WW3 Europe front. UPDATE page 532 -February 2024, the decisive month

Thanks Recollector for your fast reply and sorry for having you to reveal your difficult situation.

I’m so sorry for the loss of your father. The feelings of loss will ease in time. God heals all wounds.

I have a plan b for you: Find a spot on the map you think is safe. 500 feet up away from the coastline. You have to use your inner radar for this one. A place that keeps coming back to you. A place you are called to. This post is like jumping out on to the screen so I know there’s something waiting for you.

With or without the war, I believe your area is in trouble. I don’t like the idea of staying and trying to make it.

Take us with you on this journey. You just need a phone. That’s all I’ve used for years now. You, your brother and his wife will have to share the heavier load but your mother will help with the kids. Diabetes and high blood pressure are fairly common ailments and most health facilities can handle the symptoms.

We are here for ya DR. We have been working for years trying to define these worldly scourges. We really have to get the families to survive. That’s what we have been doing all this time, guy. Your really good at this piece of defining the problem. We need you on the other side. Kapeesh?

So go look at the map and see what pops out at’cha. Use your head and start the wheels turning.

Misty

Agree with what you have said.

I have a decent bug out car and a good bot tent kit, so when car is non functioning, I give it a shot with my backpack. I am so glad I invested in that, I will always have a shelter.. but I am riddled with health issues so cracking on with them best I can because part of me feels to take off before its time. I was thinking a year from now tops. And definitely when digi is rolled out.

I do live quite rural so out the city with open fire and lots of forests around me, but I realise when it goes down it will go down fast. I hope God can guide me the right time to foxtrot oscar as people will really show their ugly side

You're doing better than most...Im in similar boat as in farmland here, tools here, and preps to buffer. I have been stockpiling thyroid meds by not using them (so i feel and look like hell but Im not dead lol)

Now your mums diabetes...is it type two? Or is it the trickier one needing insulin injections?
Type two can be managed by ketogenic diet. Type one ..you need to find a way to support the pancreas and insulin pathway naturally and perhaps be able to reduce injections. Then maybe mum could build a stash. I havent had it so its out of my lane, just trying to brainstorm.

God is my buckler but I still feel like I might buckle with being overwhelmed.

Not many people here but most seem to have prepped. Towns only three miles away though and so that could be an issue.

after this night's strike on iran... what next?

a first strike?

iran closing the strait of hormuz?

The news that surfaced in the last 48 hours, are EXTREMELY WORRYING, and even if they are happening the way I have predicted to happen, I have no joy in being right.


I will not talk much about Iran's last night, because it's still fresh news, the info coming from Iran is sketchy at best, and while it matters in the grand scheme of things, other news are far more important.



To start with, I will talk about Iran. I personally dismiss any idea that missile or air strikes were conducted against Iran from a state actor military, be it Israel or the U.S.

It was most likely the work of sabotage groups financed by Israel, using drones and explosives, across several locations in Iran.

Once we will have more info that are coming from Iranian government, we will better understand what happened. Even if the Iranians will lie, their reaction to what happened, will clear up the current smoke screen on the events.




What is more important is that several events in the last 48 hours point to an imminent direct confrontation between NATO and Russia.



Firstly, the German officials, upon announcement, said that the EARLIEST POSSIBLE for Leopard 2 tanks to be delivered is at least 3 months (so beginning of May).


Then they said early April...and then they said it will be early March.Footage from Germany and Poland show that the German tanks were ALREADY MOVING by trains 3 days before the announcement was made.



I have said that those tanks won't have Ukrainians as tankers. They will have NATO tankers on board.

Except the 60 Polish P-91 tanks (a domestic variant of T72), which can instantly be manned by Ukrainians, ALL OTHER TANKS which are ALREADY in Poland and Germany, cannot, because we have British tanks (Challenger), French tanks (Lecrerc), German tanks (Leopard).


The ONLY POSSIBLE way that those tanks will be manned by Ukrainians, is if they were already trained, since at least 6 months ago, in secret, but this means that this escalation was already in the cards at least 6 months ago.



However, for reasons I will point out later, I exclude this possibility.


The early announcements about tanks, from Germany, Poland and the UK, was about 14 Challenger 2 from UK, 14 Leopard 2 from Poland and 2 Leopard 2 from Germany.

In the span of just THREE DAYS, we are now looking at 321 tanks to be delivered (or so they say, which is not true) to Ukraine.


We are also looking at over 1,000 armored infantry vehicles (of ALL sorts), hundreds of artillery (of ALL sorts), dozens of Air Defense batteries (of ALL sorts), including at least 4 Patriot.


Now, if anyone is absolutely RETARDED, sure, believe that Ukrainians are going to use all these VERY DIFFERENT TYPES of tanks, artillery, air defense, and not NATO military.



I have also pointed out that not only we can exclude Ukrainians in manning this hardware, we can exclude mercenaries as well...because I have stressed that there is NO WAY IN HELL THAT THOSE TANKS WILL BE SENT IN WITH NATO TROOPS ON BOARD WITHOUT AIR SUPPORT.



Basically, I have said that once F-16 are announced to be "delivered" to Ukraine, we will know 100% that those tanks WILL HAVE NATO TROOPS MANNING THEM, simply because even if it was done in secret, it would take YEARS to have F-16 pilots trained for COMBAT (not just take off and land).



It is logical that this escalation was clearly calculated to take place as the START OF DIRECT RUSSIA v NATO CONFRONTATION.


Another HEAVY ARGUMENT that those tanks, AD, arty, etc. and jets will have NATO troops and pilots using them, is the LOGISTIC SUPPORT and COMBINED ARMS OPERATIONS.



The situation on the Ukrainian front is absolutely dire for Ukraine. I will not go into detail, just want to point out why Ukraine is unable to do anything at this point, to stop Russian advances.


We all know that Russia mobilized 300,000 reservists in late September. It's been 4 months since, and training reservists takes maybe a month, hell, let's say two months?


WHERE ARE THEY? Because clearly they aren't fighting in Ukraine.


Even before the annexation of the 4 oblasts in Ukraine by Russia, we KNEW that Russia had 400 jets, 800 helicopters, 2,000 tanks and thousands of artillery pieces, along 100k+ troops stationed in the north and north-east of Ukraine.

WHERE ARE THEY? Because clearly they aren't doing anything in Ukraine.



Since 2023 started, ALL ADVANCES along the front lines were Wagner, Chechens and Donbass miltias.


WHERE IS THE RUSSIAN ARMY?



Well, the Russian army is doing what they have done since February 2022 : artillery support, spec-ops, air strikes and missiles strikes.




Now, the ONE MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION : WHY IS THAT THE UKRAINIAN ARMY AND NATO MERCS ARE UNABLE TO STOP MILITIAS AND WAGNER, which are mostly INFANTRY TROOPS?



The answer is SIMPLE : Ukrainian army and globalist mercs are no longer able to properly defend the entire front line because they have been reduced to a shadow of their former strength.


Russian forces attack all over the place. Ukraine moves troops from one point to the other, being able to stop the Russians in one point, but lose another. And so on, and so on.


Since January 1st, Ukraine lost KEY LOCATIONS, one after the other, because they NO LONGER DEFEND.



So, if they can't even DEFEND, asking them to do COMBAT ARMS OPERATIONS be it defensive or offensive, is a chimera.




The LOGISTIC part of Ukraine being able to repair, produce ammo and supply the Western hardware that the West say they will deliver to Ukraine is NON EXISTENT.

There is no NATO ammo factory in Ukraine
There are no NATO repair shops in Ukraine.


Not only that there are multiple types of hardware, produced by multiple Western companies, with their OWN repair crews, their OWN specifications, their OWN factories for parts, there are also multiple DIFFERENT ammo needed, etc. etc.




So, the conclusion is that all of that hardware promised to Ukraine...WILL NOT GO TO UKRAINE, UNLESS MANNED BY NATO TROOPS, SUPPORTED BY NATO AIR POWER AND NATO LONG RANGE MISSILE CAPABILITIES.



The tanks are coming...with NATO tankers.
The jets are coming...with NATO pilots.
The artillery and air defense are coming...with NATO personnel.
The long range ATACAMS are coming...for NATO HIMARS in Poland and Romania.



But it will HAVE TO BE OFFICIAL, because no NATO soldier will ever go in Ukraine stripped of his military uniform and rights.




The West will "propose" a peace plan. Russia will reject it.
Ukraine front lines are crumbling.
Russia have over 700,000 troops, with thousands upon thousands of tanks, artillery, jets, helis...WAITING. Waiting to fight NATO, not Ukrainian former army.


The West will "prove" that Russia is a menace, and the ONLY WAY TO STOP THEM COMING TO US, because this will also "proven" as a Russian plan after Ukraine, is for NATO TO STOP THEM.




I don't know how long it will take until the above will happen, but looking at the flurry of military deployments and declarations from all sides, at the collapsing rate of Ukrainian forces, and the MASSIVE RUSSIAN FORCES OUTSIDE UKRAINE, I'd say that we won't see March of 2023 without a direct clash between NATO and Russia.



Maybe not even Valentine's day...

Last Edited by Recollector on 01/29/2023 07:43 AM

[link to apnews.com (secure)] near Galati, there are Leclerc tanks and preparing for action, with Nato troups.
In M.Kogalniceanu, already are transportors Stryker, fight machines Bradley, Abrams tanks and elicopters Black Hawk and Apache. Few days earlier, was an notice about sending an American general ( 2 stars) here in Romanian Nato base, and also high officers.
[link to www.army.mil (secure)]

It didn't take long before Zelenski is saying the OBVIOUS :


Ukraine needs fighter jets to protect the tanks they are receiving, and also long range missiles (ATACMS), to destroy the Russian artillery, which impedes offensive operations.



He also said that discussions regarding jets and long range missiles are in the final stages, and he is highly positive it will bear the results Ukraine wants.




Oh well...everything I just said comes to fruition.




This is why I have said that tanks = WW3, because tanks without air support and countering air defense are IRRELEVANT in the big picture.

Last Edited by Recollector on 01/29/2023 12:16 PM

But even if Nato sends 300 tanks with air support, what they could do?

They can consolidate the last line of defense in donbass (slavjansk kramatorsk) and give the Ukrainians some other month before the collapse.

To change the course of war Nato should put together an army capable of launching offensives on donetsk, lugansk... If they want to win they should reach rostov, kursk, belgorod and then force russia to a humiliating peace. How many tanks and jets should they need?

Maybe it's a bit hard for people to separate reality from propaganda, and it should be so, because that is the purpose of propaganda.


The propaganda is that Ukraine is going to get NATO tanks, NATO jets, NATO missiles, NATO air defense.


The REALITY is that NATO troops will be rolling on those tanks, fly those jets, launch those missiles.


The REALITY is that NATO troops cannot and will go to Ukraine in those tanks, jets, etc. WITHOUT OFFICIAL ORDERS.


And this means that NATO, in one form or another WILL START AN OFFICIAL OPERATION AGAINST Russia, which means WW3.




And WW3 means A LOT MORE THEN 300 TANKS.




The gas lighting is "tanks for Ukraine, jets for Ukraine, missiles for Ukraine", when in fact NATO will directly fight Russia, and NATO will JUST START WITH THOSE 300 tanks and other crap they announced it.

.

How does the attacks in Iran come into this ?

Good question..

Separating reality from propaganda is not just hard, it is impossible. Here in the UK there was/is NO practical coverage in the MSM, hof the Ukraine theatre of war. None, from the start.
Oh yes, there are Ukrainians flags everywhere, and indeed natives, every speech, / demand by the Ukrainian regime is broadcast, every Western government applauding Z is broadcast, every possible slur is cast on the Russians, every human tragedy in Ukraine is covered in gory detail, but the actual course of the war? Maps, forces, operations, advances, retreats - no. Yes, a para or two in the serious papers that this city or that has fallen, but briefly and reluctantly. The gutter press would prefer not even to say that.
All war reports from an engaged nation are necessarily biased - think of the Ww11 news reels in 1940, with the voice of an upper class reporter saying The British Army are falling back in good order on Dunkirk, with our gallant Air Force protecting them in the skies, when of course the reality was a confused chaotic hell, - but at least they reported it as going on.
This is unprecedented. And sinister.There is no attempt to give a causus bell. There are no treaties, blood ties or shared history between this western nation ( other than commercial ties, which the war has ruined) the regime we are preparing to give our all for potentially is a one party state, no pretence of democracy, and it is now publucly enmeshed in financial corruption.
The idea being peddled that Russia will invade the rest of Europe strikes me as ludicrous. What would they get out of that? Nothing but trouble.
On the other hand the idea that some VERY IMPORTANT People need to get their hands on 70% of earth's natural resources located in Russia, because their world takeover bid will fail without them gets more believable by the minute.

My condolences for the loss of your father. He will be with you in spirit in the time to come, the grief passes, but the love remains.

To add another twist to the entire matter -- the US military is currently very de-moralized. cannot make recruitment goals. Cannot even make goals for applications to the Academies.

People leaving or retiring as soon as possible. Mostly due to disgust with the forced woke politics.

Washington asks Russia to keep US response on security guarantees secret - paper

WASHINGTON, January 22. /TASS/.

"There‘s one decision-maker in Russia and it’s President Putin," the paper quoted another Biden administration official as saying. "If this then allows the ultimate decision-maker in Russia to looks at these ideas and decide whether to move forward, it’s in our interest."
"We don’t want to be the ones who foreclose a potential diplomatic solution," he added.

[link to tass.com (secure)]


Russian Deputy Foreign Minister: Moscow is ready for consultations with Washington to find solutions to issues of common concern.

[link to mobile.twitter.com (secure)]

Last Edited by Guythu on 01/30/2023 05:29 AM

I’m happy for you having a good prep plan. I’m not so prepared as I’m leaving in a condo in the city center with a daughter and her two kids, not easy to get a good prep as in the rural areas.
Every wish for your plan! God bless we all.

That is a very interesting bit of information. When I was in school, they always had those who were turned away or dropped out of the academies. They always seemed to have plenty of students wanting in. How has sentiment turned - it won't bode well if they need officers in a hurry for a war. I wonder how ROTC is doing with enrollments.

Iran will block the strait of Hormuz.

China will move for Taiwan.


BUT NEITHER WILL HAPPEN BEFORE RUSSIA v NATO CLASHES STARTS ACROSS EUROPE.

[link to warnews247.gr (secure)]

Ukraine will also get F-16:The discussion on the granting offighters has begun - "In six months the Ukrainians will have been trained"

LMAO

It started on 12th...dumbass.


Problem is, you live in video games, and don't understand shit about real war.


Ukrainian sources, Western sources, both pro and anti Russia and Ukraine commentators on Youtube, small or big are saying the same thing, right after Soledar fell : Russian offensive started.


The simple fact that it doesn't fits your views on what an invasion means (as I said, you live in video games), that doesn't mean it started and it is ongoing.

Last Edited by Recollector on 02/03/2023 04:07 AM

2023.02.01 The West Is Now Impotent In The Ukraine Conflict



[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

Well, he is wrong.


The West is not impotent. It is weak, yes, but impotent?


No.

Last Edited by Recollector on 02/01/2023 01:33 PM

I was questioning his statement myself, thanks for your opinion.

In reality, what does Russia want from this? I read all of the tactics, propaganda, war strategy, and threats between countries and NATO, but what is the ultimate goal?

And, if we had a different leader in the United States, do you think this would continue? Biden seems to have such a vested interest in Ukraine maybe even a personal one/

Last Edited by La Listener on 02/02/2023 01:28 AM

What Russia want, they presented it to the U.S. and NATO, in an official document, back in late 2021.


Russia's requests are crystal clear : a NEW security formula in Europe.


This includes a neutral Ukraine (which should be legally adopted by Ukraine's Constitution), a heavily downsized Ukraine military, Ukraine's security will be subject to a treaty between Russia and NATO, removal of all NATO foreign personnel, bases and military installations from any country in Europe that joined after 1996.


This is what Russia wants, and it's the ONLY WAY for peace and avoid WW3.




A different leader in the U.S...The U.S. didn't had a leader since JFK.


JFK was the last leader of the U.S., and because of that, he was killed. After that, the U.S. was ran by a clique of globalists, who infiltrated all branches of government, media, finances and economy, finishing this process by the end of Obama's 1st term.


The LAST ATTEMPT at reversing this was tried with Trump, and personally, I hoped it would work. He didn't ended up killed, like JFK, simply because Trump was not a leader, but a wanna-be leader, who didn't realized that he is just a nobody, and the U.S., as a free nation, WAS LONG GONE.



So, no, it wouldn't be any different.



Biden personal interests in Ukraine are irrelevant. The U.S. empire is dying, and it won't survive the shift that is coming unless it gets rid of the ones who TRULY own it...and that is not going to happen, simply because the U.S. population is too stupid to understand what is going on, the Americans, as a whole, are highly uneducated, brainwashed, divided, easy to manipulate, and frankly, what is more dangerous, THE AMERICANS NO LONGER CARE ABOUT THEIR COUNTRY.



The process that took place in the West, and especially in the U.S., in the last 50 years (de-education, massive corruption, globalist takeover of pretty much everything, promoting ass-kissers everywhere, instead professionals, including the military) it is the reason why the world is facing, and WILL SUFFER the consequences of World War 3.

Last Edited by Recollector on 02/02/2023 04:31 AM

Put the subtitles in English and you will understand.


It is definitely called the elimination of the enemy, it is what is happening in the West thanks to the policies of substitution of heterosexual men and women, and if they are white, all the better.


Soon the same deep state will drop a nuclear bomb or two on the USA to create its dictatorship and say it was Russia, China or North Korea.

IMO, Putin wants to rebuild the former Russian Empire (not to be confused with the former Soviet Union), make himself Czar Vlad, First of His Name. He wants to go down in history as such.