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even if, those problems X10 in NATO, lol
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OP made an analysis of the war only from a military point of view. An initial question: If Russia is so powerful, why doesn't it take Kiev once and for all and end the war? More than a month of war and what Russia has achieved so far is taking Mariupol, a city approximately 6 times smaller than Kiev, and that with great difficulty.

What I want to point out here is that Russia's problem goes far beyond the military problem. Russia is a very heterogeneous country, there are many climates, ethnicities and cultures that make up the country.

When you think of Russia, you think of Moscow and Saint Petersburg, but Russia is much more than that, in the eastern region there are very different peoples, including Chinese and Mongols, many of these regions and peoples are separatist and only remain Russia because they are subjugated by the dictatorial systems that already existed in the Russian empire and that continued with the Soviet Union and the main dictator that came after, Putin.

Putin is not perfectly in tune with Russia's leadership, many FSB and army leaders are under house arrest or have simply disappeared. Some Russian oligarchs have called for Putin's arrest, much of the people are suffering from high prices and shortages due to sanctions.

In short, Russia's big problem is no longer facing threats of dissolution from outside, but from within. The main threat to Russia's integrity right now is its lack of internal unity, and for me that is what will end this war.

I think that at some point Putin will be arrested, deposed or even assassinated, this will generate a possible civil war for power within Russia, a world war could happen only if Putin, in a reaction of desperation, decide to use nuclear weapons, but I don't think he's crazy enough to do that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77987349



I have said before that a war is not won only by armies. It is much more complex.

But it is not my job to make a war analysis. Of any war. It has been done before, by very smart people, for all wars. And their knowledge can be applied to any current or future wars.


Russia is powerful. The U.S. is powerful. China is. India is. That is irrelevant.


Is Kiev a strategical city in Ukraine? No, it is not. Why would Russia "take" Kiev? To show that they are powerful? They already SHOWN that they are powerful.


Taking Kiev is EASY. Keeping it is NOT. The city is too large. Taking Kiev also doesn't end the war. Why would taking ONE city somehow in your little brain, means that the war ends?


Why do you think Russia invaded Ukraine? If you watch the talking heads on TV, you would think Russia WANTS to conquer Ukraine, in order to rebuild the Russian Empire. If this is what you believe, keep believing it, because if they DO NOT DO THAT, in your mind, Russia LOST the war.


Stupidity can't be cured.


Keep watching TV dude. You do not have the capability to think for yourself.


Russia is fighting against globalist controlled West. If you realize this, you will also understand WHY Russia does or does not do in Ukraine. You will understand why they don't care about taking Kiev. You will understand why they are focused on the Eastern Ukraine, where the foreign mercenaries are. Where the ultranationalists of Ukraine are.


Russia isn't fighting Ukraine. They did in the first 24 hours, and they obliterated Ukraine army.


Now they are fighting NATO mercs and ultranationalists. Next is WW3.



Russia is not going to be bogged down in Ukraine, by "taking" Kiev, Kharkov, Odessa, Dnieprpetrovsk, because they NEED at least 1 million troops to CONTROL the above 4 cities.


It is a waste of time and resources.



But keep believing that Russia is weak and Putin is about to be arrested or killed.



KEEP WATCHING TV.
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No ww3

Ukraine's military can't fight anymore
Nato's reinforcements are being bombed as they enter Ukraine
Too many European countries oppose new sanctions. So I don't think they would ever send their armies to fight russia
USA can't send too much of their forces to Europe as they focus more on the pacific theater
As Ukraine's reserves of men and ammunitions near the end, russia will slowly advance along the black sea coast and take odessa oblast. Then the military conflict will end and a long and boring political game will start (with Russia trying to install a puppet government)
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OP made an analysis of the war only from a military point of view. An initial question: If Russia is so powerful, why doesn't it take Kiev once and for all and end the war? More than a month of war and what Russia has achieved so far is taking Mariupol, a city approximately 6 times smaller than Kiev, and that with great difficulty.

What I want to point out here is that Russia's problem goes far beyond the military problem. Russia is a very heterogeneous country, there are many climates, ethnicities and cultures that make up the country.

When you think of Russia, you think of Moscow and Saint Petersburg, but Russia is much more than that, in the eastern region there are very different peoples, including Chinese and Mongols, many of these regions and peoples are separatist and only remain Russia because they are subjugated by the dictatorial systems that already existed in the Russian empire and that continued with the Soviet Union and the main dictator that came after, Putin.

Putin is not perfectly in tune with Russia's leadership, many FSB and army leaders are under house arrest or have simply disappeared. Some Russian oligarchs have called for Putin's arrest, much of the people are suffering from high prices and shortages due to sanctions.

In short, Russia's big problem is no longer facing threats of dissolution from outside, but from within. The main threat to Russia's integrity right now is its lack of internal unity, and for me that is what will end this war.

I think that at some point Putin will be arrested, deposed or even assassinated, this will generate a possible civil war for power within Russia, a world war could happen only if Putin, in a reaction of desperation, decide to use nuclear weapons, but I don't think he's crazy enough to do that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77987349



I have said before that a war is not won only by armies. It is much more complex.

But it is not my job to make a war analysis. Of any war. It has been done before, by very smart people, for all wars. And their knowledge can be applied to any current or future wars.


Russia is powerful. The U.S. is powerful. China is. India is. That is irrelevant.


Is Kiev a strategical city in Ukraine? No, it is not. Why would Russia "take" Kiev? To show that they are powerful? They already SHOWN that they are powerful.


Taking Kiev is EASY. Keeping it is NOT. The city is too large. Taking Kiev also doesn't end the war. Why would taking ONE city somehow in your little brain, means that the war ends?


Why do you think Russia invaded Ukraine? If you watch the talking heads on TV, you would think Russia WANTS to conquer Ukraine, in order to rebuild the Russian Empire. If this is what you believe, keep believing it, because if they DO NOT DO THAT, in your mind, Russia LOST the war.


Stupidity can't be cured.


Keep watching TV dude. You do not have the capability to think for yourself.


Russia is fighting against globalist controlled West. If you realize this, you will also understand WHY Russia does or does not do in Ukraine. You will understand why they don't care about taking Kiev. You will understand why they are focused on the Eastern Ukraine, where the foreign mercenaries are. Where the ultranationalists of Ukraine are.


Russia isn't fighting Ukraine. They did in the first 24 hours, and they obliterated Ukraine army.


Now they are fighting NATO mercs and ultranationalists. Next is WW3.



Russia is not going to be bogged down in Ukraine, by "taking" Kiev, Kharkov, Odessa, Dnieprpetrovsk, because they NEED at least 1 million troops to CONTROL the above 4 cities.


It is a waste of time and resources.



But keep believing that Russia is weak and Putin is about to be arrested or killed.



KEEP WATCHING TV.
 Quoting: Recollector


Dr I really have to Say I was wrong about you. I have been following this thread since the beginning. I thought you were wrong at a certain point. But things have evolved just like you had said they would.
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OP made an analysis of the war only from a military point of view. An initial question: If Russia is so powerful, why doesn't it take Kiev once and for all and end the war? More than a month of war and what Russia has achieved so far is taking Mariupol, a city approximately 6 times smaller than Kiev, and that with great difficulty.

What I want to point out here is that Russia's problem goes far beyond the military problem. Russia is a very heterogeneous country, there are many climates, ethnicities and cultures that make up the country.

When you think of Russia, you think of Moscow and Saint Petersburg, but Russia is much more than that, in the eastern region there are very different peoples, including Chinese and Mongols, many of these regions and peoples are separatist and only remain Russia because they are subjugated by the dictatorial systems that already existed in the Russian empire and that continued with the Soviet Union and the main dictator that came after, Putin.

Putin is not perfectly in tune with Russia's leadership, many FSB and army leaders are under house arrest or have simply disappeared. Some Russian oligarchs have called for Putin's arrest, much of the people are suffering from high prices and shortages due to sanctions.

In short, Russia's big problem is no longer facing threats of dissolution from outside, but from within. The main threat to Russia's integrity right now is its lack of internal unity, and for me that is what will end this war.

I think that at some point Putin will be arrested, deposed or even assassinated, this will generate a possible civil war for power within Russia, a world war could happen only if Putin, in a reaction of desperation, decide to use nuclear weapons, but I don't think he's crazy enough to do that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77987349



I have said before that a war is not won only by armies. It is much more complex.

But it is not my job to make a war analysis. Of any war. It has been done before, by very smart people, for all wars. And their knowledge can be applied to any current or future wars.


Russia is powerful. The U.S. is powerful. China is. India is. That is irrelevant.


Is Kiev a strategical city in Ukraine? No, it is not. Why would Russia "take" Kiev? To show that they are powerful? They already SHOWN that they are powerful.


Taking Kiev is EASY. Keeping it is NOT. The city is too large. Taking Kiev also doesn't end the war. Why would taking ONE city somehow in your little brain, means that the war ends?


Why do you think Russia invaded Ukraine? If you watch the talking heads on TV, you would think Russia WANTS to conquer Ukraine, in order to rebuild the Russian Empire. If this is what you believe, keep believing it, because if they DO NOT DO THAT, in your mind, Russia LOST the war.


Stupidity can't be cured.


Keep watching TV dude. You do not have the capability to think for yourself.


Russia is fighting against globalist controlled West. If you realize this, you will also understand WHY Russia does or does not do in Ukraine. You will understand why they don't care about taking Kiev. You will understand why they are focused on the Eastern Ukraine, where the foreign mercenaries are. Where the ultranationalists of Ukraine are.


Russia isn't fighting Ukraine. They did in the first 24 hours, and they obliterated Ukraine army.


Now they are fighting NATO mercs and ultranationalists. Next is WW3.



Russia is not going to be bogged down in Ukraine, by "taking" Kiev, Kharkov, Odessa, Dnieprpetrovsk, because they NEED at least 1 million troops to CONTROL the above 4 cities.


It is a waste of time and resources.



But keep believing that Russia is weak and Putin is about to be arrested or killed.



KEEP WATCHING TV.
 Quoting: Recollector


No, I do not believe that Russia is fighting to rebuild the Russian Empire, nor against Western globalism. Russia started a war, or better saying, Putin started a war, for the same reason that Tsar Nicholas II entered the first world war, without any need, just to try to calm internal tensions in Russia, which at that moment reached its greatest territorial extension. It didn't work out, we well know how it ended for the Tsar.

The problem is that very large countries with centralized power end up in inefficiency, and the people react in the worst possible way to state inefficiency, with revolutions and beliefs in savior leaders.

They killed the Russian royal family thinking it was a good thing, they ended up inaugurating the most perverse and murderous dictatorial system in history, putting in power leaders worse than Satan himself, like Stalin.

In 1991, Russia breaks again. With the end of the Soviet Union, a drunk and incompetent leader is elected president (Boris Ieltsin), the Russian oligarchy, realizing that Ieltsin has no capacity to lead the country, puts in power his political ally, Putin, again, Russia under the one-man dictatorship.

Breaking twice internally in less than 100 years shows how weak Russia is, it doesn't needed an external enemy to defeat Russia, it defeats itself with its inefficiency and internal corruption, all derived from the centralization of power.

What we are seeing is not a war in the strict sense of the term, a war has different foundations, what we are seeing is Putin's desperate attempt to maintain the integrity of Russia, but this is in vain, Russia is once again in internal turmoil and war will only make this upheaval more painful for its people.

What will come next, everyone knows: A new savior leader in the image of Putin, was it ever different there?

And just a word about the mighty Putin against the anti-Christian cabal of the West: It was Russia that spread anti-Christian atheism around the world for more than 70 years, just remember that Stalin ordered more than 4,000 churches to be demolished, having demolished the beautiful Cathedral of Christ the Savior to build a public swimming pool on its base! Does Russia now want to become the guardian of the Christianity it helped to destroy? The problem is the west? This can only be a joke.
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I have an answer that is EZ PZE for the United States to follow. Biden needs to stop the kinder garden retorts to Putin, like regime change, and the United States will respond with any aggression. The United States, Biden accented, needs to show more statesmanship and act like a leader. Or, at least not stand-out like the bully that he is being in representing the United States and as a member of NATO. That would take Putin down a few notches.
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I have an answer that is EZ PZE for the United States to follow. Biden needs to stop the kinder garden retorts to Putin, like regime change, and the United States will respond with any aggression. The United States, Biden accented, needs to show more statesmanship and act like a leader. Or, at least not stand-out like the bully that he is being in representing the United States and as a member of NATO. That would take Putin down a few notches.
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That was my post, I was logged out.
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I have an answer that is EZ PZE for the United States to follow. Biden needs to stop the kinder garden retorts to Putin, like regime change, and the United States will respond with any aggression. The United States, Biden accented, needs to show more statesmanship and act like a leader. Or, at least not stand-out like the bully that he is being in representing the United States and as a member of NATO. That would take Putin down a few notches.
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That was my post, I was logged out.
 Quoting: La Listener



It would be ideal if any Western leader would actually be what it was supposed to be : A LEADER OF A NATION.


They aren't.


They are just puppets of what we call globalist cabal. The globalist cabal is after Russia.


Even if assuming I am wrong about this, the current situation evolving rapidly to WW3, cannot be solve just by Biden starting to make some concessions and use a better fitted language when talking about Putin and Russia.


As I said in my updates and comments lately, the only possible scenario where this Ukraine situation can at least POSTPONE WW3, is the one when Russian demands are met entirely :

1.Ukraine neutral

2.Crimea officially recognized as Russian territory.

3.DNR and LPR officially recognized as independent republics.

4.NATO pulls off ALL troops, mil. hardware and installations from Eastern Europe countries.


Russia will respond in kind, and an armistice, at least, can be achieved.


The problem is that this war, and I have to repeat what I have said well before the invasion, IT IS NOT ABOUT UKRAINE.


Ukraine is just FIRST of the battlefields of WW3. It's just the cocktail before dinner and dance.


We should pray that we can at least avoid the dance (nukes), because dinner (WW3) is on the way, and I see no actions that are going to stop it.

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"Conclusion is that in about a month from now, everything will be in place for a war in Europe. Ukraine will fall before May, in the sense that their remaining military will be completely destroyed, the mercenaries will be killed, and NATO will sacrifice Ukraine to defend the Eastern front countries."


This is a paragraph from my update on page 433.


By how the things look in Donbass, I believe that this prediction will become reality.


The losses of UKR army/Azov/mercs are significant after yesterday and today assault of Russian army in Donbass, especially from missiles and artillery strikes.



We are in the most dangerous days now, if the U.S. considers that the fall of Ukraine, so soon, is strategically important enough to justify a massive FF that will start the open hostilities with Russia, and also because the minimum necessary of NATO assets in Eastern Europe is already in position.



Let's hope that at least the Orthodox Easter will be before, and not after WW3 starts.

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Today Medvedev said the Nato build up is becoming a serious threat
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ISIS tells members to use Ukraine crisis to strike West
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ISIS tells members to use Ukraine crisis to strike West

Terrorist group Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL) has called on its members and supporters to wage jihad against Europe and Israel while the West is distracted by the situation in Ukraine, according to an online message posted cited by the Times on Monday.

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Jihadists should strike while those the group considers “crusaders” are fighting each other, IS' new spokesman Omar al-Muhajir said in the message, released to coincide with Islam’s holy month of Ramadan.
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What do you think...when will the Azovstal rats come up from the underground biolab complex now when Putin started to hesitate and stopped the bombings? A week? A month?
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Pepe Escobar wrote that Russia sought to renovate this plant to be a key steel exporter. This is the crux, will NATO allow
Russia to help itself, the local workers, and the world economy. Probably not.
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What every one is forgetting is that Russia invaded Ukraine, a sovereign nation. That's all I need to know to know where I stand.
 Quoting: 3abzzybee


And the U.S. invaded over 20.


So, how about we isolate the U.S. first, to STARVATION, arrest all their living presidents, senators and congressmen and jail them, force the Americans to PAY for all the destruction they did since WW2...and since we're here, how about NUKE TWO U.S. cities in the equivalent of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.



THEN WE CAN DO THE SAME TO RUSSIA AND PUTIN.



Isn't this absolutely JUST and LOGICAL?



I do not support Russia...I AM AFRAID OF WHAT THEY WILL DO, if they are pushed.


Most people are absolute idiots, and the highest percentage (about 95% or more) is in the West. They do not realize what Russia can do, they buy all the SHIT PROPAGANDA, while I KNOW, 100%, what Russia CAN DO and I am 100% sure they WILL DO WHAT THEY CAN DO.



But, sadly, you will all realize, very soon, what Russia can do.



Oh, and if those in the U.S., or Germany, or U.K. or France believe that they are SAFE when WW3 starts, I highly advise them to learn some history about Russian Empire, U.S.S.R. and Russia.



The only country on the entire planet that should NEVER BE PUSHED to the limit is Russia.



People, you do not understand Russia. If they START MOVING, they DO NOT STOP, and even if they lose half of their population, they will STILL NOT STOP and they will destroy everything in their path. They do not do war the way everyone else does. For Russia, is ALWAYS black and white : WIN OR LOSE. And they will never accept LOSING, which makes them fucking dangerous.



No country is going to win in a total war...but Russia is the only one who will NOT LOSE IT.
 Quoting: Recollector




Dear colleague, if I have studied the history of Russia and I know how far they will go, I have also studied the figure of Putin and I know how far he will go and how he acts.

At this moment Putin is warning, it is something that many oligarchs of the past have verified firsthand, he is not a politician like the ones we have in the West, is he corrupt? No, as he once said, why would I want to steal if I eat President I have all the wealth of Russia in my hands?

The truth is that he is not only the president of Russia, he is really his "ZAR", but respecting current Russian laws..

He has not needed to corrupt himself, for he is on the side of those who corrupt.

I would like for my country an old school politician like Putin, but each country has the rulers that correspond to it either by action (vote) or by omission (doing nothing to prevent another country from placing the most "sponge" politicians on us possible, they come corrupt from birth)


By the way, there is a "joke" in the diplomatic world that says "do you know why the USA is the only country in the world that has never had a coup or a color revolution? Well, because the USA does not have an embassy American with diplomats from the “company”

And yes, I am also very scared by the future of events.


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Not sure what was the final point you wanted to make about Putin?
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ISIS tells members to use Ukraine crisis to strike West
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ISIS tells members to use Ukraine crisis to strike West

Terrorist group Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL) has called on its members and supporters to wage jihad against Europe and Israel while the West is distracted by the situation in Ukraine, according to an online message posted cited by the Times on Monday.

Member of notorious jihadi ‘Beatles’ cell convicted in US
Read more Member of notorious jihadi ‘Beatles’ cell convicted in US
Jihadists should strike while those the group considers “crusaders” are fighting each other, IS' new spokesman Omar al-Muhajir said in the message, released to coincide with Islam’s holy month of Ramadan.
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The west is not only distracted... apparently some countries have already sent all the army material to Ukraine they could.

Many NATO member states by now must have significantly depleted arms stores.
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I have said before that a war is not won only by armies. It is much more complex.

But it is not my job to make a war analysis. Of any war. It has been done before, by very smart people, for all wars. And their knowledge can be applied to any current or future wars.


Russia is powerful. The U.S. is powerful. China is. India is. That is irrelevant.


Is Kiev a strategical city in Ukraine? No, it is not. Why would Russia "take" Kiev? To show that they are powerful? They already SHOWN that they are powerful.


Taking Kiev is EASY. Keeping it is NOT. The city is too large. Taking Kiev also doesn't end the war. Why would taking ONE city somehow in your little brain, means that the war ends?


Why do you think Russia invaded Ukraine? If you watch the talking heads on TV, you would think Russia WANTS to conquer Ukraine, in order to rebuild the Russian Empire. If this is what you believe, keep believing it, because if they DO NOT DO THAT, in your mind, Russia LOST the war.


Stupidity can't be cured.


Keep watching TV dude. You do not have the capability to think for yourself.


Russia is fighting against globalist controlled West. If you realize this, you will also understand WHY Russia does or does not do in Ukraine. You will understand why they don't care about taking Kiev. You will understand why they are focused on the Eastern Ukraine, where the foreign mercenaries are. Where the ultranationalists of Ukraine are.


Russia isn't fighting Ukraine. They did in the first 24 hours, and they obliterated Ukraine army.


Now they are fighting NATO mercs and ultranationalists. Next is WW3.



Russia is not going to be bogged down in Ukraine, by "taking" Kiev, Kharkov, Odessa, Dnieprpetrovsk, because they NEED at least 1 million troops to CONTROL the above 4 cities.


It is a waste of time and resources.



But keep believing that Russia is weak and Putin is about to be arrested or killed.



KEEP WATCHING TV.
 Quoting: Recollector


No, I do not believe that Russia is fighting to rebuild the Russian Empire, nor against Western globalism. Russia started a war, or better saying, Putin started a war, for the same reason that Tsar Nicholas II entered the first world war, without any need, just to try to calm internal tensions in Russia, which at that moment reached its greatest territorial extension. It didn't work out, we well know how it ended for the Tsar.

The problem is that very large countries with centralized power end up in inefficiency, and the people react in the worst possible way to state inefficiency, with revolutions and beliefs in savior leaders.

They killed the Russian royal family thinking it was a good thing, they ended up inaugurating the most perverse and murderous dictatorial system in history, putting in power leaders worse than Satan himself, like Stalin.

In 1991, Russia breaks again. With the end of the Soviet Union, a drunk and incompetent leader is elected president (Boris Ieltsin), the Russian oligarchy, realizing that Ieltsin has no capacity to lead the country, puts in power his political ally, Putin, again, Russia under the one-man dictatorship.

Breaking twice internally in less than 100 years shows how weak Russia is, it doesn't needed an external enemy to defeat Russia, it defeats itself with its inefficiency and internal corruption, all derived from the centralization of power.

What we are seeing is not a war in the strict sense of the term, a war has different foundations, what we are seeing is Putin's desperate attempt to maintain the integrity of Russia, but this is in vain, Russia is once again in internal turmoil and war will only make this upheaval more painful for its people.

What will come next, everyone knows: A new savior leader in the image of Putin, was it ever different there?

And just a word about the mighty Putin against the anti-Christian cabal of the West: It was Russia that spread anti-Christian atheism around the world for more than 70 years, just remember that Stalin ordered more than 4,000 churches to be demolished, having demolished the beautiful Cathedral of Christ the Savior to build a public swimming pool on its base! Does Russia now want to become the guardian of the Christianity it helped to destroy? The problem is the west? This can only be a joke.
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That wasn't really "Russia", was it? It was the communist government of the USSR.

Are you assuming Putin is trying to perpetuate the USSR's legacy? Apparently you are.
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Those we cannot name were an affliction to Russia sent to destroy, by their proud master. Russia has suffered, but has maintained the faith, through trial and tribulation.
as we all know, shaking a deadly parasite is fraught with its own peculiae.
Emerging from this darkness, she is met with insult, adding to injury, rather welcomed warmly as the wizened prodigal returneth.
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Re: WW3 Europe front. UPDATE page 532 -February 2024, the decisive month
I think it's over. There will be no more war.

Russia will annex the conquered area in the east of the Ukraine ... and nothing more will happen.

Because the Western World, led by the demented puppet Biden, is completely unable to do anything. There is nobody who can make real war.

Russia is now the new superpower of this planet.
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It still didn't happen.

Either the Russians met with more resistance than they were counting on (which is possible but does not seem gamechanging), or Putin had other plans than just annexing these eastern regions.

It seems possible he does intend to oust the present Ukrainian government, doesn't it?
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new update after the recent news? bump
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No OP for days. Here we go again...
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I posted on 8th, which was 2 days before your post.

I don't know what "here we go again..." means.


When I will have anything important to say, I will. As for now, the fog of war is at maximum, no matter which part of the war (pandemic, economy, Ukraine, bio-labs, sanctions, cyber, etc.), and there isn't much to talk about.


I am not the type of guy who wants to keep a thread alive just for the sake of keeping it alive.



Not posting for days, or weeks in a row actually helps me keep the thread CLEAN, because the people who really want to follow me, will do it regardless if I post 10 times / day or one time every 10 days.
 Quoting: Recollector


Fair enough. No offense but I'm dropping out, too many lurkers and people posting irrelevant shit re: fake surges etc. Extremely irritating IMO
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Too many lurkers?

You are making unreasonable demands on a forum thread.

If you don't want lurkers you should go read a book.
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What happens if Putin gets assassinated?
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My wife has been watching videos from "some Russian guy" who says Russia's plan is not to bring back the Soviet Union but to resurrect Czarist Russia, with Belarus president Lukashenko taking over for Putin.
 Quoting: Hoseman

WTF does that mean, "taking over for Putin"?

How can Lukashenko, who is not only a Belarus citizen but the president of the country, take over for Putin?

Try to make sense at least, even if your ideas are a bit bizarre.
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Re: WW3 Europe front. UPDATE page 532 -February 2024, the decisive month
CORRECTION


VERY IMPORTANT UPDATE :

It’s the AMERICAN BIOWARFARE VIRUS
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putin-thiss
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Re: WW3 Europe front. UPDATE page 532 -February 2024, the decisive month
Hey Bastecat.


When my airport will close civil flights, this means a Russia vs NATO war is in play, because my city airport is the closest to Ukraine NATO can use.

ATM, nothing has changed.

 Quoting: deplorable recollector

An interesting prediction from almost exactly a year ago.
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What are the chances of a war between Ukraine and Russia?


If you had asked me 2 days ago, I would say pretty damn high. As of today, I can say it is a 100% chance that an armed conflict between Ukraine and Russia to take place, and sooner rather then later.


Russia CANNOT, I repeat, CANNOT afford to lose Crimea, and they will do everything to keep it.



To understand why Crimea is so important, please watch this video :






The geopolitical and strategic positioning of Crimea is but the main reason why a war is about to start between Ukraine and Russia.


Yesterday, Turkey basically said they are with Ukraine against Russia. Turkey, obviously, had the U.S. support on this.


Turkey doesn't give a flying fuck who controls Crimea...as long as it's not Russia. If it's the U.S., or better yet, a U.S. puppet-state called Ukraine that controls Crimea, the better.


Ukraine is a poor country, and they will control Crimea only in name, not in reality.


The second reason why the war is inevitable, is NWO desire to destabilize, or control, or even economically destroy Russia.


The 3rd reason is that the NWO wants to destroy any form of private business in Europe and U.S. The pandemic didn't managed to do it (yet), and if it did, it was only partial and not as much as NWO wanted.


A war that involves Russia will easily throw Europe in an economic crisis (just imagine how much oil and methane gas comes from Russia, which won't come once war starts and NATO is getting involved), which will have a great impact on U.S. economy.



The question is not if the war start, the question is, in my opinion, when and where does it end.



Best case scenario is Russia stopping at current border between separatists and Ukraine, basically securing Crimea and Azov Sea, much safer then it does it now. Obviously, the separatist areas in Ukraine, once under Russian military control, will have a referendum, and Russia gains new territories.


I don't see the above scenario happening, because no side involved (UKR, Russia, NATO, Turkey) will accept such an outcome.


The next "best" case scenario is Russia stomping UKR so hard, and moving so fast in occupying almost half of the Ukraine (the entire Donbass, Lugansk, going beyond Dnieper river) on a line that will stretch (and include) the following cities : Kharkov, Dnipro, Kryvyi Rih, Mikolaiv and Odessa.



If Russia manages to do this in a very short time, NATO will most likely not intervene militarily against Russia. Turkey is the wild card here (they will send their mercenaries from Syria, for sure), but I don't think they are that dumb to actually send the Turkish army against Russia.


Such a scenario is not very likely to happen. Russia is a behemoth compared to Ukraine, but will they be able to move to such an extent fast enough to discourage NATO to intervene (at least for a number of years) ?


What is REALLY WORRYING about this imminent war is that higher up in the US and NATO military actually BELIEVE that Russia can be defeated in a conventional war.



Whether they are right or not, if they actually get NATO in a direct war with Russia, with the INTENT of defeating Russia (using UKR, Poland and Turkey ground troops, and missile installations deployed on Romania's Black Sea shores), Russia will use at least tactical nukes against any NATO troops and strategic assets in the region.


If NATO still doesn't back the fuck down after this, the entire Europe will be targeted by Russian nukes.




This war against Russia was planned a long time ago, and it will start in a matter of weeks. Probably 2-3 weeks tops.


If it doesn't end FAST, with a CLEAR and DECISIVE Russian victory, before NATO is able to intervene (and I mean intervene significantly, not just some spy drones that delivers targets to UKR), the war will become regional, involving at least Russia, Belarus, UKR, Poland, Romania and Turkey.


If it drags on, and Turkey needs to defend against Russia, Greece will absolutely seize the opportunity.





Guys, what is taking place now in the region, is not a joke.


One of the targets that Russia considers a priority is the airport in my home town, which is basically a NATO airport (all upgrades in place to serve a high volume of flights, and any type of plane, no matter how big), but officially is a civilian airport.



It is 40 km off Ukraine, and it is the most eastern NATO airport in the region.


If and when they will suspend all civilian traffic, or if I see higher then normal military traffic, I'll make sure you guys get a heads-up, because things will go south really fast, and no matter where in the world you live, it will be the time to stock up, because the economy is going to get fucked, big time.



If my home town airport starts to be used by military, this means that the conflict will become regional, because the positioning doesn't have any strategic importance IF the war will be just in Eastern Ukraine.



Let's hope that this is just posturing in order to gain some leverage for some political gains.



But it doesn't look like it is. It really looks like this is it. Diplomacy failed, most likely because they (whoever they are, doesn't matter) wanted it to fail.
 Quoting: deplorable recollector

Let's bump this info as it is so relevant to the present situation in Ukraine. I did not watch the video myself yet.
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Re: WW3 Europe front. UPDATE page 532 -February 2024, the decisive month
What happens if Putin gets assassinated?
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My wife has been watching videos from "some Russian guy" who says Russia's plan is not to bring back the Soviet Union but to resurrect Czarist Russia, with Belarus president Lukashenko taking over for Putin.
 Quoting: Hoseman

WTF does that mean, "taking over for Putin"?

How can Lukashenko, who is not only a Belarus citizen but the president of the country, take over for Putin?

Try to make sense at least, even if your ideas are a bit bizarre.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79484991


If Putin resigns or is replaced in any way, the danger increases for Europe. Any new Russian leader can be vengeful, will ask for revenge, and will be more determined to conquer Ukraine and re-establish CCCP. Maybe is not a bad idea for Russians, but for Europe will be a disaster, for sure.





GLP