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First Born Son
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| Pooka
User ID: 47917533 United States01/28/2020 11:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Full upgrade coming your way, lovey! Thank you very much for bringing this to us here... Quoting: cosmicgypsy   Bless you for that, Cosmic Gypsy! You are always kind and always right on time! Prayer is the most powerful force on earth. “I care not for a man's religion whose dog and cat are not the better for it.” Abraham Lincoln I sign all karma given. Would that those giving it to me followed suit. |
| Pooka
User ID: 47917533 United States01/28/2020 11:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, the reason everyone is asking if you take all three at once, is that it is dangerous to take all three of those medicines at once. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77311748 If you're going to hand out medical advice on an internet forum, make sure you back it up with a little actual information. And people, nothing wrong with looking at the advice and considering it, but don't ever just take advice like this without asking someone who understands how pharmaceuticals work together in the human body. Just ask the pharmacist, people! They deal with all the OTC items as well as prescriptions. Tell him the reason you are considering taking these things together, and ask her best advice under that circumstance. I've read a lot of quibbling about whether it is safe to take these together - but nobody has included whether it would be safer to get this deadly illness than to take those meds together. You ought to be able to take your choice there - decide it would be stupid to take medical advice from GLP and therefore it would be safer to have this dreadful flu, if that's all it is. Or take a chance on three OTC meds together, with a good chance of avoiding the wuhan flu. Simple question, right? Make a choice - flu is good, flu is not good. Prayer is the most powerful force on earth. “I care not for a man's religion whose dog and cat are not the better for it.” Abraham Lincoln I sign all karma given. Would that those giving it to me followed suit. |
| Pooka
User ID: 47917533 United States01/28/2020 11:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The only meds that can actually help you with the virus at this point are the same as anti HIV/Cancer ones.Meds that help your organism fight a failed immune system.Taking anything else is useless and will prolly do way more harm to you than the virus does. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78405411 Being a person with a compromised immune system and on more than one prescription for assistance with that, I find your advice and statement questionable at best, dangerous at worst. Prayer is the most powerful force on earth. “I care not for a man's religion whose dog and cat are not the better for it.” Abraham Lincoln I sign all karma given. Would that those giving it to me followed suit. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78381000  Australia01/28/2020 11:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You need to go to the store and buy one of these: Pepcid, Tagamet, Adix, or Zantac. Quoting: ~kpm~ This covers your H2 antagonist drug. Buy enough Prilosec, Prevacid. or Nexium to do the same as above. This covers the PPI Drugs. (Proton Pump Inhibitors) Lastly, I'd buy a big ass bottle of benadryl or generic benadry. aka... diphenhydramine. This covers your need for a H1 antagonist. Do you take all 3 at the same time? . yes but via different orifices . |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78400744 United States01/28/2020 11:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I posted this question a while back, but think it got lost in the fray. Curious on your thoughts about the source of the virus. Do you think it came from people eating bats or snakes as some claim? Do you think there's any possibility it's some kind of biological weapon that accidentally got out? Not trying to fear monger, just trying to get a grasp on how this might go. My thoughts are that if it is a biological weapon that got out somehow, it will be much more difficult to find a vaccination for. I would think one of the primary attributes of one would be maximum resistance to vaccination creation. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 75244248 United States01/28/2020 11:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Also saw that zantac increases chances of getting pneumonia. May want to pass on that one. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51605508 So does Nexium, but I will take it anyway. I have only read up to your post and am wondering if Jake has had his post commented on. Primatine Mist might be of help. Though, I think I would invest in a Colloidal Silver generator. And lots of Vitamin C. |
| Evangelina
User ID: 74476876 United States01/28/2020 11:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Full upgrade coming your way, lovey! Thank you very much for bringing this to us here... Quoting: cosmicgypsy Bless you for that, Cosmic Gypsy! You are always kind and always right on time!   You say there is no God.. but I KNOW there is, experience will "Trump" theory every time ~ Evangelina It is not the greatness of my faith that moves mountains but my faith in the Greatness of God TRUTH has Nothing to do with the Number of People Who are Convinced of it. Silence in the face of evil is itself evil; God will not hold us guiltless. Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act. -Dietrich Bonhoeffer NO AMOUNT OF EVIDENCE WILL EVER PERSUADE AN IDIOT ~~ MARK TWAIN |
| Southern Deplorable
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| Zalinsky
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 73044868 United States01/28/2020 11:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is also what our leaders here in the US will allow/are allowing its peoples to undergo: [link to youtu.be (secure)] |
| Hadriana
User ID: 77936235 United States01/28/2020 11:47 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This seems like how I manage my autoimmune urticaria. I also take 5000u of vit D per day. If it gets bad, which would be a kind of cytokine storm, then I take 15mg of Prednisone tapering each day until it's over to avoid rebound. Else I can have weird swelling so fast you would not believe it possible! Like my lip went from fine to huge once in about the time you could say 'BLOOP!" I find Xyxal and Allegra work best. The histamines to antihistamines are a 1:1 molarity to clear. That's what my doc says that the xyzal works better than Benadryl for me because I just have so much that has to be cleared out. Vitamin c really helps it clear too! So when I get bad I take a thousand units several times a day. I like emergen c. It works well for me. You can't just take it once, you have to keep it up in your system so it's constantly clearing it. I get lymph node activation on my head before my stuff goes crazy- like tiny BBs on my head and back of my neck. Wonder if you see the lymph nodes activate with this prior to problems? I will start to feel like I am on fire inside and out. I get GI symptoms, even my bladder will feel very sensitive. I don't know if any of this will help anybody or not, but I have fought with my immune system for over a decade on a daily basis to keep it from killing me from angioedema. I ain't dead yet. It might help people to to go on a antihistamine diet if they get sick? If this mode of treatment is actually viable.... Diet can really increase your histamine load. Strawberries, seafood, fresh meat, citrus.... I love them but have to avoid them when my immune system is really feisty. I generally freeze all of my meat before I cook it so there's less histamine in it. I just don't want to add to the load that I already have. Last Edited by Hadriana on 01/28/2020 11:49 PM |
| Timur2020
User ID: 74581068 United States01/28/2020 11:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If the above measures are not taking place, the pandemic will be catastrophic. Quoting: deplorable recollector Corona spreading in california, now up to 150,000 get out while you can... [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]  "For the developed countries, with better hygiene, long history of flu (herd immunization) and high quality medical system, the R0 was skewed (for the time being) to 2.2." Quoting: deplorable recollector  Yeah sure...I swear most here in the US have forgotten basic hygiene such as washing hands. It is that you just don't know. Think about when you learned at least 1.5 billion mudhutters do not use toilet paper (or a seperate sink. Feet, face and azz in the same sink, which is why you absolutely can not use public facilities anymore, especially not the sink!) The only meds that can actually help you with the virus at this point are the same as anti HIV/Cancer ones.Meds that help your organism fight a failed immune system.Taking anything else is useless and will prolly do way more harm to you than the virus does. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78405411 Being a person with a compromised immune system and on more than one prescription for assistance with that, I find your advice and statement questionable at best, dangerous at worst. Calling a drug anti viral is a little hazy and the reason is because most do it by providing the body something it needs to get them or coloring your whole fish tank a color they can't thrive or replicate in. Things that do directly affect virus can also be rough on the monkey. But pooka is right, there's a number of items and strategies better than what is available commercially. They are not "universal" and pne or the other will work better or not work at all and so the more options you have some of, is better than a barrel of one thing that may be ineffective that virus. I am reluctant to say much because i feel like i'm "participating" in their malevolent bullshit. Plants are daily staples and part of our lives, so its not. "22 plants and 15 formulas" to learn from scratch and if you used more spices in your food and "practiced" with things along your way, then its a lot easier and more likely on the shelf. You need to go to the store and buy one of these: Pepcid, Tagamet, Adix, or Zantac. Quoting: ~kpm~ This covers your H2 antagonist drug. Buy enough Prilosec, Prevacid. or Nexium to do the same as above. This covers the PPI Drugs. (Proton Pump Inhibitors) Lastly, I'd buy a big ass bottle of benadryl or generic benadry. aka... diphenhydramine. This covers your need for a H1 antagonist. Do you take all 3 at the same time? . yes but via different orifices .  "Science without religion is lame; religion without science is blind" Covid, fake riots, communist organizers - keep your powder dry America. This was not the disease or the riots, those both are still on down the line. Garden garden grow spices and medical plants too. I am a VeterAid volunteer for Arrogant Mushroom Healers of Alamogordo. |
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| Conchord
User ID: 75244248 United States01/28/2020 11:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just read this Quoting: Houdini6565 H2 blockers have been showed to carry a lower risk for gastrointestinal infection compared to PPIs. However, when both PPIs and H2 blockers are used together, the further reduction of gastric acid may allow for bacteria to multiply in the digestive system and the risk of infection may be increased. I don't know, but upon reading your post maybe the histamine reaction is an overabundance of acid in the stomach as the body tries to kill the invader? Something to look in to, before long. "God made the heavens and the earth. It is up to man to create his own personal hell." Rob Serling "Every man is two men; one is awake in the darkness, the other asleep in the light." Khalil Gibran |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78139404 United States01/28/2020 11:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You need to go to the store and buy one of these: Pepcid, Tagamet, Adix, or Zantac. Quoting: ~kpm~ This covers your H2 antagonist drug. Buy enough Prilosec, Prevacid. or Nexium to do the same as above. This covers the PPI Drugs. (Proton Pump Inhibitors) Lastly, I'd buy a big ass bottle of benadryl or generic benadry. aka... diphenhydramine. This covers your need for a H1 antagonist. Do you take all 3 at the same time? . Yes, take them as directed on the box. So start taking them as soon as you have symptoms of a flu, and continue all 3 regimes for how long? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 74112039 United States01/28/2020 11:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have been reading that nicotine also has an anti inflammatory effect that helps counter cytokine storm, any input on this OP? Apparently was used when swine flu was an issue Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77334557 Perhaps nicotine patches for us non smokers? I know a long time smoker who tried to quit and when he did his allergies went thru the roof! Went back to smoking, but less, and they subsided. |
| Hadriana
User ID: 77936235 United States01/28/2020 11:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One thing that really contributes to pneumonia it's from people that are sick laying down a lot, it makes it hard to clear fluid from the lungs. Since I feel like I pretty much eat antihistamines as a food group with my personal illness, I would be afraid that if you give sick people all these antihistamines that are not used to it oh, you are going to floor them and they won't be able to get out of bed for sleeping. The way my doctor describes it, is that all the antihistamines break down into metabolites that are like vistaril, a major tranquilizer. They might say they are non drowsy on the box and they will be, until they break down in your system. Then if you've taken enough of them, eventually they will zonk you out. And you have to be careful because like if you take too much Benadryl, your heart can just stop. End of story. Please don't think that because these drugs are over the counter, there's no risk. Last Edited by Hadriana on 01/28/2020 11:58 PM |
| Conchord
User ID: 75244248 United States01/29/2020 12:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, thank you so much for sharing this. I have a question. I'm sure it is okay, but the question keeps reoccurring in my mind. Because sometimes the generic and the name brand differ slightly and could make a difference. About the Pepcid, can the generic Famotidine be used instead? Thank you! "God made the heavens and the earth. It is up to man to create his own personal hell." Rob Serling "Every man is two men; one is awake in the darkness, the other asleep in the light." Khalil Gibran |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78275594 United States01/29/2020 12:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I know things... this is not Uncle intel,... Quoting: First Born Son I work in Biohazard remediation and mitigation for a living. I specialize in disaster sites where a large number of people have passed and ensuring the site is safe for people to enter. (Think Hurricane Katrina) Places where there are cadavers, many; rotten, festering, wanting to harm others. Places that have been underwater for so long that the very walls are lined from end to end with toxic mold. So I have a inside line to people and things I cannot elaborate on xxxx, The Corona-virus is tearing it's way across the world, and it is truly much worse than "they" are letting on. Is a big deal and I am afraid it may become a MUCH bigger deal. You need to go to the store and buy one of these: Pepcid, Tagamet, Adix, or Zantac. Buy enough for you, xxxxx, xxx, and whoever you want to save, enough last 2 weeks. This covers your H2 antagonist drug. Buy enough Prilosec, Prevacid. or Nexium to do the same as above. This covers the PPI Drugs. (Proton Pump Inhibitors) Lastly, I'd buy a big ass bottle of benadryl or generic benadry. aka... diphenhydramine. This covers your need for a H1 antagonist. You know what benadryl does. But the H2 drugs work in the same way except on different histamines. The PPI (Proton Pump Inhibitor) stops monocytes from going into overdrive. (Monocytes = White Blood Cells) The Coronavirus hits in a similar way to the flu. As it is a "Novel Virus" meaning the body has never seen anything like this... the body goes nuts, to the point that your own immune system kills you in something called a Cytokine Storm. This is very similar to a "Peanut Allergy", in that it's the bodies response that damages the person not the peanuts. When to start this "therapy"? No need to take anything in advance. But at the first sign of "flu like symptoms" I'd start therapy. Take it as directed on the box. You'll read and hear about it on the news. Obviously! What makes this virus "The Perfect Storm" is that it: 1. Has up to a 14 day incubation period. 2. The infected start shedding the virus in as little as 5 days after exposure. 3. Is as adaptable as the common cold. Meaning that about after each 3rd generation, the virus mutates into something that would require a completely different vaccination. We could literally ALL have this virus and not know it. I'm not freaking out, I'm not making a big deal out of nothing. You can google everything I've brought up. Now for the conspiracy theory portion of my presentation. Whether you know it or not. There have been SEVERAL recalls of various anti-acid drugs in the past few months. (Once again, you can research this) Maybe we knew this was coming and we have been stockpiling. Yes, hospitals will give you prevacid and pepcid if you have the Corona-virus. Just sayin'. Love, Me My most gracious thank-yous for sharing this... :Samri: Nick® No problem... I really do care about all of you! We're dysfunctional and all fucked up, but we're a family. That's for sure. I won't ever forget you. Thanks again. Nick® agreed it's been the toughest fight alone the last month. whenever I've had energy have come here looking for ideas to heal (did 2 rounds of antibiotics but it didn't bring my immune system back at all. that was a first. that's one reason the OP's info sounds so timely and valuable. yes during the last month being bedridden (just moved to a new location, new work, no car yet and had to quit my new work because of getting deathly sick from this scourge), what got me thru was God's grace, prayer and glp. I dunno what that says about me, lol. but anyway thanks, Mick for your sentiment - much shared - and thank you, OP for this thread and info. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78275594 United States01/29/2020 12:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Also saw that zantac increases chances of getting pneumonia. May want to pass on that one. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51605508 So does Nexium, but I will take it anyway. I have only read up to your post and am wondering if Jake has had his post commented on. Primatine Mist might be of help. Though, I think I would invest in a Colloidal Silver generator. And lots of Vitamin C. spraying c. silver and inhaling in my lungs has been one item to help me cough less and heal. helped me turn the corner, I'm sure. do you have any recommendations for c silver generator to buy? gonna invest in that as soon as I save up. thank you |
| Hadriana
User ID: 77936235 United States01/29/2020 12:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am not op, but I use USA made generics all the time. Well if you didn't want to take the otc's, it still seems safe to follow a low histamine diet if you got sick. Here is what I avoid if my histamine levels are raging: I only eat meat that's been frozen/thawed before cooking. (Yes, fresh is best, but it also has a lot more histamine.) No Alcohol fish/Shellfish peanuts or a lot of nuts Chocolate Most citrus fruits – kiwi, lemon, lime, pineapple, plums Strawberries Tomatoes No salsas No nitrates There's diet that's more strict you could look up. Just avoiding the above is the most help for me. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76892169 United States01/29/2020 12:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So to be clear, you are saying if my ten year old comes down with this shit, give him each pill as directed and it will keep his body from going into shock and possible coma? I am freaked out for my little boy. I dont give a shit what happens to me, but I cant watch him die or go comatose. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 14992014 United States01/29/2020 12:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The government would seed the pathogen in a morning fog on one of the days leading up to the Super Bowl (or on Super Bowl day itself), but the attack and its patsies would not be “discovered” until the game is over and everyone has gone home to cities and towns all over the nation. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63927796 As for the strength of the pathogen, it would be roughly equivalent to a bad flu, so some people will die (just like they do every flu season). But the population will be terrorized by breathless hype in the mainstream and controlled alt-media. The hype will also be fed by images of crisis actors falling down in the streets and being surrounded by people in biohazard suits. (It’s a good time to rent the movie Wag the Dog if you haven’t seen it already.) The purpose of the attack is to lock down the nation in advance of the engineered financial system collapse. Mass death is not their goal (this time), so don’t have a cow (but do have popcorn). There has been a lot of fog around the country the last few days. Even in places that don’t usually get it. |
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| Conchord
User ID: 75244248 United States01/29/2020 01:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Also saw that zantac increases chances of getting pneumonia. May want to pass on that one. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51605508 So does Nexium, but I will take it anyway. I have only read up to your post and am wondering if Jake has had his post commented on. Primatine Mist might be of help. Though, I think I would invest in a Colloidal Silver generator. And lots of Vitamin C. spraying c. silver and inhaling in my lungs has been one item to help me cough less and heal. helped me turn the corner, I'm sure. do you have any recommendations for c silver generator to buy? gonna invest in that as soon as I save up. thank you I just bought a silver generator on ebay that was affordable to me, so it is a small one but it did include the option to use batteries if the need for that arose. Ebay has these in many price ranges. Some people make their own. It is a simple thing and saves a ton of money. I like EmergenC, but I also have Vitamin C in bulk that I use also. But, if you are asking how to take it? I think taking it throughout the day is the way to go; up to bowel tolerance. Google that if you aren't familiar with it. I'm not a doctor, but I slept at a Howard Johnson's last night. The only thing true in the last sentence is I'm not a doctor. I am gladdened that your health is improving/improved. I just said a little prayer for your quick and complete healing, with no complications. In Jesus name, Amen. Last Edited by Conchord on 01/29/2020 01:11 AM "God made the heavens and the earth. It is up to man to create his own personal hell." Rob Serling "Every man is two men; one is awake in the darkness, the other asleep in the light." Khalil Gibran |
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| wkk
User ID: 78405034 United States01/29/2020 02:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Am I reading this correctly? Quoting: 1guynAz I count--- H2 = 3 boxes of drugs Pepcid, Tagamet, Adix or Zantac and PPI= 2 boxes of drugs Prillosec, Prevacid or Nexium and 1 bottle (?) of benedryl And at the onset of flu like symptoms we start the process of taking 6 drugs and swig the benedryl...everyday for two weeks? Am I correct?????? Please, let me know...I'm at work and will be back in a few hours to check. Thanks! Please go back and make sure because I think you might have misunderstood OR I misunderstood--but it would be good to confirm. From my understanding, you would be taking three drugs, not six. It is a box of pepcid, tagament OR zantac. I didn't see where OP answred you yet, so I thought I would throw this out there so you would make sure to check wkk |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77297450 United States01/29/2020 02:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So to be clear, you are saying if my ten year old comes down with this shit, give him each pill as directed and it will keep his body from going into shock and possible coma? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76892169 I am freaked out for my little boy. I dont give a shit what happens to me, but I cant watch him die or go comatose. If you are unable to get to see a doctor, because you live in a town of 100k and 20k are trying to see the doctor, too, and you are waiting and waiting...yes. Make sure you figure the dosage by weight for each of them. I know I gave my 10lb yorkie benedryll when he got a bee sting and became a limp doll in my hands.He did live. There is a formula online for the correct amount. I won't try to guess what I gave him, so do a search. |
| wkk
User ID: 78405034 United States01/29/2020 02:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Am I reading this correctly? Quoting: 1guynAz I count--- H2 = 3 boxes of drugs Pepcid, Tagamet, Adix or Zantac and PPI= 2 boxes of drugs Prillosec, Prevacid or Nexium and 1 bottle (?) of benedryl And at the onset of flu like symptoms we start the process of taking 6 drugs and swig the benedryl...everyday for two weeks? Am I correct?????? Please, let me know...I'm at work and will be back in a few hours to check. Thanks! YOu are not reading it correctly. YOu will need three types of drugs--not six. One of the first group, one of the second group and Benedryl. I hope you see this. haha - I LOL'd when I read the "swig the benedryl" - ROFLMAO .... so I could not find liquid and got the caplets. no one has died outside of china Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73682306 100 died in china want to save lives? don't breed If you were paying attention, you would know some have died. There is list going around with the counties of those infected and those who died.  Do tell - I have not see the list ............. mind sharing? So I went to the Dollar Store and got off-brand of everything - pricing MUCH better, same ingredients. wkk |
