COVID* STANDFORD MASK STUDY---Elsevier journal to retract widely debunked masks study whose author claimed a Stanford affiliation p345

Me too.
Same steps as grieving.

Denial
Anger
Bargaining
Depression
Acceptance (get there, get ready, prep, do it now).

I just made my last store run. Will hunker down for a week and see how things play out.

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Study refers to Wuhan pneumonia 1 pass 2 or 3+ Zhong Nanshan claims fast clinical trial of new drugs

After research and analysis, many infectious disease experts concluded that Wuhan pneumonia new coronavirus can be widely transmitted from person to person and the infectious power ranges from "2" to "3+", which means one patient can be infected Two to three or more close contacts. Liang Zhuowei, director of the Li Ka Shing School of Medicine at the University of Hong Kong, described that the spread of the new coronavirus in Wuhan is not weaker than SARS. Without epidemic prevention measures, the number of patients will at least double within a week.

Dr. Eric Feigl-Ding, an epidemiologist at Harvard University in the United States, quoted a preliminary estimate yesterday (25th) that the infectivity of the new virus in Wuhan is 3.8, which is described as a thermonuclear plague. He later quoted the third edition of the latest edition of the Royal College of London, UK, saying that the estimated infectivity of the virus is 2.6, that is, one person can infect 2.6 people, the situation is extremely bad, and the epidemic will be difficult to stop. He also quoted report author Neil Ferguson on Twitter on the 25th, saying that although China and other countries have worked very hard, everyone must be prepared, "it may not be possible to stop the virus."

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In terms of mortality, Liang Zhuowei quoted experts inferring that the death rate of pneumonia in Wuhan reached 14%, that is, one death per 7 to 8 people, and the death rate of SARS was 17%.

I don't understand this infectability rating at all. It makes no sense.

If it were true, that would mean that an infected person on a bus with 50 other people would only infect as many people as a person in a room with five other people.

Common sense tells me that the more people an infected person is in contact with, the more they will infect.

How can it be that anyone infected will only infect 2 or 3 people?

Someone tell me how I'm being dumb about this.

Nawty -- been so busy, have not yet had a chance to say "Thank You" for this thread.

Thank You

From Ian M. Mackay, PhD
@MackayIM
virologist. scientist.

"Not To Soon To Be Thinking About Preparedness.
"While nCoV2019 is definitely still in the `before a pandemic' stage - and it may never get there - now is the best time to make your plans and gather your supplies"

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Where did that train of thought even begin (that the virus only targets Chinese)? I agree with you, another week and we'll know for sure, but it doesn't seem likely that it would target only one ethnic group. That statement keeps popping up all over GLP but no one ever posts anything to support it other than "only Chinese people have died". To me, that's like saying that because there was a car crash in China, only Chinese people crash cars. Bad logic. Fact is, right now, we don't have enough information to make any kind of real assessment of the situation.

Some random thoughts on nCoV




2 suspects, college students, at U of Mn, 2 hours from me
10s of chinese nationals, students at local university, 30 minutes away. Since college was on break, many went home for the New Year, and are back for classes now



ugh

Well, shit. There goes Plan B.

"Rumor 5: drinking can kill the virus

锡 Xin Yanxin, the leader of the pneumonia expert group for the treatment of new coronavirus infection in Hebei Province, said that the new coronavirus is indeed intolerant to alcohol, and alcohol has a good disinfection effect. However, after a person drinks alcohol, alcohol enters the bloodstream through the gastrointestinal tract and is eliminated by liver metabolism. The new type of coronavirus infection is that the virus enters the respiratory tract and causes airway and lung lesions. "After a person drinks alcohol, the content of alcohol in the airways is far from enough to kill the virus, so there is no possibility of drinking to prevent or treat new coronavirus infections. On the contrary, excessive drinking reduces the body's resistance and easily leads to more serious Infection. "Yan Xixin said."

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Well, shit. There goes Plan B.

"Rumor 5: drinking can kill the virus

锡 Xin Yanxin, the leader of the pneumonia expert group for the treatment of new coronavirus infection in Hebei Province, said that the new coronavirus is indeed intolerant to alcohol, and alcohol has a good disinfection effect. However, after a person drinks alcohol, alcohol enters the bloodstream through the gastrointestinal tract and is eliminated by liver metabolism. The new type of coronavirus infection is that the virus enters the respiratory tract and causes airway and lung lesions. "After a person drinks alcohol, the content of alcohol in the airways is far from enough to kill the virus, so there is no possibility of drinking to prevent or treat new coronavirus infections. On the contrary, excessive drinking reduces the body's resistance and easily leads to more serious Infection. "Yan Xixin said."

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FYI, when one of the top 5 virologists in the world says you might want to prepare now, I'd listen.

Oh, thanks Toprance1.


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RO from 2.6 now To >>>>Latest Coronavirus R0 estimate: from 3.30 to 5.47

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“Everything we’ve learned with working with coronaviruses, with SARS and MERS, are helping us very rapidly get a jump on things with regard to this new virus.”

That was the point of my post...

I had not even thought of oversea students coming back after Christmas break

Where did that train of thought even begin (that the virus only targets Chinese)? I agree with you, another week and we'll know for sure, but it doesn't seem likely that it would target only one ethnic group. That statement keeps popping up all over GLP but no one ever posts anything to support it other than "only Chinese people have died". To me, that's like saying that because there was a car crash in China, only Chinese people crash cars. Bad logic. Fact is, right now, we don't have enough information to make any kind of real assessment of the situation.

2,6 means 1 person will at least contaminate 2,6 people

now its between 3.30 and 5.47

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Some random thoughts on nCoV




2 suspects, college students, at U of Mn, 2 hours from me
10s of chinese nationals, students at local university, 30 minutes away. Since college was on break, many went home for the New Year, and are back for classes now



ugh

Remember MERS virus?

Middle East Respiratory Syndrome

A Coronavirus that primarily infected Middle Eastern people. Why couldn't one also be selective about Asians?

From Ian M. Mackay, PhD
@MackayIM
virologist. scientist.

"Not To Soon To Be Thinking About Preparedness.
"While nCoV2019 is definitely still in the `before a pandemic' stage - and it may never get there - now is the best time to make your plans and gather your supplies"

[link to twitter.com (secure)]

Some random thoughts on nCoV




2 suspects, college students, at U of Mn, 2 hours from me
10s of chinese nationals, students at local university, 30 minutes away. Since college was on break, many went home for the New Year, and are back for classes now



ugh

Remember MERS virus?

Middle East Respiratory Syndrome

A Coronavirus that primarily infected Middle Eastern people. Why couldn't one also be selective about Asians?