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when you vote your politicians, presidents, remember and check which pharmas are behind them

almost always they're owned by someone

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Yep
I always look what Corporations or Banks are backing a Candidate and know right off the bat what is going on.

The Candidates will whisper sweet nothings in your ear, and once is office, they work for their big money donors.

Thanks for the vote chumps.
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You're absolutely right and virtually all of these candidates are owned. And not by us!
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Most all pharmaceutical research and development is done in the US, 30% of it is paid for by US taxes and the rest is from other US sources. It is mostly manufactured in slave worker China- yet Americans pay more for pharmaceuticals than anywhere in the world.
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This is just one facet of many that could/will destroy the world. Don't worry about what you can't control. Worry about what you can.

We were supposed to be done as a country a couple years ago, but that was thwarted. There isn't much more money left to be made, most are stretched to the max with debt and can't get anymore. Eventually the elites will pull the plug. Will it be a slow destruction via withholding critical supplies to the USA or a man made disease? Sadly they have many options. I am not going to worry about it because there is nothing we can do.
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Most all pharmaceutical research and development is done in the US, 30% of it is paid for by US taxes and other US sources. It is mostly manufactured in slave worker China- yet Americans pay more for pharmaceuticals than anywhere in the world.
 Quoting: Far Away


Yep
Where is the money going you may ask?

Shareholders and Upper Management Pay.
No other industry is as profitable where CEO's pull in millions in the Pharma and Healthcare Sector.

Remember Martin Shkreli, the Hedge Fund Manager?
He knew squat about the pharma industry and pills, but he knew a money maker when he saw one.

He took over the rights of a generic drug, patented it, raised the price 750% and commented to his pals that they were going to be very rich from this.
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Even though I agree with the main thrust of the point of this thread, the fact remains that many people's lives are enhanced by taking a much needed pill daily. I am one of them. I am 84 now and would have died 16yrs ago of a heart attack without modern medical intervention. My son would be in a wheelchair now without Enbrel for his rheumatoid arthritis. My life has been improved by these advances in medicine.

My beef is that we are being exploited by the high cost of many of these medicines that many people have no choice whether or not they take them. It would be out of the reach of someone who does not have medical insurance, since it costs $1000.00 a month for this medicine. It annoys me that natural alternatives are not looked into because there is no profit in it.

I remember when all these pharmaceuticals were manufactured in the U.S. I remember the outcry when the pharmaceutical companies first went overseas because the wages of workers was more favorable.The outcry died down though when the government failed to act on this unamerican turn of events of almost all manufacturing being taken out of our country.

Finally it took a businessman to see the effect this was having on our country and act decisively on it.
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I haven't taken prescriptions in 10 years. I think I'll be fine. Stop trying to make me afraid of this shit.
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We don't even import drugs FROM FUCKING CANADA YOU UTTER FUCKING UNEDUCATED TARD... Believe everything you see on YouTube huh?... Pathetic......
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DAYUM!!!!! That might be why my antibiotic hasn't been working as well as it should! We need to take this stuff back and make it in the USA. These other countries have NO STANDARDS and Red China is our enemy. We should not be reliant on them so that a few very wealthy people can become even wealthier and completely run our world.

I do think giant multinational corporations need to be brought to heel and forced to bring back business to THIS country. Sherman anti-trust laws need to be used. If they don't want to be AMERICAN businesses, maybe we shouldn't let them SELL in America!
 Quoting: Blue State Rebel


China usually does a good job on the first shipment to their business customers in America, and without fail, after that, it is all downhill. They substitute cheap components and materials out of the specifications that were demanded in order to squeeze the business owners for more money.

No doubt, many generics probably are placebos filled with dried dog food and god knows what else.
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Wow, that's the exact tactic used by street dealers. Give a new customer the best shit first, even throw in a free taste. Once hooked, they'll crawl naked over broken glass to get more and that's when they get hit with the garbage.
Which they are thrilled to get.
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Even though I agree with the main thrust of the point of this thread, the fact remains that many people's lives are enhanced by taking a much needed pill daily. I am one of them. I am 84 now and would have died 16yrs ago of a heart attack without modern medical intervention. My son would be in a wheelchair now without Enbrel for his rheumatoid arthritis. My life has been improved by these advances in medicine.

My beef is that we are being exploited by the high cost of many of these medicines that many people have no choice whether or not they take them. It would be out of the reach of someone who does not have medical insurance, since it costs $1000.00 a month for this medicine. It annoys me that natural alternatives are not looked into because there is no profit in it.

I remember when all these pharmaceuticals were manufactured in the U.S. I remember the outcry when the pharmaceutical companies first went overseas because the wages of workers was more favorable.The outcry died down though when the government failed to act on this unamerican turn of events of almost all manufacturing being taken out of our country.

Finally it took a businessman to see the effect this was having on our country and act decisively on it.
 Quoting: Ballsy


Remember the World Trade Organization Protests in Seattle and many other countries back in the late 80s, early 90's?

You had millions of people protesting trade with China because they knew the damage it would do it do to this country and the movement was hijacked by Big Business Interests, The Chamber of Commerce and Banking to paint these protesters as Business Hating Commies.

I mean think about how stupid that sounds and people bought it.

Greedy Business moving to Communist China to take advantage of slave labor under Communism and the protesters are the Communists?

The same thing happened with the bank bail out protests.
People protested the corruption in the finance industry and once again it was hijacked by the banking industry by painting the protesters as a bunch of hippies looking for a free hand out.
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Karma. This is what Iraq had to go through due to sanctions - not a single medicine was allowed to enter that country for 12 years because of America.
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Even though I agree with the main thrust of the point of this thread, the fact remains that many people's lives are enhanced by taking a much needed pill daily. I am one of them. I am 84 now and would have died 16yrs ago of a heart attack without modern medical intervention. My son would be in a wheelchair now without Enbrel for his rheumatoid arthritis. My life has been improved by these advances in medicine. My beef is that we are being exploited by the high cost of many of these medicines that many people have no choice whether or not they take them. It would be out of the reach of someone who does not have medical insurance, since it costs $1000.00 a month for this medicine. It annoys me that natural alternatives are not looked into because there is no profit in it. I remember when all these pharmaceuticals were manufactured in the U.S. I remember the outcry when the pharmaceutical companies first went overseas because the wages of workers was more favorable.The outcry died down though when the government failed to act on this unamerican turn of events of almost all manufacturing being taken out of our country. Finally it took a businessman to see the effect this was having on our country and act decisively on it.
 Quoting: Ballsy
Remember the World Trade Organization Protests in Seattle and many other countries back in the late 80s, early 90's? You had millions of people protesting trade with China because they knew the damage it would do it do to this country and the movement was hijacked by Big Business Interests, The Chamber of Commerce and Banking to paint these protesters as Business Hating Commies. I mean think about how stupid that sounds and people bought it. Greedy Business moving to Communist China to take advantage of slave labor under Communism and the protesters are the Communists? The same thing happened with the bank bail out protests. People protested the corruption in the finance industry and once again it was hijacked by the banking industry by painting the protesters as a bunch of hippies looking for a free hand out.
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that's the whole tragedy and paradox in this story, and the MO is always the same ffs wake up people
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and 50% of the pharmaceuticals are phony, bogus, useless, counterfeits.
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This..i have fibromyalgia,,so does my adult son..taught myself herbalism and we take zero pharma garbage..most is toxic bullshit and I'm much better than when I took handfuls of pills years ago. Educate yourselves people. You are responsible for your own health, NOT YOUR DOCTOR
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Most all pharmaceutical research and development is done in the US, 30% of it is paid for by US taxes and other US sources. It is mostly manufactured in slave worker China- yet Americans pay more for pharmaceuticals than anywhere in the world.
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Yep
Where is the money going you may ask?

Shareholders and Upper Management Pay.
No other industry is as profitable where CEO's pull in millions in the Pharma and Healthcare Sector.

Remember Martin Shkreli, the Hedge Fund Manager?
He knew squat about the pharma industry and pills, but he knew a money maker when he saw one.

He took over the rights of a generic drug, patented it, raised the price 750% and commented to his pals that they were going to be very rich from this.
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Awful beyond words.
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who would have thunk being balls deep with Chicoms would be a problem down the line!?
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I agree.
China Manufacturing of Most US Medicine and Vitamins Poses Security Threat, Researchers Say

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We make most of our own regardless of cost and bother.
"Science without religion is lame; religion without science is blind"

Covid, fake riots, communist organizers - keep your powder dry America. This was not the disease or the riots, those both are still on down the line.
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Supplements such as vitamins are manufactured in China as well.

My biggest concern is not actual poison (although I would not put it past the commies to do that), but viral contamination during manufacturing and packing.

I will experiment with baking unopened bottles of meds in my supply at 150F in the oven. Afterwards, I will check to see if the gelatin capsule material has melted or whatever.

A med left in your car on a sunny day in Houston can get to 150F or so easily. I think that unopened bottles could survive that.

In the meantime, I plan to use up old meds that predate the outbreak.
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If a person could get along without the drugs they are taking, it could be a problem stopping them. Many drugs are addictive even when they say they aren't. Or at least you would need to wean off them to be safe. I used to take a blood pressure med that if you didn't wean off, it could cause chest pain or even a heart attack!

If people have no idea that their drug won't be there to refill, I think a lot of people could be in trouble.
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I agree.
China Manufacturing of Most US Medicine and Vitamins Poses Security Threat, Researchers Say

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We make most of our own regardless of cost and bother.
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US Is Dependent On China For Almost 80% Of Its Medicine

Fox Business reports that according to FDA estimates at least 80 percent of active ingredients found in all of America’s medicine come from abroad, primarily from China. And it’s not just the ingredients, China wants to become the world’s dominant generic drug maker. So far Chinese companies are making generic for everything from high blood pressure to chemotherapy drugs. 90 percent of America’s prescriptions are for generic drugs.

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Karma. This is what Iraq had to go through due to sanctions - not a single medicine was allowed to enter that country for 12 years because of America.
 Quoting: The Lathe Of Heaven

Oh bull they just had to pay somebody else instead of get free off US. What vivid and lurid imaginations the childish conjure.
You are like all the ridiculous "you are BAD because you're better!" inverted phonies that don't even believe their selves.
One thing i have enjoyed about this is socialists revelation that they and their infant life of porn makes them the biggest consumer of "soylent peasant" there is and their govts are worse than ours
And our peoples revelation that behind every mudhutter is our govt helping them more than anybody.
Oh and that all the "karma" saying gheys and 50 year old INFANTS are passe' as delusional jokes and total putzes of their own ridiculous feminized "karma"
epiclol
Poor chomo and "such a proper lady" man!
"Science without religion is lame; religion without science is blind"

Covid, fake riots, communist organizers - keep your powder dry America. This was not the disease or the riots, those both are still on down the line.
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Karma. This is what Iraq had to go through due to sanctions - not a single medicine was allowed to enter that country for 12 years because of America.
 Quoting: The Lathe Of Heaven

Oh bull they just had to pay somebody else instead of get free off US. What vivid and lurid imaginations the childish conjure.
You are like all the ridiculous "you are BAD because you're better!" inverted phonies that don't even believe their selves.
One thing i have enjoyed about this is socialists revelation that they and their infant life of porn makes them the biggest consumer of "soylent peasant" there is and their govts are worse than ours
And our peoples revelation that behind every mudhutter is our govt helping them more than anybody.
Oh and that all the "karma" saying gheys and 50 year old INFANTS are passe' as delusional jokes and total putzes of their own ridiculous feminized "karma"
epiclol
Poor chomo and "such a proper lady" man!
"Science without religion is lame; religion without science is blind"

Covid, fake riots, communist organizers - keep your powder dry America. This was not the disease or the riots, those both are still on down the line.
Garden garden grow spices and medical plants too.

I am a VeterAid volunteer for Arrogant Mushroom Healers of Alamogordo.
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If a person could get along without the drugs they are taking, it could be a problem stopping them. Many drugs are addictive even when they say they aren't. Or at least you would need to wean off them to be safe. I used to take a blood pressure med that if you didn't wean off, it could cause chest pain or even a heart attack!

If people have no idea that their drug won't be there to refill, I think a lot of people could be in trouble.
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We're both in the same boat on requiring our meds.

I'm trying to figure out my new glucose monitor. Looks easy to use, but I am one of those folks that reads every page of every manual so it's going to take me a while.
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Karma. This is what Iraq had to go through due to sanctions - not a single medicine was allowed to enter that country for 12 years because of America.
 Quoting: The Lathe Of Heaven

Oh bull they just had to pay somebody else instead of get free off US. What vivid and lurid imaginations the childish conjure.
You are like all the ridiculous "you are BAD because you're better!" inverted phonies that don't even believe their selves.
One thing i have enjoyed about this is socialists revelation that they and their infant life of porn makes them the biggest consumer of "soylent peasant" there is and their govts are worse than ours
And our peoples revelation that behind every mudhutter is our govt helping them more than anybody.
Oh and that all the "karma" saying gheys and 50 year old INFANTS are passe' as delusional jokes and total putzes of their own ridiculous feminized "karma"
epiclol
Poor chomo and "such a proper lady" man!
 Quoting: Timur2020


No, US Sanctions say you cannot buy from medicine from anyone.
If anyone sells to Iraq, the US threatens them as well.

It is like with the sanctions on Iran.
We tell Iran, you cannot buy from anyone and any small player that does, we threaten them as well.

China and Russia are able to get away with selling to Iran, because they are a major player and we cannot tell them what to do.
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U.S. policymakers worry about China 'weaponizing' drug exports

“Medicines can be used as a weapon of war against the United States,” Rosemary Gibson, a senior adviser on health care issues at the bioethics-focused Hastings Center and co-author of “China Rx: Exposing the Risks of America's Dependence on China for Medicine,” told lawmakers last month. “Supplies can be withheld. Medicines can be made with lethal contaminants or sold without any real medicine in them, rendering them ineffective.

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Politico is very fake news.
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U.S. policymakers worry about China 'weaponizing' drug exports

“Medicines can be used as a weapon of war against the United States,” Rosemary Gibson, a senior adviser on health care issues at the bioethics-focused Hastings Center and co-author of “China Rx: Exposing the Risks of America's Dependence on China for Medicine,” told lawmakers last month. “Supplies can be withheld. Medicines can be made with lethal contaminants or sold without any real medicine in them, rendering them ineffective.

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Politico is very fake news.
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there is nothing fake about this situation

If you do not agree please offer some evidence....hf
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If you need pharmaceuticals to live you already have 1 foot in the grave.
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U.S. policymakers worry about China 'weaponizing' drug exports

“Medicines can be used as a weapon of war against the United States,” Rosemary Gibson, a senior adviser on health care issues at the bioethics-focused Hastings Center and co-author of “China Rx: Exposing the Risks of America's Dependence on China for Medicine,” told lawmakers last month. “Supplies can be withheld. Medicines can be made with lethal contaminants or sold without any real medicine in them, rendering them ineffective.

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Well, it sure isn't going to help matters with rumor being spread in China that the US released the Wuflu on them.
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fuck the Intellectual Property.

they're killing us!!!

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