Kirby Forensic Psychiatric Center in New York City has long been a place of mystery, with little known about what goes on behind the razor-wire f

Oh, who had the great idea of:

transfering "the facility’s more than 200 prisoners, including 50 deemed criminally insane, from a fortresslike building with bars on the windows and cement walls and ceilings into a unit of Manhattan Psychiatric Center, a civilian hospital close by on Wards Island". A hospital 'never designed to handle a population with a criminal background'.

“These are not normal mental patients,” said Catherine Mortiere, a forensic psychologist at Kirby. “They are some of the most violent inmates in the state.”

:jd_gahh: What could possibly go wrong?? :jd_gahh:

:jd-L_noendwell:

oooooooo puuuuhleeeeeeez.

kirby's been around since the '50s and the same as the rest of them wound up a hell hole due to no enforcement of occupancy and staff /patient ratio.
why the hell this is what happens defies logic.

""not NORMAL "" psych patients"
as a quote from a FORENSICS shrink ?
whatttsa matta sweetheart ? no sedation and MAINTENANCE regime on the island ?
no psychotropics ?
no more discipline w/ double locked doors as the norm ?
those gates ? snowflakes soiling their pants at the sight of secured areas ?
are the inmates running the place ?
let's get real,OK ?
let's begin with the designated sections of Manhattan State
that ALWAYS had a seperate freeeeeekin unit for forensics-along w/their other units.
...went thru there as a part of a nursing school rotation for psych. 3 days a week back in the early 70s when you still received an authentic hands on exposure to nursing.

Definitely there are worse freely roaming the subways and streets of nyc.

PS-double locked means 2 distinct areas-- w/locked doors to pass through for entry along w/kirby having ceiling to floor gates to begin with.
MOST psych units HAVE the 2 distinct ,connected BY locked doors to begin with simply for entry,
elopement precautions on and on.
so now there are forensics ? huh ? what ?

No need to 'shoot the messenger'. What is posted there are quotes taken from the link the OP provided. Go there and take it up with the NYTimes.

And I ain't your sweetheart. :jd_fencing:

Altho I do get your points made. They still are planning this change, despite the risks, etc.

No mention made, of course, in the article, of what they intend TO DO with the island the Kirby Psych Center sits on. Sure must be some valuable real estate right there. Think of how many ultra-luxurious condos for the very wealthy could be squeezed onto that island.. rather than a place for the mentally ill and homeless that currently reside there.