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WW3 Europe front. UPDATE page 532 -February 2024, the decisive month

 
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This WW3 can keeps getting kicked down the road. Entertaining to read, thought provoking, but the scenario keeps morphing to match current events. This thread is turning into teasing doom porn.
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This WW3 can keeps getting kicked down the road. Entertaining to read, thought provoking, but the scenario keeps morphing to match current events. This thread is turning into teasing doom porn.
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If the scenario doesn't considers current events...it is fantasy.


I am not into the business of delivering fantasies.


I have said, multiple times, that current events will either HASTEN or POSTPONE the inevitable.



And the inevitable, as I said, again, multiple times, is total economical and societal collapse, regardless of the means how the globalists will achieve that, be it bio-weapons, vaccines, wars, etc. etc.



Looking at how situation evolved, we are indeed looking at WW3 as the mean to provoke the collapse, or as a result of the collapse.



If you think this is doom porn, well, feel free to see it that way.



I see it as a way to make people aware, before the majority, of what is coming, and prepare as best as they can.
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This WW3 can keeps getting kicked down the road. Entertaining to read, thought provoking, but the scenario keeps morphing to match current events. This thread is turning into teasing doom porn.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84037909



If the scenario doesn't considers current events...it is fantasy.


I am not into the business of delivering fantasies.


I have said, multiple times, that current events will either HASTEN or POSTPONE the inevitable.



And the inevitable, as I said, again, multiple times, is total economical and societal collapse, regardless of the means how the globalists will achieve that, be it bio-weapons, vaccines, wars, etc. etc.



Looking at how situation evolved, we are indeed looking at WW3 as the mean to provoke the collapse, or as a result of the collapse.



If you think this is doom porn, well, feel free to see it that way.



I see it as a way to make people aware, before the majority, of what is coming, and prepare as best as they can.
 Quoting: Recollector


Although I'm very gratefull to recollector insight,I believe this AC is accurate,anyway we must not to be deceptive but amazed how the tptb can have us in the edge from a year to another,cooking us slow and blinding us to not see and just keep hopes in the darker new day
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This WW3 can keeps getting kicked down the road. Entertaining to read, thought provoking, but the scenario keeps morphing to match current events. This thread is turning into teasing doom porn.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84037909



If the scenario doesn't considers current events...it is fantasy.


I am not into the business of delivering fantasies.


I have said, multiple times, that current events will either HASTEN or POSTPONE the inevitable.



And the inevitable, as I said, again, multiple times, is total economical and societal collapse, regardless of the means how the globalists will achieve that, be it bio-weapons, vaccines, wars, etc. etc.



Looking at how situation evolved, we are indeed looking at WW3 as the mean to provoke the collapse, or as a result of the collapse.



If you think this is doom porn, well, feel free to see it that way.



I see it as a way to make people aware, before the majority, of what is coming, and prepare as best as they can.
 Quoting: Recollector


It's not doom porn. It's VERY likely.

But for id10ts who listen to Charlie Ward, The cat alien fucker Simon Parkes, Phil Godlewski or other truther fakes, they don't want to hear this.

They think NESARA/GESARA fairies will forgive their debts, DJT will take back control with the military's help, and all those arrests will actually & finally take place! LOL
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LMAO

Now, right off the top of your head, what's the number one question you have for this guy? Hint, it starts with "Why" LOL
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As long as I don't see that the people execute politicians in this way, I don't believe anything

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Here's a thought. I think there will an intervention from above before everything goes down. I believe a divine intervention will take place, and there will be a Great Reset, but it will be heaven on earth, personal to each person. That is another spin on the Great Reset.
Courage is what it takes to stand up and speak; courage is also what it takes to sit down and listen. ~Winston Churchill

It takes two to speak the truth - one to speak and another to hear (listen).~Thoreau
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Hey, don't give us the impression we're getting another weekly or bi-weekly update.
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Here's a thought. I think there will an intervention from above before everything goes down. I believe a divine intervention will take place, and there will be a Great Reset, but it will be heaven on earth, personal to each person. That is another spin on the Great Reset.
 Quoting: La Listener


That is a trap. Dont be fooled when that actually happens.
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Op it seems that this offensive is quite effective... Do you know why Russians are sleeping?
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Wondering what the death of the Queen will bring upon the world.
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Wondering what the death of the Queen will bring upon the world.
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Op it seems that this offensive is quite effective... Do you know why Russians are sleeping?
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Damn, I posted a long reply, but it didn't got through.


Lady Jane, if or when you are here, can you please try and find it and posted it please?



Thank you.
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Op it seems that this offensive is quite effective... Do you know why Russians are sleeping?
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Damn, I posted a long reply, but it didn't got through.


Lady Jane, if or when you are here, can you please try and find it and posted it please?



Thank you.
 Quoting: Recollector


Here it is. A naughty word.

"The result of the current offensive north of Izium will be known in a week, maybe a bit sooner, maybe a bit later.



I know that almost ALL people are absolutely ignorant when it comes to military operations and wars, and they fail to understand what is going on, and are blinded by propaganda.



If you carefully peruse this thread, you will see that I have made NO COMMENT AT ALL about the Kherson counter-offensive.



Do you find this to be weird? I mean, why I haven't throw even a small comment on the so much waited Ukraine offensive?



The reason is very, very simple : a large counter-offensive, which is the one taking place now, needs A LOT OF TIME to see the results.



In about a week of the counter-offensive in Kherson, the results are pretty damn clear : IT FAILED.


I am not going to make an in-depth analysis of why it failed, but the main reasons are clear :

-Open steppe.
-Russian artillery supremacy (at least 10:1)
-Russian air power local supremacy
-Stupid planned operation, by NATO standards, which REQUIRE air cover and heavy artillery
-Russian mobility and flexibility of BTGs, command and counter-planning
-Lack of enough armor to deeply penetrate and broke the Russian main defense lines, whiNopeherson case were VERY CLOSE to the front lines.



When I comment about Ukraine conflict, I do it on a MACRO SCALE, eventually I comment on STRATEGIC IMPORTANCE battles, but I never comment on tactical and operational LEVEL engagements, because those are fully covered by fog of war, and information, regardless of the side that provides it, even if TRUE...becomes irrelevant the next day or days.



I did commented on other threads about the counter-offensive in Kherson, and I was simply stating that IT IS GOING TO FAIL, which was true.



Now, I am saying exactly the same about the counter-offensive around Izium : IT IS GOING TO FAIL.



I see that many people see this Ukrainian rapid advance north of Izium as some kind of major victory, and all what they do is comparing it with Kherson, without understanding that there are important differences between the two, while in the same time, regardless of HOW MANY TIMES I SAID IT IN THE PAST, the war in Ukraine is NOT ABOUT UKRAINE, it is a RUSSIAN TRAP FOR NATO AND THE WEST.



Talk about not seeing the forest from the trees. "Look, Ukraine took 3 villages!".This is THE TREE.


On the other hand, the current Ukraine desperate attacks are nothing but their LAST STAND, because THEY KNOW, the RUSSIANS KNOW, that WINTER is just around the corner, both economically (Ukraine allies in Europe) and militarily (say bye-bye to forest coverage and small guerilla operations).
There is more, but this is THE FOREST.



Keep focusing on the trees, and you will understand NOTHING.



Do you know HOW MANY UKR soldiers died or where wounded to the point of removing them as combatants since this counter-offensive started?


In Kherson, is around 11,000, of which 3,000 are dead. And the counter-offensive STOPPED, because of the 15,000 troops involved, 70% were killed/wounded.



We don't know how many UKR losses will be around Izium, in the current counter-offensive there, but I can safely say it is going to be MORE then what they lost in Kherson.


Russians retreated, they didn't engaged in close combat (infantry, mechanized infantry or tanks), but they hit Ukrainians HARD with aviation and artillery. Ukraine already suffered serious losses around Izium, while Russians suffered very few.


Ukraine is sending MORE troops in the what they believe to be "liberated" area, because THEY HAVE TO. They advanced fast, there is A TON of locations to be garrisoned and prepare for defense, and they also MUST PUSH FORWARD.



Russia KNOWS THIS, and when they will STOP the UKR advance (have you asked yourself WHY Russia left ALL THE BRIDGES INTACT in the area?), and they WILL, then Ukraine will have A LOT MORE TROOPS in a MASSIVE POCKET of land, on FIXED POSITIONS...and they will be obliterated by artillery and aviation.



This will be the same MO as in Kherson, with a caveat : A MUCH BIGGER GRAVEYARD for Ukraine.



People need to REALIZE and UNDERSTAND that Russia can ESCALATE, while Ukraine CANNOT. And this is why any counter-offensive of Ukraine is DOOMED TO FAIL in the end.



Let's wait and see how things will look in a week from now. In a month from now.


Then MAYBE, MAYBE, you will understand that military operation on the SCALE that they are in Ukraine, are not going to be decided by SMALL, TACTICAL, TEMPORARY VICTORIES."



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Thanks Lady Jane !


I have to be more careful using certain words.


Cheers.
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Thanks Lady Jane !


I have to be more careful using certain words.


Cheers.
 Quoting: Recollector


You are most welcome.
Fate whispers to the warrior

"You cannot withstand the storm"

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"I am the storm"

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Russia is utilizing the classic pincer movement. This simple action will obliterate any future potential, for further provocation. The skirmish is essentially over, and Russia is the clear victor. Nato will respond, or not, that is question to me, that remains to be determined. Hopefully clear minds will prevail, and Nato will sue for peace. Winter is coming in Europe, the populace will be uncomfortable, cold, miserable, IF peace is not negotiated. The political demographics will be vastly different in the spring. This is the best case scenario, in my opinion, as the Globalists will loose traction, power, and destiny will be in the hands of the common man.
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Op it seems that this offensive is quite effective... Do you know why Russians are sleeping?
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Damn, I posted a long reply, but it didn't got through.


Lady Jane, if or when you are here, can you please try and find it and posted it please?



Thank you.
 Quoting: Recollector



In the other thread you posted:

I am very sorry for what is coming for Ukraine very, very soon.
...
Russia's answer will not be only against UKR troops and Ukraine...but also against one or more Western countries.



But also against other countries.

You didn't expand on that point. I'm curious... did you see any hint that Russia is about to make a big move somehow?

Last thing I heard and it was never confirmed was the 100s of aircraft being prepared.... but that seems to have faded out.
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Op it seems that this offensive is quite effective... Do you know why Russians are sleeping?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84154416



Damn, I posted a long reply, but it didn't got through.


Lady Jane, if or when you are here, can you please try and find it and posted it please?



Thank you.
 Quoting: Recollector



In the other thread you posted:

I am very sorry for what is coming for Ukraine very, very soon.
...
Russia's answer will not be only against UKR troops and Ukraine...but also against one or more Western countries.



But also against other countries.

You didn't expand on that point. I'm curious... did you see any hint that Russia is about to make a big move somehow?

Last thing I heard and it was never confirmed was the 100s of aircraft being prepared.... but that seems to have faded out.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84025252




I rarely post long comments on other threads, and this is why I haven't expanded on my argument.


However, since the Russian invasion/war/SMO began in Ukraine, I have stated, in this thread, that this is not about Ukraine, but about Russia (and highly possible China) setting a trap for the West and NATO, to drag them into the conflict.


As of today, Russia managed to put massive pressure on Western military stockpiles of hardware and ammo, as well as killing thousands of mercenaries. Sure, at a cost, but one that Russia can support it, because of the type of conflict they are fully control and develop in Ukraine, which is similar to war, but it isn't.



In Izium area, the UKR counter-offensive (which is actually an offensive, because it's been like 5 months since Russian offense stopped) is 100% a NATO planned operation, and there are thousands, probably up to HALF of the forces involved on Ukraine side, or NATO TROOPS, not active, but retired.



Not fully mercs, but actual NATO reservists, drawn directly from the U.S., U.K. and Polish armies. It's not the type of mercenary we have seen until now, the rag-tag type of men from different countries. They highly trained NATO reservists, in cohesive units, with cohesive C&C, fully led by former NATO officers.




Russia knows that, and they also know that NATO involvement, if it is already at this level, will soon be DIRECT and OFFICIAL.



The only question is who is going to be the first to strike : preemptive Russian strike on supply bases in Poland, NATO intervention when things in Europe will be shit enough to force current government to drop sanctions and break off the Western "unity" (this could happen around December), a local conflict between Poland and Belarus, started by no matter who, since it will end with NATO being at war with Russia, directly, a fuck up in the Gulf, with Iran, or some other event.



I believe (and I have reasons for that) on a Russian sudden preemptive strike, at some point in the future, on an objective that will force a NATO military response, depending exactly on the current Ukrainian development around Izium, where Russia is either setting a massive trap for UKR/NATO troops in the area, that will lead to a MAJOR defeat, or Russia is playing an internal card, for their own population, deliberately LOSING serious ground, blaming direct involvement of NATO in Ukraine, and reacting accordingly.




The situation is pretty damn bad for BOTH SIDES, because whoever wins this battle in Izium area, will force the other side to ESCALATE, and as I said previously, Russia CAN ESCALATE, but Ukraine CANNOT.



HOWEVER, the West CAN ESCALATE, involving NATO.



So, we are facing a very nasty situation which will either see Russia 100% ESCALATE (to massive air bombardments, missiles, etc.), or we will see almost a CERTAIN ESCALATION from NATO.



This current situation cannot end in a stalemate, so both sides are happy with, without escalation, because it already developed past the point of having a new static front line.
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... and most Western countries have leaders that appear hellbound on causing WWIII.
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... and most Western countries have leaders that appear hellbound on causing WWIII.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith



On this note, I am starting to believe that Ukraine offensives REAL GOAL is the West "war-gaming", with real lives, how would a NATO offensive fare against Russia, but with air support and everything, extrapolating from current Ukrainian attacks, and probing Russians response.



It is the ONLY LOGICAL reason, because what Ukraine is doing is both suicidal and useless : they are losing thousands of dead and tens of thousands of wounded, for temporary gains.



I don't know if I am right...but it seems the only logical reason for what Ukraine is doing.

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The events currently taking place in Ukraine are big enough, and if they continue the way I believe they will, after massive Russian retreat in Kharkiv region (that is STILL GOING ON), for me to have an update, either tonight or tomorrow.



I expect Russia to fully withdraw from Kharkov region in the next 24-48 hours, and if this will happen, as I expect to happen, I will post my update, because it seems that SWHTF, big time.
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I wasn't following closely the slow, but until recently, steady progress, because I knew this approach by Putin, of very slow and incremental action, aka. "SMO", let a wide margin open for the "west" (NATO/USA) to stir shit in many different ways.

It seems they found a way to do just that, using kamikaze tactics to inflict considerable pain to the Russians.

The west is NOT acting rationally (the sanctions and economic damage to the EU is proof of that), much less the ukrainians.

And this SMO shit is all about COUNTING on Russia's enemies to behave RATIONALLY, which is becoming clearer by the day that they won't.

It doesn't matter that the KIA ratio is 20:1 or 50:1. Any tactical analysis is pointless. The ukies doesn't need to sustain this indefinitely either. They only need to do this long enough to create a internal political problem for Russia, which they may be very close to achieving.

We will see how bad it really is, but when I see very pro-kremlin sources, that usually always say that Putin is playing 5D chess and all is a plan etc... NOT saying those things THIS TIME, it is an indicative that a epic fuckup may have happened.

If so, either Putin will double down on it's current patch risking its own chair in the process, or there will be a sizeable escalation this time around.

The rumor that there is a huge amount of retired? NATO soldiers mixed with the Ukrainians, if true....
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The events currently taking place in Ukraine are big enough, and if they continue the way I believe they will, after massive Russian retreat in Kharkiv region (that is STILL GOING ON), for me to have an update, either tonight or tomorrow.



I expect Russia to fully withdraw from Kharkov region in the next 24-48 hours, and if this will happen, as I expect to happen, I will post my update, because it seems that SWHTF, big time.
 Quoting: Recollector


Thanks for the war update .
in the other hand, any update about the future of vaccinated ?
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Do the rumors of a possible coup in Moscow carry water?
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Do the rumors of a possible coup in Moscow carry water?
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Nope.


Propaganda.


I am reviewing events from the last 24 hours, it will take me a while, because I am looking for certain specifics.


Then I will post my update.


You will understand why there is no panic at Kremlin, or tension, or a coup, or whatever the media is spewing.
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The events currently taking place in Ukraine are big enough, and if they continue the way I believe they will, after massive Russian retreat in Kharkiv region (that is STILL GOING ON), for me to have an update, either tonight or tomorrow.



I expect Russia to fully withdraw from Kharkov region in the next 24-48 hours, and if this will happen, as I expect to happen, I will post my update, because it seems that SWHTF, big time.
 Quoting: Recollector


Thanks for the war update .
in the other hand, any update about the future of vaccinated ?
 Quoting: TIO JUAN



I will have a separate update about vaxxed, maybe today as well.

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any chance the satellite has been destroyed by russians?





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