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ABC News reports: "Travelers from China are being screened at five U.S. airports".
Then almost the very next sentence it says: "The CDC says the virus appears to have a two-week incubation period".

Just screening them for symptoms is not enough!

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Texas A&M students test just came back NEGATIVE
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“The genetics can tell us the true timing of the first cases” and whether they occurred earlier than officials realized, said molecular biologist Kristian Andersen of Scripps Research, an expert on viral genomes. “It can also tell us how the outbreak started — from a single event of a virus jumping from an infected animal to a person or from a lot of animals being infected. And the genetics can tell us what’s sustaining the outbreak — new introductions from animals or human-to-human transmission.”

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"The genome sequences suggest that was a one-time-only jump. “The genomes [from the 24 samples] are very uniform,” Andersen said. “If there had been multiple introductions,” including from many different animals, “there would be more genomic diversity. This was a single introduction.”

"That means that what’s sustaining the spread is human-to-human transmission (suggesting that closing Wuhan’s animal market is very much an after-the-horse-has-fled-the-barn reaction)."

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Just heard from my wife that one of her friend’s coworkers checked out early with the flu on Friday, and apparently died today. No mention of this virus yet, but very disturbing nonetheless. We are in Tennessee.
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"CDC estimates that so far this season there have been at least 15 million flu illnesses, 140,000 hospitalizations and 8,200 deaths from flu."

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yet no one is talking about this!
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So why are they making such a big deal of Corona when flu has an exponentially higher impact. I really would like to understand this. And why has China quarantined millions of people?
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Because the numbers they are giving us are total BS
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new numbers

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2493 confirmed

2692 suspected

51 recovered

80 deaths
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new numbers

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2493 confirmed

2692 suspected

51 recovered

80 deaths
 Quoting: NawtyBits


CFR now 61%

mortaility 3.2%

A LOT more deaths that recoveries in the last day.
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Wuhan new crown virus: normal body temperature during incubation period can also be transmitted

Ma Xiaowei, director of the National Health Commission of China, said on the 26th that Wuhan New Crown Virus was also contagious during the incubation period. He said that from the perspective of transmission characteristics, some patients had low or normal early body temperature, more mild cases, and recessive infections. The “walking source of infection” greatly increased the difficulty of prevention and control.
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I not care for “New Crown Pneumonia.” Boring.

This is the Kung Flu and always will be.
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I vote for Kung Flu. Or Wu Flu.
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2116 confirmed

52 recovered

56 dead

~52% CFR
~2.6% Mortality rate
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bump from this morning to compare
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Texas A&M students test just came back NEGATIVE
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Some GOOD NEWS!
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new numbers

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2493 confirmed

2692 suspected

51 recovered

80 deaths
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CHINUH CANT HIDE THAT MANY DEATHS...CONGRATS ON P. 33!
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ASIAN MARKETS CARSHING BY THE WAY...BEEN OPEN FOR LESS THAN AN HOUR...CHINUH FUTURES...10% DOWN....UH.
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new numbers

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2493 confirmed

2692 suspected

51 recovered

80 deaths
 Quoting: NawtyBits


CFR now 61%

mortaility 3.2%

A LOT more deaths that recoveries in the last day.
 Quoting: NawtyBits


So, since this mornings report, 1 recovered. 24 more died. 377 new confirmed
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@CNN: "We need to be preparing as if this is a pandemic, but I continue to hope it is not." Right. [link to cnn.it (secure)] If asx spread confirmed, many implications.

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h/t ronan kelly at FT

This is a Chinese government release and not subject to 50% rule

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Update on pneumonia of new coronavirus infection as of 24:00 on January 26
Published: 2020-01-27Source : Health Emergency Office
  At 02:00 on January 26, 30 provinces (autonomous regions and municipalities) reported 769 new confirmed cases, 137 severe cases, 24 new deaths (24 cases in Hubei Province), and newly cured discharged cases. 2 cases, 3806 suspected cases were newly added.
  As of 24:00 on January 26, the National Health and Health Commission had received a total of 2,744 confirmed cases in 30 provinces (autonomous regions and municipalities), 461 cases of severe cases, 80 cases of deaths, and 51 cases of hospitalization. There are 5794 suspected cases.
  At present, 32,799 close contacts have been traced, 583 people were released from medical observation on the same day, and 30,453 people are currently receiving medical observation.
  A total of confirmed cases were reported from Hong Kong, Macao and Taiwan: 8 cases from Hong Kong Special Administrative Region, 5 cases from Macao Special Administrative Region, and 4 cases from Taiwan.
  In addition, accumulative confirmed cases were reported from abroad: 7 in Thailand, 3 in Japan, 3 in South Korea, 3 in the United States, 2 in Vietnam, 4 in Singapore, 3 in Malaysia, 1 in Nepal, 3 in France, and 4 in Australia.

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new numbers

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2493 confirmed

2692 suspected

51 recovered

80 deaths
 Quoting: NawtyBits


CFR now 61%

mortaility 3.2%

A LOT more deaths that recoveries in the last day.
 Quoting: NawtyBits


So, since this mornings report, 1 recovered. 24 more died. 377 new confirmed
 Quoting: NawtyBits


Suspected cases is 5794 now. An increase of 3000+.
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"Applying ballpark rates of viral evolution, Rambaut estimates that the Adam (or Eve) virus [2019-nCoV] from which all others are descended first appeared no earlier than Oct. 30, 2019, and no later than Nov. 29."

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#coronavirus news changes fast. Now clear: less deadly, possibly more infectious than SARS. Messonnier of @CDC on
@CNN: "We need to be preparing as if this is a pandemic, but I continue to hope it is not." Right. [link to cnn.it (secure)] If asx spread confirmed, many implications.

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 Quoting: Toprance1


SARS came and went without causing too much fuss in the West.
If Wuhan is less deadly than SARS, but somehow more likely to spread into places such as the US, does the Wuhan virus end up being a wash?


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h/t ronan kelly at FT

This is a Chinese government release and not subject to 50% rule

[link to www.nhc.gov.cn]

Update on pneumonia of new coronavirus infection as of 24:00 on January 26
Published: 2020-01-27Source : Health Emergency Office
  At 02:00 on January 26, 30 provinces (autonomous regions and municipalities) reported 769 new confirmed cases, 137 severe cases, 24 new deaths (24 cases in Hubei Province), and newly cured discharged cases. 2 cases, 3806 suspected cases were newly added.
  As of 24:00 on January 26, the National Health and Health Commission had received a total of 2,744 confirmed cases in 30 provinces (autonomous regions and municipalities), 461 cases of severe cases, 80 cases of deaths, and 51 cases of hospitalization. There are 5794 suspected cases.
  At present, 32,799 close contacts have been traced, 583 people were released from medical observation on the same day, and 30,453 people are currently receiving medical observation.
  A total of confirmed cases were reported from Hong Kong, Macao and Taiwan: 8 cases from Hong Kong Special Administrative Region, 5 cases from Macao Special Administrative Region, and 4 cases from Taiwan.
  In addition, accumulative confirmed cases were reported from abroad: 7 in Thailand, 3 in Japan, 3 in South Korea, 3 in the United States, 2 in Vietnam, 4 in Singapore, 3 in Malaysia, 1 in Nepal, 3 in France, and 4 in Australia.

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2493 confirmed

2692 suspected

51 recovered

80 deaths
 Quoting: NawtyBits


CFR now 61%

mortaility 3.2%

A LOT more deaths that recoveries in the last day.
 Quoting: NawtyBits


So, since this mornings report, 1 recovered. 24 more died. 377 new confirmed
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Suspected cases is 5794 now. An increase of 3000+.
 Quoting: NawtyBits


I'm seeing 2744 as confirmed now.
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#coronavirus news changes fast. Now clear: less deadly, possibly more infectious than SARS. Messonnier of @CDC on
@CNN: "We need to be preparing as if this is a pandemic, but I continue to hope it is not." Right. [link to cnn.it (secure)] If asx spread confirmed, many implications.

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 Quoting: Toprance1


SARS came and went without causing too much fuss in the West.
If Wuhan is less deadly than SARS, but somehow more likely to spread into places such as the US, does the Wuhan virus end up being a wash?


.
 Quoting: CSnow


Do you want 10,000 people with a deadlier disease, or 1,000,000 with a less deadly disease?

Will it be a wash?

And I trust Tom Frieden as far as I can throw him. He is the master of weasel words. He's a freaking politician

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Normal Flu Strains:

CDC estimates that so far this season there have been at least 15 million flu illnesses, 140,000 hospitalizations and 8,200 deaths from flu

Coronavirus:

new numbers

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2493 confirmed

2692 suspected

51 recovered

80 deaths

Whats the big deal???
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2493 confirmed

2692 suspected

51 recovered

80 deaths
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CHINUH CANT HIDE THAT MANY DEATHS...CONGRATS ON P. 33!
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ASIAN MARKETS CARSHING BY THE WAY...BEEN OPEN FOR LESS THAN AN HOUR...CHINUH FUTURES...10% DOWN....UH.
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The economic damage has begun.

US futures down over 1%.
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Normal Flu Strains:

CDC estimates that so far this season there have been at least 15 million flu illnesses, 140,000 hospitalizations and 8,200 deaths from flu

Coronavirus:

new numbers

[link to bnonews.com (secure)]

2493 confirmed

2692 suspected

51 recovered

80 deaths

Whats the big deal???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75868928


millions quarantined says more than whatever those fudged numbers ever could.

panic is worse than the virus, so they lie.
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#coronavirus news changes fast. Now clear: less deadly, possibly more infectious than SARS. Messonnier of @CDC on
@CNN: "We need to be preparing as if this is a pandemic, but I continue to hope it is not." Right. [link to cnn.it (secure)] If asx spread confirmed, many implications.

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SARS came and went without causing too much fuss in the West.
If Wuhan is less deadly than SARS, but somehow more likely to spread into places such as the US, does the Wuhan virus end up being a wash?

.
 Quoting: CSnow



Total number of SARS deaths was 774. 8098 cases total. From the 2002 - 2003 outbreak.


Compare that to the CURRENT state of influenza in the US:

"CDC estimates that so far this season there have been at least 15 million flu illnesses, 140,000 hospitalizations and 8,200 deaths from flu."

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Normal Flu Strains:

CDC estimates that so far this season there have been at least 15 million flu illnesses, 140,000 hospitalizations and 8,200 deaths from flu

Coronavirus:

new numbers

[link to bnonews.com (secure)]

2493 confirmed

2692 suspected

51 recovered

80 deaths

Whats the big deal???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75868928


millions quarantined says more than whatever those fudged numbers ever could.

panic is worse than the virus, so they lie.
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nevermind that population centers are giant petri dishes, and things like this can grow exponentially.

do you drive full speed on icy roads?
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Normal Flu Strains:

CDC estimates that so far this season there have been at least 15 million flu illnesses, 140,000 hospitalizations and 8,200 deaths from flu

Coronavirus:

new numbers

[link to bnonews.com (secure)]

2493 confirmed

2692 suspected

51 recovered

80 deaths

Whats the big deal???
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The numbers. Flu has a mortality rate of about 2 deaths per 100,000 people infected.

nCoV has a death rate of approximately 3 deaths per 100 people infected.

Math is the big deal.
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Normal Flu Strains:

CDC estimates that so far this season there have been at least 15 million flu illnesses, 140,000 hospitalizations and 8,200 deaths from flu

Coronavirus:

new numbers

[link to bnonews.com (secure)]

2493 confirmed

2692 suspected

51 recovered

80 deaths

Whats the big deal???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75868928


The numbers. Flu has a mortality rate of about 2 deaths per 100,000 people infected.

nCoV has a death rate of approximately 3 deaths per 100 people infected.

Math is the big deal.
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I'll make the comparison easier:

Flu 2 in 100,000 will die
CoV 3000 in 100,000 will die

See?
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2493 confirmed

2692 suspected

51 recovered

80 deaths
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CHINUH CANT HIDE THAT MANY DEATHS...CONGRATS ON P. 33!
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ASIAN MARKETS CARSHING BY THE WAY...BEEN OPEN FOR LESS THAN AN HOUR...CHINUH FUTURES...10% DOWN....UH.
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Do you want 10,000 people with a deadlier disease, or 1,000,000 with a less deadly disease?

Will it be a wash?

And I trust Tom Frieden as far as I can throw him. He is the master of weasel words. He's a freaking politician
 Quoting: NawtyBits


After knowing a bit more about Wuhan and Coronaviruses, still not totally sure where to draw the line.

What makes Wuhan worse than SARS?

What specific biological factors cause a Spanish flu of 1918 to be worse than other viruses before and after that year?

Is China's culture of a lack of hygiene, such as where soap isn't common in public restrooms and elsewhere (including in even hospitals), make places like Wuhan, Beijing and Shanghai giant, open-air petri dishes?

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80 deaths?

Goodness, the doom that's being spread over this acts like it's in the 10's of thousands.

That's 80 deaths from the virus being active for 2 months now...
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They give a low mortality but more die than recover and that is not good.

In China no less.

I'm suspecting they're just killing people and timing a release. Who knows what they're doing and if its legit. Its china! Evil incorporated draco leaders who work with deep state, soros and the rothschilds.

Just take due care and caution and stock up on anything that stops that severe immune system reaction from C, to garlic/oil of oregano, green tea, food grade hydrogen peroxide.

My friend and I were discussing this and she takes the hydrogen peroxide, a few drops in her juice already so she just took notes on what others had said in threads and posts from here.

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