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Anonymous Coward User ID: 42079668 United States 01/20/2020 09:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42079668 im not the one who reads a book and blindly believes it there is no proof in that video, only excerpts from books, that have no proof to back up their claims again you are brainwashed furthermore you say contrails spread out if there's enough humidity, and yet i live at high altitude and there's very little humidity here, yet I see chemtrails all the time i zoom in on planes and can physically see the chemicals being sprayed out you fail you lose go back to L---O---P Duncan, you are out of your league here buddy It's not about "blindly believing". It's about the application of science. YOU are unable to do that and it's pathetic. Again, YOU are stupid. I see a VERY believable explanation which is backed up by all of science. You accept the assumptions and speculation of OTHER morons as fact. I win! You are CERTAINLY welcome to use science to prove contrails wrong. I'm waiting. By the way, comparing humidity at ground level to the conditions at altitude is the epitome of stupid. Thanks for that nugget, moron. Dane, I pity you with all of my heart. i see no proof that what i see with my eyes is a contrail none you are just believing what's written in a book, that is speculation and assumption, there's no science involved you are certainly welcome to use science to prove that those trails i'm seeing are contrails and not chemtrails though by the way if it was a humidity issue then i wouldn't see a plane spraying chemtrails right next to a plane with a contrail, which i see quite often you are satisfied with the answer from a book, that's cute i can see they are spraying with my own eyes But, you see proof that the trail is full of "chemicals" that are being intentionally sprayed?! Interpretation based on ignorance often results in failure. I believe what is written because I'm able to visualize the hydrocarbon combustion resulting in water vapor which woill ALWAYS behave in a certain way given rthe atmospheric conditions. Feel free to use science to prove that contrails should dissipate within the conditions they persist/. I'm all for it! Do the experimentation and get back to me! Or, just ASSume what you want to believe is true when you look at something. Sorry, I don't think assumptions and speculation based on a paranoid lifestyle is better than science backed by billions of man hours of study. Again, feel free to use science to prove your claim/. Oh, you don't "believe" in science, or trust it? I'm not surprised! That means we can't discuss this rationally because we can't agree on who has the better knowledge. You can't blame me for accepting science if you can't prove the science is wrong. Which is what I'm waiting for chemtards to do. i don't believe your side of science has proved anything you are still using assumptions and blindly believing others I don't believe others, i question authority, thats it, anyone tells me anything I automatically don't believe it. you on the other hand will believe anything from the mouthpiece of authority so i guess we are at a stalemate then you can't prove your side i can't prove mine |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 42079668 United States 01/20/2020 09:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Science isn't about listening to others, it's about learning to APPLY the science to what we see in the world. there's a long list of theoretical science that hasn't been proven but we are supposed to just believe, like the big bang, what's really in the center of the earth, how gravity works etc So, you are saying there is no such thing as basic science that tells us what temperature water freezes at given any condition? You are an idiot. not telling you that at all but nice assumption |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 10599025 United States 01/20/2020 09:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10599025 It's not about "blindly believing". It's about the application of science. YOU are unable to do that and it's pathetic. Again, YOU are stupid. I see a VERY believable explanation which is backed up by all of science. You accept the assumptions and speculation of OTHER morons as fact. I win! You are CERTAINLY welcome to use science to prove contrails wrong. I'm waiting. By the way, comparing humidity at ground level to the conditions at altitude is the epitome of stupid. Thanks for that nugget, moron. Dane, I pity you with all of my heart. i see no proof that what i see with my eyes is a contrail none you are just believing what's written in a book, that is speculation and assumption, there's no science involved you are certainly welcome to use science to prove that those trails i'm seeing are contrails and not chemtrails though by the way if it was a humidity issue then i wouldn't see a plane spraying chemtrails right next to a plane with a contrail, which i see quite often you are satisfied with the answer from a book, that's cute i can see they are spraying with my own eyes But, you see proof that the trail is full of "chemicals" that are being intentionally sprayed?! Interpretation based on ignorance often results in failure. I believe what is written because I'm able to visualize the hydrocarbon combustion resulting in water vapor which woill ALWAYS behave in a certain way given rthe atmospheric conditions. Feel free to use science to prove that contrails should dissipate within the conditions they persist/. I'm all for it! Do the experimentation and get back to me! Or, just ASSume what you want to believe is true when you look at something. Sorry, I don't think assumptions and speculation based on a paranoid lifestyle is better than science backed by billions of man hours of study. Again, feel free to use science to prove your claim/. Oh, you don't "believe" in science, or trust it? I'm not surprised! That means we can't discuss this rationally because we can't agree on who has the better knowledge. You can't blame me for accepting science if you can't prove the science is wrong. Which is what I'm waiting for chemtards to do. i don't believe your side of science has proved anything you are still using assumptions and blindly believing others I don't believe others, i question authority, thats it, anyone tells me anything I automatically don't believe it. you on the other hand will believe anything from the mouthpiece of authority so i guess we are at a stalemate then you can't prove your side i can't prove mine And I don't believe the chemtards have proven the science wrong. I'm assuming the the conditions where the trails are, are within the ranges needed for the trails to persist. I admit I don't know the EXACT conditions at altitude where they persist and linger. That is why I'm asking for evidence that a trail has formed and persisted outside those conditions. If a chemtard can prove the atmospheric conditions where a trail persisted would not ALLOW a trail to persist, I will stop hassling chemtards forever and join the movement myself. As it stands, EVERY SINGLE bit of "evidence" provided by chemtards has been ignorant bullshit. I can prove it, by using science, that you won't accept anyway...So, why argue with me when I accept science and you don't?! I will NEVER accept the assumption and speculation of a conspiracy nut as fact...EVER! But, for shits and giggles, tell me the thing that absolutely NAILS it for you and I will find the words of people who have actually studied the subjects, relying on billions of man hours of study, that says you are a moron! EVERY fucking time you people present something AS evidence of "chemtrails", you end up posting evidence that you are a fucking moron! I don't say that there are no chemicals in the exhaust, of course there is. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 42079668 United States 01/20/2020 09:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42079668 i see no proof that what i see with my eyes is a contrail none you are just believing what's written in a book, that is speculation and assumption, there's no science involved you are certainly welcome to use science to prove that those trails i'm seeing are contrails and not chemtrails though by the way if it was a humidity issue then i wouldn't see a plane spraying chemtrails right next to a plane with a contrail, which i see quite often you are satisfied with the answer from a book, that's cute i can see they are spraying with my own eyes But, you see proof that the trail is full of "chemicals" that are being intentionally sprayed?! Interpretation based on ignorance often results in failure. I believe what is written because I'm able to visualize the hydrocarbon combustion resulting in water vapor which woill ALWAYS behave in a certain way given rthe atmospheric conditions. Feel free to use science to prove that contrails should dissipate within the conditions they persist/. I'm all for it! Do the experimentation and get back to me! Or, just ASSume what you want to believe is true when you look at something. Sorry, I don't think assumptions and speculation based on a paranoid lifestyle is better than science backed by billions of man hours of study. Again, feel free to use science to prove your claim/. Oh, you don't "believe" in science, or trust it? I'm not surprised! That means we can't discuss this rationally because we can't agree on who has the better knowledge. You can't blame me for accepting science if you can't prove the science is wrong. Which is what I'm waiting for chemtards to do. i don't believe your side of science has proved anything you are still using assumptions and blindly believing others I don't believe others, i question authority, thats it, anyone tells me anything I automatically don't believe it. you on the other hand will believe anything from the mouthpiece of authority so i guess we are at a stalemate then you can't prove your side i can't prove mine And I don't believe the chemtards have proven the science wrong. I'm assuming the the conditions where the trails are, are within the ranges needed for the trails to persist. I admit I don't know the EXACT conditions at altitude where they persist and linger. That is why I'm asking for evidence that a trail has formed and persisted outside those conditions. If a chemtard can prove the atmospheric conditions where a trail persisted would not ALLOW a trail to persist, I will stop hassling chemtards forever and join the movement myself. As it stands, EVERY SINGLE bit of "evidence" provided by chemtards has been ignorant bullshit. I can prove it, by using science, that you won't accept anyway...So, why argue with me when I accept science and you don't?! I will NEVER accept the assumption and speculation of a conspiracy nut as fact...EVER! But, for shits and giggles, tell me the thing that absolutely NAILS it for you and I will find the words of people who have actually studied the subjects, relying on billions of man hours of study, that says you are a moron! EVERY fucking time you people present something AS evidence of "chemtrails", you end up posting evidence that you are a fucking moron! I don't say that there are no chemicals in the exhaust, of course there is. you can't prove anything i can't prove anything so stalemate go back to your echo chamber homo |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 10599025 United States 01/20/2020 09:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Duncan just go back to your echo chamber with the 2 posters that play on 10 accounts Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42079668 we all know fork, hedwig, cowards anon, heman, and many others are ran by the same person it's painfully obvious at this point Dane, you want me to leave YOUR echo chamber? Sorry....no. You ASSume i'm those people and you are wrong. As usual. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 10599025 United States 01/20/2020 09:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10599025 But, you see proof that the trail is full of "chemicals" that are being intentionally sprayed?! Interpretation based on ignorance often results in failure. I believe what is written because I'm able to visualize the hydrocarbon combustion resulting in water vapor which woill ALWAYS behave in a certain way given rthe atmospheric conditions. Feel free to use science to prove that contrails should dissipate within the conditions they persist/. I'm all for it! Do the experimentation and get back to me! Or, just ASSume what you want to believe is true when you look at something. Sorry, I don't think assumptions and speculation based on a paranoid lifestyle is better than science backed by billions of man hours of study. Again, feel free to use science to prove your claim/. Oh, you don't "believe" in science, or trust it? I'm not surprised! That means we can't discuss this rationally because we can't agree on who has the better knowledge. You can't blame me for accepting science if you can't prove the science is wrong. Which is what I'm waiting for chemtards to do. i don't believe your side of science has proved anything you are still using assumptions and blindly believing others I don't believe others, i question authority, thats it, anyone tells me anything I automatically don't believe it. you on the other hand will believe anything from the mouthpiece of authority so i guess we are at a stalemate then you can't prove your side i can't prove mine And I don't believe the chemtards have proven the science wrong. I'm assuming the the conditions where the trails are, are within the ranges needed for the trails to persist. I admit I don't know the EXACT conditions at altitude where they persist and linger. That is why I'm asking for evidence that a trail has formed and persisted outside those conditions. If a chemtard can prove the atmospheric conditions where a trail persisted would not ALLOW a trail to persist, I will stop hassling chemtards forever and join the movement myself. As it stands, EVERY SINGLE bit of "evidence" provided by chemtards has been ignorant bullshit. I can prove it, by using science, that you won't accept anyway...So, why argue with me when I accept science and you don't?! I will NEVER accept the assumption and speculation of a conspiracy nut as fact...EVER! But, for shits and giggles, tell me the thing that absolutely NAILS it for you and I will find the words of people who have actually studied the subjects, relying on billions of man hours of study, that says you are a moron! EVERY fucking time you people present something AS evidence of "chemtrails", you end up posting evidence that you are a fucking moron! I don't say that there are no chemicals in the exhaust, of course there is. you can't prove anything i can't prove anything so stalemate go back to your echo chamber homo I'm not TRYING to prove anything! I have the science on my side, By default they are contrails so the burden of proof is on the new claim. I KNOW you can't prove the trails are "chemtrails". That is the point. You believe they are. Nothing more. Why not label the beliefs AS beliefs? I see nothing but ignorant statements of facts from chemtard idiots! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76626437 United States 01/20/2020 11:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He/she is not retarded. But chemtards certainly are! The trails exist, they are contrails though. Chemtard ignorance is VERY disturbing, considering how basic and simple the science that explains them is. In the REAL world,. chemtards are the retarded ones. That's just a fact. No doubt they can be made, but to imagine EVERY contrail is a so called central is stupid. There's no predictabile or economical way to know the impact of a dust or gas released into the sky from the stratosphere. |
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User ID: 77783338 United States 01/20/2020 11:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He/she is not retarded. But chemtards certainly are! The trails exist, they are contrails though. Chemtard ignorance is VERY disturbing, considering how basic and simple the science that explains them is. In the REAL world,. chemtards are the retarded ones. That's just a fact. You are a moron troll. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 10599025 United States 01/20/2020 11:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He/she is not retarded. But chemtards certainly are! The trails exist, they are contrails though. Chemtard ignorance is VERY disturbing, considering how basic and simple the science that explains them is. In the REAL world,. chemtards are the retarded ones. That's just a fact. You are a moron troll. And you are a fucking idiot chemtard. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 10599025 United States 01/20/2020 11:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Because there is no such thing. And contrails occur naturally so he cant end them. Now grow up since you have been told the truth Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76509910 He is talking about chemtails shit-for-brains not contrails. What morons ASSUME are chemtrails ARE contrails, paranoid retard fearmongering cunt. I see reason to believe otherwise because those who say they are "chemtrails" ALWAYS end up proving they are ignorant about aviation and science, dumbass. |
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User ID: 78196527 United States 01/20/2020 11:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nope 2 different things. Contrails are short and dissipate quickly. Chemtrails linger on, stretch across great distances and then spread out to form these fake hazey looking clouds. More evidence of YOUR ignorance about contrails. If the air is cold and humid enough (and remember, the colder the air, the less moisture it takes to saturate it), contrails WILL and MUST persist for hours. To claim that if a contrail persists for a length of time, it's a "chemtrail", is fucking stupid. And YOU are fucking stupid for not knowing that. To claim that a contrail must dissipate is like saying cirrus clouds shouldn't exist because they should dissipate. YOUR ignorance is comedy for me. Please keep it coming. Here is a video about books that have pointed out the ability of contrails to persist since before you were born. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] again, you are stupid. im not the one who reads a book and blindly believes it there is no proof in that video, only excerpts from books, that have no proof to back up their claims again you are brainwashed furthermore you say contrails spread out if there's enough humidity, and yet i live at high altitude and there's very little humidity here, yet I see chemtrails all the time i zoom in on planes and can physically see the chemicals being sprayed out you fail you lose go back to L---O---P Duncan, you are out of your league here buddy So, here's the question I have which I've never heard anyone ask or answer... I've searched online about the average temperature of the air, at any given time of the year, way up where jets fly at a cruising speed. After about 10,000 feet the air tempt is well below freezing and the higher up you go it's gets into the minus degree F. While I realize that moisture in the air can fluctuate at any given time and altitude, it looks like to me, at first glance, that no matter what time of the year it is the temperature is well below freezing and ALL passenger jets flying above 20k feet should have long persistent contrails, or chemtrail looking exhaust. But, you can consistently see, even in the heat of summer, that there are jets where some produce short trails and others produce long ones...from what appears to be roughly the same altitude. So, if the air temp is like -12 degree's at 20,000 feet and drops all the way to -69 degree's at 36,000 feet, then long persistent contrails should occur no matter what kind of jet is flying overhead. As far as I've read there is no explanation or details about how much water vapor etc., there is at any given altitude and exactly HOW sometimes it's a short contrail and sometimes an ALL DAY affair. I don't know if I'm explaining my question here very well...perhaps someone else knows where I'm going with this and has something to add to it?? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 10599025 United States 01/20/2020 11:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42079668 Nope 2 different things. Contrails are short and dissipate quickly. Chemtrails linger on, stretch across great distances and then spread out to form these fake hazey looking clouds. More evidence of YOUR ignorance about contrails. If the air is cold and humid enough (and remember, the colder the air, the less moisture it takes to saturate it), contrails WILL and MUST persist for hours. To claim that if a contrail persists for a length of time, it's a "chemtrail", is fucking stupid. And YOU are fucking stupid for not knowing that. To claim that a contrail must dissipate is like saying cirrus clouds shouldn't exist because they should dissipate. YOUR ignorance is comedy for me. Please keep it coming. Here is a video about books that have pointed out the ability of contrails to persist since before you were born. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] again, you are stupid. im not the one who reads a book and blindly believes it there is no proof in that video, only excerpts from books, that have no proof to back up their claims again you are brainwashed furthermore you say contrails spread out if there's enough humidity, and yet i live at high altitude and there's very little humidity here, yet I see chemtrails all the time i zoom in on planes and can physically see the chemicals being sprayed out you fail you lose go back to L---O---P Duncan, you are out of your league here buddy So, here's the question I have which I've never heard anyone ask or answer... I've searched online about the average temperature of the air, at any given time of the year, way up where jets fly at a cruising speed. After about 10,000 feet the air tempt is well below freezing and the higher up you go it's gets into the minus degree F. While I realize that moisture in the air can fluctuate at any given time and altitude, it looks like to me, at first glance, that no matter what time of the year it is the temperature is well below freezing and ALL passenger jets flying above 20k feet should have long persistent contrails, or chemtrail looking exhaust. But, you can consistently see, even in the heat of summer, that there are jets where some produce short trails and others produce long ones...from what appears to be roughly the same altitude. So, if the air temp is like -12 degree's at 20,000 feet and drops all the way to -69 degree's at 36,000 feet, then long persistent contrails should occur no matter what kind of jet is flying overhead. As far as I've read there is no explanation or details about how much water vapor etc., there is at any given altitude and exactly HOW sometimes it's a short contrail and sometimes an ALL DAY affair. I don't know if I'm explaining my question here very well...perhaps someone else knows where I'm going with this and has something to add to it?? WRONG! You are forgetting other variables like RHi! You are also forgetting the the engines PRODUCE water vapor! Think about it! If it isn't cold OR humid enough, trails won't persist! But, if the RHi in a given area is high enough, the trails MUST persist! Again, I love when people prove they are ignorant about a subject. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 50390711 United States 01/20/2020 11:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why isn't Trump ending chemtrails ? Because they dont exist, you stupid fuck. Chemtards [link to www.chemtards.net] |
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Magnison
User ID: 78196527 United States 01/20/2020 12:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10599025 More evidence of YOUR ignorance about contrails. If the air is cold and humid enough (and remember, the colder the air, the less moisture it takes to saturate it), contrails WILL and MUST persist for hours. To claim that if a contrail persists for a length of time, it's a "chemtrail", is fucking stupid. And YOU are fucking stupid for not knowing that. To claim that a contrail must dissipate is like saying cirrus clouds shouldn't exist because they should dissipate. YOUR ignorance is comedy for me. Please keep it coming. Here is a video about books that have pointed out the ability of contrails to persist since before you were born. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] again, you are stupid. im not the one who reads a book and blindly believes it there is no proof in that video, only excerpts from books, that have no proof to back up their claims again you are brainwashed furthermore you say contrails spread out if there's enough humidity, and yet i live at high altitude and there's very little humidity here, yet I see chemtrails all the time i zoom in on planes and can physically see the chemicals being sprayed out you fail you lose go back to L---O---P Duncan, you are out of your league here buddy So, here's the question I have which I've never heard anyone ask or answer... I've searched online about the average temperature of the air, at any given time of the year, way up where jets fly at a cruising speed. After about 10,000 feet the air tempt is well below freezing and the higher up you go it's gets into the minus degree F. While I realize that moisture in the air can fluctuate at any given time and altitude, it looks like to me, at first glance, that no matter what time of the year it is the temperature is well below freezing and ALL passenger jets flying above 20k feet should have long persistent contrails, or chemtrail looking exhaust. But, you can consistently see, even in the heat of summer, that there are jets where some produce short trails and others produce long ones...from what appears to be roughly the same altitude. So, if the air temp is like -12 degree's at 20,000 feet and drops all the way to -69 degree's at 36,000 feet, then long persistent contrails should occur no matter what kind of jet is flying overhead. As far as I've read there is no explanation or details about how much water vapor etc., there is at any given altitude and exactly HOW sometimes it's a short contrail and sometimes an ALL DAY affair. I don't know if I'm explaining my question here very well...perhaps someone else knows where I'm going with this and has something to add to it?? WRONG! You are forgetting other variables like RHi! You are also forgetting the the engines PRODUCE water vapor! Think about it! If it isn't cold OR humid enough, trails won't persist! But, if the RHi in a given area is high enough, the trails MUST persist! Again, I love when people prove they are ignorant about a subject. Uh dude...I was asking questions here...not being right or wrong. And, as usual, you offer no explanation about what RHi is and just offer a blanket statement without explanation. If people are ignorant about a subject, then that simply means they need to be informed, not given a snarky answer. And since you are SO informed, why not given us some details, in your own words, about the RHi is, and the conditions that cause a persistent contrail? Engines give off water vapor at ALL altitudes, and from what I've read, the air is DEFINITELY cold enough anywhere above 20k feet to freeze ANYTHING. So again, what is RHi, and please explain why ALL jets do not produce long lasting contrails when flying at temperatures that are in the extreme -0 temp? What are the variables for water vapor at such high altitudes and such extreme cold? |
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User ID: 78196527 United States 01/20/2020 12:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10599025 More evidence of YOUR ignorance about contrails. If the air is cold and humid enough (and remember, the colder the air, the less moisture it takes to saturate it), contrails WILL and MUST persist for hours. To claim that if a contrail persists for a length of time, it's a "chemtrail", is fucking stupid. And YOU are fucking stupid for not knowing that. To claim that a contrail must dissipate is like saying cirrus clouds shouldn't exist because they should dissipate. YOUR ignorance is comedy for me. Please keep it coming. Here is a video about books that have pointed out the ability of contrails to persist since before you were born. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] again, you are stupid. im not the one who reads a book and blindly believes it there is no proof in that video, only excerpts from books, that have no proof to back up their claims again you are brainwashed furthermore you say contrails spread out if there's enough humidity, and yet i live at high altitude and there's very little humidity here, yet I see chemtrails all the time i zoom in on planes and can physically see the chemicals being sprayed out you fail you lose go back to L---O---P Duncan, you are out of your league here buddy So, here's the question I have which I've never heard anyone ask or answer... I've searched online about the average temperature of the air, at any given time of the year, way up where jets fly at a cruising speed. After about 10,000 feet the air tempt is well below freezing and the higher up you go it's gets into the minus degree F. While I realize that moisture in the air can fluctuate at any given time and altitude, it looks like to me, at first glance, that no matter what time of the year it is the temperature is well below freezing and ALL passenger jets flying above 20k feet should have long persistent contrails, or chemtrail looking exhaust. But, you can consistently see, even in the heat of summer, that there are jets where some produce short trails and others produce long ones...from what appears to be roughly the same altitude. So, if the air temp is like -12 degree's at 20,000 feet and drops all the way to -69 degree's at 36,000 feet, then long persistent contrails should occur no matter what kind of jet is flying overhead. As far as I've read there is no explanation or details about how much water vapor etc., there is at any given altitude and exactly HOW sometimes it's a short contrail and sometimes an ALL DAY affair. I don't know if I'm explaining my question here very well...perhaps someone else knows where I'm going with this and has something to add to it?? WRONG! You are forgetting other variables like RHi! You are also forgetting the the engines PRODUCE water vapor! Think about it! If it isn't cold OR humid enough, trails won't persist! But, if the RHi in a given area is high enough, the trails MUST persist! Again, I love when people prove they are ignorant about a subject. And....as for "if it isn't cold enough or humid enough"....So, how cold is cold enough, and how humid is humid enough?? Humidity and -60 below 0 doesn't seem to go together in my unlearned mind right now. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78360482 United States 01/20/2020 12:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Because there is no such thing. And contrails occur naturally so he cant end them. Now grow up since you have been told the truth Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76509910 He is talking about chemtails shit-for-brains not contrails. What morons ASSUME are chemtrails ARE contrails, paranoid retard fearmongering cunt. I see reason to believe otherwise because those who say they are "chemtrails" ALWAYS end up proving they are ignorant about aviation and science, dumbass. I live in Los Angeles and have seen these with my own eyes; and your tiny IQ is going to tell me that air traffic controllers have planes flying in square box patterns? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 10599025 United States 01/20/2020 12:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42079668 im not the one who reads a book and blindly believes it there is no proof in that video, only excerpts from books, that have no proof to back up their claims again you are brainwashed furthermore you say contrails spread out if there's enough humidity, and yet i live at high altitude and there's very little humidity here, yet I see chemtrails all the time i zoom in on planes and can physically see the chemicals being sprayed out you fail you lose go back to L---O---P Duncan, you are out of your league here buddy So, here's the question I have which I've never heard anyone ask or answer... I've searched online about the average temperature of the air, at any given time of the year, way up where jets fly at a cruising speed. After about 10,000 feet the air tempt is well below freezing and the higher up you go it's gets into the minus degree F. While I realize that moisture in the air can fluctuate at any given time and altitude, it looks like to me, at first glance, that no matter what time of the year it is the temperature is well below freezing and ALL passenger jets flying above 20k feet should have long persistent contrails, or chemtrail looking exhaust. But, you can consistently see, even in the heat of summer, that there are jets where some produce short trails and others produce long ones...from what appears to be roughly the same altitude. So, if the air temp is like -12 degree's at 20,000 feet and drops all the way to -69 degree's at 36,000 feet, then long persistent contrails should occur no matter what kind of jet is flying overhead. As far as I've read there is no explanation or details about how much water vapor etc., there is at any given altitude and exactly HOW sometimes it's a short contrail and sometimes an ALL DAY affair. I don't know if I'm explaining my question here very well...perhaps someone else knows where I'm going with this and has something to add to it?? WRONG! You are forgetting other variables like RHi! You are also forgetting the the engines PRODUCE water vapor! Think about it! If it isn't cold OR humid enough, trails won't persist! But, if the RHi in a given area is high enough, the trails MUST persist! Again, I love when people prove they are ignorant about a subject. Uh dude...I was asking questions here...not being right or wrong. And, as usual, you offer no explanation about what RHi is and just offer a blanket statement without explanation. If people are ignorant about a subject, then that simply means they need to be informed, not given a snarky answer. And since you are SO informed, why not given us some details, in your own words, about the RHi is, and the conditions that cause a persistent contrail? Engines give off water vapor at ALL altitudes, and from what I've read, the air is DEFINITELY cold enough anywhere above 20k feet to freeze ANYTHING. So again, what is RHi, and please explain why ALL jets do not produce long lasting contrails when flying at temperatures that are in the extreme -0 temp? What are the variables for water vapor at such high altitudes and such extreme cold? Uh dude, I don't give a fuck about what you were doing. You did make ignorant statements about a subject you don't understand and I thought it was amusing. Sue me! You don't KNOW what the conditions are that are needed but you seem to already act like they couldn't be contrails. I write that based on your words! Ignorant doesn't mean stupid. I was simply pointed out, like you admitted, that you don't know! Cry about it! Why don't you already KNOW what RHi is? You went so far as to make public statements about your lack of knowledge about why all trails should persist, why haven't you learned about contrails first, and then rejected the science? It seems you just accepted the trails as "chemtrails" without looking into the whole other side, before you posted your ignorance. I think you can start your research into the contrail side of things all by yourself. I post links and chemtards ignore or can't understand them. But, I will post one this once, since you seem to be asking questions like a normal person and not making stupid assumptions. Try this: [link to citeseerx.ist.psu.edu] Within the article is everything needed to understand contrails and variables. Also, use the references to learn more. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 10599025 United States 01/20/2020 12:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Because there is no such thing. And contrails occur naturally so he cant end them. Now grow up since you have been told the truth Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76509910 He is talking about chemtails shit-for-brains not contrails. What morons ASSUME are chemtrails ARE contrails, paranoid retard fearmongering cunt. I see reason to believe otherwise because those who say they are "chemtrails" ALWAYS end up proving they are ignorant about aviation and science, dumbass. I live in Los Angeles and have seen these with my own eyes; and your tiny IQ is going to tell me that air traffic controllers have planes flying in square box patterns? Seeing something and understanding something are two completely unrelated concepts. Chemtards prove that with every post. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 10599025 United States 01/20/2020 12:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42079668 im not the one who reads a book and blindly believes it there is no proof in that video, only excerpts from books, that have no proof to back up their claims again you are brainwashed furthermore you say contrails spread out if there's enough humidity, and yet i live at high altitude and there's very little humidity here, yet I see chemtrails all the time i zoom in on planes and can physically see the chemicals being sprayed out you fail you lose go back to L---O---P Duncan, you are out of your league here buddy So, here's the question I have which I've never heard anyone ask or answer... I've searched online about the average temperature of the air, at any given time of the year, way up where jets fly at a cruising speed. After about 10,000 feet the air tempt is well below freezing and the higher up you go it's gets into the minus degree F. While I realize that moisture in the air can fluctuate at any given time and altitude, it looks like to me, at first glance, that no matter what time of the year it is the temperature is well below freezing and ALL passenger jets flying above 20k feet should have long persistent contrails, or chemtrail looking exhaust. But, you can consistently see, even in the heat of summer, that there are jets where some produce short trails and others produce long ones...from what appears to be roughly the same altitude. So, if the air temp is like -12 degree's at 20,000 feet and drops all the way to -69 degree's at 36,000 feet, then long persistent contrails should occur no matter what kind of jet is flying overhead. As far as I've read there is no explanation or details about how much water vapor etc., there is at any given altitude and exactly HOW sometimes it's a short contrail and sometimes an ALL DAY affair. I don't know if I'm explaining my question here very well...perhaps someone else knows where I'm going with this and has something to add to it?? WRONG! You are forgetting other variables like RHi! You are also forgetting the the engines PRODUCE water vapor! Think about it! If it isn't cold OR humid enough, trails won't persist! But, if the RHi in a given area is high enough, the trails MUST persist! Again, I love when people prove they are ignorant about a subject. And....as for "if it isn't cold enough or humid enough"....So, how cold is cold enough, and how humid is humid enough?? Humidity and -60 below 0 doesn't seem to go together in my unlearned mind right now. See link posted above. |
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User ID: 69359666 United States 01/20/2020 12:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He/she is not retarded. But chemtards certainly are! The trails exist, they are contrails though. Chemtard ignorance is VERY disturbing, considering how basic and simple the science that explains them is. In the REAL world,. chemtards are the retarded ones. That's just a fact. Real contrails don't grow into clouds, they disappear shortly after a plane passes. Go look at photos of the sky with planes taken in the 1960's. You'll be hard pressed to find anything resembling the junk in the sky now. It's going to be revealed that they were doing this "for our own good", which of course means to exterminate us. When you are afraid of losing your life, you have already lost your life. Don't be afraid. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 10599025 United States 01/20/2020 12:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42079668 im not the one who reads a book and blindly believes it there is no proof in that video, only excerpts from books, that have no proof to back up their claims again you are brainwashed furthermore you say contrails spread out if there's enough humidity, and yet i live at high altitude and there's very little humidity here, yet I see chemtrails all the time i zoom in on planes and can physically see the chemicals being sprayed out you fail you lose go back to L---O---P Duncan, you are out of your league here buddy So, here's the question I have which I've never heard anyone ask or answer... I've searched online about the average temperature of the air, at any given time of the year, way up where jets fly at a cruising speed. After about 10,000 feet the air tempt is well below freezing and the higher up you go it's gets into the minus degree F. While I realize that moisture in the air can fluctuate at any given time and altitude, it looks like to me, at first glance, that no matter what time of the year it is the temperature is well below freezing and ALL passenger jets flying above 20k feet should have long persistent contrails, or chemtrail looking exhaust. But, you can consistently see, even in the heat of summer, that there are jets where some produce short trails and others produce long ones...from what appears to be roughly the same altitude. So, if the air temp is like -12 degree's at 20,000 feet and drops all the way to -69 degree's at 36,000 feet, then long persistent contrails should occur no matter what kind of jet is flying overhead. As far as I've read there is no explanation or details about how much water vapor etc., there is at any given altitude and exactly HOW sometimes it's a short contrail and sometimes an ALL DAY affair. I don't know if I'm explaining my question here very well...perhaps someone else knows where I'm going with this and has something to add to it?? WRONG! You are forgetting other variables like RHi! You are also forgetting the the engines PRODUCE water vapor! Think about it! If it isn't cold OR humid enough, trails won't persist! But, if the RHi in a given area is high enough, the trails MUST persist! Again, I love when people prove they are ignorant about a subject. And....as for "if it isn't cold enough or humid enough"....So, how cold is cold enough, and how humid is humid enough?? Humidity and -60 below 0 doesn't seem to go together in my unlearned mind right now. Yeah, I can see that. At -60 the air is ABLE to hold less moisture than at warmer temperatures. So, it stands to reason that air at -60 can become SUPERSATURATED very quickly if water vapor were added, right? So, what happens to the extra moisture added by the jet engine in those areas? It's not absorbed by the very cold air..so what happens? Right, persistent contrail. It persists because the air is too cold to absorb such a large amount of water and if it's too cold, the trails can't evaporate either. Persistent contrail! |
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