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Asuralikeproduction
User ID: 60106282 United States 06/15/2022 11:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I rarely post but hear all this garbage about "Illuminati" there are many factions of this loosely termed group & Im sure if you research you will find many famous people have been or are Rosicrucian..they teach opening the heart chakra & becoming "christed" they teach healing with chi/prana/intention through the heart....The society of Jesus(JESUITS) wanted a meeting with them.....refused with the response being...WE ARE THE REAL SOCIETY OF JESUS Quoting: ILLUMINATE 78361630 MOST literature can be found freely...Rudolf Steiners material being right up there...he was light years in front with his writings based mostly on Rosicrucianism The rose croix is not fake christianity like catholism or protestantism...its the real mccoy...buried amongst nonsense Blavatsky on them jesuits: [link to www.theosociety.org (secure)] Scroll down to page 394^ Last Edited by Asuralikeproduction on 06/15/2022 11:52 AM |
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User ID: 8080014 United States 06/15/2022 11:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When I was in my early 20s I was a member of the Rosicrucian order AMORC...I later discovered they are fake Rosicrucian Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77816790 No, AMORC is not "fake" because the teachings are timeless and have their roots in antiquity. True, the Order has changed over the centuries but they are merely societal alterations that do not disrupt the flow of that still largely forbidden knowledge. You sound like one who never fully embraced those teachings and that's unfortunate. I dunno man, ’AMORC’ seem pretty ‘McRosicrucian’ to me. Honestly, if the Rosicrucians were even legit to begin with, it would mean that they were legit Alchemists and individuals who were of the Buddha Gotra, or at least on their way in a concrete way to being such…. And a few posts back, some months ago, I’d already given my two cents regarding specifics of Rosicrucianism, FWIW. You're overlooking the fact that many Rosicrucian teachings originated in the Egyptian mystery-schools that predate Buddhism by several millennia. And in fact, many Rosicrucians were once burned at the stake for the practice of alchemy. Again: you're on the outside looking in, a perspective that puts you at a strong disadvantage. It should also be noted that comprehensive Rosicrucian teachings are available only to those that seek it through traditional channels that do not include random Youtube videos or internet illuminati exposes'. In fact, at one time, the classic Rosicrucian order only accepted new initiates every 100 years to maintain an exclusive connective thread of wisdom. And all true Rosicrucians swear a sacred oath not to divulge those teachings but rather to assist others via leading by example. The lessons we share may be subtle, but they have already stood the test of time itself. And while we don't feel a need to impose ourselves upon a world consumed by it's own corruption, we do stand by to keep it from totally destroying itself. Last Edited by GSB/LTD on 06/15/2022 11:57 AM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79667372 United States 06/15/2022 11:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When I was in my early 20s I was a member of the Rosicrucian order AMORC...I later discovered they are fake Rosicrucian Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77816790 No, AMORC is not "fake" because the teachings are timeless and have their roots in antiquity. True, the Order has changed over the centuries but they are merely societal alterations that do not disrupt the flow of that still largely forbidden knowledge. You sound like one who never fully embraced those teachings and that's unfortunate. I dunno man, ’AMORC’ seem pretty ‘McRosicrucian’ to me. Honestly, if the Rosicrucians were even legit to begin with, it would mean that they were legit Alchemists and individuals who were of the Buddha Gotra, or at least on their way in a concrete way to being such…. And a few posts back, some months ago, I’d already given my two cents regarding specifics of Rosicrucianism, FWIW. You're overlooking the fact many Rosicrucian teachings originated in the Egyptian mystery-schools that predate Buddhism by several millennia. And in fact, many Rosicrucians were once burned at the stake for the practice of alchemy. Again: you're on the outside looking in, a perspective that puts you at a strong disadvantage. It should also be noted that comprehensive Rosicrucian teachings are available only to those that seek it through traditional channels that do not include random Youtube videos or internet illuminati exposes'. True Rosicrucians swear a sacred oath not to divulge those teachings but rather to assist others via leading by example. The lessons we share may be subtle, but they have already stood the test of time itself. And while we don't feel a need to impose ourselves upon a world consumed by it's own corruption, we do stand by to keep it from totally destroying itself. Elitism appeals to the ego. Truth is the opposite of ego. |
Asuralikeproduction
User ID: 60106282 United States 06/15/2022 11:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You're overlooking the fact many Rosicrucian teachings originated in the Egyptian mystery-schools that predate Buddhism by several millennia. Quoting: GSB/LTD I’m not though. There are Buddhas who appeared long before the Buddha Sakyamuni. Like I’d said too: Blavatsky, Steiner, Hartmann, Manly P. Hall, Heindel, etc. all seem way more legit than “Crowley” or ‘AMORC’. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79667372 United States 06/15/2022 11:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You're overlooking the fact many Rosicrucian teachings originated in the Egyptian mystery-schools that predate Buddhism by several millennia. Quoting: GSB/LTD I’m not though. There are Buddhas who appeared long before the Buddha Sakyamuni. Like I’d said too: Blavatsky, Steiner, Hartmann, Manly P. Hall, Heindel, etc. all seem way more legit than “Crowley” or ‘AMORC’. Crowley left a wake of death and destruction. He knew nothing. Harvey Spencer Lewis, was a remarkable man, the founder of AMORC, the modern incarnation of the order. His writings, monographs, are deep, profound. Too bad modern AMORC decided to take them away. |
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User ID: 8080014 United States 06/15/2022 12:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: GSB/LTD No, AMORC is not "fake" because the teachings are timeless and have their roots in antiquity. True, the Order has changed over the centuries but they are merely societal alterations that do not disrupt the flow of that still largely forbidden knowledge. You sound like one who never fully embraced those teachings and that's unfortunate. I dunno man, ’AMORC’ seem pretty ‘McRosicrucian’ to me. Honestly, if the Rosicrucians were even legit to begin with, it would mean that they were legit Alchemists and individuals who were of the Buddha Gotra, or at least on their way in a concrete way to being such…. And a few posts back, some months ago, I’d already given my two cents regarding specifics of Rosicrucianism, FWIW. You're overlooking the fact many Rosicrucian teachings originated in the Egyptian mystery-schools that predate Buddhism by several millennia. And in fact, many Rosicrucians were once burned at the stake for the practice of alchemy. Again: you're on the outside looking in, a perspective that puts you at a strong disadvantage. It should also be noted that comprehensive Rosicrucian teachings are available only to those that seek it through traditional channels that do not include random Youtube videos or internet illuminati exposes'. True Rosicrucians swear a sacred oath not to divulge those teachings but rather to assist others via leading by example. The lessons we share may be subtle, but they have already stood the test of time itself. And while we don't feel a need to impose ourselves upon a world consumed by it's own corruption, we do stand by to keep it from totally destroying itself. Elitism appeals to the ego. Truth is the opposite of ego. Not quite, because it is the ego that spawns the search for truth. Elitism is the result of an ego run amok. |
Asuralikeproduction
User ID: 57378968 United States 06/15/2022 12:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You're overlooking the fact many Rosicrucian teachings originated in the Egyptian mystery-schools that predate Buddhism by several millennia. Quoting: GSB/LTD I’m not though. There are Buddhas who appeared long before the Buddha Sakyamuni. Like I’d said too: Blavatsky, Steiner, Hartmann, Manly P. Hall, Heindel, etc. all seem way more legit than “Crowley” or ‘AMORC’. Crowley left a wake of death and destruction. He knew nothing. Harvey Spencer Lewis, was a remarkable man, the founder of AMORC, the modern incarnation of the order. His writings, monographs, are deep, profound. Too bad modern AMORC decided to take them away. Hm, well “Crowley” was an degenerate within ‘the sphere of Lilith’. Perhaps the ‘AMORC’ (or the original one of Spencer Lewis at any rate) can at least say for themselves that they were within ‘the sphere of Nahemah or Na’amah’…. Last Edited by Asuralikeproduction on 06/15/2022 12:03 PM |
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User ID: 8080014 United States 06/15/2022 12:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You're overlooking the fact many Rosicrucian teachings originated in the Egyptian mystery-schools that predate Buddhism by several millennia. Quoting: GSB/LTD I’m not though. There are Buddhas who appeared long before the Buddha Sakyamuni. Like I’d said too: Blavatsky, Steiner, Hartmann, Manly P. Hall, Heindel, etc. all seem way more legit than “Crowley” or ‘AMORC’. You are mixing many differing philosophies into a blender and yielding a drink lacking any nourishment; but then, your palate is not my own. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79667372 United States 06/15/2022 12:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Asuralikeproduction I dunno man, ’AMORC’ seem pretty ‘McRosicrucian’ to me. Honestly, if the Rosicrucians were even legit to begin with, it would mean that they were legit Alchemists and individuals who were of the Buddha Gotra, or at least on their way in a concrete way to being such…. And a few posts back, some months ago, I’d already given my two cents regarding specifics of Rosicrucianism, FWIW. You're overlooking the fact many Rosicrucian teachings originated in the Egyptian mystery-schools that predate Buddhism by several millennia. And in fact, many Rosicrucians were once burned at the stake for the practice of alchemy. Again: you're on the outside looking in, a perspective that puts you at a strong disadvantage. It should also be noted that comprehensive Rosicrucian teachings are available only to those that seek it through traditional channels that do not include random Youtube videos or internet illuminati exposes'. True Rosicrucians swear a sacred oath not to divulge those teachings but rather to assist others via leading by example. The lessons we share may be subtle, but they have already stood the test of time itself. And while we don't feel a need to impose ourselves upon a world consumed by it's own corruption, we do stand by to keep it from totally destroying itself. Elitism appeals to the ego. Truth is the opposite of ego. Not quite, because it is the ego that spawns the search for truth. Elitism is the result of an ego run amok. Truth is that the ego doesn't exist. An idea about oneself is not oneself. Western, through the ego, Eastern, dissolve the ego. Destination is the same. |
Asuralikeproduction
User ID: 57378968 United States 06/15/2022 12:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You're overlooking the fact many Rosicrucian teachings originated in the Egyptian mystery-schools that predate Buddhism by several millennia. Quoting: GSB/LTD I’m not though. There are Buddhas who appeared long before the Buddha Sakyamuni. Like I’d said too: Blavatsky, Steiner, Hartmann, Manly P. Hall, Heindel, etc. all seem way more legit than “Crowley” or ‘AMORC’. You are mixing many differing philosophies into a blender and yielding a drink lacking any nourishment; but then, your palate is not my own. I’m not actually. All of the above-mentioned were within the same stream of Masonry/Rosicrucianism, etc. |
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User ID: 8080014 United States 06/15/2022 12:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You're overlooking the fact many Rosicrucian teachings originated in the Egyptian mystery-schools that predate Buddhism by several millennia. Quoting: GSB/LTD I’m not though. There are Buddhas who appeared long before the Buddha Sakyamuni. Like I’d said too: Blavatsky, Steiner, Hartmann, Manly P. Hall, Heindel, etc. all seem way more legit than “Crowley” or ‘AMORC’. Crowley left a wake of death and destruction. He knew nothing. Harvey Spencer Lewis, was a remarkable man, the founder of AMORC, the modern incarnation of the order. His writings, monographs, are deep, profound. Too bad modern AMORC decided to take them away. Hm, well “Crowley” was an degenerate within ‘the sphere of Lilith’. Perhaps the ‘AMORC’ (or the original one of Spencer Lewis at any rate) can at least say for themselves that they were with ‘the sphere of Nahemah or Na’amah’…. Like many others dancing around the perimeter of wisdom, you speak a great deal and yet say very little. The bottom line is simply this: until you've actually studied Rosicrucian monographs, you don't know what you're talking about and are instead regurgitating esoteric garbage that passes itself off as profound existentialism. But, again, that's just my opinion and if that's the pathway you've chosen, then... so mote it be! FYI: H. Spencer Lewis' teachings are still very prevalent in modern AMORC teachings. Last Edited by GSB/LTD on 06/15/2022 12:12 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79667372 United States 06/15/2022 12:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Asuralikeproduction I’m not though. There are Buddhas who appeared long before the Buddha Sakyamuni. Like I’d said too: Blavatsky, Steiner, Hartmann, Manly P. Hall, Heindel, etc. all seem way more legit than “Crowley” or ‘AMORC’. Crowley left a wake of death and destruction. He knew nothing. Harvey Spencer Lewis, was a remarkable man, the founder of AMORC, the modern incarnation of the order. His writings, monographs, are deep, profound. Too bad modern AMORC decided to take them away. Hm, well “Crowley” was an degenerate within ‘the sphere of Lilith’. Perhaps the ‘AMORC’ (or the original one of Spencer Lewis at any rate) can at least say for themselves that they were with ‘the sphere of Nahemah or Na’amah’…. Like many others dancing around the perimeter of wisdom, you speak a great deal and yet say very little. FYI: H. Spencer Lewis' teachings are still very prevalent in modern AMORC teachings. You're an insulting little prick. Your ego is quite huge, needs constant validation. Pathetic. |
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User ID: 8080014 United States 06/15/2022 12:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79667372 Crowley left a wake of death and destruction. He knew nothing. Harvey Spencer Lewis, was a remarkable man, the founder of AMORC, the modern incarnation of the order. His writings, monographs, are deep, profound. Too bad modern AMORC decided to take them away. Hm, well “Crowley” was an degenerate within ‘the sphere of Lilith’. Perhaps the ‘AMORC’ (or the original one of Spencer Lewis at any rate) can at least say for themselves that they were with ‘the sphere of Nahemah or Na’amah’…. Like many others dancing around the perimeter of wisdom, you speak a great deal and yet say very little. FYI: H. Spencer Lewis' teachings are still very prevalent in modern AMORC teachings. You're an insulting little prick. Your ego is quite huge, needs constant validation. Pathetic. My words are not ego-based at all. At nearly 72, I have the benefit of age that is not obstructed by youthful arrogance such as your own. And that's the greatest chasm between we two. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79667372 United States 06/15/2022 12:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Asuralikeproduction Hm, well “Crowley” was an degenerate within ‘the sphere of Lilith’. Perhaps the ‘AMORC’ (or the original one of Spencer Lewis at any rate) can at least say for themselves that they were with ‘the sphere of Nahemah or Na’amah’…. Like many others dancing around the perimeter of wisdom, you speak a great deal and yet say very little. FYI: H. Spencer Lewis' teachings are still very prevalent in modern AMORC teachings. You're an insulting little prick. Your ego is quite huge, needs constant validation. Pathetic. My words are not ego-based at all. At nearly 72, I have the benefit of age that is not obstructed by youthful arrogance such as your own. And that's the greatest chasm between we two. Honesty, especially with one's self, is the highest virtue. |
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User ID: 8080014 United States 06/15/2022 12:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have compared monographs written originally by Lewis Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79667372 And the ones revised by AMORC in the 90s. I estimate a good 80% of the material was removed. The earliest H. Spencer Lewis monographs have never been published outside the order itself and they are only available for study in the U.S. by serious scholars in the archives at Rosicrucian Park in San Jose, CA. To do that you'd need to be an active Frater. If you have not done that, you are merely a deceptive poseur. |
Mr. Tiger Blood
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79667372 United States 06/15/2022 12:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have compared monographs written originally by Lewis Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79667372 And the ones revised by AMORC in the 90s. I estimate a good 80% of the material was removed. The earliest H. Spencer Lewis monographs have never been published outside the order itself and they are only available for study in the U.S. by serious scholars in the archives at Rosicrucian Park in San Jose, CA. To do that you'd need to be an active Frater. If you have not done that, you are merely a deceptive poseur. Gary says otherwise. I joined his order too. He has all the originals, naturally since he was the successor to Lewis' son, Ralph M. Also I had a good friend that was a member he had all his monographs, 20 years worth, plus his mothers. Then there were mine, the modern ones. I know what I'm talking about because I was a member went to initiations etc. |
hankie
Everything User ID: 80628258 United States 06/15/2022 12:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, Bacon thought he was talking to angels and later found out it was a demon, so there is that part. Most of them did call up demons, and this is in historical archives. One was working with the King of France who is a wife was in labor, and he wanted to save his wife, didn't work, and his wife died and moral of this story demons do not like mankind. They did believe they were talking to angels before they found out it was demons, so why do you believe it good now? It has a lot to do with the working of Alchemy, this is where it started. I don't know how a believer in The LORD GOD thought this was a good idea, if an angel was to show up you would have to test them to see what they really are. Sorry I got a headache These are the times that tries men's and women's souls! May we come though it victorious! |
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User ID: 8080014 United States 06/15/2022 12:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All this esoteric bullshit appeals to the ego. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79667372 Secret knowledge, lording it over others. Pathetic. Then of course denial and lies to oneself are needed to insulate. Knowledge that is shared cannot by definition be secret, and to give something that could be misused is pointless. You do not hand a child a loaded gun just as you don't teach an adult in areas they can only marginally comprehend without first learning the natural order that surrounds us. |
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