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WW3 Europe front. UPDATE page 532 -February 2024, the decisive month

 
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Going to below freezing AM temps in parts of Norway, Sweden, and the Alps on Tuesday. Let the fun begin…
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Europe was relatively lucky in the last decades, we only had a handful of proper winters in the last 20 years.


It seems like this year is going to be one of those long and cold winters, a proper winter, so to speak.


I ignore meteorological predictions, the same way I ignore palm reading or earthquake predictions.



Weather is weather, historical data help a lot, anyone can predict how the weather will generally look in any future season.


What I personally remember and know is that after a long, hot summer, there is a high chance that the winter is going to be cold and long.


If this is going to be the case, with current energy prices and stockpiles in Europe, we're looking at a disaster that will reach cataclysmic proportions in many countries in Europe.



It is quite hard to find a reliable information source on mortality due to cold, because the propaganda is pushing mortality due to heat (all the BS about climate change), but generally speaking, 10 times more people die due to cold then heat, and this is only in the last 30 years.



Europeans are living the good life, having a home and heat during winter was not an issue for a very long time. The deaths during cold season are low exactly because of that.



But Europeans, in the last 30 years, did a CRAPTON of stupid things, that converged today to the point of seeing the European populations thrown back into medieval times this winter, and the aftermath is going to be horrendous.



We shut down our coal mines, our coal-powered electric and thermal plants, in the name of "going green", we "are sticking it to Putin", and the gas stockpiles are not going to be enough, not to mention that most won't be able to pay for it, or for electricity, elderly especially.



Covid flu, even if absolutely low in term of mortality, was affecting elderly especially, and the elderly were also the first to be "vaccinated".


We all know that the globalists hate humans, but they especially hate the elderly, because, well, in their satanic thinking, they are no longer "productive".



This winter, if nothing changes back to normality, Europe will see a catastrophic death rate among the elderly. Millions of our granpas and grandmas will die this winter in Europe. Millions of children will suffer from cold, and many of them will, sadly, die. And if we're going to have BOTH heat and power rationing, Europe is going to be HELL this winter : deaths, hospitals overcrowded, massive unemployment, sky-high criminality, uprisings and riots will become a daily occurrence.



If the current trend continues, and winter is going to be cold and long, Europe is going to collapse this winter.



And God forbid that the war in Ukraine goes where it clearly seems to be going : WW3.




As I said before, the globalist plans failed, but they are still sticking to their agenda, and the harm they have done and will still do, is going to affect us greatly, for many, many years.
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Great update as usual DR

Well , its mid-September and here on the North Essex coast its got cold. Not normally this cold until mid-October, so I am thinking long and hard Winter ahead.

I am super lucky as I have 2 log burners in my house, the shed is full of logs/wood/kindling

As for Winter clothing I am kitted out as well as I can be. Pantry well stocked too so am hoping that I will ride it through if things get bad.

One thing I have noticed is how clothing seems to go out of stock VERY quickly, so if anyone is dithering about the purchase of warm clothes - get in there !!!

I have cut my work hours and am starting my degree with Open University (at the ripe old age of 58), so I won't be traipsing out in the cold months

I think the best thing to do is to keep ahead of the news and stay prepared - the hikes in the gas/electric bills havent really hit me yet, I have bought a Ninja so am saving £££££ on fuel cooking in that
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Op at this point I suspect that the main Russian goal is to prolong the war as much as they can

The reason is that they have discovered that, thanks to the western sanctions, they have never earned so much money selling oil and gas. The end of the sanctions would mean the collapse of the price, and surely they don't want this to happen

If I'm right I think Europe will freeze for years to come
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Op at this point I suspect that the main Russian goal is to prolong the war as much as they can

The reason is that they have discovered that, thanks to the western sanctions, they have never earned so much money selling oil and gas. The end of the sanctions would mean the collapse of the price, and surely they don't want this to happen

If I'm right I think Europe will freeze for years to come
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You have a point.

Russia is taking down the West without firing a shot in said direction.
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Also regarding Europe especially Germany we must not forget millions of illegal immigrants who will - understandably - watch out for themself this winter and will group together according to their cultures and ethics and will all go against Germans and each other.

It will make Haiti look like a nice place.
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Great update as usual DR

Well , its mid-September and here on the North Essex coast its got cold. Not normally this cold until mid-October, so I am thinking long and hard Winter ahead.

I am super lucky as I have 2 log burners in my house, the shed is full of logs/wood/kindling

As for Winter clothing I am kitted out as well as I can be. Pantry well stocked too so am hoping that I will ride it through if things get bad.

One thing I have noticed is how clothing seems to go out of stock VERY quickly, so if anyone is dithering about the purchase of warm clothes - get in there !!!

I have cut my work hours and am starting my degree with Open University (at the ripe old age of 58), so I won't be traipsing out in the cold months

I think the best thing to do is to keep ahead of the news and stay prepared - the hikes in the gas/electric bills havent really hit me yet, I have bought a Ninja so am saving £££££ on fuel cooking in that
 Quoting: Martha Edwards


With you all the way. Need to stock up on supplies but almost there. One log burner but fully insulated house. Loads of camping kit if needed.

Also 58 and looking at cutting my NHS hours. Feel the Winter will be long and cold. 2 inchs of snow and England stops working!

It’s going to be a rough ride.

What’s a Ninja?


UK Keep Calm Sma

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Herd immunity and vaccine free is the only way……

Peace not War.
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Great update as usual DR

Well , its mid-September and here on the North Essex coast its got cold. Not normally this cold until mid-October, so I am thinking long and hard Winter ahead.

I am super lucky as I have 2 log burners in my house, the shed is full of logs/wood/kindling

As for Winter clothing I am kitted out as well as I can be. Pantry well stocked too so am hoping that I will ride it through if things get bad.

One thing I have noticed is how clothing seems to go out of stock VERY quickly, so if anyone is dithering about the purchase of warm clothes - get in there !!!

I have cut my work hours and am starting my degree with Open University (at the ripe old age of 58), so I won't be traipsing out in the cold months

I think the best thing to do is to keep ahead of the news and stay prepared - the hikes in the gas/electric bills havent really hit me yet, I have bought a Ninja so am saving £££££ on fuel cooking in that
 Quoting: Martha Edwards


With you all the way. Need to stock up on supplies but almost there. One log burner but fully insulated house. Loads of camping kit if needed.

Also 58 and looking at cutting my NHS hours. Feel the Winter will be long and cold. 2 inchs of snow and England stops working!

It’s going to be a rough ride.

What’s a Ninja?


:UK Keep Calm Sma:
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Great update as usual DR

Well , its mid-September and here on the North Essex coast its got cold. Not normally this cold until mid-October, so I am thinking long and hard Winter ahead.

I am super lucky as I have 2 log burners in my house, the shed is full of logs/wood/kindling

As for Winter clothing I am kitted out as well as I can be. Pantry well stocked too so am hoping that I will ride it through if things get bad.

One thing I have noticed is how clothing seems to go out of stock VERY quickly, so if anyone is dithering about the purchase of warm clothes - get in there !!!

I have cut my work hours and am starting my degree with Open University (at the ripe old age of 58), so I won't be traipsing out in the cold months

I think the best thing to do is to keep ahead of the news and stay prepared - the hikes in the gas/electric bills havent really hit me yet, I have bought a Ninja so am saving £££££ on fuel cooking in that
 Quoting: Martha Edwards


With you all the way. Need to stock up on supplies but almost there. One log burner but fully insulated house. Loads of camping kit if needed.

Also 58 and looking at cutting my NHS hours. Feel the Winter will be long and cold. 2 inchs of snow and England stops working!

It’s going to be a rough ride.

What’s a Ninja?


:UK Keep Calm Sma:
 Quoting: ParamedicUK


Hi Para

A Ninja is an all in one cooking appliance......has cut my electric bill by about 3.00 a week

Where I live its one road in and one road out, winding roads with a bit of an incline, so if we get snow we do get cut off, so Im always stocked up with essentials

Found out a while ago I'm on Economy 7 so am up and about early doing the washing/hoovering and boiling the kettle before it switches over to the high rate....

Just have a feeling that Winter could be very long and hard, my Dad always said a long hard Winter follows a long hot Summer....
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This is big! DPR,LPR, Kherson to hold referendums over beeing a part of Russia from Septemner 23. To September 27.
Omfg this could really be the trigger now.

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Op I'm reading about referendums, annexation and mobilization

This means ww3 in weeks right?
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Also regarding Europe especially Germany we must not forget millions of illegal immigrants who will - understandably - watch out for themself this winter and will group together according to their cultures and ethics and will all go against Germans and each other.

It will make Haiti look like a nice place.
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Maybe they will head back to their homeland and warmer temps.

God knows, if WWIII breaks out, they will not be willing to fight for the land that has been hosting their parasitic asses.
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I think Putin (the Russians) got the go for the referendums and the following mobilizations from China, India and Iran at the summit in Samarkant.

This fucking huge!
And a brilliant chess move.Never expected this so quick.
And what is NATO going to do????
WW3 seems the logical outcome.
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Maybe they will head back to their homeland and warmer temps.

God knows, if WWIII breaks out, they will not be willing to fight for the land that has been hosting their parasitic asses.
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I am a stalker with a micro peen and the EQ of a chubby 12 year old.
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Tick tock



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China and Russia head just met recently, both country are ready?

I always got a feeling Russia is waiting for something.

My guess is both their new ultrasonic nuclear missile?
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Also regarding Europe especially Germany we must not forget millions of illegal immigrants who will - understandably - watch out for themself this winter and will group together according to their cultures and ethics and will all go against Germans and each other.

It will make Haiti look like a nice place.
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Maybe they will head back to their homeland and warmer temps.

God knows, if WWIII breaks out, they will not be willing to fight for the land that has been hosting their parasitic asses.
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I am a stalking micro peen with the EQ of a 12 year old.

Perhaps they should have kept me at the mental institution longer.

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exactly!

it seems so off right now
I think Putin (the Russians) got the go for the referendums and the following mobilizations from China, India and Iran at the summit in Samarkant.

This fucking huge!
And a brilliant chess move.Never expected this so quick.
And what is NATO going to do????
WW3 seems the logical outcome.
 Quoting: lol79
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Also regarding Europe especially Germany we must not forget millions of illegal immigrants who will - understandably - watch out for themself this winter and will group together according to their cultures and ethics and will all go against Germans and each other.

It will make Haiti look like a nice place.
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Maybe they will head back to their homeland and warmer temps.

God knows, if WWIII breaks out, they will not be willing to fight for the land that has been hosting their parasitic asses.
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I am a stalking micro peen with the EQ of a 12 year old.

Perhaps they should have kept me at the mental institution longer.
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That's one shaky-ass 12 year old...
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Also regarding Europe especially Germany we must not forget millions of illegal immigrants who will - understandably - watch out for themself this winter and will group together according to their cultures and ethics and will all go against Germans and each other.

It will make Haiti look like a nice place.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84216255


Maybe they will head back to their homeland and warmer temps.

God knows, if WWIII breaks out, they will not be willing to fight for the land that has been hosting their parasitic asses.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith




I am a stalking micro peen with the EQ of a 12 year old.

Perhaps they should have kept me at the mental institution longer.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82520058


That's one shaky-ass 12 year old...
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He's pathetic.

I feel sorry for him in many ways.
Fate whispers to the warrior

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He's pathetic.

I feel sorry for him in many ways.
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He's pathetic.

I feel sorry for him in many ways.
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Thank you for proving my point.

Pathetic.

The thing you hate the most is yourself, and rightly so.
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I think Putin (the Russians) got the go for the referendums and the following mobilizations from China, India and Iran at the summit in Samarkant.

This fucking huge!
And a brilliant chess move.Never expected this so quick.
And what is NATO going to do????
WW3 seems the logical outcome.
 Quoting: lol79


from what I'am gathering, the refereduns will set rhe stage to end the SMO and begin formal war.

Since the new acquired territories will be Rússia proper... they will need to be defended which will require an appropriated force hence this mobilization talk.

it appears they will go for a combo.
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WTF? Why did he not held this spech?
The live stream from a link to a russian provider given in a pinned thread went off line aprox 5mins. ago.

This is courious.Absolutely not his style?
Did he got assassinated or what?
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WTF? Why did he not held this spech?
The live stream from a link to a russian provider given in a pinned thread went off line aprox 5mins. ago.

This is courious.Absolutely not his style?
Did he got assassinated or what?
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They are saying speech postponed till tomorrow...
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WTF? Why did he not held this spech?
The live stream from a link to a russian provider given in a pinned thread went off line aprox 5mins. ago.

This is courious.Absolutely not his style?
Did he got assassinated or what?
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They are saying speech postponed till tomorrow...
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Ok thx.
This is strange.
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Perhaps the announcement is drastic, like mobilisation? so they may have some important security measures to beeing taken before the speech and they were not done yet?
This whole situation is exciting and a bit nerve racking.lol
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Perhaps the announcement is drastic, like mobilisation? so they may have some important security measures to beeing taken before the speech and they were not done yet?
This whole situation is exciting and a bit nerve racking.lol
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I’ve read the speech will be pre-recorded.
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WTF? Why did he not held this spech?
The live stream from a link to a russian provider given in a pinned thread went off line aprox 5mins. ago.

This is courious.Absolutely not his style?
Did he got assassinated or what?
 Quoting: lol79



They are saying speech postponed till tomorrow...
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Ok thx.
This is strange.
 Quoting: lol79


It is strange. But everything the last few years have been strange and keep getting weirder.
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WTF? Why did he not held this spech?
The live stream from a link to a russian provider given in a pinned thread went off line aprox 5mins. ago.

This is courious.Absolutely not his style?
Did he got assassinated or what?
 Quoting: lol79



They are saying speech postponed till tomorrow...
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Let's see if this postponement means anything at all, or just happened for practical reasons.

But the internal movement inside Russia points to that direction. It the referendums goes as planned next week, then mobilization, even if gradual at first, will be a given.

More important than the mobilization is the lifting of restrictions that this move will bring. This will end the SMO and bring traditional warfare to the table.

Even without any extra mobilization, that's more than enough to radically shift the shape of this conflict.

Also the legal framework for a full-scale mobilization is being set in the open, so it won't be a surprise when it happens. But like I said before, I believe Russia will only go "all-the-way" if it is to engage NATO directly.

With this move of the referendum/annexation, Russia WILL have to fully prepare to engage NATO at any moment, as all bets will be OFF by then.

Everything most hoped would happen back in feb'24 when Russia crossed the border.... will start to happen the moment the new territories are formally absorbed by the RF.

And all of that with tacit approval by India, China, Iran and even Turkey it seems.

kinetic WW3 seems just around the corner, as never before.
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'partial' mobilization announced by Putiin

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I have already stated my position on current events, but I will repeat the reasoning behind it :


Russia is preparing for war with NATO since at least 10 years ago. The more time passes, and the more events take place, the big picture becomes clearer.


At this point, I believe that Russia is preparing for the war with NATO since 2007, so roughly 15 years.



I have also said that Russia set up a trap for the West, and the West already fell in this trap. The trap was masterfully set in such way, that the West can only REACT to what Russia is doing, not fully understanding what is happening. Maybe they realize what is happening, but the West cannot do anything to change the chain of events.



Russia, with Ukraine, is putting the West in front of TWO choices : lose the war fast or slow. There is no option of winning, for the West.


If the West chooses to directly intervene in Ukraine, and start WW3, Russia and its allies are much better prepared for this scenario. The West is economically weak, and they know it. NATO is militarily weak, and they know it.



Still, the West can stupidly decide to go for kinetic WW3, against Russia. If they do that, the West will be toast in under 1 year, because once NATO is getting involved in Europe, China moves against Taiwan and Japan, while NK will move on SK.


Iran will do their part : block the Strait of Hormuz.



I don't see how the West can win against Russia in Europe and China in the Pacific, while Russia and China stop ALL EXPORTS to the West (this means gas, oil, uranium, food - from Russia ; pretty much everything else from China), while Iran stops the flowing of oil from the Gulf.



If the West doesn't intervene directly, Ukraine will fall, the new Russia-China-India-Iran alliance will get stronger, more countries will join up, the dollar will hit the crapper, Europe is collapsing this winter anyway...so it is a LONG and PAINFUL death for the West.



I do not know what scenario is "best" for humanity, because both will end up with a HUGE NUMBER OF DEATHS, be it during a short (about 1 year)kinetic WW3, or a longer (4-5 years) economic WW3, sparkled with local and powerful clashes across the world.



Putin speech is THE LAST WARNING FOR THE WEST.



I said that I expect, at most, a PARTIAL MOBILIZATION, before SHTF, and this is what happened.


300,000 reservists for Ukraine and the referendums in the 4 oblasts means ONE SINGLE THING : the war, THE REAL WAR, and not a "special military operation" is going to start, and it is going to be VERY SHORT.



The West had been warned : Russia is preparing for war in Ukraine, with a swift result (Ukraine capitulation), and you better stay the FUCK OUT, otherwise is going to be WW3.



Ofc, this is the last stage of the trap, because NATO will HAVE TO INTERVENE, even if their chances are slim to win.



Russia and China PRIMARY TARGET, as I said since Russia invaded, is THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, not Ukraine.


However, Russia is giving the U.S. A NON-DESTRUCTIVE WAY OUT : realize that you LOST the status of superpower, realize that the globalists plans for NWO and a global government are over, and realize that even if your country will be put in it's place, ECONOMICALLY and POLITICALLY, you will STILL HAVE A COUNTRY.



The other option is war on YOUR OWN LAND, and in the end Russia and China will STILL WIN, while the U.S. will suffer DIRECTLY from military strikes, which will be both conventional and nuclear.



So, the ball is in the U.S. court : CHOOSE your next step VERY CAREFULLY, because while you don't give a CRAP about any other country, you might, probably, still give a CRAP about your own country.





GLP