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A little Herb Summary vs COVID-19

 
Nagabonar666  (OP)

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I have used this recipe for making THIEVES OIL for years.

After researching, it is the formula I believe to be most accurate.

4.0 x Clove oil

3.5 x Lemon oil

2.0 x Cinnamon oil

1.5 x Eucalyptus oil

1.0 x Rosemary oil

(x= parts, drops, units, oz, etc.)

bfsalve
 Quoting: Trained Noticer


Wow , thanks a lot! May i use it in the Recipe section on third post?
 Quoting: Nagabonar666


Took the liberty and added it to recipe section on third post of this thread. Any special technique to mix the oils? Thanks again :-)
 Quoting: Nagabonar666


Get Very high quality oils. I like the NOW brand,
but there are several good suppliers.

DO NOT use the cheap hobby oils for scents and candles.

No special method. I simply put the appropriate amounts
into 4 oz. dropper bottles. Easy Peasy.
All family members have a bottle as well as friends.

It is expensive as hell to purchase as "Thieves",
particularly certain brands.

I also generate my own colloidal silver. I use it for
everything, horses, chickens, garden, etc.
All family and friends have a concentrated bottle from
which to make dilute solutions as needed.
(Cures pink eye in 20 minutes, for example)

bf51
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Cheers! I have added your additional info about thieves oil to Recipe section.

The more i read about Coloidal Silver, the more i am tempted to try out!
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Great information, thank You!
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Great information, thank You!
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Your very much welcome.. all the best!
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Added: Clove Oil, Lemon Oil, Cinnamon Oil, Rosemary Oil & Tea Tree Oil.

Clove Oil derived from the Clove Tree (Syzygium aromaticum), native to South East Asia. It is anti-microbial, anti-fungal, antiviral, also has anti-inflammatory agents. It is known to ease respiratory issues and has a cooling effect. (Side note: in Indonesia Clove cigarettes, a tobacco-clove mix are highly popular). Also inhibits the production of pro-inflammatory Cytokines. [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]

Lemon Oil helps to breathe easier and soothes sore throats. Rich in Vitamin C, it has anti-fungal, anti-bacterial and anti-inflammatory properties. Also shown to be somewhat effective in treating Herpes Virus. Research shows its potential to decrease pro-inflammatory Cytokines: [link to www.sciencedirect.com (secure)]

Cinnamon Oil (derived from Cinnamon, a spice obtained from the inner bark of several tree species from the genus Cinnamomum. It has been known from remote antiquity/ 2000 BC – Ancient Egypt). Cinnamon Oil compounds include Cinnamaldehyde, which has been found to reduce inflammation and act as an antimicrobial. A natural remedy for health concerns ranging from cough and colds to constipation. Research shows that Cinnamaldehyde inhibits pro-inflammatory cytokines secretion: [link to www.researchgate.net (secure)]

Rosemary Oil (Salvia Rosmarinus native to Asia and Mediterranean, evidence of human usage of Rosemary found as early as 5000 BC). Among its medicinal benefits, as aromatherapy shown to support respiratory function, may improve brain function and improves blood circulation. Anti-inflammatory, its active compound Oleanolic acid has displayed antiviral activity against various viruses. Has some minor effects on lowering production of pro-inflammatory Cytokines: [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]

Tea Tree Oil extracted from the leaves of the tea tree (Melaleuca alternifolia - native to certain parts in Australia). Historically used among numerous Aboriginal communities, the use of the name probably originated from Captain James Cook. Tea Tree Oil can inhibit the growth of bad bacteria that cause sinus infections and respiratory issues. Crushed tea tree leaves have been inhaled by Australian Aborigines to treat coughs and colds, and inhaling tea tree oil may also help to ease the effects of a cough The oil possesses antibacterial, anti-inflammatory, antiviral, and antifungal properties. Terpinen-4-ol, a main constituent of tea tree oil, suppresses inflammatory reactions and has suppressive activity of pro-inflammatory Cytokines: [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]

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Care to elaborate more? I read kratom may cause respiratory depression... (Besides classified as narcotic in many countries)
 Quoting: Nagabonar666


Thread: Kratom Has Corona Resistant Compunds

(link in first post)

Using 'kratom' in the forum search, I see there's been several similar threads since this was posted.

Maybe my daily kratom prevented my illness from being worse, pretty sure I had the civ back in Feb.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78703815


Interesting.. would be great if you could share more about your personal experience with Kratom
 Quoting: Nagabonar666


Not sure what you're looking for, I could almost write a book.

I don't believe it's dangerous nor addicting when used at a medicinal level. I've never been "high" on it or tried to be.

Taking it daily for the past 2.5 years. Works very well for all sorts of nerve pain. Reduces or eliminates IBS-D.

I feel like I may have the covid back in Feb., but I didn't have fever or heavy chest congestion. Strange bug that began with a minor sore throat, moved to one ear, then into sinuses with a three day headache that I thought would split my head open. One eye watered so much my face was chapped (never before). After about 5 days I felt like I was over it, then it started to come back along with some upper chest congestion and hoarse voice.
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Thanks for the input! i have completed some research and decided:

Added Kratom to front page summary - Caution!

Kratom (Mitragyna speciose) is a tropical evergreen tree in the coffee family native to Southeast Asia (Thailand, Indonesia, Malaysia, Myanmar, and Papua New Guinea). In some countries, the possession of Kratom is illegal due to its opioid effects (including in my country Indonesia where you could get 20 years of jail for possession of it). People use kratom for withdrawal from heroin, morphine, and other opioid drugs, as it effects the same brain receptors as morphine does. In overdoses or chronic use it may be highly dangerous and lethal. However, Kratom has been used in traditional medicine and some people (including 2 x participants on this thread) vouch for its effectiveness and medicinal properties. Scientifically, Kratom does have a total of 30 Alkaloids, among them:
A. Mitragynine: the most abundant alkaloid in Kratom, it has pain-mitigation properties and may increase endurance but may also cause liver problems
B. Hynchophylline and Epicatechin: Anti-inflammatory Agents (Prevents Viruses from attaching to cell walls with their hooks)
C. Isorhynchopylline and Isoptreropodine = Strong immune boosters
Also, Kratom may promote the circulation of blood and may improve the oxygen levels (aphrodisiac), hence warding off Fatigue which may be caused by COVID-19
[link to thriveglobal.com (secure)]
[link to pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]
[link to jaoa.org (secure)]
In summary, I find it strange that so many websites try to discredit Kratom as an evil tree with no medicinal uses (including Wikipedia). Even though, science research shows that Kratom does have those effective Alkaloids which may have the power to inhibit COVID-19 (big pharma play again?). your own informed research is suggested and extra care, both legally and health-wise, if you decide to use Kratom.

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Save has antiviral, anti-hiv activity. Keeps the virus from entering the target cell.

Might be good to use as tea AND use it in a dry herb vaporizer. Would go straight to blood system and lung cells. Not the oil though, just the plant matter.

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]

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[link to retrovirology.biomedcentral.com (secure)]
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Sage a lovely ancient medicinal herb. Just gotta love that its Latin name Salvia officinalis has a meaning "to heal"

Added Sage to front page

Sage (Salvia officinalis, which comes from the Latin word “to heal”) is a perennial woody-stemmed herb native to the Mediterranean (but naturalized all around the world), with a long history of medicinal use. Either sage tea or sage essential oil, derived from the sage leaves, has many benefits. Among them for the respiratory function, such as sore throat, cold, cough and lung problems. Able to resolve excessive mucus and phlegm. Also helps to manage chronic diseases such as asthma, bronchitis, and herpes. Antiviral, anti-inflammatory, anti-bacterial, anti-fungal properties. Extract of sage may have anti- inflammatory activity through the inhibition of pro-inflammatory cytokines [link to www.yakhak.org]
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No here is the recipe that will prevent or cure coronavirus.




Cinchona bark powder (quinine) 500 mg. twice daily

Angelica Archangelica root powder 500 mg. twice daily.

Rose Hips powder 500 mgs 4 times daily.

EGCG with Quercetin by Life extension foundation. 3 times daily.

Tinospora cordifolia 1 cap twice daily.

zinc 25 mgs daily

You take that, you will not catch coronavirus.


Everything on this list is clinically proven to kill viruses and stop cytokine storms



I would add ephedra but its now Illegal in the USA.

20 years experience with prescribing herbal supplements.
 Quoting: Jake


Hi Jake, will be diving into the ingredients provided by you soon.

However, medicinal benefits of Ephedra really intrigues me. It is highly illegal though, not only in USA but possession could also lead to many years in Jail here in Indonesia. The reason is that Ephedra is the plant, used to derive Amphetamines of (further step would be Crystal Meth for example)

do you happen to know, if its allowed to make some research and elaborate further about the medicinal and science aspect of Ephedra as potential remedy vs COVID--19, on this forum ? does it go against T&C and could cause me to be banned?

Cheers

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Vitamin B1 Is Vital to Protect Against Infectious Disease

STORY AT-A-GLANCE


Thiamine (vitamin B1) deficiency syndrome (beriberi) has many similarities to sepsis — a primary cause of COVID-19 mortality — and thiamine deficiency is relatively common in critically ill patients in general

Thiamine deficiency is prevalent in pulmonary tuberculosis, and the more severe the case, the more severe the thiamine deficiency. Thiamine has been shown to limit Mycobacterium tuberculosis by regulating your innate immunity

Thiamine deficiency is also associated with the development of high fever, and some researchers have suggested that serious infections may in fact be a presenting manifestation of thiamine deficiency

Clinical case reports have shown thiamine injections reversed a number of acute illnesses in which high fever was a factor, including one case where the patient presented with high fever, headache and asphyxia, and another where the patient had high fever and severe pneumonia

Thiamine is required for metabolism of some of the metabolites of vitamin C. Vitamin C also works synergistically with corticosteroids, which helps explain why the Marik Sepsis Protocol is so effective. Magnesium may also be important, as it is required for the activation of thiamine 50%<

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bump to follow and added to favourites, op...

Thank you for the information in this thread all...

I haven't read the whole thread yet but will do :-)

Take care and stay safe all...

hf
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CICHONA BARK, native to Andes Mountains - South America. The bark contains alkaloids, including quinine and quinidine, in use as an anti-malaria drug until now. Hydroxychloroquine (declared to be a potential cure vs COVID-19 by US President Donald Trump) is a synthetically manufactured drug, used to treat malaria and developed based on the chemical structure of quinine.
Eventhough, consumption may cause serious side effects. An overdose or allergic reaction may even be deadly. Also, quinine may especially be toxic and dangerous during preganancy.
Besides quinine (anti-inflammatory, anti-viral and antimalarial) here are other compounds found in the Cinchona Bark (among many other alkaloids and compounds), which may lead to different results if taken as the Bark's powder form, compared to synthetic pure drug of Hydroxychloroquine vs COVID-19:
Caffeic:
antioxidant, anti-inflammatory, anticancer, and antiviral
[link to www.healthline.com (secure)]
Chlorogenic:
Reduces blood pressure
[link to www.webmd.com (secure)]
Protocatechuic p-coumaric acid
A phenolic acid (anticancer) also found in honey
[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]
Epicatechin
potent antioxidants, with antiviral, antimalarial and anticarcinogenetic properties, among others. Anti-hyperlipidaemic, anti-inflammatory, antioxidative, anticarcinogenic, and cytoprotective.
[link to www.europeanpharmaceuticalreview.com (secure)]
Triterpene
anti-inflammatory, anti-diabetic, anti-cancer, helps with regulation of immune function
[link to www.sciencedirect.com (secure)]
Quinovic Acid
Shown to be effective against general inflammatory conditions, and cancer
[link to journals.plos.org (secure)]
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[link to www.researchgate.net (secure)] )
Anthocyanins
A type of flavonoid with anti-oxidant effects. May offer anti-inflammatory, anti-viral, and anti-cancer benefits. To treat high blood pressure, colds, and urinary tract infections.
[link to www.verywellhealth.com (secure)]
Cinchonine
An alkaloid, anti-inflammatory, anti-malarial, anti-cancer, may be especially effective to prevent obesity:
[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]
Liriodenine
An alkaloid mainly found in another chinese plant, but also on Cinchona bark: antimicrobial, anti fungal, antibiotic ( [link to pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]
Cinchophylline
Amoebicidal (used to eradicate the parasitic species of amebae in animals or humans) and Cytotoxic (toxic to living cells)
[link to books.google.co.id (secure)]
Proanthocyanidin
Proanthocyanidins may protect the heart and cardiovascular system. They may work as antioxidants. Reduces risk of cancer and other age related problems.
[link to www.urmc.rochester.edu (secure)]
Quinovin
A bitter which increases secretion of gastric juice, thus helps to fight bacterial and virus infection (fever & flu) and increases appetite
[link to www.drvikram.com]
Catechic Tannis
An anti-oxidant flavonoid. Catechins are natural antioxidants that help prevent cell damage and provide other benefits.
[link to books.google.co.id (secure)]

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Hey OP -

You asked about Osha -

Check around locally - I have had an abundance, and didn't realize it was super rare and can't be grown outside of it's natural environment.

A straight herbalist master couldn't even move it from one hill to another - something something microbes.

Keep with the Chincona Bark for this one i think.

There is something about trees and the natural protective layers formed through sap that I believe the non profit medical groups could look into further.
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Hey OP -

You asked about Osha -

Check around locally - I have had an abundance, and didn't realize it was super rare and can't be grown outside of it's natural environment.

A straight herbalist master couldn't even move it from one hill to another - something something microbes.

Keep with the Chincona Bark for this one i think.

There is something about trees and the natural protective layers formed through sap that I believe the non profit medical groups could look into further.
 Quoting: Bodhi Sita


Its super super amazing... during my research about Cinchona Bark i found several other trees (their Barks, you guessed it) with (claimed) universal health benefits bordering to unbelievable... but then again if dive into the individual compounds of the tree barks, Alkaloids and Phelonics + Flavanoids it does make sense!

No wonder, big corporations are hell bend on destroying the Amazon

Nevertheless, thanks for the update on Osha.. who knows someone reads this thread and may find Osha useful and easily accessible.

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Another bark that treats just about everything is Pau D'Arco. If you search it, some pages just list the bare minimum and a couple go into great detail. I'm doing maintenance doses and if I get sick.. I'll drink more. I make a tea out of it but there are capsules as well.
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Hey OP -

You asked about Osha -

Check around locally - I have had an abundance, and didn't realize it was super rare and can't be grown outside of it's natural environment.

A straight herbalist master couldn't even move it from one hill to another - something something microbes.

Keep with the Chincona Bark for this one i think.

There is something about trees and the natural protective layers formed through sap that I believe the non profit medical groups could look into further.
 Quoting: Bodhi Sita


Its super super amazing... during my research about Cinchona Bark i found several other trees (their Barks, you guessed it) with (claimed) universal health benefits bordering to unbelievable... but then again if dive into the individual compounds of the tree barks, Alkaloids and Phelonics + Flavanoids it does make sense!

No wonder, big corporations are hell bend on destroying the Amazon

Nevertheless, thanks for the update on Osha.. who knows someone reads this thread and may find Osha useful and easily accessible.
 Quoting: Nagabonar666


Definitely keep looking at tree bark and sap.

It is a powerful defense to keep trees alive when they are injured.

Propolis, an antibiotic I use that bees collect from the sap of trees, is another hint that it is strong medicine.

The trees make something that is antiviral, antimicrobial and antibacterial. This combines to make a natural antibiotic too.

Forgot to mention antiparasitic and antifungal - which is probably relevant since these types of medicines are having some positive effects.

Another natural medicine found widely across the world is horehound. This has been brought to my attention by some medicine people:

"White horehound is used for digestion problems including loss of appetite, indigestion, bloating, gas, diarrhea, constipation, and liver and gallbladder complaints. It is also used for lung and breathing problems including cough, whooping cough, asthma, tuberculosis, bronchitis, and swollen breathing passages."

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Grows wild in our country -

Always verify the dosage and plant id with an herbalist.

hf
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Oh - at this point, I think it might be nice to research what we can recommend to people if they have to take the Chloroquine.

The body will need a cure for the cure.
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Hey OP -

You asked about Osha -

Check around locally - I have had an abundance, and didn't realize it was super rare and can't be grown outside of it's natural environment.

A straight herbalist master couldn't even move it from one hill to another - something something microbes.

Keep with the Chincona Bark for this one i think.

There is something about trees and the natural protective layers formed through sap that I believe the non profit medical groups could look into further.
 Quoting: Bodhi Sita


Its super super amazing... during my research about Cinchona Bark i found several other trees (their Barks, you guessed it) with (claimed) universal health benefits bordering to unbelievable... but then again if dive into the individual compounds of the tree barks, Alkaloids and Phelonics + Flavanoids it does make sense!

No wonder, big corporations are hell bend on destroying the Amazon

Nevertheless, thanks for the update on Osha.. who knows someone reads this thread and may find Osha useful and easily accessible.
 Quoting: Nagabonar666


Definitely keep looking at tree bark and sap.

It is a powerful defense to keep trees alive when they are injured.

Propolis, an antibiotic I use that bees collect from the sap of trees, is another hint that it is strong medicine.

The trees make something that is antiviral, antimicrobial and antibacterial. This combines to make a natural antibiotic too.

Forgot to mention antiparasitic and antifungal - which is probably relevant since these types of medicines are having some positive effects.

Another natural medicine found widely across the world is horehound. This has been brought to my attention by some medicine people:

"White horehound is used for digestion problems including loss of appetite, indigestion, bloating, gas, diarrhea, constipation, and liver and gallbladder complaints. It is also used for lung and breathing problems including cough, whooping cough, asthma, tuberculosis, bronchitis, and swollen breathing passages."

[link to www.rxlist.com (secure)]

Grows wild in our country -

Always verify the dosage and plant id with an herbalist.

hf
 Quoting: Bodhi Sita


Thanks for this one, adding white horehound to the queue in high potential list.

In regards to Saps and Barks so far we only know about cinchona bark as high potential candidate to treat COVID-19, supported by US president himself (synthetics drug of it at least).. i like his honesty and straight forwardness i must say.

I also suspect the Chinese have found a natural wonder cure...
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Hi! Could you please tell me your thoughts on irish sea moss.
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Oh - at this point, I think it might be nice to research what we can recommend to people if they have to take the Chloroquine.

The body will need a cure for the cure.
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Great idea, but tough nut to crack.. i spent the whole last night till early morning, just researching the cinchona bark.. i consider it herbal learning though ;-)

Any suggestions would be awesome point to start.. i think we need to look at side effects and historical "cure for the cure" first - luckily quinine has been around a long time so hopefully plenty of references..

Its also mind boggling that for a natural medicine this long around, no one bothered to make a summary of its alkaloids and health benefits.. we haven't even touched the various amount of contents of each compound yet!

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Hi! Could you please tell me your thoughts on irish sea moss.
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Hi there... First time i hear about irish sea moss. Have you experience with it, or maybe some point of reference ?
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Hi! Could you please tell me your thoughts on irish sea moss.
Thank you in advance.
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Hi there... First time i hear about irish sea moss. Have you experience with it, or maybe some point of reference ?
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I have no experience with it. I was sitting outside and It just sorta came into mind. I did a quick study and it seems maybe it could have some great benefits for this nasty virus. Although I am not efficient in understanding natural herbs. Was hoping someone with more knowledge might help me to understand its potential.
Thanks!
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Hi! Could you please tell me your thoughts on irish sea moss.
Thank you in advance.
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Hi there... First time i hear about irish sea moss. Have you experience with it, or maybe some point of reference ?
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I have no experience with it. I was sitting outside and It just sorta came into mind. I did a quick study and it seems maybe it could have some great benefits for this nasty virus. Although I am not efficient in understanding natural herbs. Was hoping someone with more knowledge might help me to understand its potential.
Thanks!
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Examining its historical use as medicinal a bit, looks promising to queue up for research as supportive treatment! Thanks for the tip.

Irish Moss has a long history of medicinal use for respiratory and digestive ailments. It has a softening effect on the tissues and helps many respiratory problems such as bronchitis and pneumonia, soothes the mucous membranes of the digestive tract and also has a mild laxative effect. Try the Irish Cough Remedy to relievev chronic coughs and sore throats....


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Hi! Could you please tell me your thoughts on irish sea moss.
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Hi there... First time i hear about irish sea moss. Have you experience with it, or maybe some point of reference ?
 Quoting: Nagabonar666


I have no experience with it. I was sitting outside and It just sorta came into mind. I did a quick study and it seems maybe it could have some great benefits for this nasty virus. Although I am not efficient in understanding natural herbs. Was hoping someone with more knowledge might help me to understand its potential.
Thanks!
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Examining its historical use as medicinal a bit, looks promising to queue up for research as supportive treatment! Thanks for the tip.

Irish Moss has a long history of medicinal use for respiratory and digestive ailments. It has a softening effect on the tissues and helps many respiratory problems such as bronchitis and pneumonia, soothes the mucous membranes of the digestive tract and also has a mild laxative effect. Try the Irish Cough Remedy to relievev chronic coughs and sore throats....


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Thank you. Hopefully you all with better understanding will find it useful. Thanks for your efforts. Stay well.
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I posted l-histidine as one of the items in my arsenal. Here is some interesting info that shows it's similarity to the hydrochloroquine/zinc cocktail.


Infections

Scientists have recently discovered that histidine in combination with zinc can help against colds. The body can absorb zinc more easily when it is taken with histidine. Scientists conducted a study to test whether zinc and L-histidine can reduce the duration of a viral or bacterial infection. The study included over 40 participants. The researchers found that the consumption of both these substances together shortens the length of a common cold by an average of 3.6 days. 

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Thank you. Hopefully you all with better understanding will find it useful. Thanks for your efforts. Stay well.
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Thanks a lot for your participation! Safe journeys...
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I posted l-histidine as one of the items in my arsenal. Here is some interesting info that shows it's similarity to the hydrochloroquine/zinc cocktail.


Infections

Scientists have recently discovered that histidine in combination with zinc can help against colds. The body can absorb zinc more easily when it is taken with histidine. Scientists conducted a study to test whether zinc and L-histidine can reduce the duration of a viral or bacterial infection. The study included over 40 participants. The researchers found that the consumption of both these substances together shortens the length of a common cold by an average of 3.6 days. 

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Hi Sorry, missed this info! Do you know from which plant or alternatively how histidine is produced and whether it is a synthetic drug, derived from a herbal or plant compound?

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I posted l-histidine as one of the items in my arsenal. Here is some interesting info that shows it's similarity to the hydrochloroquine/zinc cocktail.


Infections

Scientists have recently discovered that histidine in combination with zinc can help against colds. The body can absorb zinc more easily when it is taken with histidine. Scientists conducted a study to test whether zinc and L-histidine can reduce the duration of a viral or bacterial infection. The study included over 40 participants. The researchers found that the consumption of both these substances together shortens the length of a common cold by an average of 3.6 days. 

[link to aminoacidstudies.org (secure)]
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Hi Sorry, missed this info! Do you know from which plant or alternatively how histidine is produced and whether it is a synthetic drug, derived from a herbal or plant compound?
 Quoting: Nagabonar666


Can't say for sure but Swansons Ajipure line says vegetarian sourced and Horbaachs says non-gmo both of which I've used.
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Hey OP -

You asked about Osha -

Check around locally - I have had an abundance, and didn't realize it was super rare and can't be grown outside of it's natural environment.

A straight herbalist master couldn't even move it from one hill to another - something something microbes.

Keep with the Chincona Bark for this one i think.

There is something about trees and the natural protective layers formed through sap that I believe the non profit medical groups could look into further.
 Quoting: Bodhi Sita


Mullein is a good herb for respiratory distress. It's growing wild on my property from spring to fall every year. I make a tea of the leaves and flowers, when ever my bronchitis starts-up and it helps to relive the symptoms.

Mullein Benefits

Chest infections: Speeding up recovery from bronchitis and chest infections.

Respiratory health: Soothing respiratory ailments, such as asthma, sore throat, and dry cough. Read more:

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Vitamin B1 Is Vital to Protect Against Infectious Disease

STORY AT-A-GLANCE


Thiamine (vitamin B1) deficiency syndrome (beriberi) has many similarities to sepsis — a primary cause of COVID-19 mortality — and thiamine deficiency is relatively common in critically ill patients in general

Thiamine deficiency is prevalent in pulmonary tuberculosis, and the more severe the case, the more severe the thiamine deficiency. Thiamine has been shown to limit Mycobacterium tuberculosis by regulating your innate immunity

Thiamine deficiency is also associated with the development of high fever, and some researchers have suggested that serious infections may in fact be a presenting manifestation of thiamine deficiency

Clinical case reports have shown thiamine injections reversed a number of acute illnesses in which high fever was a factor, including one case where the patient presented with high fever, headache and asphyxia, and another where the patient had high fever and severe pneumonia

Thiamine is required for metabolism of some of the metabolites of vitamin C. Vitamin C also works synergistically with corticosteroids, which helps explain why the Marik Sepsis Protocol is so effective. Magnesium may also be important, as it is required for the activation of thiamine 50%<

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 Quoting: Terrebonne


Sounds promising, but they still need to do a lot of tests..

Our results suggest that the early use of intravenous vitamin C, together with corticosteroids and thiamine, are effective in preventing progressive organ dysfunction, including acute kidney injury, and in reducing the mortality of patients with severe sepsis and septic shock. Additional studies are required to confirm these preliminary findings

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Would you suggest more thiamine intake as precaution?
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Hey OP -

You asked about Osha -

Check around locally - I have had an abundance, and didn't realize it was super rare and can't be grown outside of it's natural environment.

A straight herbalist master couldn't even move it from one hill to another - something something microbes.

Keep with the Chincona Bark for this one i think.

There is something about trees and the natural protective layers formed through sap that I believe the non profit medical groups could look into further.
 Quoting: Bodhi Sita


Mullein is a good herb for respiratory distress. It's growing wild on my property from spring to fall every year. I make a tea of the leaves and flowers, when ever my bronchitis starts-up and it helps to relive the symptoms.

Mullein Benefits

Chest infections: Speeding up recovery from bronchitis and chest infections.

Respiratory health: Soothing respiratory ailments, such as asthma, sore throat, and dry cough. Read more:

[link to www.organicfacts.net (secure)]


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 Quoting: Terrebonne


Yes -

Several Herbalists have concurred that this will be good for the lung issues.

TAKE AS DIRECTED

Top 3 for this includes Mullein - in my info from around the world.

Consider it herbalist peer reviewed.

Marshmallow
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Mullein

That said - though I haven't found a DR (yet) to work with - or lab, or clinic - Treatment in the early stages at first onset of symptoms is so important.

Viral load is lowest.

Think about it - this thing has to hide for 14 days to infiltrate the blood stream.

Treatment at onset of symptoms is vital.

I am seeing whatever part of this that is headed for the neural pathway, fight the hardest and stay the longest.

Symptom: Headache -

Go after it and continue whatever you are using for 14 days.

We have all talked for days about how to clear out our bodies toxin level.

Kidneys and liver are very important to pay attention to.



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This is a great thread OP. I call you a wise man
and a hard working man who cares about his fellow
man.
It is obvious that you put a lot of work into
this information. I am sure that most of us had no
idea how many natural remedies that are available.
. I just want to say THANK YOU !





GLP