_

User ID: 78491985
Australia
02/20/2020 03:44 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Wilder vs Fury 2, Sat. Feb 22 @MGM, LV
forgot what i was going to sayscratching

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
#444
bill L
Grey Eagle  (OP)

User ID: 75166989
United States
02/20/2020 04:12 AM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Wilder vs Fury 2, Sat. Feb 22 @MGM, LV

:fireplace:

"Remember when we used to treat colds and flu with chicken soup, saltwater gargles and warm tea instead of Communism?"
Grey Eagle  (OP)

User ID: 75166989
United States
02/20/2020 04:18 AM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Wilder vs Fury 2, Sat. Feb 22 @MGM, LV
Bradley sez no way it's going 12..


:fireplace:

"Remember when we used to treat colds and flu with chicken soup, saltwater gargles and warm tea instead of Communism?"
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 72286611
United Kingdom
02/20/2020 04:29 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Wilder vs Fury 2, Sat. Feb 22 @MGM, LV
forgot what i was going to sayscratching

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
 Quoting: _M_




What a fabulous bosom
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 72286611
United Kingdom
02/20/2020 04:30 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Wilder vs Fury 2, Sat. Feb 22 @MGM, LV
Fury in the 2nd round





GLP