Alternative to N95 masks - Paint Respirators

Just a heads up ordering on Amazon.....many items are available for purchase BUT ships in 1-2 months.....look at the shipping time before clicking.....

From China...

Good call. You may be able to still find items at industrial supply houses though that are in stock. You might have to call around a bit.

Some of the bigger chains include:

McMaster Carr
[link to www.mcmaster.com (secure)]

Grainger
[link to www.grainger.com (secure)]

MSC
[link to www.mscdirect.com (secure)]


Just look for maintenance or MRO vendors online.

Sheep on masks...this is unbelievable

I hate to burst your bubble but you would need a full a suit not just a mask. Did you know your ears have a small canal to your mouth or that your eyes have small passage ways to through your nose and throat. Granted yes the mask will help but you will no be 100% safe. Best bet is to buy a torch and leave a wake a fire

That's your choice. There are others who may want to choose differently. I am simply offering an alternative others may have overlooked, nothing more nothing less.

FYI, full suits and hoods are also available for painting as well, but then you still have to decontaminated to get out.

This is required reading (at jobs, literally required by law)for anyone who is going to wear a respirator:
[link to www.osha.gov (secure)]

By Standard Number 1910.134 App D - (Mandatory) Information for Employees Using Respirators When not Required Under Standard.
Part Number:
1910
Part Number Title:
Occupational Safety and Health Standards
Subpart:
1910 Subpart I
Subpart Title:
Personal Protective Equipment
Standard Number:
1910.134 App D
Title:
(Mandatory) Information for Employees Using Respirators When not Required Under Standard.
GPO Source:
e-CFR

Appendix D to Sec. 1910.134 (Mandatory) Information for Employees Using Respirators When Not Required Under the Standard

Respirators are an effective method of protection against designated hazards when properly selected and worn. Respirator use is encouraged, even when exposures are below the exposure limit, to provide an additional level of comfort and protection for workers. However, if a respirator is used improperly or not kept clean, the respirator itself can become a hazard to the worker. Sometimes, workers may wear respirators to avoid exposures to hazards, even if the amount of hazardous substance does not exceed the limits set by OSHA standards. If your employer provides respirators for your voluntary use, or if you provide your own respirator, you need to take certain precautions to be sure that the respirator itself does not present a hazard.

You should do the following:

1. Read and heed all instructions provided by the manufacturer on use, maintenance, cleaning and care, and warnings regarding the respirators limitations.

2. Choose respirators certified for use to protect against the contaminant of concern. NIOSH, the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, certifies respirators. A label or statement of certification should appear on the respirator or respirator packaging. It will tell you what the respirator is designed for and how much it will protect you.

3. Do not wear your respirator into atmospheres containing contaminants for which your respirator is not designed to protect against. For example, a respirator designed to filter dust particles will not protect you against gases, vapors, or very small solid particles of fumes or smoke.

4. Keep track of your respirator so that you do not mistakenly use someone else's respirator.
[63 FR 1152, Jan. 8, 1998; 63 FR 20098, April 23, 1998]

Amazing, isn't it? All these companies are in China. Donald Trump became our president 20-30 years too late.

I remember working on a flight from Newark to San Francisco in the late 80's or early 90's. Got into a conversation with a guy. He mentioned he was going to China on business. I asked him what company. He said "Nike."

I was naïve...in disbelief. He laughed and said, "Oh, all our products are made in China."

I had no idea!

Thanks for Posting. Respirators are a lot more complicated than a simple dust mask, but they may be an option for some

you will have your own idea as soon as the chinese products stop to arrive. Basically most industries depend on china exports...even those who claim made in USA.

Very true. I have been telling everyone to buy anything you might want over the next 6 months now while things are available. I am buying a lawnmower later today myself.

You're welcome to stay in denial as long as you want. No one is going to hold your hand.

Meanwhile, if ONE Biological Weapon (WMD) has been released you can be sure that more have been or will be soon. This is not just a one time event, it's ongoing.

We've moved to a new phase. Biologicals are haram for a reason, not just being a contagion. Asymmetrical warfare isn't pretty. Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.

If you didn't get gas masks, N95 masks, years ago then you are behind. Where you should be now is prepared with 28 days of food for all residents, caught up on briefing family on emergency procedures and have a Neighborhood Defense Agreement.

Good Luck.

Stupid and useless.

Do you really believe a paint mask is going to keep a tiny virus from penetrating? They're not built for that.

You might as well wrap your face in toilet paper, same effectiveness.

You buy cartridges filters for these based on what you are trying to filter out, which include P100 filters.

Masks in general are designed to keep the germs in. So people with colds should wear surgical masks so they do not infect others.

So before being so critical (a sign of fear) try to understand the situation presented before you.

I've ordered 3 times on Ebay and got them within 2 days

also walked in to my local lumber yard and the shelves were packed

Last Edited by Slowly awakening on 01/31/2020 10:34 AM

Ok, i guess you got me.

If the mask fits, if you have no facial hair, if you can breathe with it on, if you have an expensive P100 filter in your paint mask, then it can be effective against a virus.

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]


To me, all those asian people walking around with flimsy masks just look stupid. I'd never wear one.

Or save some money and make one yourself.

I'll bet you can still pick them up at autoparts stores too.

PAINT MASKS and SURGICAL MASKS can't fit the face of a small child or teenager.

They are also NOT an alternative to a hazmat suit.

YOU NEED N95 MASKS.

Not surgical masks

YOU NEED N95 MASKS.

Not surgical masks

YOU NEED N95 MASKS.

Not surgical masks

YOU NEED N95 MASKS.

Not surgical masks

YOU NEED N95 MASKS.

Not surgical masks

YOU NEED N95 MASKS.

Not surgical masks

Home improvement stores still have N95 masks.

yep.. that is why I keep saying.. get googles, ear plugs and wear adult depends... nobody listens.

We are not just talking for viruses here. The respirator is a very handy item to have. For gas main breaks that will occur on masses, volcanic dust, etc get one that deals with organic vapors.

If the particles of the virus are around 0.1 micron? Not much will deal with that, and as others have noted you’ll need a pro suit, ear plugs, full face mask. But the respirator should hold off particles that are attached to snot sneeze and so on.

What will serve you better regarding a virus is to be away from large populations, then maybe once it gets to an obvious threat level, lock yourself away or head outback.

The whole process of decontamination for yourself alone, let alone family is almost ridiculous and it’s doubtful you could achieve that properly.

I owned an auto body shop for 20 years and the painters only used N95 masks.... they are industrial quality 'paint masks' and have strick Federal standards that most pacific rim manufacturers don't meet

OUCH!

[link to twitter.com (secure)]

Last Edited by Google_It on 01/31/2020 10:46 AM

Most of those masks aren't doing much.

Also, many people may have access to these from their place of work (construction, painting, welding, ect), all they need are different filters.

IMO, the best bets is to self isolate, but that is not possible for many

A paint mask is known as a half-mask and uses the same types of filters as a full respirator (gas mask).

You're absolutely right on all your points. This is better than nothing. Ideal is to be as far away from people as possible.

I owned an auto body shop for 20 years and the painters only used N95 masks.... they are industrial quality 'paint masks' and have strick Federal standards that most pacific rim manufacturers don't meet.
They aren't going to do squat at keeping a virus from entering your body through your eyes or ears or a couple of other open areas of mucus membrane

If you have the money this is the mask to get. [link to multimedia.3m.com (secure)]