Rats in Space | SpaceX CRS-19 Falcon 9 Launch TOTAL FAKE must watch!! | |
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Astroshill
Senior Forum Moderator 01/06/2020 09:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77176572 Dude we don’t follow the links because they’re all fake bs. Just like nasa There's a special place for NASA employees. Oh really? What's that? Do you really want to accuse me of lying? do you really want to go where this ends? Forget the rat, tell us something about the black plastic foil above the jet engine! Why didn't it melt and why is it flapping since there's no air? Forget the thing that you guys are hilariously wrong about? Not going to happen. I'm also not going to let you derail the thread. This will be the end of this part of the discussion. I'm pretty sure that foil isn't black to begin with, but do you really think that the rocket is completely free of vibrations as it burns its engine? What do you think vibrations will do to the foil? And since they are in space or at least at the edge of it, how much air is there to provide convective heating? Oh not much? well maybe that has something to do with the reason for the foil being there in the first place. If the main pathway for heating from the engine nozzle is radiative then putting reflective oil around the upper part of the engine will help protect it from overheating. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75758325 United States 01/06/2020 09:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I already explained this before you even posted the thread. If it’s real how do mice, live outside of earths atmosphere?? As shown running around from a recent launch? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78028677 They don't. That wasn't a mouse. It was ice sliding around the turbopump exhaust pipe. It happens all the time. Just because it looked "like a mouse" to you this time (CRS-19) doesn't mean it was literally a mouse. Here are other examples of it happening: 19:16, 22:49 [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] 19:14, 21:44 [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] 26:15 [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] 11:55 [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] 26:23 [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] They gave up on the subject after I posted that. For good reason! But you can't lie that, without any knowledge at all, OP did have a decent observation. |
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Astroshill
Senior Forum Moderator 01/06/2020 09:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Rat in the warehouse not ice in space. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73004681 Ice in a vacuum (such as supposed space) will sublimate, not evaporate. Sublimation is the transition directly from the solid phase to the gaseous phase. It did sublimate as I already said. You can see the ice start forming on the camera that's on the opposite side of the "mouse shot" at 41:12, just after the second stage ignites. By about 41:36 the ice has grown significantly in size. Around 42 minutes you can see it start separating from the vents and moving around the engine nozzle. At 42:10 when the camera switches to the opposite side again you can see the ice that had built up is no longer there; it has already separated and begun sliding around the nozzle. Quoting: Astroshill You can also see it sublimate away over time. |
Astroshill
Senior Forum Moderator 01/06/2020 09:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was always skeptic about claims that NASA is faking space footage but this time I can't deny the rat that is walking on the engine. Just skip forward to 01:04:24 and see for yourself. Quoting: MAYAMAGIK I dont see it. They've already edited the video. First of all, that is not the official SpaceX channel. Secondly, they have not changed the original video. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 13455469 United States 01/06/2020 09:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I agree with Astro. Quoting: superflyscot But i still want to believe it's a giant rat, just for shits and giggles. :muttley: I find it interesting that the examples given look nothing like the actual rodent walking on the engine, and that the clip cuts away the second they noticed the rodent. Where is the rest of that camera angle showing the It's not an actual rodent and it looks exactly the same. The only difference is the shape of the ice. thank you for proving you didn't actually watch the other examples since you apparently still don't realize that the camera cuts back and forth between two angles on the second stage all the time constantly on every launch. I already showed the sped up video where you can see it dissipating away. You can see the ice start forming on the camera that's on the opposite side of the "mouse shot" at 41:12, just after the second stage ignites. By about 41:36 the ice has grown significantly in size. Around 42 minutes you can see it start separating from the vents and moving around the engine nozzle. At 42:10 when the camera switches to the opposite side again you can see the ice that had built up is no longer there; it has already separated and begun sliding around the nozzle. Quoting: Astroshill You can also see it sublimate away over time. Please direct me to the clip of the camera angle that does not cut away, what I mean specifically is OP's diagnosis of rat. You seem to know just where each particular bit of footage is, and I would like to see what happens to the object in question, as the footage does cut away before we see the dissipation, sublimation or ejectment of the rat ice mouse. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75993659 Canada 01/06/2020 09:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was always skeptic about claims that NASA is faking space footage but this time I can't deny the rat that is walking on the engine. Just skip forward to 01:04:24 and see for yourself. Quoting: MAYAMAGIK I dont see it. They've already edited the video. Nevermind. Its not at the time indicated. Its at 1:04:36 not 01:04:24 It's definitely a rat, thats why they quickly switched camera views. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77660835 United States 01/06/2020 09:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was always skeptic about claims that NASA is faking space footage but this time I can't deny the rat that is walking on the engine. Just skip forward to 01:04:24 and see for yourself. Quoting: MAYAMAGIK There is NOTHING that even remotely looks like a rat or anything else in that video. Meth is not your friend. That is not a rat its part of the craft. If it is a "rat" its a space alien rat that doesn't look like anything from earth. However, Its not anything like that. Watch it over and over. Its just a piece of the craft. Its a little T shape with a line on it.(edit apparently its ice) |
Astroshill
Senior Forum Moderator 01/06/2020 09:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was always skeptic about claims that NASA is faking space footage but this time I can't deny the rat that is walking on the engine. Just skip forward to 01:04:24 and see for yourself. Quoting: MAYAMAGIK I dont see it. They've already edited the video. Nevermind. Its not at the time indicated. Its at 1:04:36 not 01:04:24 It's definitely a rat, thats why they quickly switched camera views. No it's not. It's ice which happens every time they launch. they switch camera views every time they launch. They constantly switch between two cameras on the second stage every single time. Try actually doing your research. That doesn't mean grasp it things that you think confirm what you believe, that means actually dig into older videos and see if it holds up. |
Astroshill
Senior Forum Moderator 01/06/2020 09:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I agree with Astro. Quoting: superflyscot But i still want to believe it's a giant rat, just for shits and giggles. I find it interesting that the examples given look nothing like the actual rodent walking on the engine, and that the clip cuts away the second they noticed the rodent. Where is the rest of that camera angle showing the It's not an actual rodent and it looks exactly the same. The only difference is the shape of the ice. thank you for proving you didn't actually watch the other examples since you apparently still don't realize that the camera cuts back and forth between two angles on the second stage all the time constantly on every launch. I already showed the sped up video where you can see it dissipating away. You can see the ice start forming on the camera that's on the opposite side of the "mouse shot" at 41:12, just after the second stage ignites. By about 41:36 the ice has grown significantly in size. Around 42 minutes you can see it start separating from the vents and moving around the engine nozzle. At 42:10 when the camera switches to the opposite side again you can see the ice that had built up is no longer there; it has already separated and begun sliding around the nozzle. Quoting: Astroshill You can also see it sublimate away over time. Please direct me to the clip of the camera angle that does not cut away, what I mean specifically is OP's diagnosis of rat. You seem to know just where each particular bit of footage is, and I would like to see what happens to the object in question, as the footage does cut away before we see the dissipation, sublimation or ejectment of the rat ice mouse. they don't cut away. They cut back and forth between two cameras over and over. They do this every time. They do this every launch. They do this in every single one of their launch videos. They do this every single launch. They do this every single time. It cuts back and forth between two cameras on the second stage. The second video I already linked you to shows the dissipation occurring by only showing the camera angle that has the ice on it. I have already explained this over and over. Try actually reading my posts. |
Astroshill
Senior Forum Moderator 01/06/2020 10:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would really like to hear it.. Me too. It s HUUUUUGE!!! then read the thread. I've already explained it and people are getting tired of me explaining it but I guess I'll have to copy myself again. For the love of Christ, how could there be ICE just above the intense heat from those rockets? Quoting: Blue State Rebel That's a fucking animal, we're NOT that stupid. Then explain why it happens on every launch and why it's coming from the fuel vent and why it's sublimates away. 19:16, 22:49 [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] 19:14, 21:44 [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] 26:15 [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] 11:55 [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] 26:23 [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Come on dude. Why can't you address the evidence? Why are you ignoring The fact this ice breaks off from the fuel vent and slides around the engine every time? Because I can SEE that that is a rodent. And no ice would survive those rockets. Just a bunch of bullshit from NASA to save FakeX. Nope. You think it's a rodent but it's not. And it doesn't survive. It gradually sublimates away. You can see the ice start forming on the camera that's on the opposite side of the "mouse shot" at 41:12, just after the second stage ignites. By about 41:36 the ice has grown significantly in size. Around 42 minutes you can see it start separating from the vents and moving around the engine nozzle. At 42:10 when the camera switches to the opposite side again you can see the ice that had built up is no longer there; it has already separated and begun sliding around the nozzle. Quoting: Astroshill You can also see it sublimate away over time. Is it also a rodent on all these previous launches, or is it just ice coming off the fuel vent? 19:16, 22:49 [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] 19:14, 21:44 [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] 26:15 [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] 11:55 [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] 26:23 [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Follow the links go to the timestamps I specified and answer me. |
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User ID: 75358302 Brazil 01/06/2020 10:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We live in scary times. People are in denial of reality because they choose so. Its as if being a retard is the new trend. And the method of their "thinking" is always the same: - They see X - They conclude X is Y, with no basis at all, just their "common sense" and their "brains" - Someone clarify to them that X is not Y - The one explaining is labeled instantly as "shill", paid by someone to go to the internet and say it. - No matter what, they are right, simply by the fact that there are "shills", which means they are on "the right track" for the "truth" And these people are now getting into power. They hold actual decision positions. Its really, really scary. MaybeTrollingUAgain |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 13455469 United States 01/06/2020 10:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13455469 I find it interesting that the examples given look nothing like the actual rodent walking on the engine, and that the clip cuts away the second they noticed the rodent. Where is the rest of that camera angle showing the It's not an actual rodent and it looks exactly the same. The only difference is the shape of the ice. thank you for proving you didn't actually watch the other examples since you apparently still don't realize that the camera cuts back and forth between two angles on the second stage all the time constantly on every launch. I already showed the sped up video where you can see it dissipating away. You can see the ice start forming on the camera that's on the opposite side of the "mouse shot" at 41:12, just after the second stage ignites. By about 41:36 the ice has grown significantly in size. Around 42 minutes you can see it start separating from the vents and moving around the engine nozzle. At 42:10 when the camera switches to the opposite side again you can see the ice that had built up is no longer there; it has already separated and begun sliding around the nozzle. Quoting: Astroshill You can also see it sublimate away over time. Please direct me to the clip of the camera angle that does not cut away, what I mean specifically is OP's diagnosis of rat. You seem to know just where each particular bit of footage is, and I would like to see what happens to the object in question, as the footage does cut away before we see the dissipation, sublimation or ejectment of the rat ice mouse. they don't cut away. They cut back and forth between two cameras over and over. They do this every time. They do this every launch. They do this in every single one of their launch videos. They do this every single launch. They do this every single time. It cuts back and forth between two cameras on the second stage. The second video I already linked you to shows the dissipation occurring by only showing the camera angle that has the ice on it. I have already explained this over and over. Try actually reading my posts. The second video you linked to is dated July 25, 2019. OP's video is dated December 05, 2019. That doesn't really help in any way, perhaps I need to be more clear. Where is the continuous video of the camera angle showing the raticemouse? The.same.feed.as.OP.provided. By continuous I mean does not switch to a different angle, is not a different example of a different mission, and exhibits continuity, as in an uninterrupted video feed of the same scene, showing what happens to the raticemouse. If it's not available, as in in Spacex's storage vault for all eternity, that fine as well. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74131615 United States 01/06/2020 10:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Official statement from NASA on the phenomenon: "Well, we used to have the technology to keep space rats off of our rockets, like back in the 60s, but we lost that technology. We'd love to have it back, but it's very hard to rebuild. I'd keep space rats off our rockets in a heartbeat if we could, but we just don't have the ability anymore." |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78228392 Lithuania 01/06/2020 10:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was always skeptic about claims that NASA is faking space footage but this time I can't deny the rat that is walking on the engine. Just skip forward to 01:04:24 and see for yourself. Quoting: MAYAMAGIK I dont see it. They've already edited the video. That’s because it’s 3 seconds after time he posted ... and that’s not a rat ... just something sliding though I can see why he thought that |
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The Old Timer
User ID: 78013351 United States 01/06/2020 10:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't think ICE has ears!!! Lets go Brandon!! What doesn't kill us...makes us more interesting Either you live for something worth dying for....or you rot away and die on the installment plan quote: Mr Bill when I post something....I will remove any post I find disrespectful or offensive..... |
Huflungpu
User ID: 73805232 United States 01/06/2020 10:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lmfao a rat ... ok.... when some one says rat your mind is already primed to see a rat ... that is not a rat Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78228392 I agree. The ears are disproportionately large, it's definitely a mouse. Space rats have larger ears. Yin and yang is never ending because if it did so would everything..... |
Astroshill
Senior Forum Moderator 01/06/2020 10:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Astroshill It's not an actual rodent and it looks exactly the same. The only difference is the shape of the ice. thank you for proving you didn't actually watch the other examples since you apparently still don't realize that the camera cuts back and forth between two angles on the second stage all the time constantly on every launch. I already showed the sped up video where you can see it dissipating away. ... Please direct me to the clip of the camera angle that does not cut away, what I mean specifically is OP's diagnosis of rat. You seem to know just where each particular bit of footage is, and I would like to see what happens to the object in question, as the footage does cut away before we see the dissipation, sublimation or ejectment of the rat ice mouse. they don't cut away. They cut back and forth between two cameras over and over. They do this every time. They do this every launch. They do this in every single one of their launch videos. They do this every single launch. They do this every single time. It cuts back and forth between two cameras on the second stage. The second video I already linked you to shows the dissipation occurring by only showing the camera angle that has the ice on it. I have already explained this over and over. Try actually reading my posts. The second video you linked to is dated July 25, 2019. OP's video is dated December 05, 2019. That doesn't really help in any way, perhaps I need to be more clear. You're a liar. This video is dated January 2nd, 2020, not July 25, 2019. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] This is about the same clip mentioned by the OP. Where is the continuous video of the camera angle showing the raticemouse? The.same.feed.as.OP.provided. Quoting: LiarRight here. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Lie about the date of this video again and you're done here. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78297075 United States 01/06/2020 10:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A drag queen could walk across the engine and Dr Doofus would make 30 posts of his ISS fakeage and scream the drag queen is space fluffledust and you're all morons. Ice. The science religion causes serious blindness to their dogmatic believers. |
Astroshill
Senior Forum Moderator 01/06/2020 10:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | LMAO ... the mouse actually comes out at 1:04:35 - 1:04:38. Then they realize, o fuck, and notice the frame change to a different view at 1:04:39. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72667592 Fuckers caught red-handed. Sorry, AstroShill. They swap between two camera angles on the second stage on every single launch. Ice slides around the turbopump exhaust pipe on every launch. They weren't "caught" doing anything. This is normal. 19:16, 22:49 [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] 19:14, 21:44 [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] 26:15 [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] 11:55 [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] 26:23 [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] It's amazing the level of ignorance on display here, both of the ice and the NORMAL camera angles visible on these launches. |