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Every nation has fire drills in case there's a fire , most nations have health and safety laws, rules to prevent accidents.
Each nation needs a community engagement responce action plan for pandemics.
Lol A C.R.A.P. Plan, just realized what I wrote.

Ohhhh CRAP plan.

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BREAKING: U.S. CDC calls coronavirus an "emerging public health threat," says threat is "serious"

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So it's an "emerging public health threat" and "serious", but it's also not spreading in the US and isn't a cause for concern? I'm confused...
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No human to human transmission in the US.
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yet. But likely.
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Someone needs to name this thing. Wuhan Flu, perhaps?
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You beat me to that suggestion.

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 Quoting: CSnow


It's not an influenza.

It will be something something Respiratory Syndrome I would think.

Wuhan Originated Respiratory Syndrome WORS

As in, this is the WORS thing we've ever seen.
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When Originated Respiratory Syndrome Trials
WORST
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Someone needs to name this thing. Wuhan Flu, perhaps?
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You beat me to that suggestion.

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It's not an influenza.

It will be something something Respiratory Syndrome I would think.

Wuhan Originated Respiratory Syndrome WORS

As in, this is the WORS thing we've ever seen.
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Wuhan Originated Respiratory Syndrome Trials
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This needs to be treated by nations as though they are at War , but the enemy is the VIRUS. Gear up the nation as they did for WW2.
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UNfortunately, there is more than 1 enemy here.

Don't forget politics and economics. They are aiding and abetting the virus.
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Someone needs to name this thing. Wuhan Flu, perhaps?
 Quoting: gnostic9


You beat me to that suggestion.

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It's not an influenza.

It will be something something Respiratory Syndrome I would think.

Wuhan Originated Respiratory Syndrome WORS

As in, this is the WORS thing we've ever seen.
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Well that would make it, The WORST CRAP we've ever seen.
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Just heard from my wife that one of her friend’s coworkers checked out early with the flu on Friday, and apparently died today. No mention of this virus yet, but very disturbing nonetheless. We are in Tennessee.
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"CDC estimates that so far this season there have been at least 15 million flu illnesses, 140,000 hospitalizations and 8,200 deaths from flu."

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yet no one is talking about this!
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5 Million Potential Carriers Have Left Wuhan As Coronavirus Appears To Mutate Into "More Transmissable" Form

"Wang Jiangping, China’s vice-minister of industry and information technology, said China had the capacity to produce a maximum of 30,000 protective outfits per day, but that was less than a third of what was needed in Hubei."

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90,000 protective suits per day needed. Makes the 2,000 infected number from China laughable.
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If it's becoming more transmittable it should be becoming less deadly.

The most deadly viruses are ones that jump from animals to people and haven't had time to mutate.

Once they mutate they almost always become less deadly but more contagious.
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I like how when something doomy happens GLP posters become instant experts. The "microbiologists" posting in this thread are numerous. They were the same ones calling the blowout protector on the deepwater horizons disaster the "BOP"

cruise
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No microbiologist here -- Masters in Finance, but I am a clean freak. Wear shoes in my house and you will be skinned alive.
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Ive switched from carpet to tile , which is easier to sterilize. If you could see the stuff that was under the carpet when I took it up, you'd die of anxiety, and it didn't look a bit dirty from the top.
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I cannot abide by carpet at all.

Nasty!
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Carpet is like clothing that you walk on and wash once every few years.
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h/t Treyfish at FT

[link to www.vdh.virginia.gov]

Currently Virginia is investigating three residents in the central (2) and northern (1) regions of Virginia who meet both clinical and epidemiologic criteria for 2019-nCoV. Beginning January 27, VDH will post the number of Patients Under Investigation (PUIs) who meet both clinical and epidemiologic criteria for 2019-nCoV testing at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) on the VDH novel coronavirus webpage. To protect patient confidentiality, specific details about these patients will not be provided. Public health is working closely with these patients and anyone who was in close contact to prevent the spread of illness.



FYI, clinical criteria says to me, symptoms.
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Currently Virginia is investigating three residents in the central (2) and northern (1) regions of Virginia who meet both clinical and epidemiologic criteria for 2019-nCoV. Beginning January 27, VDH will post the number of Patients Under Investigation (PUIs) who meet both clinical and epidemiologic criteria for 2019-nCoV testing at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) on the VDH novel coronavirus webpage. To protect patient confidentiality, specific details about these patients will not be provided. Public health is working closely with these patients and anyone who was in close contact to prevent the spread of illness.



FYI, clinical criteria says to me, symptoms.
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Wouldn't "epidemiologic criteria" mean someone who flew back from Wuhan/China?
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Just heard from my wife that one of her friend’s coworkers checked out early with the flu on Friday, and apparently died today. No mention of this virus yet, but very disturbing nonetheless. We are in Tennessee.
 Quoting: SaveUSa


"CDC estimates that so far this season there have been at least 15 million flu illnesses, 140,000 hospitalizations and 8,200 deaths from flu."

[link to www.cdc.gov (secure)]


yet no one is talking about this!
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Exactly! You have a far greater chance right now of getting the flu, and dying from it, than getting the Wuhan.

Unless you just went to China.
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One of the suspected cases in Virginia is a George Mason student who recently returned from China. Got the email a few hours ago..Classes started back last week.
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h/t Tea at FT

from Dr Niman just now, who is listening in

100 under investigation from 26 states
5 positive
25 negative

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[link to www.vdh.virginia.gov]

Currently Virginia is investigating three residents in the central (2) and northern (1) regions of Virginia who meet both clinical and epidemiologic criteria for 2019-nCoV. Beginning January 27, VDH will post the number of Patients Under Investigation (PUIs) who meet both clinical and epidemiologic criteria for 2019-nCoV testing at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) on the VDH novel coronavirus webpage. To protect patient confidentiality, specific details about these patients will not be provided. Public health is working closely with these patients and anyone who was in close contact to prevent the spread of illness.



FYI, clinical criteria says to me, symptoms.
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Wouldn't "epidemiologic criteria" mean someone who flew back from Wuhan/China?
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Indeed.
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This is from a CDC release:

The virus genetic sequence from the patient in Washington is nearly identical to the sequences posted from China. The available sequences suggest a likely single, recent emergence from a virus related to bat coronaviruses and the SARS coronavirus. The available sequence information does not provide any information about severity of associated illness or transmissibility of the virus.

[snip]

At this time, it’s unclear how easily or sustainably this virus is spreading between people.
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Suspect Ivory Coast
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I suggest reading this whole article. It is a translation of a Boxun article. Boxun is an aggregation website, which focuses on alleged political scandals in China. Partially supported by U.S. government-funded National Endowment for Democracy, Boxun is part of the China Free Press project, which is initiated by U.S. government.


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Blockade of major epidemic information

China's party-state system has always thought that it has unparalleled superiority over western democratic systems. Under the "one-shot" of the party leader, it can "concentrate its strengths on major tasks." However, the facts show that from SARS 17 years ago to Wuhan pneumonia today, it has neither reflected the ruling party's "initial heart" to protect the national life, and people and family members who have no cause of illness cannot expect to hear the "one final word" of the party leader because the party-state system The ability to "concentrate on major issues" was mainly used to block news at the beginning of the epidemic.

The first case of the so-called "Wuhan pneumonia" occurred in early December last year, and there have been few official cases since then, indicating that the condition does not seem to develop rapidly. Until January 19, China did not report confirmed or suspected cases outside Wuhan. Li Gang, director of the Wuhan Municipal Center for Disease Control and Prevention, also claimed on the 19th that the epidemic was "preventable and controllable", a statement that was confirmed in the latest announcement of the Health Emergency Office of the Chinese National Health and Health Commission.

But after a lapse of one day, the official door shifted sharply, and the Central Expert Group came to Wuhan, acknowledging that "people pass from person to person," and the number of cases suddenly rose. Showing the spread of the epidemic in China is by no means an understatement.

[snip]

China's ability to "concentrate to do major things" is quite good at blocking information and whitewashing peace. It is still above the system of infectious disease diagnosis and diagnosis, but the focus is on tediousness rather than efficiency. According to reports: An anonymous Guangdong health official confirmed that the authorities required all doctors to follow a multi-day "three-step confirmation agreement", otherwise the confirmed cases could not be announced publicly. It was only on January 12 that China submitted the genome sequence to the World Health Organization, and then took two days to generate a diagnostic test kit and distribute it to public health agencies in various places.

[snip]

In addition, unverified information from Wuhan also showed that Wuhan residents posted images of their own diagnosis of viral pneumonia on Weibo and described the long queue of patients with similar symptoms late at night in the hospital on Monday night, but none of these patients Asked for coronavirus testing. It was also revealed that many and many suspected patients in his Wuhan hospital had not been diagnosed. The patients waiting to be diagnosed were patients who were admitted a month ago, and the accelerated examination was only started yesterday. All this information is doubtful: the number of patients currently reported in Wuhan may be much lower than the actual situation.
 Quoting: NawtyBits


Boxun went dark for a day or so early part of the past week. This was very concerning to me, but yesterday I saw new material.

I do not see any reason for the Chinese to overstate the severity of a situation, though I have seen them time and again overstate any news that might be good for them, and have seen them under report bad news. So I am going to take the stand that there are hundreds, even thousands of cases is Wuhan.

Than you for your information, it's always helpful.
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Texas A&M student negative

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Hong Kong protesters set fire to building intended as coronavirus quarantine site


Hong Kong protesters have set fire to a newly constructed residential building, which the government was planning to use to address the coronavirus outbreak. Reports revealed about 200 protesters gathered near the building and set the fire on Sunday.

Firefighters and riot police arrived soon after. The damage appeared to be confined mostly to the lobby.

Protesters said they were opposed to the building being used as a quarantine zone, due to its close proximity to a school and the city’s main residential area.
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For anyone who is placated by the fact that there were no new deaths reported on Sunday, please be patient.

It's currently 6:41am in Beijing. Monday is about to start.

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Patients at Wuhan Hospital wait to confide despair and helplessness to AFP

The Wuhan Hospital was severely saturated, and patients waited in long queues. Some people bring their own plastic benches or benches, and some people show pictures of patients lying on the floor in the corridor to insert tubes. Others tell AFP that there are too many dead people, and some are left unattended all day, like horror movies.

On Saturday (January 25) at the Wuhan Red Cross Hospital, some patients confided their despair and helplessness to AFP reporters. They are willing to testify, but they dare not reveal their names, fearing that the country, which strictly controls speech, will sanction them.

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Pneumonia rages: Beijing infant infected with Shanghai's first death

Wuhan New Crown Pneumonia continues to spread: today a 9-month-old baby girl in Beijing was diagnosed with New Crown Pneumonia. The first death of New Crown virus in Shanghai. Beijing, Tianjin and Shanghai have announced the suspension of long-distance passenger transport.

A 9-month-old baby girl in Beijing was diagnosed with new coronary pneumonia, which is alarming. According to the Beijing News quoted by the Beijing Health and Medical Commission on January 26, there were five new cases of neocoronavirus pneumonia in Beijing, including a 9-month-old baby. The baby had a history of contact in Hubei. He developed symptoms on January 25 and was diagnosed with New Crown virus on January 26. As of 21:00 on January 26, a total of 68 cases were confirmed in Beijing and 2 cases were cured.
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Wuhan new crown virus: normal body temperature during incubation period can also be transmitted

Ma Xiaowei, director of the National Health Commission of China, said on the 26th that Wuhan New Crown Virus was also contagious during the incubation period. He said that from the perspective of transmission characteristics, some patients had low or normal early body temperature, more mild cases, and recessive infections. The “walking source of infection” greatly increased the difficulty of prevention and control.
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Wuhan new crown virus: normal body temperature during incubation period can also be transmitted

Ma Xiaowei, director of the National Health Commission of China, said on the 26th that Wuhan New Crown Virus was also contagious during the incubation period. He said that from the perspective of transmission characteristics, some patients had low or normal early body temperature, more mild cases, and recessive infections. The “walking source of infection” greatly increased the difficulty of prevention and control.
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I don’t care for “New Crown Pneumonia.” Boring.

This is the Kung Flu and always will be.

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Just heard from my wife that one of her friend’s coworkers checked out early with the flu on Friday, and apparently died today. No mention of this virus yet, but very disturbing nonetheless. We are in Tennessee.
 Quoting: SaveUSa


"CDC estimates that so far this season there have been at least 15 million flu illnesses, 140,000 hospitalizations and 8,200 deaths from flu."

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yet no one is talking about this!
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I've been posting this in all these threads for the last four days. In past years, no one has noticed all those illnesses and deaths, but now people are already blaming President Trump because he's not doing something about the Coronavirus and people might die!

Since 2010...in the USA:

CDC estimates that influenza has resulted in

* 9 million-45 million illnesses,

* 140,000–810,000 hospitalizations and

* 12,000–61,000 deaths annually.

There's an interesting chart here showing each year.
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Pneumonia rages: Beijing infant infected with Shanghai's first death

Wuhan New Crown Pneumonia continues to spread: today a 9-month-old baby girl in Beijing was diagnosed with New Crown Pneumonia. The first death of New Crown virus in Shanghai. Beijing, Tianjin and Shanghai have announced the suspension of long-distance passenger transport.

A 9-month-old baby girl in Beijing was diagnosed with new coronary pneumonia, which is alarming. According to the Beijing News quoted by the Beijing Health and Medical Commission on January 26, there were five new cases of neocoronavirus pneumonia in Beijing, including a 9-month-old baby. The baby had a history of contact in Hubei. He developed symptoms on January 25 and was diagnosed with New Crown virus on January 26. As of 21:00 on January 26, a total of 68 cases were confirmed in Beijing and 2 cases were cured.
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What about the caregivers for the child? Do they have it? Are they now out spreading?
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Trust the CDC.

Trust Sessions.
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Trust the CDC.

Trust Sessions.
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What do you expect the CDC to do for you? They're not a hospital.
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Just heard from my wife that one of her friend’s coworkers checked out early with the flu on Friday, and apparently died today. No mention of this virus yet, but very disturbing nonetheless. We are in Tennessee.
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"CDC estimates that so far this season there have been at least 15 million flu illnesses, 140,000 hospitalizations and 8,200 deaths from flu."

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yet no one is talking about this!
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So why are they making such a big deal of Corona when flu has an exponentially higher impact. I really would like to understand this. And why has China quarantined millions of people?





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