THE PLAQUE PLACED ABOVE CHRIST BY PILATE

The Light has already shined upon me and whispered in my right ear (hahaaa) that you are a Thartac.

Thartac:

An Egyptian God called Thartac, who wore a cloak, carried a book and had the head of an ass. This is the Egyptians pointing to the literal mythologists who devised a whole, literal religion around literal characters, representing cosmic principles and powers.

I GUESS THAT IS A STEP UP FROM A TIC-TAC flavor mint.

If you can, why not just stipulate what you find bad about the post? There is no need for serpentine semantics or slithering syntax!

Restudy what the word Teste.....ment means and also

study of the many 'seed' in the pomegranate used on the vesture of the Priests, and

study what Aaron wore on his head (it rhymes with penis)and then

study what the Inner Holy Place really is and you will begin to understand the sexual nature of the 'staff'.

You'll find that they were just discovering the nature of the Yin/Yang Life Force.

Good post.

Aarons kappurah (mitre) had no sexual connotations. In the King James Version this word renders two Hebrew words, both of which, however, come from the same stem, namely, Heb: tsanaph, "to coil" or "to wrap round." In Ex 28, , a mitre (the Revised Version margin "turban") is enumerated among Aaron's articles of dress, which were to be made by tailors of recognized skill. On the forefront of the mitre was a "plate of pure gold" with the words "Holy to Yahweh" (i.e. consecrated to Yahweh) inscribed upon it. This gold plate was fastened to the mitre by a blue ribbon. The material of the mitre was fine linen or silk. The word for the headtire (the King James Version "bonnet") of the ordinary priest was a different word. Ezekiel uses the word in connection with Zedekiah (21:26); the prophet associated regal and priestly functions with the throne. It is possible, however, that the two sentences--"remove the mitre," and "take off the crown"--refer to the degradation of the priesthood and of the throne which the downfall of Jerusalem will involve. The Septuagint varies between Grk: kidaris and Grk: mitra, the former word being used in Sirach 45:12.

The Roman Catholic crucifix bears the initials "I.N.R.I.", "Iesus Nazarenus, Rex Iudaeorom" (John 19:19). But when a Jesuit of minor rank is to be elevated, he is conducted into the Chapel of the Convent of the Order. Those present are the Superior standing in front of the altar, and on either side a monk, one of whom holds a banner of yellow and white, which are the colors of the white Pope, and the other holds a black banner with a dagger and red cross above a skull and crossbones, with I.N.R.I., and below that, "IUSTUM NECAR REGES IMPIOUS" which means DEATH: "It is just to exterminate or annihilate impious or heretical Kings, Governments, or Rulers." On his final ride Satan is Death personified. He and his followers end in perdition, "and Hell follows with him" (Revelation 6:8).
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anything out of that pagan church has an esoteric meaning, I wouldn't trust anything out of that Talmud either

"Crucifegerre' (something like that) is ecclesiastical Latin. In all liklihood Jesus was executed on a stake (Greek: stauros). With hands nailed behind his back, body bloated, bloodied and beaten, from the front the image was of a reddish viper - the exact same image put up by Moses. The thief on the stake next to Him look upon the staff and like so many of the Hebrews with Moses, was saved.

I am not sure what you are trying to do, but that is total garbage. You know nothing about the Bible.

"" When the people became insubordinate and made unrighteous demands, Moses fashioned a duplicate of his staff out of bronze (some renditions have brass). It too was shaped like a serpent and to those who were bitten by the fiery serpents and looked at it were saved. This was an adumbrate of Christ.""

Have you ever actually read about the above quote in the Bible? I think not. That is NOT how and why it happened.

Num 21:5 And the people spoke against God, and against Moses, Wherefore have ye brought us up out of Egypt to die in the wilderness? for there is no bread, neither is there any water; and our soul loatheth this light bread.
Num 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Num 21:7 Therefore the people came to Moses, and said, We have sinned, for we have spoken against the LORD, and against thee; pray unto the LORD, that he take away the serpents from us. And Moses prayed for the people.
Num 21:8 And the LORD said unto Moses, Make thee a fiery serpent, and set it upon a pole: and it shall come to pass, that every one that is bitten, when he looketh upon it, shall live.
Num 21:9 And Moses made a serpent of brass, and put it upon a pole, and it came to pass, that if a serpent had bitten any man, when he beheld the serpent of brass, he lived.

Speaking out against God and His servant Moses constitutes insubordination. They were bitten by the firey serpents as the quail meat dangled from their mouths. Demanding food when God is providing manna is unrighteousness. There is no error in what was posted.

Dear Anon 238051

You are correct the quail incident drew a plague (which is not specified as to what), the firey serpents came a little later. The point overall was that God was the cloud by day (i.e. air conditioning), the pillar of fire at night (i.e. heating, in industrial terms it's called HVAC - heating, ventilation and air conditioning) and fed them. Their attire and footware did not deteriorate.
The grand juxtaposition was wwhen Yeshua said to have eternal life one must eat the flesh of the Son of Man. Suddenly no one wanted meat, manna became suddenly in vogue.
But the parody is the point, the unleavened Afikoman is truly the flesh of Messiah. Paul did not tell the Corinthians they were getting sick on the symbol of God, but on the literal "soma" (Greek: meaning body flesh as in psychosomatic).
It is odd that some insist on the "Real Absence" of Christ in the unleavened wafer, as opposed to His real Presence in the communion host.
Thanks for the reminder.

Thank you - we all live and learn.


""The grand juxtaposition was wwhen Yeshua said to have eternal life one must eat the flesh of the Son of Man.""

Where is this in the Bible, I have never read it. Or are you talking about the sacrament we take on passover?

Anon
Yes the word Afikomen is a Greek term meaning "He comes". It is the name for the broken piece of matzah, half of which is hidden. The children, near the end of the Seder search for the hidden half. This signifies that the next generation of Israel is to be on the look out for Messiah. The final cup of wine is set out for Eliyahu who precedes the Messiah.
And you do well to designate this as a true sacrement, indicating the real, true presence of Yeshua.

Anon
You might find Dr. David Stern "Jewish New Testament" to be of interest. His application and superpositioning of Jewish Life fabric over the hermeneutic of the text is quite laudable. It's also available on CD by LOGOS Corp. in California if I recall correctly.

pppppttttttttt.

and speaking against mohammed is also insubordination.

insubordination,

speaking out against your superior as against an existing heirarchy of authority over you.

SEEING THAT WE DO NOT, NOR HAVE EVER, RECOGNIZE(D), NOR DO WE AGREE TO CONTRACT WITH, OR HAVE CONTRACTED WITH, ANY AUTHORITY, IN THE PAST, THE PRESENT OR IN THE FUTURE, YOUR CLAIM OF INSUBORDINATION IS INVALID AND NULL.

you guys have spent 2000 years trying to convince each other of pure bullshit

Foul language is a indisputable sign of a fouled mind.

I am not referring to Aaron's kappurah, I am referring to Aaron's 'sacred garments' with which he was alleged to have clothed himself, which represent the physical flesh the genetic principle puts on in biologic forms, male and female. The strange name the Priests gave it (Aaron's headdress) was the name 'ephod' and it's female counterpart is called the 'breastplate'.

"These were to be cunningly made and elaborately adorned, but not by human hands, these are the Creator's work (i.e: the genetic principle of nature). The ephod is the tumescent phallus, its genetic nature implied in the Greek, ephebe, pubescent youth".

32. And there shall be a hole in the top of it, in the midst thereof it shall have a binding of woven work around the hole of it...(Chap 28 Exodus)

If this be the prepuce, what about literal circumcision? The mitre on Aaron's head is the head of the phallus, but there's more to the vestment than just the phallus.

9. And thou shalt take two onyx stones (rather Onan stones), and grave on them the names of the children of Israel. (Chap 28 Exodus).

11. ...and shall make them to be set in pouches of gold (rather, pouches of skin).

"These two stones are the male testes (testements), and on them are engraved the genetic laws and heriditary characteristics of all forms of life. A little later the ground is gone over again, and then they are called pomeganates. The word, from pomum, and granatus, means 'fruit of the many seeds. Among the ancients it was a symbol of generation and fecundity. The Goddess Nana conceived by putting a pomegranate in her bosom. Mythologists, it seems are no respecters of places either".

"And now, perhaps, we can learn the nature of the 'holy oil' with which Aaron annointed everything; it is the seminal fluid."

AND LEARNED SIR, HOW COME YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT I AM SPEAKING OF WHEN I MENTION THE SEXUAL NATURE OF YOUR EXEGESIS? I HAVE THE IMPRESSION THAT YOU ARE THE TEACHER. AND WHY IS THE WORD 'ISRAEL' INTERPRETED LITERALLY IN THE ABOVE VERSE 9 OF CHAP 28 EXODUS, AS THE TRIBES OF EXCLUSIVE AND ELITIST ISRAEL, RATHER THAN THE CORRECT MEANING OF 'THE GENETIC LAWS AND HEREDITY OF ALL HUMANKIND'?

It is significant that the four letters inscribed upon parchment (some say wood) and fastened to the top of the cross at the time of the crucifixion should be the first letters of four Hebrew words which stand for the four elements: "Iammin, the sea or water; Nour, fire; Rouach, the air; and Iebeschah, the dry earth." (See Morals and Dogma, by Albeit Pike.)

Aaron’s apparel and tailoring was not tailored explicitly for sexual symbolism, just as circumcision is not sexually oriented.
Circumcision is physical in expression but spiritual in meaning. The mark of circumcision is a circumferential “scar”, like a wedding ring encircles the finger. It is the sign of the covenant. When a man and woman are duly married and the process of intercourse occurs, his seed “pass through” the scar, incurring and paving the way for the Blessings of God. This act was done by the parents (today a mohel does it) and did not present itself as a choice or option elected by the child. Since it was performed by or in the name of the parents, it is a sign of the perpetuation of God’s covenant.

As far as I am aware the INRI placard derives from: VUL John 19:19 scripsit autem et titulum Pilatus et posuit super crucem erat autem scriptum Iesus Nazarenus rex Iudaeorum. The first letters of the last 4 words of Latin in that passage. By the time that scripture was penned the full 72-lettered name of God was not written down. In its place were the tetragrammaton and Adonai. In Philippians where the translation is rendered: NKJ Philippians 2:10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth,”. It should read “at the name that belongs to Jesus”. It is saying that Jesus has a name and that name is YHVH – Adonai in Hebrew, kurios in Greek. Rabbinical, more specifically hascidic thought places the 72 letters with an acronym of the names of 72 high powered angels. I've seen the proposed name, I'm not fully convinced it is correct.

Please understand I am a monotheistic Trinitarian, even though that sounds oxymoronic and counterintuitive. God is God the Father, Jesus God the Son, and God the Blessed Holy Spirit. God is ECHAD (a composite unity) as opposed to YACHAD (a singularity).

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Within the Alchemical tradition, the phrase often holds a second meaning of the Latin phrase, Igne Natura Renovatur Integra; that is, "Through fire nature is reborn whole".

Wow! This is a very interesting explanation of the Jewish circumcision! I have often wondered about the deeper meaning of it and why the necessity for such a graphic physical demonstration of allegiance to God?! This also places other formerly confusing biblical texts into perspective, such as Paul's letters regarding circumcison and uncircumcision...

Op, may I ask you about your credentials, both academic and religious or theology wise? Thank you

uhm, they lived in a desert... you know
Sand
that gets everywhere.

SO YOU ARE IN FAVOR OF KNIFING A BABY'S PENIS BECAUSE SOME ANCIENT BOOK SAYS YOU SHOULD?

ALSO, I WOULD LIKE YOU TO ANSWER MY OTHER QUESTION ABOUT THE ASSUMPTION THAT IT IS A LITERAL ISRAEL, REFERRED TO IN EXODUS CHAP 28, VERSE 9, AS THE CHOSEN PEOPLE, AS PORTRAYED LITERALLY IN THE VERSE WHEN IT IS THE GENETIC PRINCIPLE AND HERITAGE OF ALL OF HUMANKIND IT IS REALLY DESCRIBING.

WHAT SAY YOU? WILL YOU ALSO PERPETRATE THE LIE OF ISRAEL AS THE EXCLUSIVE, CHOSEN PEOPLE? YES OR NO.

the INRI was the Roman title,
its said that the title was also written in Greek & Hebrew
~which must have made the cross look like a billboard display~



about the pointy headress thingy ~Mitre~ or 'Bishops Mitre'

if one connects the dots, you'll find that the practice of head-binding was done to make infants>childrens heads all pointy...
the religious pointy hat is a echo of that ancient practice, which allowed the whole comminity to recognize a person that was 'selected' for a promonent social role
--->another throwback to pagan rituals, huh~ !

Dear Anonymous Coward #274690

Circumcision does not constitute mutilation of the male member. The removal of the foreskin is not mutilation. As I said before circumcision produces a circumferential ‘scar’ around the male member, in the same way a wedding ring encircles the finger and serves a public and private reminder of wedding vows and commitment. When a circumcised man is duly married, in the act of procreation with his wife his seed “pass through” the scar and in so doing they incur the blessings of the covenant even before conception occurs. In this way the sign of the covenant (the ‘scar of circumcision’ imputes the covenantal blessing to the new generation. The parents make the choice for circumcision of the infant, which shows that the parents are willing to teach the upcoming generation the covenant of God.
Some supposedly enlightened parents might say “I would never force my religious beliefs on my child”. Yet these same people, if faced with a smallpox outbreak would have their child vaccinated, thereby imposing their medical beliefs on him/her. This is hypocrisy.

In Hebrew circumcision is called a b’rit milah Greek: diatheken peri tomes means literally, “covenant of circumcision” (see Jasher chapter 17; Genesis chapter 17). The expression can mean either the act or the ceremony of covenantal circumcision (often performed by an “expert” called a mohel), which is normally accomplished on the eighth day, even if that day falls on a Shabbat, of a male Jew’s life. It is almost universally required of any male proselyte who converts to Judaism. The blood coagulating factor in the bloodstream, peaks on the 8th day in life in the human male and is forever less (tapering off slowly) after the 8th day, never to reach that 8th day concentration peaks at that time in the life of that male person. Circumcision (Latin meaning ‘a cutting around’) is the trenchant maneuver of the male’s foreskin, a requirement meant for THE NEXT generation – the generation of the males being circumcised as this in not self-elected surgery, it is parentally imposed. It is a solemn, pious religious rite that still honored and prevalent among many peoples in different parts of the world -- in Asia, Africa, America, and Australia. In ancient times it was practiced among the western Semites -- Hebrews, Arabians, Moabites, Ammonites, Edomites, and Egyptians, but not among the Babylonians, Assyrians, Canaanites, and Philistines. There can be no doubt that it was at first a religious act and remains so today. Circumcision is the sign of the Covenant of God. Its force is equivalent to a wedding ring. In circumcision as the foreskin is cut and removed a circumferential scar is installed completely around the male appendage. Upon marriage consummation, the male seed, like the male’s finger in the wedding band, pass through the sign of the covenant, a scar and/or the finger wedding ring showing the covenant of marriage and the rights and blessings are bestowed upon the seed. Modern day Christianity is so enraptured with “Avoiding legalism”, they forego and miss out on the generation blessings of circumcision upon their children and grandchildren. What a terrible loss due to lack of true knowledge (Hosea 4:6). Among the Hebrews and subsequent believers God instituted the rite as the sign of the covenant between him and Abraham and Abraham’s followers, shortly after the latter's sojourn in Egypt. God ordained that it be performed on Abraham, on his posterity and slaves, and on foreigners joining themselves to the Hebrew nation (Genesis 17:12). Every male child was to be circumcised on the eighth day. In later times a Hebrew surgeon (mohel) was summoned in. The child was also named at the ceremony. According to the terms of the covenant demonstrated by circumcision, the Lord undertook to be the God of Abraham and his descendants, and they were to belong to him, worshiping and obeying only him. The rite effected admission to the fellowship of the covenant people and secured for the individual, as a member of the nation, his share in the promises God made to the ekklesia of Israel as a whole. Circumcision represented to the believers of God's promises to them and of the duties they had assumed. The prophets often reminded them that the outward rite, to have any significance, must be accompanied by a "circumcision of the heart" (Leviticus 26:41; Deuteronomy 30:6; Jeremiah 9:25-26; Ezekiel 44:7). Paul decried outward circumcision not accompanied by a change of heart. In the early history of the Christian dominated ekklesia, properly schooled messianic Jews argued for the necessity of circumcising of gentile children, who, just as Hebrew children, could not object to the procedure; just as no right thinking person not vaccinate their young children during a small-pox out break. Paul (Galatians 5:2) and the Jerusalem Council (Acts chapter 15) decided that pagan infested converts were to unstable to endure the finer points of the covenant until they had been sufficiently exorcised that they could take the step in a true heart-felt way. Premature insistence that the proselyte shoulder all of the requirements of the cultivated olive tree would be too much too fast. Circumcision: Institution of (Genesis 17:10-14; Leviticus 12:3; John 7:22; Acts 7:8; Romans 4:11). A seal of righteousness (Romans 2:25-29, 4:11). Performed on all males on the eighth day (Genesis 17:12-13; Leviticus 12:3; Philippians 3:5). Rite of, observed on the Sabbath (John 7:23). A prerequisite of the privileges of the Passover (Exodus 12:48, that includes gentiles also). Child named at the time of (Genesis 21:3-4; Luke 1:59, 2:21). Neglected (Joshua 5:7). Covenant promises of (Genesis 17:4, 17:14; Acts 7:8; Romans 3:1, 4:11, 9:7-13; Galatians 5:3). Characterized by Paul as a yoke to brand new converts to the ekklesia (of Israel) (Acts 15:10). Instances of circumcision: Abraham (Jasher chapter 17Genesis 17:23-27, 21:3-4). The men of Abraham’s household (Jasher chapter 18) Shechemites (Jasher chapter 33Genesis 34:24). Moses circumcises his SECOND son, Eliezer, (Jasher 78:9). Zipporah circumcises Moses’ FIRST son, Gershom (Jasher 79:12; Exodus 4:25). Israel, all servants and stranger who join themselves to Israel must be circumcised (Exodus 12:42-49). Israelites at Gilgal (a “second time”, to guarantee all were circumcised, Joshua 5:2-9). John the Baptist (Luke 1:59). Yeshua (Luke 2:21). Paul (Philippians 3:5). Timothy (Acts 16:3). Behavior indicative of circumcision: (Exodus 6:12ftn; Deuteronomy 10:16, 30:6; Jeremiah 4:4, 6:10ftn, 9:26; Romans 2:28-29, 15:8ftn; Philippians 3:3; Colossians 2:11, 3:11). A designation of obedience to God’s commands (Acts 10:45, 11:2; Romans 15:8ftn; Ephesians 2:11; Colossians 4:11; Titus 1:10), for mature messianic gentiles (Philippians 3:3). A designation of all who believe (Acts 10:45, 11:2; Romans 15:8ftn; Ephesians 2:11; Colossians 4:11; Titus 1:10), of matured Christians (Philippians 3:3). See Genesis 17:10ff, 17:23ff, 21:4, 34:15, 34:17, 34:22, 34:24; Exodus 4:26, 12:44, 12:48; Leviticus 12:3; Deuteronomy 10:16, 30:6; Joshua 5:2ff, 5:7f; Jeremiah 4:4, 9:25; Luke 1:59, 2:21; John 7:22f; Acts 7:8, 10:45, 11:2, 15:1, 15:5, 15:24, 16:3, 21:21; Romans 2:25ff, 3:1, 3:30, 4:9ff, 15:8; 1 Corinthians 7:18f; Galatians 2:3, 2:7ff, 2:12, 5:2f, 5:6, 5:11, 6:12f, 6:15; Ephesians 2:11; Philippians 3:3, 3:5; Colossians 2:11, 3:11, 4:11; Titus 1:10.

Now as regarding who constitutes “Israel”: Israel -- designates several items. (1) The offspring of the Patriarch Jacob, who is himself called Israel (Genesis 32:10), i.e., the Jewish people. Mt 2:6 and others. (2) The Land of Israel. Mathew 2:20–21, 10:23; Luke 4:25, 27. (3) Those within Israel who abide faithful to God. Romans 9:6, and perhaps insinuated at 1 Corinthians 10:18; Galatians 6:16. (4) All Jewish and gentile believers in God and his Messiah Yeshua. Perhaps suggested at Galatians 6:16 and Ephesians 2:12–13.

I hope this provides suitable clarity for you.

It is indeed interesting that for many years, the screams of molestation and criminal behavior(about circumcision) were used as justification of haters of Yah,s word to not only condemn the practice but also the Lord and His Word, because so the opponents said there was no benefit in the process.

But everything God commands in scripture has more than just spiritual and obvious purpose, it also has ongoing temporal consequence.
And in this case it is now confirmed, though grudgingly that circumcision actually is better for you sexually(example aids, do research about what the UN discovered about this in south Africa). Again this is no excuse to sin.

Another instance of Israel serving as the rootstock of Christianity must be recalled in the light of one of the long running errors believed by many today is that the “church” was birthed at Pentecost (Shavuot) in the book of acts. The word rendered “church” comes from the Greek word “ekklesia”. It has been made out to be a brand new work of God. Nothing could be farther from the truth. In the Septuagint, the Old Greek translation of the Hebrew sacred writings, begun in Alexandria Egypt, circa 250 B.C. uses the term “ekklesia” over 100 times. It specifically refers to the ekklesia of Israel. When Paul wrote that he was grafting the gentiles into a “cultivated” olive tree, he was talking about an institution that was in existence and was already cultivated. That cultivated, long standing olive tree could not possibly refer to any gentile, Christian organization.

The references in the Septuagint to the “ekklesia of Israel” are: Lev 8:3; Num 20:8; Deut 4:10; 9:10; 18:16; 23:2ff, 9; 31:12, 28, 30; Josh 9:2; Jda. 20:2; 21:5, 8; Judg 20:2; 21:5, 8; 1 Sam 17:47; 19:20; 1 Kgs 8:14, 22, 55, 65; 1 Chr 13:2, 4; 28:2, 8; 29:1, 10, 20; 2 Chr 1:3, 5; 6:3, 12f; 7:8; 10:3; 20:5, 14; 23:3; 28:14; 29:23, 28, 31f; 30:2, 4, 13, 17, 23ff; Ezra 2:64; 10:1, 8, 12, 14; Neh 5:7, 13; 7:66; 8:2, 17; 13:1; Esth 4:16; Jdt 6:16, 21; 7:29; 14:6; 1 Macc 2:56; 3:13; 4:59; 5:16; 14:19; Ps 21:23, 26; 25:5, 12; 34:18; 39:10; 67:27; 88:6; 106:32; 149:1; Prov 5:14; Eccl 1:1f, 12; 7:27; 12:8ff; Job 30:28; Sir 15:5; 21:17; 23:24; 24:2; 26:5; 31:11; 33:19; 38:33; 39:10; 44:15; 46:7; 50:13, 20; Pss. Sol. 10:6; Mic 2:5; Joel 2:16; Lam 1:10; Matt 16:18; 18:17; Acts 5:11; 7:38; 8:1, 3; 9:31; 11:22, 26; 12:1, 5; 13:1; 14:23, 27; 15:3f, 22, 41; 16:5; 18:22; 19:32, 39f; 20:17, 28; Rom 16:1, 4f, 16, 23; 1 Cor 1:2; 4:17; 6:4; 7:17; 10:32; 11:16, 18, 22; 12:28; 14:4f, 12, 19, 23, 28, 33ff; 15:9; 16:1, 19; 2 Cor 1:1; 8:1, 18f, 23f; 11:8, 28; 12:13; Gal 1:2, 13, 22; Eph 1:22; 3:10, 21; 5:23ff, 27, 29, 32; Phil 3:6; 4:15; Col 1:18, 24; 4:15f; 1 Thess 1:1; 2:14; 2 Thess 1:1, 4; 1 Tim 3:5, 15; 5:16; Phlm 1:2; Heb 2:12; 12:23; Jas 5:14; 3 John 1:6, 9f; Rev 1:4, 11, 20; 2:1, 7f, 11f, 17f, 23, 29; 3:1, 6f, 13f, 22; 22:16

Y’va-reh-cha-cha Ah-doe-nigh v’yeesh-m’reh-cha, Ya-air Ah-doe-nigh, pa-navh ay-leh-cha vee-choo-neh-ka, Yee-sa Ah-doe-nigh pa-nahv al-leh-cha ve-ya-sem l’cha Shalom. (Numbers 6:24-26). The Lord bless you and keep you, The Lord make His face shine upon you and be gracious unto you, The Lord lift up His countenance upon you and give you peace.
Rosh Chodesh.