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WW3 Europe front. UPDATE page 532 -February 2024, the decisive month

 
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They aren't wasting any time is seems lol
Luckily for Russia their forces are free from the woke contamination.

The west will regret waking the bear up.


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Whats happening in China!!!!
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Whats happening in China!!!!
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? what is

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Whats happening in China!!!!
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the zombie videos?
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Op what do you think about the Nato build up in Poland and Romania? Are we entering the war?
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Whats happening in China!!!!
 Quoting: ParamedicUK


What is happening there exactly? It seems a bit confusing as to what is shit/legit.
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Whats happening in China!!!!
 Quoting: ParamedicUK


What is happening there exactly? It seems a bit confusing as to what is shit/legit.
 Quoting: Elevatorguy


Nothing it seems. They huffed and puffed but so far no relevant status quo change happened. The US and even Japan made their freedom of navigation thing, sailing the Taiwan straits recently..... the US will continue to supply Taiwan ever more capable weapons for "self-defense". And given the disproportionate screaming the Chinese did, with the pelosi visit and not following thru with its red-lines, the significant end result I can see is the US becoming ever more so emboldened to keep stirring shit whenever it wants to.

As for the Russia mobilization, 2 things to add:

1- The actual number signed in the decree was kept secret. So 300k is just the warming-up phase, I'm sure this time Russia will not make the same mistake of going half-assed.

So this number will be whatever it needs to be. For now they are just dusting-off the bear's war-machine. As I said, the west will bitterly regret provoking this.

2- Many analysts are concluding that with this move, NATO will follow the only rational course of action and will finally back-off...

I think we know better that this is not what will happen AT ALL. The US may slow down or even make a strategic pause, to dissuade the Russians, but the most likely outcome is that they will just pretend that nothing happened, and will keep pushing forward.

Then the ball will be on the Russia's court, what to do next.

I predict they may insist for a while with reducing civil casualties but this won't last for long.... sooner rather than later, they will have to bring the hammer down and the intervention will become more like Iraq's invasion (shock'n awe, full destruction galore) then the way the SMO introduced.

The stakes are high enough now that Russia can't risk playing nice anymore.
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As far as I share the opinions of DR and you about how serious the situation is and how Western Europe can definitely collapse in winter, I don't see a single point WHY NATO should or would intervene militarily in Ukraine.

Even if we have technologically advanced jets and tanks in NATO, though not the most advanced nuclear warheads like Putin, even NATO would not enter into a military intervention with Russia on its own.


I can rather imagine that Russia would declare war on NATO if the annexed territories were under enormous fire from Western weapons systems.

Putin has his back to the wall. And that is what makes him so dangerous. Domestically, his popularity will decline in the coming weeks and months, because the war has now reached every family in Russia.

Exciting times...
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As far as I share the opinions of DR and you about how serious the situation is and how Western Europe can definitely collapse in winter, I don't see a single point WHY NATO should or would intervene militarily in Ukraine.

Even if we have technologically advanced jets and tanks in NATO, though not the most advanced nuclear warheads like Putin, even NATO would not enter into a military intervention with Russia on its own.


I can rather imagine that Russia would declare war on NATO if the annexed territories were under enormous fire from Western weapons systems.

Putin has his back to the wall. And that is what makes him so dangerous. Domestically, his popularity will decline in the coming weeks and months, because the war has now reached every family in Russia.

Exciting times...
 Quoting: German Potatao 75046560


nafo is currently there, how can u and guys likee u be so blinded wow
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Any idea when the referendum results will be announced? Today is the last day of it, correct?
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As far as I share the opinions of DR and you about how serious the situation is and how Western Europe can definitely collapse in winter, I don't see a single point WHY NATO should or would intervene militarily in Ukraine.

Even if we have technologically advanced jets and tanks in NATO, though not the most advanced nuclear warheads like Putin, even NATO would not enter into a military intervention with Russia on its own.


I can rather imagine that Russia would declare war on NATO if the annexed territories were under enormous fire from Western weapons systems.

Putin has his back to the wall. And that is what makes him so dangerous. Domestically, his popularity will decline in the coming weeks and months, because the war has now reached every family in Russia.

Exciting times...
 Quoting: German Potatao 75046560


nafo is currently there, how can u and guys likee u be so blinded wow
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NATO Supplies for sure but no NATO Troops. Like bro if russia would be aware of that instant kinetic WW3.

Yeah this is GLP and we are all a bit doomy, but this isnt the reality.
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Re: WW3 Europe front. UPDATE page 532 -February 2024, the decisive month
The north stream has been destroyed

Does the time for nukes has come?
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There are several more gas pipes, here is a map [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]


And a new one, opened today, of all days
[link to ec.europa.eu (secure)]

Last Edited by Northlights on 09/27/2022 09:54 AM
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The north stream has been destroyed

Does the time for nukes has come?
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Biden did it.

Thread: BIDEN admits US behind sabotage of Nordstream 1 and 2.
German Potatao
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OP we need an update after NS blew up.


I suggest you all to watch the Stream on 22:00


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OP we need an update after NS blew up.


I suggest you all to watch the Stream on 22:00

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]


Did the US just destroy the Nordstream 2 pipeline? Germany faces a disaster in the making as natural gas is cutoff from Russia. Russia and China line up warships off the coast of Alaska. Serbia signs an agreement with Russia. And UFO's take front stage in Washington.
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As far as I share the opinions of DR and you about how serious the situation is and how Western Europe can definitely collapse in winter, I don't see a single point WHY NATO should or would intervene militarily in Ukraine.

Even if we have technologically advanced jets and tanks in NATO, though not the most advanced nuclear warheads like Putin, even NATO would not enter into a military intervention with Russia on its own.


I can rather imagine that Russia would declare war on NATO if the annexed territories were under enormous fire from Western weapons systems.

Putin has his back to the wall. And that is what makes him so dangerous. Domestically, his popularity will decline in the coming weeks and months, because the war has now reached every family in Russia.

Exciting times...
 Quoting: German Potatao 75046560



Short replies, because I am preparing an update for Friday :


1.If you don't see why NATO, which is already present in Ukraine in LARGE NUMBERS, will be dragged into the war...you clearly either don't see the big picture (Clash of the Titans for the future of humanity : Russia/China vs USA) or you cannot accept/agree with the big picture.


2.Russia will not declare war on NATO if Russia (with or w/o new annexed areas) will be under UKRAINIAN attacks using Western weapons. Russia will not even declare war on Ukraine, but will blow it back to stone age.


3.If you think that Putin's popularity will decline because of WAR...you don't know shit about Russians, Russia and Russia's history. When Russia is AT WAR, and it is EXISTENTIAL (as it will be once WW3 starts), the leader of Russia will reach unbelievable popularity and support (which as of NOW, according to an "independent", but 100% funded by the U.S. government, pollster, is at 86%.
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OP we need an update after NS blew up.


I suggest you all to watch the Stream on 22:00

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]


Did the US just destroy the Nordstream 2 pipeline? Germany faces a disaster in the making as natural gas is cutoff from Russia. Russia and China line up warships off the coast of Alaska. Serbia signs an agreement with Russia. And UFO's take front stage in Washington.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75046560




No update until Friday.
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If it was just NS1 being blown up, we could even speculate about a FF by Russia itself.

But as it is, with NS2 too being sabotaged.... unless it's a very intricate FF plan... I don't see Russia being responsible.

Number 1 suspect is US directly or indirectly.

And if we assume that it was indeed the US, this only highlight how far they will go to wreak havoc and fuck Russia, no matter if EU will be sacrificed along for this to happen.

I particularly don't like the fact that Russia/Putin keeps reiterating nuclear threats. "Oh we will do this.... we can do that....". This strongly implies an empty threat, which is the way almost everybody is interpreting that.

Maybe this is just a fucking protocolar necessity by Russia to keep stating the obvious that everybody knows. The fact that the US is "warning" Russia not to do it, is a sign that they detected some actual preparatory moves being made (which could still be a "faint" by Russia to scare the US) but we won't know for sure until the last minute.

The rumor is that Russia made the decision to use tactical nukes, which considering the stakes involved, they should fucking do it. If with 300k troops + tact nukes they can get the same results that would require double the troops to achieve, there's no logical reason to go the harder way.

This IS extential for Russia and they should make this clear from the outset, no fuckarounditis.

If the US is actually behind this sabotage thing, Russia should understand, if they don't already, that a direct confrontation is inevitable. Not 10 years from now, but at best 10 months from now. They better be prepared for that.
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Agree with his analysis. Russia doesn't benefit at all from this.

They will have to retaliate somehow...

anything now is fair game.
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The Special Military Operation is almost over. Putin has repositioned the troops to defend "New Russia" after the votes are finalized and the 4 regions are absorbed into Russia. And Zelensky is left with his dick in his hand in Kharkiv.
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There is good intel that Belarus will NOT mobilize, in stead they are secretly talking to the US and the EU. Russia is loosing allies by the day. Even China and India are agreeing that Russia and Ukraine must stop the war.
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There is good intel that Belarus will NOT mobilize, in stead they are secretly talking to the US and the EU. Russia is loosing allies by the day. Even China and India are agreeing that Russia and Ukraine must stop the war.
 Quoting: The King of Rock 'n Roll


lol no.
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The Special Military Operation is almost over. Putin has repositioned the troops to defend "New Russia" after the votes are finalized and the 4 regions are absorbed into Russia. And Zelensky is left with his dick in his hand in Kharkiv.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60620895


Yep troops anywhere outside those 4 regions will pull back.

And Ukraine will shout they have pushed them back !!
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Just some information on nuclear weapon.

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Agree with his analysis. Russia doesn't benefit at all from this.

They will have to retaliate somehow...

anything now is fair game.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84234333


There's two bits of info, that if true, may change this analysis somewhat:

Russia contract with germany to provide gas until 2030 via NS1 specifies that even if the gas is not delivered due to some problem it must still be paid in full. I'm not sure if force majeure would be required for that. The siemens turbine thing created a dispute if that would constitute force majeure or not. The blowup of the pipe surely ends this dispute.

And more relevant is the info that NS2 was mostly financed by western firms who would hold the bag for the destruction of NS2. So.... not a true loss for Russia here, except for the opportunity/leverage for a potential deal in the future with Germany.

Geopolitically it seems to be a loss, unless Russia was absolutely certain that this would not ever happen, specially after the referendums.

Also the coincidence of the explosions which happened the exact same day poland was inaugurating an alternative.... there is different ways to look at that.

Finally the way Russia is talking about this... sounds almost Cynical, no outrage at all from all statements I saw so far. Even if they didn't do it, they aren't that much worried/disturbed.

So I'm not sure I would discard a false flag by Russia on this event. It may not even be relevant who did it after all. The barn for similar attacks however was opened irrespective of who did it.
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It’s going to be a mad big update DR!
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It’s going to be a mad big update DR!
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Will be looking for it tomorrow. Will update title.
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