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Could the 1800’s hold some clues to what we will experience during this upcoming Solar Minimum?!?!

 
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Could the 1800’s hold some clues to what we will experience during this upcoming Solar Minimum?!?!
I am working on researching the 1800's. Many things happened in that century that could give us a clue to what is coming except maybe worse this go round. Could it be possible, that our binary twin made a close approach back then and perhaps draining the sun of energy (solar minimum)/ The Dalton Minimum. Or perhaps, the sun cycles normally with no external cause. Whatever the cause is, NASA is saying that it looks like we are entering a Grand Solar Minimum. [link to abruptearthchanges.com (secure)]

The New Madrid went off 1811-1812 [link to www.new-madrid.mo.us]

The Year Without a Summer happened in 1816...this happened during a grand solar minimum which also correlates to higher than normal volcanic activity: "The dust from Mount Tambora, which had erupted in early April 1815, had shrouded the globe. And with sunlight blocked, 1816 did not have a normal summer". [link to www.thoughtco.com (secure)]

The Leonid Meteor Shower Storm event happened in 1833. The great star shower took place on the night of November 13, 1833. It was so bright that a newspaper could be read on the street. One writer says, "For nearly four hours the sky was literally ablaze." [link to www.finalevents.com]

The Carrington Event happened on September 1, 1859 where telegraphs went down but also the skies were so crimson that it appeared the skies were on fire and the Northern Lights were seen as far south as Cuba.

Then the same sky event happened in 1872 like the Carrington 1859 event, except it was more extreme. It happened in February 1872 when Auroras were seen all the way down to Cuba again. [link to www.sciencedirect.com (secure)] If you research this event, there is reports on the internet where people thought the world was coming to an end.

The Locust Plague of 1874 caused massive damage and starvation in the Midwest U.S. It is estimated that there were from 124 billion up to 12.5 trillion locusts. “They ate their way across the Midwest, cutting a swath 110 miles wide and 1,800 miles long.” “…whole families starved to death as the hungry little monsters caused a ridiculous amount of damage to the farming industry. The greedy insects ate wooden tools, leather saddles, and even clothes that were still being worn. Chickens devoured the locusts, but this turned their eggs and meat oily and downright nasty. Dead bugs and bug poop coated everything with what looked like an oil slick...” [link to www.grunge.com (secure)]

Many explanations of what happened during that century is due to increased solar winds and solar minimum. I say something perturbed the sun like it is about to do again, but maybe this time it will be way worse.

I am just getting into researching this and what led me on this path was this video, from The Real BPEarthWatch, [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] . Also, I was watching the weather channel and they were talking about the 1872 event which got me to thinking that maybe there are correlations between the 1800’s event and Grand Solar Minimum. The 1800's could offer a clue to what is coming. In the 1800’s they also had the dust bowl event that was supposedly the fault of the farmers, but I am sure all in that century felt like the world was ending. Maybe the 1800's were a forewarning of what is to come.

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Preceding the 1800’s

1755 -The Great Earthquake
“In the year 1755 occurred the most terrible earthquake that has ever been recorded. Though commonly known as the earthquake of Lisbon, it extended to the greater part of Europe, Africa, and America. It was felt in Greenland, in the West Indies, in the island of Madeira, in Norway and Sweden, Great Britain and Ireland. It pervaded an extent of not less than four million square miles. In Africa the shock was almost as severe as in Europe. A great part of Algiers was destroyed; and a short distance from Morocco, a village containing eight or ten thousand inhabitants was swallowed up. A vast wave swept over the coast of Spain and Africa, engulfing cities, and causing great destruction.”
[link to www.finalevents.com]

1780 -Sun Turned into Darkness
The Dark Day
"Almost if not altogether alone as the most mysterious and as yet unexplained phenomenon of its kind, . . . stands the dark day of May 19, 1780,--a most unaccountable darkening of the whole visible heavens and atmosphere in New England." That the darkness was not due to an eclipse is evident from the fact that the moon was then nearly full. It was not caused by clouds, or the thickness of the atmosphere, for in some localities where the darkness extended, the sky was so clear that the stars could be seen. Concerning the inability of science to assign a satisfactory cause for this manifestation, Herschel the astronomer declares: "The dark day in North America was one of those wonderful phenomena of nature which philosophy is at a loss to explain."

"The morning was clear and pleasant, but about eight o'clock there was observed an uncommon appearance in the sun. There were no clouds, but the air was thick, having a smoky appearance, and the sun shone with a pale, yellowish hue, but kept growing darker and darker, until it was hid from sight." There was "midnight darkness at noonday."

“…Though the moon that night rose to the full, "it had not the least effect to dispel the death-like shadows." After midnight the darkness disappeared, and the moon, when first visible, had the appearance of blood.
[link to www.finalevents.com]

It is interesting to note, that in the mid 1500 a lot of interesting events happened during GSM. Then 200-300 years later it started all over again. [link to youtu.be (secure)]
In the above video at 14:10 minutes in, there is a chart showing the different solar minimums and how they related to the strange weather events. Everything got really strange in the 1500's when they were approaching a grand solar minimum.
In the 1800's when they were fully into the minimum (Dalton minimum) things went really crazy.

There are many more events like this, but for sake of the topic at hand, I am going to stick with the 1800’s since it is the most recent events for us to look back on.
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Do these upcoming events relate to Bible Prophecy???

People in the 1800’s may have thought the world was coming to an end and many did believe that. However, they were missing the sign of Israel being a nation. That has only come about in our time in 1948.
Matthew 24: 31And He will send out His angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather His elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other. 32Now learn this lesson from the fig tree: As soon as its branches become tender and sprout leaves, you know that summer is near. 33So also, when you see all these things, you will know that He is near, right at the door. 34Truly I tell you, this generation will not pass away until all these things have happened. 35Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will never pass away.…

Also, today we have the technology for the beast and the image of the beast via quantum computing and A.I. technology that was not possible back then.

What is to come will be on a grander scale than ever before as it says in the Bible that we never have seen a time like this or ever will we.
Matthew 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

The 1500’s, the 1800’s can offer us a clue of what is to come, but Matthew 24:21 tells us that what is to come on us is worse and has not come on the world ever.
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This thread leaves a lot to think on and for me it has been a rabbit hole type experience. I am still researching and coming across information.
I only posted it here because, what is information, if you keep it to yourself. So, I am sharing it with you all.

The other areas I want to research are what events happened worldwide in the 1800’s. Much of my research is focused on the U.S., but I am sure there are a lot more interesting things that went on worldwide during this time period. If you have anything to add, please do.
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Welcome to the new ice age.
I am SNOWIE. WELCOME TO THE NEW ICE AGE. TRY NOT TO STARVE.
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Welcome to the new ice age.
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We are not even officially in Winter and already it looks pretty bad.
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Great thread NOLA, not surprised since you posted it--lol

I really could have done without the locust story--scary stuff for sure.

Let's hope that we do not break any historical records with the events unfolding upon us.

Happy holidays to you and yours.
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Re: Could the 1800’s hold some clues to what we will experience during this upcoming Solar Minimum?!?!
Preceding the 1800’s

1755 -The Great Earthquake
“In the year 1755 occurred the most terrible earthquake that has ever been recorded. Though commonly known as the earthquake of Lisbon, it extended to the greater part of Europe, Africa, and America. It was felt in Greenland, in the West Indies, in the island of Madeira, in Norway and Sweden, Great Britain and Ireland. It pervaded an extent of not less than four million square miles. In Africa the shock was almost as severe as in Europe. A great part of Algiers was destroyed; and a short distance from Morocco, a village containing eight or ten thousand inhabitants was swallowed up. A vast wave swept over the coast of Spain and Africa, engulfing cities, and causing great destruction.”
[link to www.finalevents.com]

1780 -Sun Turned into Darkness
The Dark Day
"Almost if not altogether alone as the most mysterious and as yet unexplained phenomenon of its kind, . . . stands the dark day of May 19, 1780,--a most unaccountable darkening of the whole visible heavens and atmosphere in New England." That the darkness was not due to an eclipse is evident from the fact that the moon was then nearly full. It was not caused by clouds, or the thickness of the atmosphere, for in some localities where the darkness extended, the sky was so clear that the stars could be seen. Concerning the inability of science to assign a satisfactory cause for this manifestation, Herschel the astronomer declares: "The dark day in North America was one of those wonderful phenomena of nature which philosophy is at a loss to explain."

"The morning was clear and pleasant, but about eight o'clock there was observed an uncommon appearance in the sun. There were no clouds, but the air was thick, having a smoky appearance, and the sun shone with a pale, yellowish hue, but kept growing darker and darker, until it was hid from sight." There was "midnight darkness at noonday."

“…Though the moon that night rose to the full, "it had not the least effect to dispel the death-like shadows." After midnight the darkness disappeared, and the moon, when first visible, had the appearance of blood.
[link to www.finalevents.com]

It is interesting to note, that in the mid 1500 a lot of interesting events happened during GSM. Then 200-300 years later it started all over again. [link to youtu.be (secure)]
In the above video at 14:10 minutes in, there is a chart showing the different solar minimums and how they related to the strange weather events. Everything got really strange in the 1500's when they were approaching a grand solar minimum.
In the 1800's when they were fully into the minimum (Dalton minimum) things went really crazy.

There are many more events like this, but for sake of the topic at hand, I am going to stick with the 1800’s since it is the most recent events for us to look back on.
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The day of darkness is very strange.

It was mostly centered around New England?

The reports seem contradictory. In some they claim the stars were visible but in others all light was extinguished.

This is one case we need to look into!
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Isn't New England one of the witchcraft centers of the US?

Also is it possible all star light were not seen because of the locust swarms?
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Re: Could the 1800’s hold some clues to what we will experience during this upcoming Solar Minimum?!?!
The last actual solar minimum was during the 17th and 18 centuries--not the 19th. It ended 24 solar cycles ago. The speculation about a solar minimum and direct hits from solar radiation is without basis. The year without a summer--1815- was due to a volcano--nothing to do with the Sun.

This is an interesting angle, but you need to get the timelines correct.
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The last actual solar minimum was during the 17th and 18 centuries--not the 19th. It ended 24 solar cycles ago. The speculation about a solar minimum and direct hits from solar radiation is without basis. The year without a summer--1815- was due to a volcano--nothing to do with the Sun.

This is an interesting angle, but you need to get the timelines correct.
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^THIS

OP,you might want to investigate the 14th century.
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Re: Could the 1800’s hold some clues to what we will experience during this upcoming Solar Minimum?!?!
The last actual solar minimum was during the 17th and 18 centuries--not the 19th. It ended 24 solar cycles ago. The speculation about a solar minimum and direct hits from solar radiation is without basis. The year without a summer--1815- was due to a volcano--nothing to do with the Sun.

This is an interesting angle, but you need to get the timelines correct.
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Yep, I was actually looking at the Dalton Minimun and not the Grand Solar. Still learning, but trying to piece it together.
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The last actual solar minimum was during the 17th and 18 centuries--not the 19th. It ended 24 solar cycles ago. The speculation about a solar minimum and direct hits from solar radiation is without basis. The year without a summer--1815- was due to a volcano--nothing to do with the Sun.

This is an interesting angle, but you need to get the timelines correct.
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Yep, I was actually looking at the Dalton Minimun and not the Grand Solar. Still learning, but trying to piece it together.
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I updated the OP to correct that. Thanks for posting it.

I am still interested if there is a correlation and I am intrgued by it.
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There are 11 year cycles...then we have 100 year cycles..(Centennial Minimum)..and then the big daddy is the Grand Solar Minimum..every 400 years. Couple that with magnetic reversal and we live in some scary times.
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Very comprehensive and well put together research on the topic. Thank you Nola.
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Just to clarify, this is a universe made up of an endless chain of cause and effect.

There is an outside source that affects the solar cycles.
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I am too,but the solar minimum ain't shit,the economy is where to look.thats where USA is headed.if we lose many more industries.
Agrarian is where we are headed.robotic agriculture.why are we so slow in the robot industry?
Everything needs automation now.we need I insurance underwriting for automation.just in the early years.it seems that must be where the bottleneck is.
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Really interesting thread man. The way I picture the solar system is like a bubble of magnetic pressure sustained by the heliosphere. Inside the heliosphere is a certain energetic equilibrium based on the plasma or magnetic pressure outside the heliosphere vs the energy inside. During a solar minimum, the barrier of the heliosphere is lessened, allowing more energy from space to upset the equilibrium inside the heliosphere. The result of this is more magnetic energy or a denser ether inside the heliosphere. This puts more of a strain on the Earth's magnetic field as there is now more energy it has to resist. Our magnetic field dropping significantly overtime is concerning in this regard.
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Really interesting thread man. The way I picture the solar system is like a bubble of magnetic pressure sustained by the heliosphere. Inside the heliosphere is a certain energetic equilibrium based on the plasma or magnetic pressure outside the heliosphere vs the energy inside. During a solar minimum, the barrier of the heliosphere is lessened, allowing more energy from space to upset the equilibrium inside the heliosphere. The result of this is more magnetic energy or a denser ether inside the heliosphere. This puts more of a strain on the Earth's magnetic field as there is now more energy it has to resist. Our magnetic field dropping significantly overtime is concerning in this regard.
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Great Thread Nola ... and it is complimented with such a post as this great comment ... I Love each and every one of the members of GLP ... and this is Why..!
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Re: Could the 1800’s hold some clues to what we will experience during this upcoming Solar Minimum?!?!
Space weather and pandemic warnings?

<50% "Medical science is not accustomed to turning to the skies for warnings of pandemics although this is precisely whatour distant ancestors throughout history were prone to do.

The Sun clearly plays an important role in all aspects of our lives. For instance, there have been many claims that the occurrence of pandemic influenza and other viral outbreaks is correlated with the well-known 11-year sunspot cycle although the precise mechanism for such a causative connection had remained unclear.

Now, with space exploration and continuous monitoring of ‘space weather’, it is evident that the Earth’s magnetosphere, and the interplanetary magnetic field in its vicinity, are modulated by the solar wind that in turn
controls the flow of charged particles onto the Earth. During times of sunspotminima, particularly deep sunspot minima, a general weakening of magnetic field occurs which would be accompanied by an increase in the flux of cosmic
rays (GCR’s) and also of electrically charged interstellar and interplanetary dust particles."

More in the link. [link to cosmictusk.com (secure)]

This article and thread was where the above link came from:

[link to cosmictusk.com (secure)]
On November 25th, 2019, Professor Chandra Wickramasinghe made the following stark warning, weeks before the coronavirus emerged.

Thread: The most important article you will read today.





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