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User ID: 78746909 United States 04/12/2020 02:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From China TCM Quoting: Jutlander Prescription 1 for prevention Huang Qi -----> Astragalus membranaceus Fang Feng -----> Ledebouriella divaricata Bai Zhu -----> Atractylodes macrocephala Huo Xiang -----> Agastache rugosa Jin Yin Hua -----> Lonicera japonica Lian Qiao -----> Forsythia suspensa Gan Cao -----> Glycyrrhiza uralensis Chen Pi -----> Citrus reticulata Prescription 2 for relieving the symptoms Bai Zhu -----> Atractylodes macrocephala Ban Xia -----> Pinellia ternata Chai Hu -----> Bupleurum chinensis Chen Pi -----> Citrus reticulata Da Zao -----> Ziziphus jujuba Fang Feng -----> Ledebouriella divaricata Gan Cao -----> Glycyrrhiza uralensis Guan Zhong -----> Dryopteris crassirhizoma Huang Qi -----> Astragalus membranaceus Huang Qin -----> Scutellaria baicalensis Huo Xiang -----> Agastache rugosa Jie Geng -----> Platycodon grandiflorum Jin Yin Hua -----> Lonicera japonica Jing Jie -----> Schizonepeta tenuifolia Lian Qiao -----> Forsythia suspensa Sheng Jiang Pi -----> Zingiber officinalis Tai Zi Shen -----> Pseudostellaria heterophylla Great list! Thanks a lot, super appreciated. Have been waiting for someone to provide list of Chinese herbs... Either the Chinese are really good at cover up, have a magical "vaccine", simply are not telling the truth... Or... the herbs are the real cure they found, hence Wuhan and China economy back online... On the list Fang Feng -----> Ledebouriella divaricata, it's contraindicated for people with blood problems. COVID-19 has proven to cause blood problems in the hemoglobin and hematocrit. Fang Feng may effect oxygen carrying capacity. Ledebouriella divaricata root The Ledebouriella divaricata root has many therapeutic properties but it is contraindicated in patients with blood related problems. [link to wiki.naturalwellbeing.com] . INFJ; We are the protectors. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78719836 United States 04/12/2020 03:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.phoenixnewtimes.com (secure)] Quoting: Bodhi Sita " While the world awaits a man-made coronavirus vaccine, Valley-area researchers are scrambling to uncover a more natural and controversial type of treatment: herbal remedies. Arizona State University and the Southwest College of Naturopathic Medicine in Tempe are collaborating on a research project focused on finding botanicals — or medicinal, plant-based herbal treatments — for COVID-19, the deadly disease caused by the novel coronavirus. The effort is spearheaded by Jeffrey Langland, a virologist with 33 years of experience. Langland is an assistant research professor at ASU’s Biodesign Center for Immunotherapy, Vaccines and Virotherapy, and an associate professor of medical microbiology at the Southwest College of Naturopathic Medicine in Tempe." I seriously want to get in touch with this guy! I have some suggestions for the study. I might even have something that worked for me here - but with no testing, how will we know? (If anyone can pull strings, phone a friend - Pls inbox me.) OP - Great list to submit to test. *Edit - this study is taking place about 45 minutes from my house!!!!! Just private messaged you a link with Mr Langland's email and phone number...good luck in reaching, keep us updated pls You are the best! Truly! Thank you! Will update in this thread. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78719836 United States 04/12/2020 03:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Propolis (CAPE) mixed WITH grape seed extract (reservatrol) = complete cytokine knockout Quoting: Jutlander GPE + PR combination Grape polyphenols and propolis mixture inhibits inflammatory mediator release from human leukocytes and reduces clinical scores in experimental arthritis Quoting: Jutlander [link to www.sciencedirect.com (secure)] Abstract Polyphenols from red fruits and bee-derived propolis (PR) are bioactive natural products in various in vitro and in vivo models. The present study shows that hematotoxicity-free doses of grape polyphenols (GPE) and PR differentially decreased the secretion of pro-inflammatory cytokines from activated human peripheral blood leucocytes. While GPE inhibited the monocytes/macrophage response, propolis decreased both monokines and interferon γ (IFNγ) production. When used together, their distinct effects lead to the attenuation of ALL inflammatory mediators, as supported by a significant modulation of the transcriptomic profile of pro-inflammatory genes in human leukocytes. To enforce in vitro data, GPE + PR were tested for their ability to improve clinical scores and cachexia in chronic rat adjuvant-induced arthritis (AA). Extracts significantly reduced arthritis scores and cachexia, and this effect was more significant in animals receiving continuous low doses compared to those receiving five different high doses. Animals treated daily had significantly better clinical scores than corticoid-treated rats. Together, these findings indicate that the GPE + PR combination induces potent anti-inflammatory activity due to their complementary immune cell modulation. Propolis is sourced by the bees from tree sap. From: [link to www.hindawi.com (secure)] The composition of propolis is not fixed and varies considerably from region to region along with vegetation, from season to season, and from hive to hive. In each sample of propolis, more than 80 to 100 chemical compounds are typically identified [94]. Altogether, at least 180 different compounds have been identified in propolis so far. ... Dr Karl Lund Aagaard, a Danish biologist, earned the name “Dr Propolis” for his exploits of over 20 years of propolis collecting and research. After observing the effects of propolis on more than 50,000 patients in Scandinavia, Dr Aagaard drew the following conclusions: The field of influence of Propolis is extremely broad. It includes cancer, infection of the urinary tract, swelling of the throat, gout, open wounds, sinus congestion, colds, influenza, bronchitis, gastritis, diseases of the ears, periodontal disease, intestinal infections, ulcers, eczema eruptions, pneumonia, arthritis, lung disease, stomach virus, headaches, Parkinson’s disease, bile infections, sclerosis, circulation deficiencies, warts, conjunctivitis and hoarseness [102]. ... Propolis is reputed to have antiseptic, antibacterial, antimycotic, astringent, spasmolytic, anti-inflammatory, anaesthetic, antioxidant, antitumoural, antifungal, antiulcer, anticancer, and immunomodulatory effects Nice! Great info! I have been using it for over 20 years. I didn't know it was cultivated from such a broad spectrum though. Epic. My source presses them into pills, which I love - And just intuitively doubled his production last summer. I have known him for over 25 years. It takes 5 months to press them. He is using propolis daily with Vit D for this crap. The great thing about propolis as an antibiotic is that the body does not develop a tolerance, and so far neither has anything that we have treated with it for the last 25 years or more. Clears Strep throat if taken at onset of symptoms in 2 days if taken with royal jelly and vit d. I really need to get into this study. Much Love. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78719836 United States 04/12/2020 04:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thought I would drop this here one more time - as it is relevant to the Chinese Medicines used. [link to www.elotus.org (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78731977 United States 04/12/2020 04:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Some of these plants like oregano and save you can use in a dry herb vaporizer that get the essences directly to blood system/lungs. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78731977 *NOT the essential oils in a vaporize,that could be dangerous! Grind up the plant matter and use in the vaporizer. Not too dry or too moist though. Get the herbs fresh from store, not the dried kind in bottle and let them dry out a little or vaporize through 2 cycles to get all essences. *sage Not save. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78762771 Ireland 04/12/2020 06:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just a wonder there OP as I read threads such as this. We try to learn of ways to avoid death and yet death is written within our DNA. There is no escape from death regardless of what we learn or believe. We are born to learn death. It is what we are... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78762771 Indeed. Even if you could hide inside a stone, death will still pick you up. Fate. But we must not stop to try and do good and keep ourselves healthy, so that next stage (death) may be a joyous ride Not a thing wrong with trying to be healthy, but health of the mind is most likely true health... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 43968256 Canada 04/12/2020 07:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Reishi Mushroom: Fight Cancer, Boost Immunity & Improve Liver Detox [link to draxe.com (secure)] Thanks for this thread OP!! Its a great herbal reference!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78784689 Germany 04/12/2020 07:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | L-Glutathoine inhibits Corona viruses.. there is a lot of it in Avocado's and Tomato's.. or you can buy some supplements.. Especially older people syntethise less of it in the body.. [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)] EXCELLENT THREAD |
Terrebonne
User ID: 78746909 United States 04/12/2020 07:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sorry I mispelled it the first time. Its Yunzhi, the cousin of Lingzhi, another valuable mushroom. Both have immunological function. Lingzhi is also called the Reishi mushroom. . INFJ; We are the protectors. |
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(OP) User ID: 78783665 Indonesia 04/12/2020 08:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sorry I mispelled it the first time. Its Yunzhi, the cousin of Lingzhi, another valuable mushroom. Both have immunological function. Lingzhi is also called the Reishi mushroom. . Good point there! Thanks for the info. hence both need to be placed next to each other, i think Found this: For example, although Yunzhi and Lingzhi are both mushrooms (cousins), their functions are both similar and different, so it is important to make the distinction to know what product will best fit a person’s particular health needs. [link to hyy.com.hk] Side note: may also be used as supplement in some Singaporean clinics for cancer treatment supplement... [link to www.euyansang.com.sg (secure)] Last Edited by Nagabonar666 on 04/12/2020 08:37 PM |
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(OP) User ID: 78783665 Indonesia 04/12/2020 08:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bump for timely info. Quoting: Nrg Haven't gone through every page, any mention of astaxanthin, c60, or Shilajit as a good immunity builder? Never heard of ... how do you know these? please kindly elaborate... thanks a lot! Last Edited by Nagabonar666 on 04/12/2020 09:06 PM |
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(OP) User ID: 78783665 Indonesia 04/12/2020 09:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Based on the additional and older comments, here is a summary of herbs not yet examined and referenced (thus not yet in front page summary) Herbs - Licorice Root - White Horehound - Tulsi (Basil) - Astragalus - Absinthe/ Wormwood - Angelica Archangelica root - Buckwheat/ Buckwheat Tea - Tinospora cordifolia/ Guduchi - Yerba Santa/ Holy Weed - Irish Sea Moss - Star Anise - Lobelia Inflata/ Indian tobacco - Chaga Mushroom - Pau d'arco Tea - Cordyceps Fungus - Cat's Claw - Rhodiola - Malabar Nut - Echinacea - Asafoetida/ Ferula herb - Goldenseal - Pelargonium - Hyssop - Blue Yarrow - Olive Leaf Extract - Anamu - Saffron - Graviola - St Johns Wort - Cayenne Pepper - Reishi Mushroom/ LingZhi - "red zhi" - Turkey Tail Mushroom/ YunZhi - "green zhi" - Food/ Herbs high with Zinc Mineral - Food/ Herbs rich in Glutathione Anti-Oxidant - Food/ Herbs rich in Thiamine (vitamin B1), which may help to avoid/ suppress sepsis (one of primary cause of death by COVID-19)? *Thanks to member "Terrebonne" for research and pointing out the potential Thiamine and COVID-19/ Sepsis relation (among several other on this thread) Uncle TCM (Traditional Chinese Medicine) prescription vs COVID-19 *provided by member "Jutlander" on page 11 Prescription 1 for prevention Huang Qi -----> Astragalus membranaceus Fang Feng -----> Ledebouriella divaricata Bai Zhu -----> Atractylodes macrocephala Huo Xiang -----> Agastache rugosa Jin Yin Hua -----> Lonicera japonica Lian Qiao -----> Forsythia suspensa Gan Cao -----> Glycyrrhiza uralensis Chen Pi -----> Citrus reticulata Prescription 2 for relieving the symptoms Bai Zhu -----> Atractylodes macrocephala Ban Xia -----> Pinellia ternata Chai Hu -----> Bupleurum chinensis Chen Pi -----> Citrus reticulata Da Zao -----> Ziziphus jujuba Fang Feng -----> Ledebouriella divaricata Gan Cao -----> Glycyrrhiza uralensis Guan Zhong -----> Dryopteris crassirhizoma Huang Qi -----> Astragalus membranaceus Huang Qin -----> Scutellaria baicalensis Huo Xiang -----> Agastache rugosa Jie Geng -----> Platycodon grandiflorum Jin Yin Hua -----> Lonicera japonica Jing Jie -----> Schizonepeta tenuifolia Lian Qiao -----> Forsythia suspensa Sheng Jiang Pi -----> Zingiber officinalis Tai Zi Shen -----> Pseudostellaria heterophylla Not Included to Herb Summary on Frontpage (pls feel free to dispute): - Elderberry (Potential to increase severity of Cytokine storm [link to integrativemedicine.arizona.edu (secure)] - L-histidine (not a herb per se, but an amino acid [link to www.winchesterhospital.org (secure)] Please post herb which improves health in relation to COVID-19 with L-histidine increase abilities ) - Liposomal Vitamin C (not a herb per se, but a drug preparation. [link to www.cancer.gov (secure)] Note: Vitamin C is recommended by many as important bulkwark for immune system and treatment for pneumonia. - Quercetin (exchanging with Buckwheat/ Buckwheat Tea which has Quercetin (Rutin) compound and traditional Russian basic food with anti-virus abilities [link to korfoodinnovation.com] - Ephedra (Even though it may have potential as a medicinal plant: Due to majority of GLP users from USA, i decided not to include Ephedra, since it is illegal in USA and many other countries - crystal meth can be produced from this plant) [link to www.vice.com (secure)] - Black Walnut (Even though its active compound "juglone" does seem to be anti viral and anti-inflammatory, i could not find reference of it being useful as treatment for Lung and Respiratory Virus infection, and may even be a potential "respiration inhibitor" as side effect) [link to www.omafra.gov.on.ca] - Serrapeptase (not a herb per se, but a biological enzym drug/ Proteinase: [link to www.drugs.com (secure)] - Grapefruit seed extract (not a herb per se, but usually a highly processed supplement: [link to www.healthline.com (secure)] - Methylene blue photochemical treatment (modern medicinal treatment, which is blood and plasma transfusion. Furthermore, methylene is a compound prepared under chemical process, hence not a herbal treatment: [link to www.researchsquare.com (secure)] Last Edited by Nagabonar666 on 04/13/2020 03:08 AM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78777450 United Kingdom 04/12/2020 09:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Chin Med J 2014;127 (7) Prevention and treatment of viral respiratory infections by traditional Chinese herbs [link to www.elotus.org (secure)] Anti SARS virus Baicalin derived from Scutellaria baicalensis inhibited the replication of SARS-CoV in Vero and FRhK4 cells at concentrations which may be achievable in vivo after intravenous administration.40 A large compound screening test showed ginsenoside-Rb1 extracted from Panax ginseng, aescin isolated from the horse chestnut tree, reserpine containing in the genus Rauwolfia and extracts of eucalyptus and Lonicera japonica inhibited SARSCoV replication at non-toxic concentrations.41 Glycyrrhizin isolated from the root of Glycyrrhiza glabra was active in inhibiting replication of the SARS-associated virus (FFM-1 and FFM-2).42 Comparing to other commercial drugs, glycyrrhizin was the most effective drug against SARS virus and had the lowest toxic effect to human. Anti RSV Respiratory Syncytial Virus (RSV) Infection An anti-RSV screening test with 21 herbs was employed, and extracts from 14 herbs showed moderate to strong anti-RSV activity.44 Among the effective herbs, six herbs exhibited anti-RSV activity with 50% inhibitory concentration values lower than 50 μg/ml and selective Chinese Medical Journal 2014;127 (7) 1347 index values higher than 10, including Blumea laciniata, Elephantopus scaber, Laggera pterodonta, Mussaenda pubescens, Schefflera octophylla and Scutellaria indica. Glycyrrhiza uralensis was another herbal candidate for cure of RSV infection.46,47 The compound GD4 isolated from root of Glycyrrhiza uralensis. fisch was effective to inhibit the number of RSV in vitro Anti influenza virus As a corynanthe-type monoterpenoid indole alkaloid, hirsutine isolated from Uncaria rhynchophylla ( cat's claw herb) MIQ. inhibited the replication of influenza virus A (H3N2) in vitro. Furthermore the 50% effective concentration of hirsutine was 11- to 20-fold lower than the clinically used RIBAVIRIN -------------------- Another widely available member of plant family Uncaria with same compound hirsutine and quinic acid: Caffeic acid and quinic acid are two major chlorogenic acids. These taste pretty foul: bitter, harsh, and often metallic. Quinic acid is related to quinine, which is what gives tonic water its distinct taste.2 Jun 2008 |
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(OP) User ID: 78783665 Indonesia 04/12/2020 09:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Chin Med J 2014;127 (7) Quoting: Jutlander Prevention and treatment of viral respiratory infections by traditional Chinese herbs [link to www.elotus.org (secure)] Anti SARS virus ...... Caffeic acid and quinic acid are two major chlorogenic acids. These taste pretty foul: bitter, harsh, and often metallic. Quinic acid is related to quinine, which is what gives tonic water its distinct taste.2 Jun 2008 Excellent! Cat's claw is within the Rubiaceae family of plants which also contains such herbs as coffee, Cinchona, and Psychotria. [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] It doesn't have quinine (of which Chloroquine is based/ synthesized), but has several medicinal useful alkaloids similar to Cinchona Bark, in addition to other... [link to www.sigmaaldrich.com (secure)] putting this on high priority Last Edited by Nagabonar666 on 04/12/2020 09:38 PM |
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(OP) User ID: 78783665 Indonesia 04/13/2020 12:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Nagabonar666 Plasma Virus Inactivation (blood and plasma transfusion).. super high modern medicine.. i prefer to stay with the basics [link to www.researchsquare.com (secure)] I make a gallon of distilled water at home daily and add about 5cc of Methylene blue. The healing effects can be felt without the use of transfusions or intravenously. It's inexpensive and effective in overcoming COVID-19. . oh wow.. i read that Methylene could be quite toxic. How do did you find out about the correct dosage? Methylene Blue Dosage A suitable dilution for oral dosing would be 10 to 20 mL of the 0.5 % solution diluted to 100 to 200 mL with water. [link to www.drugs.com (secure)] . thanks for sharing Last Edited by Nagabonar666 on 04/13/2020 01:03 AM |
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(OP) User ID: 78783665 Indonesia 04/13/2020 01:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Added Rose Hips : The accessory fruit of the rose plant, fresh rose hips contain a lot of vitamin C (Among the highest Vitamin C content in nature), hence they share many uses with vitamin C including preventing and treating colds, flu, and vitamin C deficiencies. A lot of Vitamin C is lost during drying, processing and storage (fresh fruits anyone?). Also available in Tea form, it is rich in anti-oxidants and may reduce inflammation, as well as boost the immune system. Furthermore rich in phenolic compounds, carotenoids, tocopherol, bioflavonoids, tannins, volatile oils and pectins: [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)] . Rose Hips and its active compounds, shown to inhibit pro-inflammatroy cytokine production: [link to www.dovepress.com (secure)] Last Edited by Nagabonar666 on 04/13/2020 01:28 AM |
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User ID: 77547432 Canada 04/13/2020 02:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Glad you brought up lomatium! I used it with decent results when the black mold issue I had was in my lungs...good stuff, good thread, bump! If you are not busy weaving your own magick, you are trapped in anothers spell. “It’s time you realized that you have something in you more powerful and miraculous than the things that affect you and make you dance like a puppet.” – Marcus Aurelius |
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(OP) User ID: 78783665 Indonesia 04/13/2020 02:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Glad you brought up lomatium! I used it with decent results when the black mold issue I had was in my lungs...good stuff, good thread, bump! Quoting: Lance Roseman From BC Amazing, your the first one who mentions having experience with Lomatium! How did you get it , and how did you take it in (maybe dosage available?) thanks so much for sharing |
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User ID: 77547432 Canada 04/13/2020 03:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Glad you brought up lomatium! I used it with decent results when the black mold issue I had was in my lungs...good stuff, good thread, bump! Quoting: Lance Roseman From BC Amazing, your the first one who mentions having experience with Lomatium! How did you get it , and how did you take it in (maybe dosage available?) thanks so much for sharing I got it from here I think? My go to place really [link to www.pacificbotanicals.com (secure)] ANd just snacked on it all the time so dosage is vague! It was a reccomendation by a good friend of mine who is a consultant there and at Richters herbs in Ontario. He was correct. I should write him again about this really. This should be added as welll [link to fungi.com (secure)] I've seen people with other lung issues benefit greatly from it. If you are not busy weaving your own magick, you are trapped in anothers spell. “It’s time you realized that you have something in you more powerful and miraculous than the things that affect you and make you dance like a puppet.” – Marcus Aurelius |
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(OP) User ID: 78783665 Indonesia 04/13/2020 03:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Glad you brought up lomatium! I used it with decent results when the black mold issue I had was in my lungs...good stuff, good thread, bump! Quoting: Lance Roseman From BC Amazing, your the first one who mentions having experience with Lomatium! How did you get it , and how did you take it in (maybe dosage available?) thanks so much for sharing I got it from here I think? My go to place really [link to www.pacificbotanicals.com (secure)] ANd just snacked on it all the time so dosage is vague! It was a reccomendation by a good friend of mine who is a consultant there and at Richters herbs in Ontario. He was correct. I should write him again about this really. This should be added as welll [link to fungi.com (secure)] I've seen people with other lung issues benefit greatly from it. A Herbal Autodidact - we respect that. Lomatium is truly fascinating, due to the Native American tribe which survived unscathed, meanwhile millions left and right, rich and poor, were dying because of the Spanish Influenza 1918 [link to todayspractitioner.com (secure)] [link to chasblogspot.blogspot.com] Thanks also for the second link - Cordyceps, Reishi and Chaga, well noted to examine. Safe Journeys! Last Edited by Nagabonar666 on 04/13/2020 04:04 AM |
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