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LIVE HEARING:Senate Judiciary Chairman Lindsey Graham Examing IG Horiwitz Report on Alleded Abuses of FISA report Wed Dec 11@1pm ET pt 2 L

 
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It's either incompetence or intent.

H: agree

then which is it?!?!?!?!?!
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How about this question: In the 17 documented issues of improper conduct, were there any individuals that were involved in more than one of these violations of conduct/policy/procedure, and can you name them?
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LG chewing him a new asshole.
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NO. Is a complete sentence.
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Lindsey Graham...this is the beginning not the end.
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LG chewing him a new asshole.
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I agreed with him but don't trust him.
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Is Lindsey the most successful MKultra subject yet.?

That's one of the reasons they created them , to be perfect recorders of information , yet able to switch between dynamically opposing standpoints at the whisper or call of a handler, and they themselves are totally unaware of the other sub personalities.

It's the only way I can come up with to explain his extraordinary divergent and differing positions , sometimes on the same day.
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Maybe Lindsay did hear us on the length of time of this investigation showing political bias and election meddling all on its own.
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Kennedy

FBI has some bad actors..

15% way through I want to heave. reading the report..

It's surreal.

How many members comprised the misfire hurricane team. 3 teams half a dozen to a dozen and a more with supervisors.

How many are still in the FBI. Many in the Upper levels not still there. How many are still on FISA application? Not sure.

Hard to get fired. Orr is still employed.

Report does not vindicate Comey.
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Sen Kennedy is the Mr. Haney of Green Acres. But I still love listening to him. cool2
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Lindsey is a girl
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How does one change an email from yes to no...then present that falsified evidence to a judge BY ACCIDENT???

Intent...pfffffft!
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well. Thanks for letting me spam the place. I am snowed in so I appreciate bugging everyone today!

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well. Thanks for letting me spam the place. I am snowed in so I appreciate bugging everyone today!

hf
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Glad you were here, hope you don't have a heavy snow to shovel
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well. Thanks for letting me spam the place. I am snowed in so I appreciate bugging everyone today!

hf
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cheers
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well. Thanks for letting me spam the place. I am snowed in so I appreciate bugging everyone today!

hf
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Glad you were here, hope you don't have a heavy snow to shovel
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The snow is not too bad but I live on a hill.


Thank you!

Thanks CK Dexter Haven!

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How does one change an email from yes to no...then present that falsified evidence to a judge BY ACCIDENT???

Intent...pfffffft!
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Ted Bundy accidentally killed all those people don't you know and Hitler accidentally gased all those people.
Hillary accidentally bleach- bit those e- mails and smashed cell phones.

And we accidentally forgot to pay taxation for the rest of our lives , no crime there either ehhh?
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And we accidentally forgot to pay taxation for the rest of our lives , no crime there either ehhh?

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Oh how I'd love to try that one...but MY ass would be thrown in prison!
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From an impartial perspective I found Horowitz testimony to be devastating to deep state. It was worse than I thought. If the law is applied to just these facts now in evidence in an ipartial manner the democrats are going down. Their defense was vapid and did not address the evidence he laid upon the table.

Verdict...democrats Guilty on all counts.
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Now that she destroyed the word spying she is leading questions with the word spying to get the answers she wants.

sigh
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She needs to work at a manicure shop and just do nails all day. She can ask the same questions 40 times until she gets the answer she wants. Do you want the deluxe special today? It’s free if you pay twenty dollah.
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:racist5: He He ha ha
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Just watched the whole thing,...my this was a huge vendication for Trump. The dems are sucking thumb. Their Ukraine, Guiliani fear is thick. My gosh how foolish the dems look right now. Total egg on their faces!
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And we accidentally forgot to pay taxation for the rest of our lives , no crime there either ehhh?

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Oh how I'd love to try that one...but MY ass would be thrown in prison!
 Quoting: Mental Case


You see right there sits the double standard that in past history has been the seed of revolution.

When one group is presumed above the law and the other is financially suppressed because of it.

Let US eat cake in celebration of these legal and balanced outcomes.

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Just watched the whole thing,...my this was a huge vendication for Trump. The dems are sucking thumb. Their Ukraine, Guiliani fear is thick. My gosh how foolish the dems look right now. Total egg on their faces!
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You got it. Rudy has got evidence that is admissible to charge crimes and major felony. It is hard to charge these crooks with legalized crimes under the protections afforded Federal LEOS and Attorneys work products. That is their fear factor now. They will have to try and Kill the Messenger by arresting him for something or other.
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This hearing was ...fascinating...
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Hearings, the final resting place for issues that must be put to rest, for the good of the country of course. Americans are thrown a little spittle to shut em up so the game can keep being played.


3yrs, millions of dollars, investigations, overthrow of a presidency, ect ect.


And this is what Americans get, a 5hr soft hearing, and no Fact Witnesses that are in the report did not even have to testify, no evidence such as fisa docs for Americans to make their own judgement ?

And now its over, farewell USA. What a big Fail.

Now we know how the Impeachment Trial will go, one way or another it will be squashed.
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To whom do you credit for exposing this treasonous affair and driving it home?

for me it began on Hannity via Joe Degenova,Victoria Toensing Sara Carter, John Soloman, Gregg Jarett
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Re: LIVE HEARING:Senate Judiciary Chairman Lindsey Graham Examing IG Horiwitz Report on Alleded Abuses of FISA report Wed Dec 11@1pm ET pt 2 L
I am on a huge delay watching this.

I have a couple questions.

If this is just gross incompetence and wrong, wouldn't all other FISA's that these people worked on be reviewed?

If the are reviewed and found to be without fault, wouldn't that insinuate purposeful negligence?

If those other FISA's are reviewed and found with fault, wouldn't help nullify any convictions that were gotten with those FISA's?

I always thought people who hold posts in government that need to show no bias or the optic of no bias should never donate or take a public political stance.

Wouldn't donations either given or received by those holding posts or family members, in the least show some sort of bias?

Have those involved in the mistakes in the FISA's been checked out for donations?
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Re: LIVE HEARING:Senate Judiciary Chairman Lindsey Graham Examing IG Horiwitz Report on Alleded Abuses of FISA report Wed Dec 11@1pm ET pt 2 L
I am on a huge delay watching this.

I have a couple questions.

If this is just gross incompetence and wrong, wouldn't all other FISA's that these people worked on be reviewed?

If the are reviewed and found to be without fault, wouldn't that insinuate purposeful negligence?

If those other FISA's are reviewed and found with fault, wouldn't help nullify any convictions that were gotten with those FISA's?

I always thought people who hold posts in government that need to show no bias or the optic of no bias should never donate or take a public political stance.

Wouldn't donations either given or received by those holding posts or family members, in the least show some sort of bias?

Have those involved in the mistakes in the FISA's been checked out for donations?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69540926


We learned today that you must submit in writing a confession of bias.

Texting things like he is not ever to be President or we will stop him and this is an insurance policy do not reveal your mindset or any inclination of bias.

Three teams of over a dozen people, the very best of the FBI did not know how to follow standard process.


But not to worry the FISA court can be trusted to surveillance you.. don't say spy that is offensive to them and a bad legal term.. 98% of Fisa request move forward!


We probably all qualify for surveillance in one form or another.


The people that did this appear to still be employed.

They did not discuss looking back at other cases.
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I am on a huge delay watching this.

I have a couple questions.

If this is just gross incompetence and wrong, wouldn't all other FISA's that these people worked on be reviewed?

If the are reviewed and found to be without fault, wouldn't that insinuate purposeful negligence?

If those other FISA's are reviewed and found with fault, wouldn't help nullify any convictions that were gotten with those FISA's?

I always thought people who hold posts in government that need to show no bias or the optic of no bias should never donate or take a public political stance.

Wouldn't donations either given or received by those holding posts or family members, in the least show some sort of bias?

Have those involved in the mistakes in the FISA's been checked out for donations?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69540926


We learned today that you must submit in writing a confession of bias.

Texting things like he is not ever to be President or we will stop him and this is an insurance policy do not reveal your mindset or any inclination of bias.

Three teams of over a dozen people, the very best of the FBI did not know how to follow standard process.


But not to worry the FISA court can be trusted to surveillance you.. don't say spy that is offensive to them and a bad legal term.. 98% of Fisa request move forward!


We probably all qualify for surveillance in one form or another.


The people that did this appear to still be employed.

They did not discuss looking back at other cases.
 Quoting: Aubrey Clare


Have a piece of cake.
hf
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Re: LIVE HEARING:Senate Judiciary Chairman Lindsey Graham Examing IG Horiwitz Report on Alleded Abuses of FISA report Wed Dec 11@1pm ET pt 2 L
I am on a huge delay watching this.

I have a couple questions.

If this is just gross incompetence and wrong, wouldn't all other FISA's that these people worked on be reviewed?

If the are reviewed and found to be without fault, wouldn't that insinuate purposeful negligence?

If those other FISA's are reviewed and found with fault, wouldn't help nullify any convictions that were gotten with those FISA's?

I always thought people who hold posts in government that need to show no bias or the optic of no bias should never donate or take a public political stance.

Wouldn't donations either given or received by those holding posts or family members, in the least show some sort of bias?

Have those involved in the mistakes in the FISA's been checked out for donations?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69540926


We learned today that you must submit in writing a confession of bias.


Texting things like he is not ever to be President or we will stop him and this is an insurance policy do not reveal your mindset or any inclination of bias.

Three teams of over a dozen people, the very best of the FBI did not know how to follow standard process.


But not to worry the FISA court can be trusted to surveillance you.. don't say spy that is offensive to them and a bad legal term.. 98% of Fisa request move forward!


We probably all qualify for surveillance in one form or another.


The people that did this appear to still be employed.

They did not discuss looking back at other cases.
 Quoting: Aubrey Clare


Man that really sucks.

This is like Bizarro World.
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I am on a huge delay watching this.

I have a couple questions.

If this is just gross incompetence and wrong, wouldn't all other FISA's that these people worked on be reviewed?

If the are reviewed and found to be without fault, wouldn't that insinuate purposeful negligence?

If those other FISA's are reviewed and found with fault, wouldn't help nullify any convictions that were gotten with those FISA's?

I always thought people who hold posts in government that need to show no bias or the optic of no bias should never donate or take a public political stance.

Wouldn't donations either given or received by those holding posts or family members, in the least show some sort of bias?

Have those involved in the mistakes in the FISA's been checked out for donations?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69540926


We learned today that you must submit in writing a confession of bias.


Texting things like he is not ever to be President or we will stop him and this is an insurance policy do not reveal your mindset or any inclination of bias.

Three teams of over a dozen people, the very best of the FBI did not know how to follow standard process.


But not to worry the FISA court can be trusted to surveillance you.. don't say spy that is offensive to them and a bad legal term.. 98% of Fisa request move forward!


We probably all qualify for surveillance in one form or another.


The people that did this appear to still be employed.

They did not discuss looking back at other cases.
 Quoting: Aubrey Clare


Man that really sucks.

This is like Bizarro World.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69540926


Yep , there's a reality of balanced application of the law and sane approaches to society that some remember , almost like another world and then there is this!!!
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