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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 11376882 United States 01/26/2020 12:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The story is from TaiwanDaily.net and says this (translated): Hong Kong and Chinese researchers published the latest research on “New Coronavirus 2019” (referred to as “Wuhan pneumonia”) in the medical journal “Lancet” on the 24th. Chinese experts pointed directly to the disease. The [fatality] rate is fifteen percent. Hong Kong experts confirmed for the first time that Wuhan pneumonia can be transmitted from person to person, and patients may not have surface symptoms. Taking a Shenzhen seven-person home with six people as an example, the analysis shows that the attack rate is as high as 83% and the incubation period is three to six days It is expected that a large number of cases will break out in China within a week, and the next two weeks will be a crucial period to prevent any place from becoming “another Wuhan”. The same article also reveals the recorded rate of symptoms among those who are infected: Overall, 98% of the symptoms were fever, 76% coughing, 44% muscle pain or feeling tired. With 98% showing fever, this means that one out of 50 people infected will show no fever and therefore easily bypass current screening methods that are practiced by health officials. If one in 50 infected people is able to get through screening that’s primarily looking for fever and respiratory symptoms, it means this outbreak is highly unlikely to be contained. The article from Taiwan also describes the slow progression of symptoms, in some cases taking as long as eight days to appear: As a result, one person had fever and diarrhea in Wuhan one day; many relatives they visited also began to have fever and cough on the fourth day; another did not go to Wuhan, but lived with four family members who were subsequently diagnosed, and the eighth day also began Found physical discomfort and confirmed the illness. The Lancet publishes the study: More details As we were working on this story, The Lancet study appeared, providing more details and a direct link to the research article. You can find it here: [link to www.thelancet.com (secure)] The findings: By Jan 2, 2020, 41 admitted hospital patients had been identified as having laboratory-confirmed 2019-nCoV infection. Most of the infected patients were men (30 [73%] of 41); less than half had underlying diseases (13 [32%]), including diabetes (eight [20%]), hypertension (six [15%]), and cardiovascular disease (six [15%]). Median age was 49·0 years (IQR 41·0–58·0). 27 (66%) of 41 patients had been exposed to Huanan seafood market. One family cluster was found. Common symptoms at onset of illness were fever (40 [98%] of 41 patients), cough (31 [76%]), and myalgia or fatigue (18 [44%]); less common symptoms were sputum production (11 [28%] of 39), headache (three [8%] of 38), haemoptysis (two [5%] of 39), and diarrhoea (one [3%] of 38). Dyspnoea developed in 22 (55%) of 40 patients (median time from illness onset to dyspnoea 8·0 days [IQR 5·0–13·0]). 26 (63%) of 41 patients had lymphopenia. All 41 patients had pneumonia with abnormal findings on chest CT. Complications included acute respiratory distress syndrome (12 [29%]), RNAaemia (six [15%]), acute cardiac injury (five [12%]) and secondary infection (four [10%]). 13 (32%) patients were admitted to an ICU and six (15%) died. Compared with non-ICU patients, ICU patients had higher plasma levels of IL2, IL7, IL10, GSCF, IP10, MCP1, MIP1A, and TNF?. Interpretation: The 2019-nCoV infection caused clusters of severe respiratory illness similar to severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus and was associated with ICU admission and high mortality. Major gaps in our knowledge of the origin, epidemiology, duration of human transmission, and clinical spectrum of disease need fulfilment by future studies. Note the language saying there are “major gaps in our knowledge” about the “duration of human transmission.” Also note the more detailed list of symptoms offered by The Lancet: Fever: 98% Cough: 76% Fatigue: 44% Sputum production: 28% Headache: 8% Haemoptysis: 5% Diarrhea: 3% Also note it took eight days to develop dyspnoea, or difficulty breathing. Also notice that 12% suffered “acute cardiac injury” which means permanent damage to the heart. Sadly, through policies such as open borders, filthy liberal cities and biosludge “recycling” of human sewage onto food farms, humanity has created the “perfect storm” for a pandemic wipeout that cannot be stopped: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78277784 United States 01/26/2020 12:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So we have a Texas A&M student that came back from wuhan, not feeling well, hob nobbed around College Station, Texas and went to class for four days and decided on the 5th day he was sick and turned himself in to Baylor Scott and White hospital. right, so he could have spread it all over that area. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 11376882 United States 01/26/2020 12:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So we have a Texas A&M student that came back from wuhan, not feeling well, hob nobbed around College Station, Texas and went to class for four days and decided on the 5th day he was sick and turned himself in to Baylor Scott and White hospital. right, so he could have spread it all over that area. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78277784 wwwwWHAT..!? How nice of them...sheesh. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78277784 United States 01/26/2020 12:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So we have a Texas A&M student that came back from wuhan, not feeling well, hob nobbed around College Station, Texas and went to class for four days and decided on the 5th day he was sick and turned himself in to Baylor Scott and White hospital. right, so he could have spread it all over that area. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78277784 [link to www.fox4news.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 11376882 United States 01/26/2020 12:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So we have a Texas A&M student that came back from wuhan, not feeling well, hob nobbed around College Station, Texas and went to class for four days and decided on the 5th day he was sick and turned himself in to Baylor Scott and White hospital. right, so he could have spread it all over that area. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78277784 [link to www.fox4news.com (secure)] Thanks for the post. I bet there's a CDC jet on it's way there right now, if it hasn't already landed. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77047423 United States 01/26/2020 12:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So we have a Texas A&M student that came back from wuhan, not feeling well, hob nobbed around College Station, Texas and went to class for four days and decided on the 5th day he was sick and turned himself in to Baylor Scott and White hospital. right, so he could have spread it all over that area. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78277784 In Michigan the 3 people suspected with the virus are at home,self isolation until results come back from the CDC, it will take days. While anyone they came in contact with are being watched but not confined at all it seems. So if these people die I see panic could quickly set in. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 11376882 United States 01/26/2020 12:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.thegatewaypundit.com (secure)] Experts are now warning of the possibility of an epidemic. One doctor on Twitter discussed the danger of the Wuhan coronavirus |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 11376882 United States 01/26/2020 12:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So we have a Texas A&M student that came back from wuhan, not feeling well, hob nobbed around College Station, Texas and went to class for four days and decided on the 5th day he was sick and turned himself in to Baylor Scott and White hospital. right, so he could have spread it all over that area. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78277784 In Michigan the 3 people suspected with the virus are at home,self isolation until results come back from the CDC, it will take days. While anyone they came in contact with are being watched but not confined at all it seems. So if these people die I see panic could quickly set in. In the Lancet Report I did not see the best form of treatment. Usually they say something about it. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77741888 United States 01/26/2020 03:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Microsoft tycoon warned the world was at risk from super-pathogens spreading quickly across our planet — and that we should prepare for this as we would for war. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78390810 [link to www.thesun.co.uk (secure)] [link to godlike.com (secure)] [link to www.the-scientist.com (secure)] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78384456 Lab-Made Coronavirus Triggers Debate The creation of a chimeric SARS-like virus has scientists discussing the risks of gain-of-function research. Nov 16, 2015 JEF AKST MERS coronavirus FLICKR, NIAID Ralph Baric, an infectious-disease researcher at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, last week (November 9) published a study on his team’s efforts to engineer a virus with the surface protein of the SHC014 coronavirus, found in horseshoe bats in China, and the backbone of to one that causes human-like severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) in mice. The hybrid virus could infect human airway cells and caused disease in mice, according to the team’s results, which were published in Nature Medicine. The results demonstrate the ability of the SHC014 surface protein to bind and infect human cells, validating concerns that this virus—or other coronaviruses found in bat species—may be capable of making the leap to people without first evolving in an intermediate host, Nature reported. They also reignite a debate about whether that information justifies the risk of such work, known as gain-of-function research. “If the [new] virus escaped, nobody could predict the trajectory,” Simon Wain-Hobson, a virologist at the Pasteur Institute in Paris, told Nature. In October 2013, the US government put a stop to all federal funding for gain-of-function studies, with particular concern rising about influenza, SARS, and Middle East respiratory syndrome (MERS). “NIH [National Institutes of Health] has funded such studies because they help define the fundamental nature of human-pathogen interactions, enable the assessment of the pandemic potential of emerging infectious agents, and inform public health and preparedness efforts,” NIH Director Francis Collins said in a statement at the time. “These studies, however, also entail biosafety and biosecurity risks, which need to be understood better.” Baric’s study on the SHC014-chimeric coronavirus began before the moratorium was announced, and the NIH allowed it to proceed during a review process, which eventually led to the conclusion that the work did not fall under the new restrictions, Baric told Nature. But some researchers, like Wain-Hobson, disagree with that decision. The debate comes down to how informative the results are. “The only impact of this work is the creation, in a lab, of a new, non-natural risk,” Richard Ebright, a molecular biologist and biodefence expert at Rutgers University, told Nature. But Baric and others argued the study’s importance. “[The results] move this virus from a candidate emerging pathogen to a clear and present danger,” Peter Daszak, president of the EcoHealth Alliance, which samples viruses from animals and people in emerging-diseases hotspots across the globe, told Nature. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77268390 United States 01/26/2020 04:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The story is from TaiwanDaily.net and says this (translated): Quoting: WEDGE PLISSKEN Hong Kong and Chinese researchers published the latest research on “New Coronavirus 2019” (referred to as “Wuhan pneumonia”) in the medical journal “Lancet” on the 24th. Chinese experts pointed directly to the disease. The [fatality] rate is fifteen percent. Hong Kong experts confirmed for the first time that Wuhan pneumonia can be transmitted from person to person, and patients may not have surface symptoms. Taking a Shenzhen seven-person home with six people as an example, the analysis shows that the attack rate is as high as 83% and the incubation period is three to six days It is expected that a large number of cases will break out in China within a week, and the next two weeks will be a crucial period to prevent any place from becoming “another Wuhan”. The same article also reveals the recorded rate of symptoms among those who are infected: Overall, 98% of the symptoms were fever, 76% coughing, 44% muscle pain or feeling tired. With 98% showing fever, this means that one out of 50 people infected will show no fever and therefore easily bypass current screening methods that are practiced by health officials. If one in 50 infected people is able to get through screening that’s primarily looking for fever and respiratory symptoms, it means this outbreak is highly unlikely to be contained. The article from Taiwan also describes the slow progression of symptoms, in some cases taking as long as eight days to appear: As a result, one person had fever and diarrhea in Wuhan one day; many relatives they visited also began to have fever and cough on the fourth day; another did not go to Wuhan, but lived with four family members who were subsequently diagnosed, and the eighth day also began Found physical discomfort and confirmed the illness. The Lancet publishes the study: More details As we were working on this story, The Lancet study appeared, providing more details and a direct link to the research article. You can find it here: [link to www.thelancet.com (secure)] The findings: By Jan 2, 2020, 41 admitted hospital patients had been identified as having laboratory-confirmed 2019-nCoV infection. Most of the infected patients were men (30 [73%] of 41); less than half had underlying diseases (13 [32%]), including diabetes (eight [20%]), hypertension (six [15%]), and cardiovascular disease (six [15%]). Median age was 49·0 years (IQR 41·0–58·0). 27 (66%) of 41 patients had been exposed to Huanan seafood market. One family cluster was found. Common symptoms at onset of illness were fever (40 [98%] of 41 patients), cough (31 [76%]), and myalgia or fatigue (18 [44%]); less common symptoms were sputum production (11 [28%] of 39), headache (three [8%] of 38), haemoptysis (two [5%] of 39), and diarrhoea (one [3%] of 38). Dyspnoea developed in 22 (55%) of 40 patients (median time from illness onset to dyspnoea 8·0 days [IQR 5·0–13·0]). 26 (63%) of 41 patients had lymphopenia. All 41 patients had pneumonia with abnormal findings on chest CT. Complications included acute respiratory distress syndrome (12 [29%]), RNAaemia (six [15%]), acute cardiac injury (five [12%]) and secondary infection (four [10%]). 13 (32%) patients were admitted to an ICU and six (15%) died. Compared with non-ICU patients, ICU patients had higher plasma levels of IL2, IL7, IL10, GSCF, IP10, MCP1, MIP1A, and TNF?. Interpretation: The 2019-nCoV infection caused clusters of severe respiratory illness similar to severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus and was associated with ICU admission and high mortality. Major gaps in our knowledge of the origin, epidemiology, duration of human transmission, and clinical spectrum of disease need fulfilment by future studies. Note the language saying there are “major gaps in our knowledge” about the “duration of human transmission.” Also note the more detailed list of symptoms offered by The Lancet: Fever: 98% Cough: 76% Fatigue: 44% Sputum production: 28% Headache: 8% Haemoptysis: 5% Diarrhea: 3% Also note it took eight days to develop dyspnoea, or difficulty breathing. Also notice that 12% suffered “acute cardiac injury” which means permanent damage to the heart. Sadly, through policies such as open borders, filthy liberal cities and biosludge “recycling” of human sewage onto food farms, humanity has created the “perfect storm” for a pandemic wipeout that cannot be stopped: I think some cases have had like almost 2 week incubation. |
KHUFU, SEA LORD User ID: 1622847 Iraq 01/26/2020 04:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | BREAKING: Coronavirus Hits 15% Fatality Rate, 83% Infection Rate for Those Exposed; Lancet Publishes Early Study That Points to Alarming Consequences for Humanity Quoting: WEDGE PLISSKEN Saturday, January 25, 2020 by: Mike Adams [link to www.naturalnews.com (secure)] BREAKING: The U.S. news media is currently running about one to two days behind the Chinese media in covering the bombshell revelations surrounding the coronavirus pandemic. Natural News has Chinese-speaking investigators on the ground in Taiwan, and they’re scanning the Chinese media for the most important announcements. Earlier today, the Taiwan media began reporting on a new mainland Chinese study that specifically looked at the individuals involved in this Wuhan coronavirus outbreak. We have a partial translation and link below. According to this news, which is widely circulating in the Taiwan press and is based on a study published in The Lancet, the Wuhan coronavirus fatality rate has leaped to 15%, and the infection rate among those exposed is 83%. These numbers are virtually unheard of in the world of microbiology and infectious disease transmission. It means that 15 out of every 100 infected people will die. It also means that 83 out of 100 exposed people will become infected and able to transmit the disease to others. So for every 100 people who are exposed, around 12 will die (15% of 83). The only criticism of this study is that its sample size was relatively small, given that it’s still very early in the outbreak of this disease. The study looked at 41 cases of individuals who were exposed. If the infection rate stands at 83%, this pandemic will be impossible to contain Also note the more detailed list of symptoms offered by The Lancet: Fever: 98% Cough: 76% Fatigue: 44% Sputum production: 28% Headache: 8% Haemoptysis: 5% (coughing up BLOOD) Diarrhea: 3% Also note it took eight days to develop dyspnoea, or difficulty breathing. The victims don't have fever! They are testing something else! SAD! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78391173 United States 01/26/2020 05:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "All 41 patients had pneumonia with abnormal findings on chest CT" That is a 100% pneumonia rate for people infected with the Corona virus. That pretty much means everyone who gets this virus will go to the hospital, which will overwhelm medical facilities, which is what we are seeing now in China. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78176690 Canada 01/26/2020 06:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | n = 41 exposed, 6 deaths. 15% is NOT the mortality rate.. First of all, up till now we know 2000 have been infected and around 60 have died (official). However, many agree the number infected is vastly underestimated, something like 5% of the total... ie. 2000 x 20 = 40,000,,, So the mortality rate is 60 per 40,000,,,, or 15,000 per million... or 0.15%. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 63927796 United States 01/26/2020 05:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don’t let the Coronavirus hype scare you. The virus is merely an excuse to lock down the population prior to the financial system collapse. People won’t want to attend mass demonstrations if they think they’ll get a deadly virus from doing so. The virus is also a mechanism that can be used to bring down Xi Jinping and the Chinese Communist Party under versions of the script that require it. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 14675386 United Kingdom 01/26/2020 05:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | BREAKING: Coronavirus Hits 15% Fatality Rate, 83% Infection Rate for Those Exposed; Lancet Publishes Early Study That Points to Alarming Consequences for Humanity Quoting: WEDGE PLISSKEN Saturday, January 25, 2020 by: Mike Adams [link to www.naturalnews.com (secure)] BREAKING: The U.S. news media is currently running about one to two days behind the Chinese media in covering the bombshell revelations surrounding the coronavirus pandemic. Natural News has Chinese-speaking investigators on the ground in Taiwan, and they’re scanning the Chinese media for the most important announcements. Earlier today, the Taiwan media began reporting on a new mainland Chinese study that specifically looked at the individuals involved in this Wuhan coronavirus outbreak. We have a partial translation and link below. According to this news, which is widely circulating in the Taiwan press and is based on a study published in The Lancet, the Wuhan coronavirus fatality rate has leaped to 15%, and the infection rate among those exposed is 83%. These numbers are virtually unheard of in the world of microbiology and infectious disease transmission. It means that 15 out of every 100 infected people will die. It also means that 83 out of 100 exposed people will become infected and able to transmit the disease to others. So for every 100 people who are exposed, around 12 will die (15% of 83). The only criticism of this study is that its sample size was relatively small, given that it’s still very early in the outbreak of this disease. The study looked at 41 cases of individuals who were exposed. If the infection rate stands at 83%, this pandemic will be impossible to contain Also note the more detailed list of symptoms offered by The Lancet: Fever: 98% Cough: 76% Fatigue: 44% Sputum production: 28% Headache: 8% Haemoptysis: 5% (coughing up BLOOD) Diarrhea: 3% Also note it took eight days to develop dyspnoea, or difficulty breathing. Not being a spoil sport, but as a healthy guy in mid 30s I had the symptoms over the new year, for about 3-4 days. It was no big deal, I've had worse hangovers that this. Go to bed with a water bottle and sweat it out, the cough up the debris fir the next few weeks... What I'm saying is, can the symptoms appear just like a flu with chest infection for some people? Because that's not a big deal for some people. Only for, elderly and babies. |
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