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Profoundly agree with the above.
The intention is there. The means to achieve it - NWO - is not. The percentage of human v digital/ machine/ robotic in any sphere you care to name, as of now 2022, is such that the damage to infrastructure/humanity already caused by this pandemic/ war/ reset nonsense must cause the collapse of the whole thing. The establishment of a NWO depends ultimately on the machine. The machine depends on too many human supports as of now to deliver. Disease & war are bringing down all the supply chains as we speak, this will continue unless the evil ones are forced out [ not likely ] and this is true even without taking into account the formidable forces the planet itself can muster, the potential for "acts of god " disasters that all recorded history attests to - and that last is probably the more significant because these evil ones seek to be Gods, but they are NOT Gods, not by a long chalk, and never will be. Ruin and chaos yes. NWO no, not now not soon, not ever.

I watched the video at the time stamp given, but found the link to the website, and attached paper (in the description of the video) to be more useful.

This idea was floated last year and nothing much came of it during the regular cold/flu season last year (except a lot of screeching on the news about the latest variant).

While it could happen, I really thought we would see something take hold before now. Also, I think there would be a more virus strains (outside of Omicron/Covid) that would try to take advantage of the issue with the vacinees.

I have vaxed family members who have been traveling, but haven't seem to have any immune/cancer issues with them. If this does come to pass, I think we would see clusters of affected people due to the batches being different (and manipulated by the vaccine makers). Could the rounds of boosters make a difference? Did enough people get them to make a difference?

I will be watching with everyone else and will keep an open mind, but it's not looking likely at this point. We will see by next September what the lay of the land looks like.

I am concerned too many people are jumping on this like fear porn and not taking it one step at a time.

On possible nuclear strike, Russia says: it's all in our military doctrine

Asked if Russia would rule out a preemptive tactical nuclear strike on Ukraine, Russia's deputy foreign minister said on Tuesday that a decision on the possible use of nuclear weapons was clearly set out in Russia's military doctrine, RIA reported.

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The World Would Be A Better Place If There Is A Population Cap Rules For Nations

It is always about people against people, nations against nations.
The world population are raising but the number of government for the last 80 years are not change (still around 200).

If you see in almost all team sports, you will notice the number of players in each team always equal.

If you look the world geopolitics and global chaos, the problems is always because of “big” nations want to take advantage of others.

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Whoever ran the NWO until mid 90's knew that the plan requires TIME.

The idiots that came after, RUSHED IT.


And it is ultimately why I said that their plans will fail. Because they got greedy, and rushed it.


All they needed to do is continue slowly, for another 2 generations, to replace, SLOWLY, humans with machines, to kill us SLOWLY with diseases, vaccines > sterilization, to DE-educate us SLOWLY (making most of us dumber, except the future techno-elites), to brainwash us SLOWLY.


This is what they needed to do. But they thought : "Hey, looks like we can do it faster!".



And it failed.


NWO globalization plans are OVER. DONE. They went all in and lost.

Can you please share your opinion about a hypothesis launched here on GLP?
"Breaking....Nato is preparing the invasion of Russia in August
Breaking...from multiple sources, Gonzalo lira and other..

Nato is preparing to invade Russia in August, Operation Blackbeard will include 8 million troops and multiple war fronts, Nato will launch a simultaneous attack from Finland, Poland, Moldova,Romania, Georgia, Turkey, and Sweden.

Operation Blackbeard will be launched in August become require fair weather.

Land lease has been allocated, 40 Billion dollars and 400 Billion more in the next 2 Months.."

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The more research I do, the more this pans out

I can't believe people here still hang on every word of these 'updates' after the shit they got wrong over covid? They would write a sweet fiction book with the imagination they have.

No one knows everything. Most people here though know more than most of the population.

We try our best to deconstruct the info and present as best a prognosis we can-to get advanced warning of any impending difficulties we may face.

We understand the severity of what’s coming, it’s serious stuff and I’m sure many don’t post this for fun.

If it wasn’t for this thread I wouldn’t have been able to form my own opinion to its fullest potential.

You’ve made a point though. No one is being forced to read or believe any of this. It really is down to the individual to come to their own conclusion s based on the evidence and how they choose to act on it, or not.

There’s clearly been a heck of a lot of work over years put into this thread. It isn’t a larp. The foundations are based on a desire to know the truth. From all of us here.

Stick to the positives of what this thread and info have achieved. We only become stronger and wiser and time goes by. Not the other way round.

Take it from me. You will read info in this thread, or see dots connected, that most don’t know about. Guaranteed this is the place where you will have advanced warning well ahead of time compared to the masses..

On that note.

Last night I once again delved a bit further into the deal with the nasopharyngeal tests.

We have various points to consider. A starting point is that this has pierced/destroyed the protective membrane in the nose.

That’s not really what I’m getting to though.

Yes it’s clear it has the nano tech. This subject is very relevant. But not what this thread is centered on. So I won’t delve into that too
Much. It’s very important though. But for the purpose of this thread I’ll leave that aside atm.

Quickly saying though. In the Slovakian test. They found invermectin dissolved the crystalline nano structures. I’m aware that invermectin does it’s thing with covid but never knew this.

So we know. In ascending order. The V is the worst thing you can do. The test a close run second. Essentially it’s a V via the nose. Deception is abounds now. Lastly the mask is also an Avenue to get these particles into people. Also for years we know about morgellons.

Point is here. Most of us, likely all, have varying levels of these nanos. They are accumulative btw.

So now I’ll lead onto saying. Do the invermectin. It will help you whatever your situation. We have all been caught out in some shape or form.

Now. My own theory on the role of the test for the grand event. Large percentages of say the 5 year old age group (certainly here) aren’t V’ed. But I know probably a majority received the naso test. Many times over. No one saw the danger. My kids never took it, only a spit test. I saw the danger though.

So here we are likely having a vast majority of the populace, particularly very young kids, already primed. With the V and test, I’ll stick my neck out and say, the test shouldn’t have the multitude of side effects, main purpose being a priming for the final phase with the added introduction of the nanos for the parallel agenda.

So They are also young and in good nick. There shouldn’t be any instant giveaways of the damage, although the links below do say they have been reported anyway.

So the idea is to have as many primed for the final stage and variant. By that time it is as Geert Van den Bossche has explained.

So when people in general see the final stage occurring. Yes it will be in the V’ed predominantly, but to muddy the waters, we will see (traditionally) unV’ed people succumb who took the test quite possibly. This is what will confuse to support the mandatory effort or uptake imo.

So kids will be large in number. Larger in number than took the normal V percentage wise. Also adding again. The Israeli ‘drill’ from their military bunkers too, was prepping for the ‘hypothetical’ “omega” (final) variant, kids were affected they said. A V resistant strain. All these morsels were spread out over various articles. I compiled them all to get the whole picture.

So In summery. Take invermectin. Understand the test is dangerous. Do not be completely disheartened if you took it. There seems to be a solution, but that solution isn’t there for the normal V. There’s always a plan within a plan within a plan. So not only do they not want the masses taking Invermectin for covid. It seems this could also hinder the trans human agenda in a big way.

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keep it in the news which keeps covid out. as covid news gets worse, heat up the war news. as shortages happen, blame someone else,aka stoke the war fire news. i say news cause it is more talk than reality. to scare ppl. they don't want ppl waking up to the facts that govern's screwed things up on so many fronts. economy, JIT supply chains, virus, vax, etc.

since u worded that to mean all of us here, i'll ask "what did we get wrong"?

it blew up in CHINA, we said it would spread. we used the term pandemic before the world did. we said to stock up on PPE and supplies months before world leaders. did nations not order lockdowns and for ppl to use masks? was there not shortages and rationing? we talked of mutations coming. how many waves have various nations seen already? we explained the failures coming with the quick vax. we discusses problems and analyzed data that the virus was causing other ailments. we said ppl didn't recover, aka long covid. while the govern was saying kids weren't affected, we stated they would help spread it. did we not see case #'s spike as schools opened?

here and other threads, we have been ahead of the world leaders at predicting and reporting. as the govern was telling u there was no pandemic and to eat Chinease food, many of us were buying masks, gloves, wipes, bleach,etc.

now i will admit 1 that prediction I made that may b wrong. in JAN 2020, i predicted a billion dead from covid and the effects of covid in 3 years. there is still over 6 months on the clock. best buckle up.

So wait... are you saying all your updates about Russia and WW3 are now over? It's been avoided? Or you just mean the covid-control part and now WW3 is the backup plan?

While we are waiting for DR to come back and answer you, I'll give my 2 cents worth.

I don't think his updates are over - especially for the Ukraine/Russia conflict.

Also, for the covid thing, it probably is still just a back burner. You have the options for a mutations (in the wild) or intentional release so the narrative can be recaptured.

I think all that DR was saying, for now they rushed and they lost it and a lot of people realized what was going on. I think to make it stick the next time the boogey monster (variant) will need to be real with real consequences.

I presented multiple scenarios, on how this will evolve.


AND MONTHS BEFORE Russia sent it's first soldier to Ukraine borders I have said something on the lines of :

"Their plan failed. Not enough people got the vax. I am afraid that they will instead go to war."


Almost every single prediction I have made on the virus was true, until vaccines rolled out, and the propaganda realized the plan fucked up, and publicized numbers that weren't real.


I stopped predictions on the pandemic, because it was no longer feasible to do, and slowly moved to globalization, economy, and ultimately, war.


I have also said that I CANNOT talk about the virus, vaccines and pandemic without addressing the economy and war. Everything is interconnected. Their plan is highly complex, and because IT FAILED, the pandemic, the vaccination, the deaths from the vax, the sterility, all went to drain.


They needed to stagger the doses. They planned for at least 4 more doses after the first 3, and they needed at least 80% of the population to get those 7 doses.


They were SO FAR from this, and the natural immune system proven to be, AS I SAID IT WILL, too strong, even for the vaccines, because they were not enough to suppress our innate immunity.


You think this thread failed because...why? SHTF didn't hit us at the end of 2021?


Guess what, it didn't because they were planned it for 2025, but now, it is going to be much worse, because they lost the plot, and started the war 4 years sooner that they planned for.

I had read about the WHO trying to gain control over national sovereignty but wasn't sure if it was a "thing".

If there is any drive behind the covid narrative, it might be idling until this is a done deal?

Thread: Biden’s Amendments Hand U.S. Sovereignty to the WHO

I am saying that NWO plan is no longer possible.


They rushed it, and now we're looking at WW3 unfolding.


Now I will focus almost exclusively on the war aspect, because the pandemic really fell well under the radar, and their population reduction plan through vaccination failed completely.

I will attempt tomorrow the biggest update ever.


It will be long, like REALLY LONG, and I will probably split it in several "chapters", and will try to post all of them tomorrow.

BEWARE THE bloodMOON!!!!!

Thanks for this excellent thread!

hmm, let me chime in a bit on some of this. many ppl see the NWO as being TPTB's plan. in this thread especially, we need to split them. there are many layers to the pyramid from TPTB down to we the ppl at the bottom. the NWO plan is from a layer or 2 below the top.

DR, can we still call him that :) , stated that the NWO plan is quite new. TPTB ,IMO and i think most ppl's consensus, is much much older, as in 100's to 1,000's of years. now the NWO plan could have been part of TPTB main plan. with technology advancements, the plan has developed farther for TPTB. as in now they can replace the workers moreso than ever before.

the rich and govern. leaders that u see and hear about in MSM are not TPTB. TPTB function on a a level above wealth. hence, not all ppl will agree 100% all the time and actions that u see by those on the news may not reflect the plans of TPTB at the very top who function in secret.

my opinion is still the virus escaped the lab before it was finished being developed. this affects the timeline going forward. it also makes every move forward more delicate cause they do not want to upset the public and lose control over the ppl. they can not kill the ppl off quickly. i think the virus , if finished, was intended to disable and kill slowly over years. as u see the virus causes other diseases that would b put on the death certificates. less questions would b asked that way. the virus can still do that, but TPTB were not ready yet to replace the workers. the infrastructure and robots are still in design stages. lots needs to b built and glitches worked out.

hence, the plan failed in a way but differently. the plan had to b sped up. the virus is a monkey wrench to TPTB plan. the way the ppl are reacting is affecting the NWO plan as well.

at the moment we are seeing HEP cases in children. that is very bad for the leaders. ppl will react and question the controls when their children are sick. what is next? most likely the virus will cross species back and forth. wait til that is pets. the sheep could weke up. things the virus caused such as shortages can only b blamed on Russia for so long. in summer, more ppl will realize how many ppl are missing too.

don't expect things to get better. MSM screams then quiets down. they are slowly leading sheep to a slaughter and carefully. its a tug of war to keep the sheep from revolting. make no mistake TPTB are not considered with those matters, but govern leaders are.

The more I read, study, and contemplate all of the events transpiring I do not think that mortal man could be entirely behind this. There are too many layers and too much mess. It could even an AI component that is making the decisions, and directing the steps. That is why it is so messy at times. The AI is self-learning and learns from its mistakes. Actually, man is no longer in control. The AI is running man. They do not want this out, it would be frightening and more than the average human could take. It is turning against us and removing the humans, step-by-step. AI rules, not Biden, not Putin, not China.

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Please try not to reply to every part of this update, and also, please do not reply until the entire update is posted.

Thank you.


Part I. Introduction.


Humans are wired to deal in absolutes. Humans are also wired to perceive time on a very short span.

An organized group of humans, will deal less in absolutes, even if the individual does. An organized group of humans perceive time on a longer span.

The bigger the group, the bigger the difference in perceiving reality.


Best example I can give is the "nothing will happen" individual / crowd. For them, as long as sky is not falling...nothing happens.


A family is the smallest organized group of individuals. They are forced to deal with reality in a different way then a single individual. A family plans for the future, and even if it still a short time future, it is longer and more feasible then what an individual can do.

Planning to buy a house requires more from a family then an individual. Different risks, more thinking and planning required, more elements to take into consideration.


When a city plans for the future, well, you got the idea. It requires A LOT more then what a village or a family plans to do.


When going further, anyone can and should realize that a country, or a group of countries, and ultimately, the society, works on a VERY DIFFERENT time span and planning complexity.


The NWO is planning for THE SOCIETY. Such a plan can only be highly complex, can only take a massive amount of time and have a high chance of FAILING.



For a plan to work as intended, or at least not to totally fail at some point, and still be viable, multiple events have to work exactly as intended.


Because of the how a common individual perceive reality and how an individual that is part of the elite perceives reality, the society will ALWAYS be "behind the times". That doesn't mean that the elites plan is going to always work, and the best example is the total failed pandemic plan (from releasing the virus, to lock-downs, to vaccination), but make no mistake, the elites still have much better chances to "turn it around" then an individual does, when, for example, he plans to buy a car 3 months from now, but next week he finds out that he have cancer. Obviously, the chances for his plan to buy a car in 3 months to work are close to zero.


But the elites? Well, they have much better chances to create another pandemic in 5 years or 10 or 20. For them, 20 years is nothing, for an individual, 20 years is a quarter of its life.



The reason I am doing this introduction is for anyone to understand that we are facing, as individuals and as society, the most complex situation in history.


One one side, we have TPTB, that wants the type of NWO that requires, in order to work, a society of automatons, be it brainwashed human individuals working like an ant colony, be it a small human "contingent" living in a world where machines and AI do everything, be it a combination of human "ant colonies" inter-webbed by machines and AI components.


Obviously, the easiest way is for TPTB to deal with machines and AI, which are 100% programmable and contained, instead billions of individuals, which, even brainwashed, still posses a risk to fuck it up.

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Part II.The clash of the systems.


Human society changed multiple systems during its existence.


We are now in the transitory period from a multi-polar world to a "NEW" system...which only time will tell what system it will be. TPTB intention is a globalized world, ruled by elites, sitting on a top of multi-trillion corporations, controlling every aspect of life, where countries and nations no longer exist.


It is a radical, and I might add, UNNATURAL system, one that will ultimately fail, but until it does, it will fuck up the world big time. And even if it succeeds, it won't last for long. Now, when I say it won't last for long, I am talking on a societal timeline, where 2-3 generations is by no means a long time, it is actually a very short time. For an individual, 2-3 generations is 50-75 years, so it is too damn long.


Whether TPTB plan will work, or not, world is radically changing, because the "old" system WORKED, and we can build up on the old system to IMPROVE IT. If the natural order of things will, at some point, drive the society to a quasi-utopian future, that is another story. But to force a quasi-totalitarian future, aiming to CHANGE millions of years of evolution, adaptability and survival of human society in a handful of centuries is going TO FAIL.



The world, whether we like it or not, is not balanced, and it will never be. I am talking about nations and countries. There are several countries that cannot be ignored, among them the U.S., which is the ONLY one that supports the globalized NWO system, because the U.S. is the head-nation and the only POWER that is aimed to exist.


Russia, China and India are the other 3 nations that cannot be ignored.Some of you might ask why I don't add more nations, like Japan, or Brazil, or Indonesia, or Turkey. I don't add them because they can be ignored. Their opinion matters, but they are midgets in the big scheme of things (globalized NWO planning).


Russia is the biggest nuclear power on Earth, Russia is the biggest holder of natural resources in the world with over 75 trillion in value, followed by the U.S. with 45 trillion.


China have the largest population on Earth, on par with India. We can't know for sure which one have more, because, well, they are so big, it is impossible to say. China still have a cheap workforce, while India have a much cheaper workforce, and workforce is a RESOURCE. China and India have the biggest ones on Earth.

Both China and India are nuclear powers, and are able to have, if the need arises, tens of millions of troops.


The U.S. is the second largest nuclear power, and by far, the most powerful conventional military in the world.


So, these 4 nations (the U.S., Russia, China and India), for the above reasons and many more others, CANNOT BE IGNORED. They have a SAY, and the ONLY possible way to avoid a worldwide disaster, that is looming, is to have all those 4 powers MATTER EQUALLY. Either by cooperating, either by NOT COMPETING for being the top dog.


The problem is that TPTB wants a SINGLE top-dog, and everyone else to be so much behind, that a contestant should NEVER exists...but the reality is that at this point in time, AT LEAST TWO of the above 4 do NOT WANT a globalized NWO with a single power : Russia and India.


China DOES want it, but they want to be the top dog...so, if we draw the line, we are looking at the U.S. which is planned to be the top-dog, and the only top-dog in a globalized NWO, while the other 3 OPPOSE this, even if for different reasons.


India is scared that they are quite behind the other 3, and things aren't looking good for India long term. They will be the first ones to be swept aside from the very small list of nations that cannot be ignored.


India wants a multipolar world, because it's the only way to matter. China wants to be the top-dog in a unipolar world, but they will accept a multipolar world, at least for several generations. Russia is facing an existential threat, and for them, it's a multipolar world or NO WORLD AT ALL.

Part III. Russian dilemma.


Russia, in it's different forms, is the only empire that survived the test of time.

One might argue that the Anglo-Saxon Empire also survived the test of time, but that is a very wrong and skewed opinion.

Shortly put, the Anglo-Saxon Empire lost most of its influence, from losing Africa, India, Pakistan and Middle East. That is A LOT of land and people. While still retaining North America, with the U.S. and Canada fully under their umbrella, and Mexico highly dependent and influenced, Australia and the U.K., their are in the process of losing Europe as well, even if IT SEEMS that they are tightly control it.


But Russia, except a short period of time (the 1990's), preserved most of its landmass and heavy influence of the former U.S.S.R. countries.


Their dilemma resides in the FACT that Russia CANNOT NOT BE imperialistic by nature. They are NOT expansionist by nature, but they are imperialistic. For them, preserving their great nation and lands, and influencing their neighbors is their DEFINITION of a "great nation".


But the world changed. Russia cannot continue to be imperialistic, UNLESS the world is going to split into EMPIRES (or how politicians like to say, spheres of influence), or the the old system is replaced by one where they will able to be a "great nation", even if their outside the border influence will be diminished.


The other aspect is that Russia sees itself as WHITE, CHRISTIAN and TRADITIONAL, which makes it highly compatible with the West, in general. The problem is that the new systems is aiming at dissolving the notion of nations, borders, sovereignty, traditions, etc.



Given the globalist expansion of NATO, aiming at reinforcing and drastically rise the military power of the U.S., while keeping the other NATO member states militarily INADEQUATE, and every other non-NATO member well under U.S. power, Russia is facing the biggest dilemma in history : accept that the U.S. will be THE ONLY POWER in a world where Russia is irrelevant and highly likely dissolved in an amalgam of ant-like colonies, or oppose this, and face destruction while in turn, destroying the ONLY PEOPLE compatible with them : the Westerners.


Russia is STILL trying to avoid world war, because it will risk the UNSTOPPABLE rise of China, once both Russia and the West are a pile of rubble (radioactive or not).

Part IV. Turkey.


There is a well defined reason why I am giving Turkey an entire part of this update : even if they do not made the 4 nations that cannot be ignored, Turkey is MORE IMPORTANT THEN CHINA in the current situation, and POSSIBLY change the entire future of humanity.


I hope you can see this, and this part is for those that can't understand why Turkey is more important then China.


The Ottoman Empire was one of the strongest in history. They were expansionist by nature, and the least they were aiming, outside full on conquering a nation, was a regime that was 100% obedient to Istanbul.


Turkey is a great nation, and they feel like their place in the world is not the one that they have now. Turkey is in a way, facing also a dilemma, but it is more like they actually face a series of options, that even the worst of them will still preserve their CURRENT PLACE in the world, as long as the world is not going to become what TPRB wants it to become.


Since I mentioned China in comparison with Turkey, I will shortly say that China, as opposed to Turkey, is a CONTAINED in its options. China have Russia in the North, a military power far greater then they are, and also a country that have the biggest resources in the world. In the West, China is facing India, which, even if it is weaker, militarily, there is no way that China, even if wins a possible war against India, it will be greatly weakened. On the East, they have the Pacific Ocean, and on the other side, the U.S., the strongest military in the world.


While China is not an expansionist nation, they do understand, like everyone else, that the stronger you are, the better your chances of survival are. They DO NOT LIKE that they depend on Russia for energy. They do not like that they depend on the U.S. and Europe to sell their shit. They do not like that India is a solid competitor...but they HAVE TO ACCEPT THIS reality, because they can't invade Russia to steal their resources, which it will be suicidal, they can't wage war against either India and the U.S., because they will most likely be over as a nation, or in the best case, an IRRELEVANT nation, and their regime will crumble, leading to multiple countries appearing, all Chinese, but separate, or at least federalized.


Turkey, on the other hand, have options that don't face them with such devastating outcomes.


Turkey can openly defy NATO by refusing to accept new members. What NATO can do, really? Kick them out? Fine, they will INSTA JUMP along Russia. Not kick them out, but change the rules of the treaty? That will put an end to the NATO that is today. Multiple countries will leave it, first one being Turkey, because such a change will be made ONLY to go past their opinion in NATO.


Turkey can also play the neutrality card, EVEN IF article 5 is activated. And once they refuse to participate, they are virtually no longer part of NATO, even if they are still on paper.


Turkey can also SELL their vote, and this is what they will do, but here comes the punch line : if they SELL their vote, they cannot be trusted in the future. But regardless of that, Turkey still makes a heap load of cash, while not risking a Russian response.


The current situation opened up a path for Turkey to revive it's empire, albeit in a different form : a coalition of ISLAMIC NATIONS. While such a coalition can be weak, or short lived (short in societal terms), it can greatly upset the current balance, which is ALREADY fucked up.


But just the simple act of Turkey NOT WILLING to participate in a war against Russia, is going to open a big ass can or worms, one that the globalists clearly want it to stay CLOSE.



So, Turkey have options, options that will greatly DEFINE how and when WW3 starts, and most importantly, how it MIGHT end, without risking too much, unless the war goes to the point where Turkey is openly attacking / being attacked by NATO or Russia.


China doesn't have this options, without risking WAY to much. China can only wait, but not too much, because they will, at some point, choose a path, and betting that they chose the right one for them.


Turkey can play multiple cards. What card they will play? We can only wait and see, but I am going to bet that Turkey is going to AVOID BEING DRAGGED IN THE WAR, for as long as possible, not taking any side.

Part V. The so-called war in Ukraine.


By any moral definition, there is a war going on in Ukraine. People are killed, buildings destroyed, lives changed drastically.


But make no mistake, by definition, there is no war between Russia and Ukraine. If it were, it would have been over long time ago, or we would be in full WW3 by now.


My personal, again, PERSONAL estimates of casualties, is a 1 to 4 ratio, between Russia and Ukraine. I cannot go as far as trying to estimate dead and wounded, but I can say that total casualties are 15,000 for Russia and 60,000 for Ukraine.


Looking at how this conflict is waged, there is a higher death to wounded casualty ratio then a modern war. The conflict is mainly infantry, artillery and armored warfare, with the odd missile and air strikes here and there.


I can estimate that Ukraine dead toll is likely close to 10:1 , with Russia suffering at least 30% of total casualties being dead (4,500), with Ukraine suffering around 40,000 dead out of the total of 60,000 casualties.


If this would have been a war, Ukraine would be tens of Mariupols, hundreds of thousands of dead and millions more maimed. They wouldn't be a country anymore.


In the other thread, before being banned, I was very vocal against a certain poster, because like 90% of his posts were UNVERIFIED and blatant Ukrainian and Western propaganda, which I absolutely understand (the propaganda, that is), but I cannot stay silent when this propaganda clearly led to a FALSE IMAGE of Russia.



Make no mistake, Russia is not the U.S., the same way Ukraine is not Iraq. Russia is strong, but not U.S. level of strong, and Ukraine is far, FAR MORE powerful then Iraq ever was, not even counting full NATO informational and e-war support.


But even in this conditions, with high Russian casualties, we have to understand one simple fact, that everyone knows it, or it should know it : Russia attacked Ukraine with no more then 100,000 troops, after A SINGLE NIGHT of bombing only military targets, facing a 600,000 army, trained by NATO, with tens of thousands of veterans cycled for 8 years in Donbass, highly entrenched in the East (in a hybrid Vietnam/Maginot Line/Verdun style), with full support from NATO.


This is a fact, and looking at a map, Russia, in the above conditions, and showing massive restraint (not destroying cities, except Mariupol, not destroying the infrastructure, and not touching a SINGLE governmental building in Kiev, avoid at all costs civilian casualties), showed, at least to me, that they are HIGHLY motivated, very well trained and capable of winning in conditions that would be impossible for anyone else, INCLUDING THE U.S.


If the U.S. would have had invaded Iraq after one night of bombing...Saddam would still be sitting on his throne in Baghdad. The U.S. would have retreated after suffering first 1,000 dead, which would be probably before reaching Basra.



As I said before this war started, Russia is preparing its troops for WW3, a WW3 that will be similar to WW2, because Russia cannot win a conventional war against NATO, as long as NATO air superiority matters.


To conclude this part, as long as NATO doesn't directly intervene against Russia, Ukraine already lost, and it is doomed to not even exist anymore, if they keep dragging this conflict with the help of U.S. weapons and money.


The longer will TAKE, the more Russia will TAKE of Ukraine.