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WW3 Europe front. UPDATE page 532 -February 2024, the decisive month

 
Elevatorguy

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I wonder if the records are able to capture the real impact, in these acute surges the records become less reliable in the short term.
 Quoting: Red Hot Chilean Pepe


You're right.

In Brazil we have two important measures, which is the "number of deaths per day", and the "moving average of the last 7 days".

The moving average today passed the mark of 3000 / day, since the sudden increase happened just 4 days ago.

The sudden increase is due to the exhaustion of the health system, both public and private, everything is collapsed operating above capacity.

Today a document began to circulate, of first line scientists, asking the president to close the entire country in the next 3 weeks. He obviously won't do that, he is stupid.

This week we already had three very hard news:
1- replacement of the defense ministry and generals at the top of the three military forces (supposedly for not accepting the "orders" of the crazy president who wants to end the lockdown by force).

2. School transport vehicles have been allowed to adapt to transport bodies (OMG, this scene is typical of nightmares), due to the high demand and acceptance that they will not be transporting living children again.

3. cemeteries authorized to perform burials 24 hours a day. For now only those who have the structure to operate at night (in Brazil this is taboo).

And on the beaches, the police have to confront imbeciles.

We still hear idiots saying "everything is going to be okay", but no, nothing is going to be okay.
 Quoting: Mr.Borg


Brazil is literally "over the horizon" from the US. It makes sense why the government here has decided to throw out the original schedule and tiers for various groups to be vaccinated. A month or two ago it was high-rises first and the average young adult could expect a dose by June at earliest. Now, seemingly suddenly, EVERYONE 16 years old and above is being pushed to get it NOW. Like, urgently, get it now. P1 is already here in my city and most likely everywhere. They are trying to cut it off at the pass, as it were.
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Brazil is literally "over the horizon" from the US. It makes sense why the government here has decided to throw out the original schedule and tiers for various groups to be vaccinated. A month or two ago it was high-rises first and the average young adult could expect a dose by June at earliest. Now, seemingly suddenly, EVERYONE 16 years old and above is being pushed to get it NOW. Like, urgently, get it now. P1 is already here in my city and most likely everywhere. They are trying to cut it off at the pass, as it were.
 Quoting: Elevatorguy


Brazil is an example of everything that can go wrong in a pandemic
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I will have 2 updates, one today, one tomorrow.


The today's ones will come shortly, and it will paint a sobering picture on the pandemic and vaccines.
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Thanks in advance DR
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From the start of this thread, I said that if the world will FULLY CLOSE in February-April, this pandemic will be over.


That did not happen, so I could not prove that it would have worked.


What did happen, and I do not know if this a coincidence, or not, is for me to live in the county that most likely had the HARDEST LOCK-DOWN on the PLANET.



When the virus hit my city and my county, it hit really hard. Virtually 1/3rd of the cases and deaths in Romania were in my county.

The government got really scared, especially after the entire mass media in the country painted a much worse picture of what was really going on.



Short story long, the government decided to quarantine the entire county, and within the county, a harder quarantine for county capital and metro area.


To understand what a REAL quarantine is, for 6 straight weeks, starting in mid-March 2020, my county was completely cut-off from the world.

The airport was closed off. All rail stations were cut-off. Every single business was closed. The ONLY things that were open, and that only during the day, were pharmacies, gas stations and food stores, with limited working hours.


The public institutions were working with a skeleton crew, and only for a few hours in the morning.

Schools, colleges, university, all closed.


ALL TRAVEL between towns within the county was fully banned. ALL TRAVEL between the capital city and metro area was fully banned. ALL TRAVEL between Ukraine and my county (which borders it) was closed, long before Romania closed the rest of the borders.

The capital city quarantine was even harsher. The local transport was suspended entirely. Same with taxis. People could go to buy their food and medicine only during the day, usually between 8 am and 6 pm. There was no way to "chill" outside with a bag in your hand, under the guise of "I am going to buy groceries, and I stopped for a smoke".

There was police and military patrolling every area. They would quickly make everyone NOT WALKING, to start walking, and either go home, or go to a food shop or pharmacy.

Traveling by car was not banned per se, but you had to had a declaration, with your route and traveling times.


Outside emergencies (like going to a hospital because you're almost dead), travel between 10 pm and 6 am was absolutely banned.


The media painted my county as a place where covid was rampart, and you could get it even if you make one step across county borders, and my county was AVOIDED for months after the quarantine was lifted.




The main idea is that what happened in my county was pretty much spot on on what it was supposed to happen EVERYWHERE, if the goal was to stop the pandemic.


Clearly the goal was NOT to stop the pandemic, but that is another story.


One year have passed since.



My county, NOW, after a year have passed, not only have the LOWEST infection rate in Romania, but FOUR TIMES lower then the entire country.


To understand why the example of my county is relevant, and not just a local, weird accident, some things have to be mentioned.


My city is by far the best developed commercial city in Romania (not by volume, that is Bucharest, ofc), with a density of commercial spaces per capita TWICE as bigger then any other city in Romania, including Bucharest.


Over 300,000 people (twice the size of my city) used my city, every day, for shopping, traveling, transit, etc. All of them from outside the city, many from Ukraine and Moldavia.


It's not like it was an isolated city, and the quarantine didn't matter that much.


Nope, it was a heavily used city, for commercial reasons mainly, with an influx of people, every day, twice the size of the city.



When the pandemic hit us, the ENTIRE media in Romania was here, reporting the situation...because it FITTED THE SCARE NARRATIVE.


Now, after a year, when my city is BOOMING economically (as much as it can boom, considering the economy), have the lowest infection rate, 4 times lower then the country, the media is COMPLETELY ABSENT.


Not even a PEEP of what is happening in the city and the county that one year ago was the Lombardia of Romania.




And the reason for this media absence is NOT only that the quarantine worked, and proved that IF taken early, and implemented PROPERLY, and LASTS as long as a QUARANTINE (quaranta = 40) should last...it is MOST LIKELY because my county also have, BY FAR, the LOWEST vaccination rate in Romania.




So, for 6 weeks, my county was in a PROPER quarantine, and one year later we have the lowest infection rate AND the lowest vaccination rate...and there is NO PEEP in mass-media about this.


Makes you wonder, isn't it?



This pandemic was planned, the vaccination was planned, the destruction of the economy was planned, the loss of liberty...and the next step in the plan is war with Russia.


But that is for tomorrow's update.

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If you like numbers, the infection rate in my county is 0.98 per 1,000 people for 14 days, and the vaccination rate is 0.69%.

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Thread: Alberto Fernández (Argentina President) tested positive for Coronavirus after 2 months of being vaccinated with Sputnik V.
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Thanks for the update DR. I am looking forward on reading your update tomorrow. The one you posted today is very interesting if compared with what is happening in the rest of europe. In italy they are starting to lower some restrictions, even though hospitals are still full. But that's because of how much they are worried about the economy.
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good to hear from u DR. i have a theory on why the rest of the world did not hit the extremes of CHINA. the virus mutated down to b less dangerous as it spread out from CHINA across the EU and was a lower-grade version by the time it made its to the US.

if it had not mutated, the entire world would be looking like CHINA or BRAZIL. thing is the virus can and is mutating upwards in some areas. as those variants spread,our cases and deaths will spike.

here is a link to where i posted the explanation or theory

Thread: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315 (Page 12808)

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JAZZZ50

2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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A hot war with Russia is the end of life on earth. No room for interpretation on that.
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The virus has mutated into a more contagious and more deadly variant, Brazil is the most vivid proof of this and countries like Italy, which already experienced its peak last year, are returning to have a large number of deaths, this proves the thesis of Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche, the immune escape ( [link to www.dodychiro.com (secure)]
This second wave is being more deadly, and the third will be even more.
War with Russia is possible, they are cornering Russia with sanctions, this is not going to end well. In a matter of a few months the world will be in chaos, in Brazil, in a matter of weeks.
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Are we expecting a DR update today?
Herd immunity and vaccine free is the only way……

Peace not War.
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yes
JAZZZ50

2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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But when...
Herd immunity and vaccine free is the only way……

Peace not War.
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bump for morning
Working on it
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If you like numbers, the infection rate in my county is 0.98 per 1,000 people for 14 days, and the vaccination rate is 0.69%.
 Quoting: deplorable recollector


DR-
Given your latest update, do you expect that while your county currently has a low infection rate, that it will rise again now that quarantines have been relaxed and activities increase?

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bump

For DR's next report.
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What happened DR?
Herd immunity and vaccine free is the only way……

Peace not War.
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Brazil, a person dies every 3 seconds because of the covid19. two more will have died while you read this.
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Brazil, a person dies every 3 seconds because of the covid19. two more will have died while you read this.
 Quoting: Mr.Borg


Can a person sift through the info and see if there is any area that should be hit hard but is holding it's own and keeping the numbers down? Get hold of the night shift crew (they usually talk) at their local clinic and see what they are doing right to keep on top of the situation?

That info is gold. It's a long shot but a life saver if such a place exists.
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Brazil, a person dies every 3 seconds because of the covid19. two more will have died while you read this.
 Quoting: Mr.Borg


Can a person sift through the info and see if there is any area that should be hit hard but is holding it's own and keeping the numbers down? Get hold of the night shift crew (they usually talk) at their local clinic and see what they are doing right to keep on top of the situation?

That info is gold. It's a long shot but a life saver if such a place exists.
 Quoting: misty eyed


As far as I know, and as far as I can tell, all regions react the same when under the same conditions. What changes is the condition, since here the lockdowns are applied at the municipal and state level, with contrary pressure from the federal government, which is negationist.

Lockdowns are often faced in court by class entities, such as churches and trade unions, even by individual schools, so conditions vary widely at all times, making it impossible to analyze the scenario more objectively.

Two things are very clear here, the first is that lockdown works, any type of lockdown works creating a better scenario, the second is that, there is no cure, no strategy has produced any cure, all cases of remission are spontaneous, purely nature lottery .

The regions that adopt aggressive lockdown always show a reduction in numbers, but the result only appears after three or more weeks, when the population can't take it anymore, and everything starts over.

Mutations no longer differentiate between age or background illnesses, it became a lottery, anyone can fall.

Today in the press a case was highlighted, of an elderly man who was forced to give up the ICU to a young man. The old man died, obviously. I don't want to judge anyone, because only those on the front of the war can decide such a thing, but it is a symptom that the system has collapsed at a deeper level than the previous one.

In time, it is 1 person every 3 minutes, not every 3 seconds as I stated before. My emotional was over, I can no longer process information on a purely intellectual level.

Also, in time, denialism is worse than ever. Here, there are also those who say that masking is communism, or that it is a symbol of the political left, or that it is a sign of submission to capitalism, or that it makes you a "chinese ant", or that if the rapture happens and you are wearing a mask then "god" won't be able to find you, because 1/3 of your face is covered by a mask, I think, maybe, since I don't understand the minds of these idiotic people. OMG, how can people be so dumb?
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Brazil, a person dies every 3 seconds because of the covid19. two more will have died while you read this.
 Quoting: Mr.Borg


Can a person sift through the info and see if there is any area that should be hit hard but is holding it's own and keeping the numbers down? Get hold of the night shift crew (they usually talk) at their local clinic and see what they are doing right to keep on top of the situation?

That info is gold. It's a long shot but a life saver if such a place exists.
 Quoting: misty eyed


As far as I know, and as far as I can tell, all regions react the same when under the same conditions. What changes is the condition, since here the lockdowns are applied at the municipal and state level, with contrary pressure from the federal government, which is negationist.

Lockdowns are often faced in court by class entities, such as churches and trade unions, even by individual schools, so conditions vary widely at all times, making it impossible to analyze the scenario more objectively.

Two things are very clear here, the first is that lockdown works, any type of lockdown works creating a better scenario, the second is that, there is no cure, no strategy has produced any cure, all cases of remission are spontaneous, purely nature lottery .

The regions that adopt aggressive lockdown always show a reduction in numbers, but the result only appears after three or more weeks, when the population can't take it anymore, and everything starts over.

Mutations no longer differentiate between age or background illnesses, it became a lottery, anyone can fall.

Today in the press a case was highlighted, of an elderly man who was forced to give up the ICU to a young man. The old man died, obviously. I don't want to judge anyone, because only those on the front of the war can decide such a thing, but it is a symptom that the system has collapsed at a deeper level than the previous one.

In time, it is 1 person every 3 minutes, not every 3 seconds as I stated before. My emotional was over, I can no longer process information on a purely intellectual level.

Also, in time, denialism is worse than ever. Here, there are also those who say that masking is communism, or that it is a symbol of the political left, or that it is a sign of submission to capitalism, or that it makes you a "chinese ant", or that if the rapture happens and you are wearing a mask then "god" won't be able to find you, because 1/3 of your face is covered by a mask, I think, maybe, since I don't understand the minds of these idiotic people. OMG, how can people be so dumb?
 Quoting: Mr.Borg


Barry's book of the 1918 Spanish flu, he tells the story of families and/or communities gathering together for protective isolation/lockdown. If anyone broke camp and returned, they were greeted with a shotgun and escorted back to the road.

So it sounds like groups of people are wrestling/struggling with changing their public behavior. They go to the courts to bargain/argue/debate their case. (Why are the courts even open?)

Due process. Individual people need a format to be heard, or they take to the streets. Again, the virus wins.

The real question is the right of the individual versus the collective group of people. History always shows us that the individual loses, for the the greater good of the whole.

I'm afraid the virus is going to ultimately win in court, one way or another.

Secure your area, an individual can only do so much. Circle your wagons and hang on. Prepare for the Golden Horde (the masses of people who believe that they are entitled to something).

If there are cases of remission, then there is a cause. We just don't know what that is, yet.

Keep us up on how it's going, boots on the ground is the best info.
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My dad got a little sick on Saturday, and Sunday he got worse.

He was in really bad shape from Sunday to yesterday, to the point of my family insisting he should be admitted to hospital.


Symptoms were covid-19 like, with a nasty, violent cough. My aunt (who have Down Syndrom) also developed same symptoms.


I had to stood my ground and fight so my dad stays home, because I believed that he have a severe cold or the common flu (and since he is 72 yo, the symptoms were really bad).


Was pretty busy these days, everyone was "it's covid, get him to the hospital"...and I didn't have the time, nor the will to post my update on Russia / Ukraine, which is connected to the pandemic.


Long story short, my dad is still at home, I got him tested at home, and he is negative for covid. Got him under heavy Vit. D and Vit. C, Zinc and Selenium, antibiotics (he basically needs them very often, due to another condition), and he improved today, quite good.


He is not out of the woods yet (he is old, previous illnesses - gastric ulcer among them, and poor blood circulation). He doesn't have the virus, but he is still affected by a severe cold or flu, I will see later, after he improves, and he is good enough to have him seen by specialists.



Anyway, the war with Russia is inevitable, and it will start really soon.



I hope I can deliver the update about this (and the reasons why I believe the war is inevitable) later in the week.
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My dad got a little sick on Saturday, and Sunday he got worse.

He was in really bad shape from Sunday to yesterday, to the point of my family insisting he should be admitted to hospital.


Symptoms were covid-19 like, with a nasty, violent cough, fever and general weakness. My aunt (who have Down Syndrom) also developed same symptoms.


I had to stood my ground and fight so my dad stays home, because I believed that he have a severe cold or the common flu (and since he is 72 yo, the symptoms were really bad).


Was pretty busy these days, everyone was "it's covid, get him to the hospital"...and I didn't have the time, nor the will to post my update on Russia / Ukraine, which is connected to the pandemic.


Long story short, my dad is still at home, I got him tested at home, and he is negative for covid. Got him under heavy Vit. D and Vit. C, Zinc and Selenium, antibiotics (he basically needs them very often, due to another condition), since Sunday, and he improved today, quite good.


He is not out of the woods yet (he is old, previous illnesses - gastric ulcer among them, and poor blood circulation). He doesn't have the virus, but he is still affected by a severe cold or flu, I will see later, after he improves, and he is good enough to have him seen by specialists.



Anyway, the war with Russia is inevitable, and it will start really soon.



I hope I can deliver the update about this (and the reasons why I believe the war is inevitable) later in the week.

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Hope your dad gets better dr.
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Thanks for sharing your situation with us DR, don’t worry about the update, focus your energy in your dad’s situation, we can wait all what is necessary.
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Thanks for sharing your situation with us DR, don’t worry about the update, focus your energy in your dad’s situation, we can wait all what is necessary.
 Quoting: Red Hot Chilean Pepe


Yes indeed - loved ones come first.

DR - we will still be here when you can get back. Our prayers are with you.





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