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A little Herb Summary vs COVID-19

 
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Nice thread

Home remedies like milk and hiney or whiskey and hiney work i think because the nikk or whiskey creates mucous trapping the virus and the honey breaks the mucous barrier and expells it.
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Milk and whiskey works because you don't mind being ill
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milk is an inflammatory for most people, just drink whiskey
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6 months of food and water. Liposomal vitamin c is excellent for the lungs,oreganol p73, nebulize colloidal silver for lung infection, garlic and honey for the antibiotics and pure lemon juice
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I found that nebulizing colloidal leaves the particles in the bowl.
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Nice thread

Home remedies like milk and hiney or whiskey and hiney work i think because the milk or whiskey creates mucous trapping the virus and the honey breaks the mucous barrier and expells it.
 Quoting: Undestroyer


Love a good glass of whiskey now and then!

Gotta say though, didnt know that honey, lemon juice and whiskey is a home remedy for cough.. thanks for the input :-)
 Quoting: Nagabonar666


Thank you yesi just recently discovered the vehicle i just described trying to figure out why milk and honey is an old Polish home remedy to fight a cold.

[link to lunginstitute.com (secure)]

Actually combining a mucous producing food with a mucous eliminating food from the lists in the link will provide a similar result.
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I just realize thats actually pretty important information... Since pneumonia is a common find in 2019-nCoV infected, hence avoiding food that makes mucus discharge worse (at least at the infected stage) may be very well as important as finding food that lessens the discharge....?
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To clear your head of muccas just slice a strong onion and put it in a bag. Put bag to nose and mouth. With eyes shut inhale through the nose. Open eyes and exhale through mouth. This will sting like fuck. Do this until vapours have depleted. You will cry and snot out all the muccas. I thought of this when I was cooking with a cold,the onion relieved it a lot. I call it Onion Therapy. Try it and see.
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Love a good glass of whiskey now and then!

Gotta say though, didnt know that honey, lemon juice and whiskey is a home remedy for cough.. thanks for the input :-)
 Quoting: Nagabonar666


Thank you yesi just recently discovered the vehicle i just described trying to figure out why milk and honey is an old Polish home remedy to fight a cold.

[link to lunginstitute.com (secure)]

Actually combining a mucous producing food with a mucous eliminating food from the lists in the link will provide a similar result.
 Quoting: Undestroyer


I just realize thats actually pretty important information... Since pneumonia is a common find in 2019-nCoV infected, hence avoiding food that makes mucus discharge worse (at least at the infected stage) may be very well as important as finding food that lessens the discharge....?
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To clear your head of muccas just slice a strong onion and put it in a bag. Put bag to nose and mouth. With eyes shut inhale through the nose. Open eyes and exhale through mouth. This will sting like fuck. Do this until vapours have depleted. You will cry and snot out all the muccas. I thought of this when I was cooking with a cold,the onion relieved it a lot. I call it Onion Therapy. Try it and see.
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Actually, an onion poultice on the bronchs and lungs will draw mucous out as well.

I'm going to suggest a pin for this thread...hf
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The Carvacrol is too low on the Oreganol P73 (only 62%). I am currently using 80% minimum. It has to be at least 70% minimum.
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Things are bad enough, there is no need to make anything up. ~Fluffy

"Never interrupt an enemy in the process of destroying himself."

Quercitin and zinc...Get it. Take it.

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Researchers have determined that quercetin’s antiviral activity is a result of a variety of multiple different actions. Some of the primary mechanisms may include one or more of the following in reaction to any given condition:

Reducing the ability of a virus to infect cells (infectability).
Inhibiting the ability of infected cells to replicate and reproduce.
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Hi everyone, sorry i couldnt tend much to this thread lately. Business and hospitality is going haywire here in Bali.. many people loosing jobs, hotel occupancies drop like crazy...

Anyway, i would like to point out the low numbers of cases reported in south east asia, even though cases happened here first after china (Thailand, phillipines,Singapore, India... But also Indonesia up until now only 6 cases)My personal theory is that one of the main factors, why it did not break out so badly is because of the rich anti-viral daily diet here
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Hi Bodhi, i tried to find out about effects on Cytokine production by Osha Roots (Ligusticum porteri), could not find much.

But in the following study related to leukemia treatment it seems that Osha significantly increases cytokine (hence could make a Cytokine Storm worse):

Treatment with 400 g/mL L. porteri significantly (P < 0.05) increased IFN-y; and IL-2 in H2O2-challenged cells
[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]

IFNy=Interferon gamma (IFNy) is a dimerized soluble cytokine produced by white blood cells.

Maybe if you would have another reference.. cheers
 Quoting: Nagabonar666


Good Find.

Damn, that stuff really clears out the fluids from the lungs, as well as all traces of respiratory problems.

I found this: [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]

Most excellent resource about cytokines.

Pleases double check me on this, as I am getting that there are many different types of cytokines and only the ones deemed "inflammatory" are responsible for the damage of the cytokine storm.

"Interferons.
The interferons (IFNs) are a family of cytokines that play a central role in innate immunity to viruses and other microbial pathogens."

The interferons seem like keepers to me.

That link is really a great resource on the subject, as it also references SARS - and H1N1.

They talk about balancing out the cytokines, and this may just be really important.

hf
 Quoting: ~Bodhi 77930780


Hi Bodhi - indeed, that is why i deleted my response but you got there quicker! Apologies for me being to fast to draw a coclusionhf

The more i dive deeper, the more mind boggling it gets about the variety and different ways these herbals work, specifically in regards to Cytokine network and control

Ocha root increases production of the anti-inflammatory mediator IFNy for anti-inflammatory cytokine interleukin-10 (also increases its production), thereby reducing pro-inflammatory cytokine TNF

Similar to the way Chaparall plant works, will include Ocha Root to the front page :-)

Since you have experience with it, do you recommend Ocha root to take on regular basis?

Do you think that ocha roots active ingredient, acts as a protective compound against Cytokine storm? (for example some research shows that Turmerics ingredient Curcumin does so)
 Quoting: Nagabonar666


I am so glad you brought this up in the first place. It was the feeling I had that led me to that epic link about cytokines. This is why I love intelligent conversations here.

hf

So for anyone who doesn't want to read it, the conclusion is that there are several types of cytokines that all basically manage the immune system in it's entirety.

Some are the cause of cytokine storms, while others prevent and are helpful in the fight against viruses.

Now we can look at herbal medicines that are proven to work against viruses and see which ones are the best.

I first learned about Osha from a local medicine man (southwest US). They chew on the root (little pieces) and then would spit it on their hands too. For protection.

Please put a warning about use if pregnant, as it can cause menses.

I would save the big doses (tinctures) for when the body needs it, as far as using it every day.

In my experience with adults and children, Osha works fastest when taken at first signs. As with all herbals.

Within 48 hours of dosages, all symptoms have cleared up including cough, pain in chest, wheezing and closed airways.

As a "sensitive" person this medicine goes straight to the chest/lung area upon consumption and expands only in that area.
 Quoting: Bodhi Sita

Sorry late reply, Master Bodhi! I think i switched off from all this doom news, and the economic repercussions have hit really hard where i live. Its heart-breaking to see when other people at same workplace loose their jobs..

Anyway, we are in for the long game it seems and this thread may hopefully help some people, even if it is only 1 other person i am already happy... i added Ocha Root under Herbs section in front and also added the requested warning... Cheers

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Hi OP I would add pelargonium to this list [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]
 Quoting: Polish Avenger


Nice find! and our first African candidate.. pelargonium is a South African plant, which may be quite effective against respiratory illness ... [link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)]

Queued for further research....
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1. Ginger (anti oxidant, anti inflammation, cleans excess mucus from lungs)
2. Turmeric (anti viral, anti bacterial)
3. Shallot onion (cleanses throat and helps with throat inflammation)

"Jamu" recipe (use translate) with above ingredients: [link to jabar.tribunnews.com (secure)]

4. Apple (rich in phenolic acid and flavonoids, known to help control lung inflammation , to help with asthma)

5. Garlic (rich in allicin, useful against bacterial lung infection)

6. Green tea (removes fluids from lungs)

7. Food rich in "Carotenoids" like carrots, spinach, kale or pumpkin (antioxidant vitamins are positively associated with lung function and respiratory health)

8.And the best one i put at last, we call it in Indonesia "cocor bebek (duck leave)" , Latin: "kalanchoe pinnata", and it supposed to have mystical healing properties for injured or sick lungs.

[link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)]

A recipe for this one:

[link to m.liputan6.com (secure)]

So you see.. coronavirus might be all doom & gloom, but i strongly believe that for every sickness, nature already prepared the answer loooong in advance... So cheer up, positive thinking and stay healthy




Edit to add - Thanks to "Undestroyer" for pointing this out: Avoiding Food that makes mucus discharge worse, may very well be as important as finding food that lessens the discharge

[link to lunginstitute.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Nagabonar666


More dangerous and stupid advice, right up there with anti vex moms who are surprised when their kids die.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75173205


Your input is dully noted, everyone has a right to their own opinion.

I am smoking a pack of cigarretes everyday since 20 years.

Last night i made myself a nice turmeric and ginger juice, had some green tea before i slept, and ate some honey during the day. This morning i woke up and inhaled air deeply.. it was the best breath i felt in for a long time, it lasted the whole morning. I also felt that my body was constantly trying to get phlegm & excess mucus out of my lungs during the day... Back to the roots
 Quoting: Nagabonar666


To the anti vax comment. If you meet a non antivax mother, you've met an uneducated mother.

Nature definitely has the cure. I'm going to throw out 2 things. Glutahione, which is a supplement, not an herb. And Lobelia. Lobelia cleans out the lungs and heals them, but I am not sure of all the ins and outs of it with pneumonia, so more research needs to be done there. Also, glutathione helps rebuild and heal the lungs. I haven't heard anything about it that may contraindicate it for pneumonia. There are foods and herbs that contain high amounts of glutathione.

I really appreciate this thread, OP. Focusing on solutions is much more positive, and therefore life enhancing.

Not that we should be cavalier with this, just that there have to be answers. Because even if it was man made, it's just a man made perversion of what is natural.
 Quoting: Fluffy Pancakes


Greatly appreciate your comment, Fluffy! Queuing up Glutahione and Lobelia for depper examination.. sounds promising indeed.

Also to you sorry for late replying (see posts above/ the negative doom meter has been too much for me on this site)... Yes i definately think that life must go on, and as long as we live we must not stop to look for a solution to any problem thrown at us. Positive mindset is the foundation of any great idea...

Well said about the man made perversion and nature

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Thanks for sharing
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Clove Oil
Blue Yarrow
Mullein Leaf
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Skullcap (Chinese/ Amercian)
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lemon balm
medowsweet
mullein
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Neem capsules. One of the few anti-bacteria AND anti-viral natural solutions. Been used for thousands of years by the Chinese and Indians (from India). From the neem tree.


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Excellent!

Indeed, Neem is another Ayurvedic plant (actually a tree) which has been used since ancient times, and has many medicinal benefits.

Immune Booster and supports the Respiratory system

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]
[link to www.banyanbotanicals.com (secure)]
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clappa
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Kratom
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Kratom
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Care to elaborate more? I read kratom may cause respiratory depression... (Besides classified as narcotic in many countries)
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Tonic water (Quinine) and Absinthe (wormwood), both antimalarials.
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In this thread, we compile a list of natural remedies from around the world, to fight and to protect from Coronavirus COVID-19. To strengthen lungs, respiratory system, the immune system and even layout an alternative to avoid Cytokyne Storm, caused by COVID-19.

Any additional suggestions, please feel free to share, lets examine it, and I will add to the list in the 2nd post below

Let's start with known herbs from Indonesia, with thousands of years of experience in using herbal medicine provided by its vast jungles, for example "Jamu": [link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)] . People here are used to some of the worst viruses making its rounds as i write this (dengue fever, malaria, Zika virus, rabies with 100% mortality rate just to name a few) also are used to all kind of viruses coming down from china (bird flu, swine flu, etc etc).
Note: eventhough much closer to china with hundreds of thousands monthly tourists to south east asia, COVID-19 just didnt explode here as worse as other countries. Logically it should have started much earlier already, and much worse due to unsanitary and poor health systems and overcrowded populations. I believe that besides the weather and humidity, diet and daily food ingredients play a big role as to why. For example turmeric is used in the majority of dishes here (also used a lot in India).

Anyway, if you are interested, do a bit of research on your own... You can make many types of drink and tea mixes (recommend regular intake to build your wall) with any of the following:

1. Ginger (anti oxidant, anti inflammation, cleans excess mucus from lungs)

2. Turmeric (anti viral, anti bacterial)

scroll down to 3rd post for Turmeric Golden Tea Recipe

3. Shallot onion (cleanses throat and helps with throat inflammation)

4. Apple (rich in phenolic acid and flavonoids, known to help control lung inflammation , to help with asthma)

5. Garlic (rich in allicin, useful against bacterial lung infection)

6. Green tea (removes fluids from lungs)

7. Food rich in "Carotenoids" like carrots, spinach, kale or pumpkin (antioxidant vitamins are positively associated with lung function and respiratory health)

8.And the best one i put at last, we call it "cocor bebek (duck leave)"Latin: "kalanchoe pinnata", and it supposed to have mystical healing properties for injured or sick lungs.
[link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)]

I strongly believe that for every sickness, nature already prepared the answer loooong in advance... So cheer up, positive thinking and stay healthy!!


Edit to add 1 - From "Undestroyer" for pointing this out: Avoiding Food that makes mucus discharge worse, may very well be as important as finding food that lessens the discharge
[link to lunginstitute.com (secure)]

Edit to add 2 - Turmeric & Ginger, recommended by a physician, who went through real SHTF in Venezuela and sharing his experience how to survive:
[link to my72.news.blog (secure)]

Edit to add 3 - Cytokine Storm (Immune system overdrive: [link to www.sciencedaily.com (secure)] during severe COVID-19 infection. Some herbs may increase the severity of Cytokine Storm. (for example Elderberry which boosts the immune system, but also increases pro-inflammatory Cytokine production)
Other herbs may decrease the severity of Cytokine Storm (for example turmeric)
 Quoting: Nagabonar666


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....So cheer up, positive thinking and stay healthy!!


Edit to add 1 - From "Undestroyer" for pointing this out: Avoiding Food that makes mucus discharge worse, may very well be as important as finding food that lessens the discharge
[link to lunginstitute.com (secure)]

Edit to add 2 - Turmeric & Ginger, recommended by a physician, who went through real SHTF in Venezuela and sharing his experience how to survive:
[link to my72.news.blog (secure)]

Edit to add 3 - Cytokine Storm (Immune system overdrive: [link to www.sciencedaily.com (secure)] during severe COVID-19 infection. Some herbs may increase the severity of Cytokine Storm. (for example Elderberry which boosts the immune system, but also increases pro-inflammatory Cytokine production)
Other herbs may decrease the severity of Cytokine Storm (for example turmeric)
 Quoting: Nagabonar666


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 Quoting: LostRabbit


Flagging traditional medicine used thousands of years as BS.. lol?

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THIS will kills ALL viruses


T H I E V E S

OIL



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THIS will kills ALL viruses


T H I E V E S

OIL



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Thanks a lot for this tip! I think thieves oil has the potential to be included in the recipe section since it is a mix of potent remedies for respiratory, different herb oils (such as eucalyptus, lemon balm and cinnamon)

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Not an herbal remedy, but Ivermectin has shown it kills the all virus in less than 48 hours. It is available at any farm store to treat parasites on animals. It is safe, and you don't put it in your body, just on your skin. Every year I use it to treat all my animals, and end up with my hands and arms covered with it. It's about time to treat, right now as parasites ramp up in the spring time.
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Have not seen black seed oil mentioned.
Wish I didn't know now what I didn't know then.

If the more I know, the more I know I don’t know, then do I truly know what I know because I know I don’t?

You cannot reach a correct conclusion if you begin with an incorrect assumption
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Have not seen black seed oil mentioned.
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Black seed in summary on second post, has been mentioned before .. peace

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Not an herbal remedy, but Ivermectin has shown it kills the all virus in less than 48 hours. It is available at any farm store to treat parasites on animals. It is safe, and you don't put it in your body, just on your skin. Every year I use it to treat all my animals, and end up with my hands and arms covered with it. It's about time to treat, right now as parasites ramp up in the spring time.
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Do you have a reference available?
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THIS will kills ALL viruses


T H I E V E S

OIL



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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78734916


Thanks a lot for this tip! I think thieves oil has the potential to be included in the recipe section since it is a mix of potent for respiratory herb oils (such as eucalyptus, lemon balm and cinnamon)
 Quoting: Nagabonar666



Your welcome OP.

Notice in the link at the end of the story how the ladies nurse daughter was the ONLY ONE to kill the bacterial virus etc because of Thieves Oil?

We have used it for years, AMAZING results.

www.youngliving.com is where to purchase it, amazingly their website only allows one to be purchased a month! Unheard of before Covid-19.

The spray is also great, we do a short press of the spray bottle in our mouth every day - it was out of stock so we fortunately were able to order all 5 Cert Organic essential oils on Ebay, before the stocks are depleted, and they will be as the lockdowns continue.

LIPOSOMAL liquid Vit C and D3 with K are also a must to have.





GLP