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did anyone else just watch their live update? the experts live on air admitted that the second person with nCoV was indeed a traveler.. but also that when they admitted themselves to the hospital wasnt untill they were returning home back to WUHAN...WHICH MEANS.. this person was spreading this disease unknowingly while they were staying here!

Did anyone else see this.. i cant get the live stream back! it was clear as day and they were in full panic mode! my wife and i were shocked when we heard it

I've seen several disturbing videos. Ugh

From link

"China has now confirmed 56 deaths and 1,975.

For reference to total number of global SARS cases were 8089 and it cut around 1 percentage point from Chinese GDP. That pandemic also moved much more slowly. To me, this will undoubtedly be worse.

In any case, this is about the official number. It's now progressed like this:

Jan 17: 41
Jan 19: 62
Jan 20: 201
Jan 21: 291
Jan 22: 440
Jan 24: 830
Jan 25: 1,287
Jan 26: 1,975

Those numbers are terrifying but I'm about to scare you much more. Here's why the latest number is statistically impossible, and almost certainly far too low.

Canada became the latest country to confirm a case of coronavirus. That brings the total number of people infected abroad to at least 32 by my count. At least 30 of them have a direct connection to Wuhan city and yet that province has only reported 761 cases.

That means there is one foreign case directly tied to Wuhan for every 25 cases in the city. Put differently, that means that in the short window of incubation -- two weeks at most but probably half that -- one in every 25 people in the city would have had to travel abroad -- or about 433,639 people."

From link:

"To put that into perspective, Sweden is the most well-traveled country in the world and has almost the same population as Wuhan (11 million). The average number of international trips each day is just over 30,000. If you were adjust for people who took multiple trips per year that would conservatively fall to 20,000. Nevermind that Sweden is one of the richest countries in the world and travel to the rest of Europe is extremely cheap and easy. But citizens of Wuhan would have had to travel abroad at more than twice the rate of Swedes for the 761 number from Wuhan to be even remotely possible.

This is the exact methodology that the MRC Centre for Global Infectious Disease Analysis used on January 17, when China had reported just 41 cases they estimated 1700 cases.

This epidemic is far worse than the reported numbers, but China's efforts to seal off +50 million people and shut down a dozen cities already told you that.

Still not scared? A big debate in the virus community right now is the basic reproduction number of this virus. That's how many people each person passes it to, on average. If it's 10 that means it spreads very quickly, if it's less than 1 it inevitably dies out. A new paper from China pegs it at 3.3-5.5 and at this point that basically means it's unstoppable baring some intense quarantines and a bit of luck. Another paper initially had it at 3.8 but has scaled that back to 2.5 and another in the UK (cited below) has it at "2.6 or higher."

You can still stop an epidemic at that point but you need to contain 60% of cases.

Yet even at that level, here's what Neil Ferguson, an infectious disease modeller/epidemiologist and Director of J-IDEA and the MRC Centre for Global Infectious Disease Analysis says the outlook is bleak:
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Still not scared? Another paper estimates that the mortality rate of coronavirus is 15%."

Thanks LJS!

I'm taking a break.

No human to human transmission in the US.

Why is that cause for panic? Everyone who has it has been spreading it without knowing. Anyone who gets it will naturally assume they just have a cold.

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Please tell me someone else was just watching this live stream when they admitted that the second case that was presented to officials at LAX was from a traveler from Wuhan that reported to officials when awaiting to return home after their stay in america for their holiday..

MAJOR DOOM!!!

THIS MEANS THAT THEY HAVE BEEN INFECTING FAMILY AND THEIR IMMEDIATE POPULATION THE ENTIRE TIME THEY WERE ON HOLIDAY IN CALIFORNIA!!!

they are still evaluating the data.

Which link did you use?

Now that I know the label "Coronavirus" refers to even microbes that cause no more than the common cold, it bothers me that "Coronavirus" is being applied way too generally.

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I would think this means said traveler has been shedding for days. Traveler may have infected many whilst traveler moved around wherever traveler was visiting.
Was this the recent CA one?

what do you mean? thats if you dismiss the virus as a mere cold and not what everyone says it is..

this is a cause for concern because the patient has been in the us with the virus infecting all who were around the patient untill they felt ill at LAX airport when they were returning home.. they spent their entire holiday infecting the people around them here in america.. for who knows how long.. days to at least a 14 days

Since SARS and MER didn't hit the US all that hard, I wonder if better hygiene and more basic sanitary practice in America made the big difference?

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YES!! my wife and i were floored when they said it!.. they are not good at hiding their despair, and can barely keep to their talking points

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Posted by Ian Mackay, PhD.
"The incubation period is also infectious from observation. The incubation period is about 10 Around one day, the shortest was one day, and the longest was 14 days, which is very different from SARS"
-Ma Xiaowei

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We've had a lot of pandemic scares but this one has a different feel to it. I believe attempts are being made to lower population growth rates and increase mortality rates across the board.

this plague is being played down in China I believe, but it will be interesting to see the statistics involving the kill rates of various races and ethnicities. If death is limited to one demographic it is a clear indication of germ warfare being implemented.


I've thought all along it was only a matter of time before *someone* got desperate over communist china's increasingly dominant role in global free market capitalism.

just Mother Nature doing her work.

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I’ve had pneumonia as an adult & this Bio-Weapon Coronavirus is no random, regular pneumonia per a description I read. It impacts the lungs & brain. As your lungs fill with fluid and lesions grow, the brain impact damages the ability to breathe (diaphragm?). This is why people are falling over from a standing position. They let this disaster they created fly to California & other United States, when in early December it was contained in their Bat Soup borders. There needs to be a CLASS ACTION Lawsuit against CHINA !!! Premeditated murder would be the charge in a Criminal Action. This is utterly outrageous!! They continue to diminish the severity of this deliberate attack on humanity. ZERO flights should be leaving China... ZERO! No temperature check at the airport filters anything! It’s a script for the Movie “Dumb & Dumber 2”

There's a whole shit load of politicians coming back today!

Most of them proly got the fever I bet!!!!

You catch it just like you do a cold, but have a good chance to die from it.

Could be bad.

It might mutate into something harmless but usually they get worst before they get better, as they adapt to defeat the human immune system


it's only a matter
of time now.