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A friend persuaded me to submit this account, against my natural tendency on the matter. I have no real interest in following it up or being contacted in any way. It was a very frightening episode. It is traumatic enough, to be honest, to recall it just once at length here. But having set out to describe it, I will be as frank and as accurate as language can allow.
On the 15th July 2013, at about 7.45am, I was on my way to work and approaching the intersection and getting ready to take a left-hand turn. This is a notoriously dangerous intersection on any day, and there have been many accidents there. It is hard to see if the intersection is clear from the right and the left turn is particularly hazardous. I was running late and in a flustered state of mind. I had an important meeting that I’d been planning for carefully over a number of days, and a really stupid delay at the last minute put all of that in jeopardy. It should also be understood that a much better traffic signal system exists there today than was in place at the time of this incident.
I approached the intersection in a hurry. I looked to the right and believed that I had correctly viewed that nothing was approaching from the right, so I made the left turn. As I crossed the intersection, I glanced right once more and saw a vehicle heading straight for me at what could only have been in excess of ninety miles per hour. We saw each other. I saw the look in the other guy’s eyes because we were that close. A collision was absolutely inevitable. There is no way on this earth that it could have been avoided.
What happens next is EXTREMELY difficult to describe, but I will do my best. And this can be (and must be) taken to apply to everything that I am going to attempt to relate from this point onwards. Words, even the most carefully chosen words, capture no more than 1% of this experience at best, and even then very poorly. This is quite possibly the most frustrating thing about giving this account.
Across from the front of the car on the left, in almost the opposite direction to the oncoming vehicle, was a field. I suddenly became aware of a very large 'object' approaching slowly on a diagonal across this field. It was coming directly towards my car. Time was not functioning normally while this was happening, if it was functioning at all. I had the space to notice this happening, but I can’t explain how I was able to do that. The object when I first saw it, appeared to be about the size of a ten-floor tower block. It subjectively seemed to be about two or three hundred yards across the field. These size and distance descriptions are meaningless, as I’ll try to explain in a moment.
The object resembled a giant waterwheel lying on its side and rotating as it approached me and my vehicle. As it got closer, this didn’t take time, as we understand it. I saw that my first observation about its size was wildly inaccurate. It was more like the size of a small city. As it got closer still, I understood that all scale and distance estimates were meaningless. It was larger than what we think of as the world. As it approached me, I became aware of its power and significance. My mind interpreted this as being an up-close, giant-scale physical object.
Okay, now this part is particularly difficult to explain. As the object drew near to me, a kind of sensation came over my person and I knew exactly what this thing was. Not only that, but I knew everything that pertained to it, what it was, what it was doing, what it’s 'business' was with me, where and when I had seen it before, why I was seeing it now, and many many other things that I cannot now recall.
I had seen the object before I was born and I will see it again when I die. We all knew it before we were born. We will all see it when we die. But this information is eclipsed from us while we are alive. And that was why I was seeing it now in the experience, because I was in the process of dying in a fatal car crash.
Here’s what I can remember, as best it words can tell. This wheel wasn’t something that moved towards me through the world, or through reality somehow. That was an illusion that my senses were constructing for me. The wheel WAS reality, itself. It represented EVERY CONCEIVABLE POSSIBILITY for a life or for a world that could ever be envisioned or imagined. As it approached, I became aware that what we call our world was contained within it. It was simply one of the numberless slots or paddles in the 'water wheel.' It had always been so. My life, your life, our world, all of us - we were a part of this wheel structure and we had always been a part of this structure. It simply now made itself visible to me.
There then began the truly terrifying dimension of this experience. Words cannot even begin to describe the level of fear I experienced. The water wheel sort of rolled across me and then across the place where my car was in the road. As it did so, I began to be hit by each of the paddles in the wheel.
Remember that all of this is just a way of talking. It does not, and cannot, remotely describe the real situation as it actually was.
But some sense of it can be had by imagining that in the space of each 'paddle' there was a kind of spinning film of water, like a waterfall on its side. Imagine a film of water being thrown outward from the wheel in each slot, as if by centrifugal force. Imagine being slapped or splashed by each of these films as you collide with it and pass through it to the next one. This is what was happening. Except these weren’t just films of water. They were (for want of a better term) possible realities or what we might think of as universes or worlds. Again, our world, our entire universe as we normally think of it, was simply one among an infinite number of these. How did I know that there was an infinite number? I just did. A kind of knowing came with the event, and there was no doubting this knowing. It WAS so, and I knew it was so.
And because I had knowledge and understood what was happening in ways I can no longer communicate, I was afraid. I understood that I was about to be subject to the process that humans approximated with the term 'reincarnation.' This was why the wheel had come. I represented a kind of discrepancy that had to be fixed. The event, or perhaps the imminent event, on the highway had caused me to slip out of or fall between the paddles on the wheel. This structure had some kind of cosmic purpose of sorting things into their correct natural place. I was afraid and resisted being 'sorted' so the wheel stepped up its aggressive attempts to 'sort' me correctly.
With this came another understanding that frightened me even more. I knew that unless I soon selected one of these realities to slide back into, that the wheel would coerce the situation by deciding for me. One way or another, I WOULD be 'sorted' whether I liked it or not. If I didn’t choose for myself, I would simply be fitted into place at some nearest position on the wheel to the point where I failed to make the decision; if that makes sense. I was aware of having a limited ability to choose, but not much. Even that limited ability wasn’t much use because each reality slammed against me and through me before I could make much sense of what it contained.
Even I did not remain the same from one slot in the wheel to the next. It was as if when each film broke over me, I was destroyed and made again from the ground up as a completely new self. There was no continuous 'me' that traveled unaltered through that wheel and can somehow report back on this experience. This is just one of the many things that is so very hard to explain. The very idea of a continuous self was contradicted by this experience.
I have forgotten, or perhaps it was deliberately suppressed, the vast majority of what I saw in the various universes or paddles of the wheel. At the beginning, they seemed very similar to this world we inhabit, or believe ourselves to inhabit. For example, I have a floating memory of seeing various different scenarios of how the accident played out. I suspect that these were all nearby paddles on the wheel. In one of them I remember seeing what looked like my vehicle thrown right off the road and so badly damaged that it looked like it had been folded in the center like a pocket knife. I seemed to recall many other scenarios like this that I can no longer remember. To clarify: what I mean is that I seemed to file or flip through numerous conceivable (quantum?) possibilities for the outcome of the accident. I can remember doing this, but I cannot remember what any of these particular 'worlds' contained.
I have no explanation for why I failed to experience any of the phenomena usually reported with the imminent death situations like the tunnel, the light, and so on. I suspect that imminent death experiences are symbolic scenarios that flash up just as someone is entering or exiting the wheel, but before the situation has developed very far. At no stage did I see anything whatever that resembled what we humans would think of as an afterlife or spirit world or life after death realm. It’s as if we are either on the outer surface of the wheel itself, in one of its realized worlds, or else we are dead and we are the wheel itself. The wheel is a space where all uncreated possibility exists, but nothing completed or actual. And bear in mind that nothing was concealed from me. I was the ALL, and knew the ALL. I certainly don’t retain it or pretend do, but I knew it then.
I began to grow extremely panicked. Each time I thought I was just beginning to get a handle on things, I would be slapped over violently and ruthlessly into a new slot in the wheel and a whole new 'me' would crystallize, along with all the memories and assumptions that went along with that world. I remembered none of who I was just a moment ago in another paddle on the wheel. I had no memory whatsoever of where I had come from or the highway situation in my world. I had zero memory of that world. I knew I had come from a 'somewhere' but had no recollection of where that was, or even who I was. It was about the most bizarre thing that you could imagine.
Somehow though, and I can only assume that it happened without any conscious action on my part, the possibilities appearing in the wheel began to narrow down and become somewhat more familiar again. Scenarios associated with the accident began to appear once more. I say once more, but I have no real way of knowing whether this was a separate incidence of this to what I described above, or whether it was really the same incidence because time was functioning so unusually during the whole episode.
Again I saw, or seemed to see, variations or possible world-outcomes where I died in the crash. I seemed to understand intuitively that if I went 'into' any of these, I would be there for only a few moments or minutes at most, and then I would have to come out and face the wheel again almost immediately. I didn’t want to do this. But there was an odd kind of knowing associated with that too. The wheel didn’t seem bothered one way or the other. It didn’t seem to matter to it whether I emerged again in three minutes time or three decades time. All it cared about was sorting me, and there was a kind of ruthlessness to this that I will not soon forget.
I found myself back on the highway in what seemed to be a very short distance back up the road, still approaching the intersection. This is just one of the many mysteries associated with the event that I cannot explain. Did I choose a world which was a version of our universe in which the accident hadn’t quite happened yet, but was just seconds away from happening? I can’t say, because I have no memory of making that decision. I remember the look on that driver’s face as clearly as if it were yesterday. I remember him bracing back on the wheel. But I braked as I reached the intersection and that driver, or his car, were simply nowhere to be seen. [ link to www.nderf.org (secure)] Spanish_guy |
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Report Copyright Violation | Re: MAN SHARES ASTOUNDING NEAR DEATH EXPERIENCE: Have you SEEN or EXPERIENCED the WHEEL? Do you know what is behind the WHEEL and what it is? I've read about the 'wheel'. Very interesting.
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Report Copyright Violation | Re: MAN SHARES ASTOUNDING NEAR DEATH EXPERIENCE: Have you SEEN or EXPERIENCED the WHEEL? Do you know what is behind the WHEEL and what it is? This does not match up with any of the over 30 million recorded NDE's this one stands alone and that damns it. |
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Report Copyright Violation | Re: MAN SHARES ASTOUNDING NEAR DEATH EXPERIENCE: Have you SEEN or EXPERIENCED the WHEEL? Do you know what is behind the WHEEL and what it is? This does not match up with any of the over 30 million recorded NDE's this one stands alone and that damns it.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76446679 Some people that have taken salvia have reported to see the same wheel. The wheel appears in the Bible (Ezekiel) and is consistent with Buddhist accounts. Spanish_guy |
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This does not match up with any of the over 30 million recorded NDE's this one stands alone and that damns it.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76446679 Some people that have taken salvia have reported to see the same wheel. The wheel appears in the Bible (Ezekiel) and is consistent with Buddhist accounts. Spanish_guy |
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Report Copyright Violation | Re: MAN SHARES ASTOUNDING NEAR DEATH EXPERIENCE: Have you SEEN or EXPERIENCED the WHEEL? Do you know what is behind the WHEEL and what it is? That was a Law Wheel. It's good that you saw it. It can rectify abnormalities and defective things in the cosmos. I've also seen this wheel inside my dantian (lower belly). I got it when I became a Falun Gong practitioner. More info here: en.falundafa.org When you are afraid of losing your life, you have already lost your life.
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Report Copyright Violation | Re: MAN SHARES ASTOUNDING NEAR DEATH EXPERIENCE: Have you SEEN or EXPERIENCED the WHEEL? Do you know what is behind the WHEEL and what it is? I remember doing salvia once & it was something like the wheel. I felt like I was in a section of an egg carton. I knew there were other spots & they were different but I couldn't get out of my spot no matter what I did.
I felt stuck in some sort of 'reality' that I couldn't escape. |
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Report Copyright Violation | Re: MAN SHARES ASTOUNDING NEAR DEATH EXPERIENCE: Have you SEEN or EXPERIENCED the WHEEL? Do you know what is behind the WHEEL and what it is? My DMT trip took me to a wheel like machine, felt like i had been there before, first thing that i thought that it was a soul reprocessing center.
Along the way there i floated above an open field, what i saw there where two armies of black and white knights having it out on horses.
I felt like they were communicating in a language that i can only discribe as they talked using math..this was game play to them, maybe more advance beings than us or, an advance form of what we may become. |
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My DMT trip took me to a wheel like machine, felt like i had been there before, first thing that i thought that it was a soul reprocessing center.
Along the way there i floated above an open field, what i saw there where two armies of black and white knights having it out on horses.
I felt like they were communicating in a language that i can only discribe as they talked using math..this was game play to them, maybe more advance beings than us or, an advance form of what we may become.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78142494 I do remember that the wheel had water coming from it, kind of like a car wash thingy. |
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Report Copyright Violation | Re: MAN SHARES ASTOUNDING NEAR DEATH EXPERIENCE: Have you SEEN or EXPERIENCED the WHEEL? Do you know what is behind the WHEEL and what it is? Okay. This is interesting, really. I've seen a wheel, but not on drugs of any sort, just in a dream, but it was from a different perspective, more like looking at a roulette or color wheel. It seems there is a bit of a paradox in the story. Despite the feeling of separateness, there is an apparent continuity. In that sense of "this is me", even though I am not me, there is still a "me" in the story. Things are bad enough, there is no need to make anything up. ~Fluffy
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Report Copyright Violation | Re: MAN SHARES ASTOUNDING NEAR DEATH EXPERIENCE: Have you SEEN or EXPERIENCED the WHEEL? Do you know what is behind the WHEEL and what it is? I have been in the wheel on salvia
I also saw zippers that open nest realities.
Basically it has changed my mind about drugs. I dont think salvia is just a drug.
I actually saw things that cannot be explained .
The wheel picks me up anytime I take a hit on salvia. On the wheel there are other scenes and there are many other wheels with people on them . The wheel also gives a feeling of being there before . We all been there. And we will go there when we die. It's almost like a projector and your life is your movie and when you die, the projector picks you up and sorts your soul somewhere else.
Salvia confirmed creator and also simulation theory. Creator is programmer. |
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I read that account years ago. Freaked me out. It doesnt sound pleasant at all. According to the experience we are simply cogs in a universal machine. Basically eternal slaves to whatever drives this "wheel" with no choice at all. |
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Report Copyright Violation | Re: MAN SHARES ASTOUNDING NEAR DEATH EXPERIENCE: Have you SEEN or EXPERIENCED the WHEEL? Do you know what is behind the WHEEL and what it is? I actually have experienced it. 10 years ago.
I saw it more like a page of a book turning.
I flipped into another page. Yes is was from Salvia
Minor things are different now.
Like the color of my Grandpas curtains.
Used to be blue.. Now they're yellow.
He swears it's the same color they've always been.
I'm not gonna go into detail but.
Yes it's all true.
There are different realities.
And once you know.. You cannot unknow.
One of the things that really bugged me was the fact that my Grandma looked slightly different after turning the page. I eventually got used to it. She died of Cancer 5 years ago. But a year ago I visited my hometown and she came to me in a dream saying she had Alzheimer's. But it was the way I originally remember her looking. Only 10 years older.
Really freaked me the fuck out. |
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Report Copyright Violation | Re: MAN SHARES ASTOUNDING NEAR DEATH EXPERIENCE: Have you SEEN or EXPERIENCED the WHEEL? Do you know what is behind the WHEEL and what it is? I read that account years ago. Freaked me out. It doesnt sound pleasant at all. According to the experience we are simply cogs in a universal machine. Basically eternal slaves to whatever drives this "wheel" with no choice at all.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51750288 Forced to experience whatever it wants us to for eternity. After death it hunts us down, coldly, mercilessly, violently picks us up and shoves us in a slot that puts us in a new incarnation against our will. |
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Report Copyright Violation | Re: MAN SHARES ASTOUNDING NEAR DEATH EXPERIENCE: Have you SEEN or EXPERIENCED the WHEEL? Do you know what is behind the WHEEL and what it is? It was enlightening how God didn't force a belief into this unbelieving man throughout the experience. At the link, the author of this says he was, and still is, an atheist although he now says there probably is no God.
He seems to function with a high level of what he perceives to be objectivity, an objectivity he doesn't want to let go of. He appears to hold himself out as someone who observes.
He let on that his emotional connections to people were and are mild which says, to me at least, that he values "being objective" over valuing relationships. Once again, God didn't intrude or force him outside his comfort zone. |
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Not at all what I experienced anytime Ive almost died or died.Ive been saved by an invisible force/energy When I almost rode off a cliff and when I fell under the ice and when I escaped an abduction that made the news,this all happened in my younger years along with many very negative energies that circled me and were able to move things. The one time I died,I went into what seemed like a pregame loby for an MMO game,everyone knew me instantly and I knew them,I could hear them all yelling happily at me and was able to hone in on any one voice at my liking,I wanted to stay in that place,that seemed like a room of intense bright light,I liken it to,if you were code zipping through an ether net cable,and all though other code represented your very close friends that you've know since time began. Ive also had other experiences with loved ones that have passed and came back to intervene in my physical life,two of those situations involved events that made local and national news. I am convinced we are in a program as a soul,and this is the only way to have a physical experience...or we are in a program against our will,but that lobby area that I mentioned didnt feel like punishment or we were being used for nefarious purposes. Last Edited by Hopelessly Devoted 11:11 on 11/07/2019 01:33 AMLife is like a toilet and were all just a bunch of turds,some of us sink and some of us float but in the end we all get flushed,Leave your mark. |
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Report Copyright Violation | Re: MAN SHARES ASTOUNDING NEAR DEATH EXPERIENCE: Have you SEEN or EXPERIENCED the WHEEL? Do you know what is behind the WHEEL and what it is? Read the philosophy of Boethius...
He has it spot on....
Boethius:
It's my belief that history is a wheel. "Inconsistency is my very essence" -says the wheel- "Rise up on my spokes if you like, but don't complain when you are cast back down into the depths. Good times pass away, but then so do the bad. Mutability is our tragedy, but it is also our hope. The worst of times, like the best, are always passing away". |
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Report Copyright Violation | Re: MAN SHARES ASTOUNDING NEAR DEATH EXPERIENCE: Have you SEEN or EXPERIENCED the WHEEL? Do you know what is behind the WHEEL and what it is? I have been in the wheel on salvia
I also saw zippers that open nest realities.
Basically it has changed my mind about drugs. I dont think salvia is just a drug.
I actually saw things that cannot be explained .
The wheel picks me up anytime I take a hit on salvia. On the wheel there are other scenes and there are many other wheels with people on them . The wheel also gives a feeling of being there before . We all been there. And we will go there when we die. It's almost like a projector and your life is your movie and when you die, the projector picks you up and sorts your soul somewhere else.
Salvia confirmed creator and also simulation theory. Creator is programmer.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77851528 i wasnt going to say anything but I saw a wheel on salvia as well. the moment i started inhaling, far far far in the distance was this little dot. I kept my focus on it as i kept inhaling. the dot got closer and closer and closer, and bigger, until it was so close that the fence in the yard i was in was blocking my view of it. OUT OF NOWHERE, that dot, which was now a circle that was as dark as it was invisible, and that circle flew directly at me and then i was inside it. A couple things happened during this episode: The magic schoolbus broke down the fence and parked in the backyard with miss frizz yelling 'PUT YOUR EFFING SEATBELTS ON' then speeding away. i became part of my friends house and the house would fall apart if i tried to stand up, the bricks would move with me. Then....umm....I was standing up out of nowhere looking at my arms and hands but they looked funny to me, different. I started moving them, looking at them very closely saying 'what the f**k??' because my hands and arms were so different than what I was used to. I get zapped out of the circle and into my body, and 5 feet from me, my best friend (RIP brother) was looking at his arms and hands, moving them going 'what the f**k!' soooo you piece that together. but yeah this all reminded me of that a bit. |
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