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Why are doctors and hospitals so anxious to push chemotherapy on patients?

 
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Why are doctors and hospitals so anxious to push chemotherapy on patients?
My guess is that they and the pharma companies make lots of money on chemo treatments

I am sure that there is a time and a place for it, but am learning you have to be persistant in exploring all options and getting other opinions besides the doc who is actually going to perform the procedure

The problem is, you never really speak to oncologist who is truly independent and objective when it comes to explaining all the options available, and the pros and coms of each

But by default You only speak with people who are affiliated with a certain procedure, and have their own biases
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Re: Why are doctors and hospitals so anxious to push chemotherapy on patients?
You got another way that shows better results in treatment of deadly cancerous conditions?

Last Edited by MarPep on 10/30/2019 11:08 AM
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10/30/2019 11:17 AM
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Re: Why are doctors and hospitals so anxious to push chemotherapy on patients?
Have you ever heard of "money?"



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Re: Why are doctors and hospitals so anxious to push chemotherapy on patients?
While chemo chemicals are a huge money maker:


Oncologists Are trained professionals (mds') who rely on hard scientific data and published peer reviewed studies. Not one-off, anecdotal woo-woo b.s.

After(MY) biopsy the oncologist came in with the results of the microscopic study of the cells, and : charts showing my results and survival statitsics with various treatments. We chose from hard data.

Not: " my uncle had"cancer" and he got "better"with some kind of mushrooms mixed with cannabis oil." stories.

Chemo therapy knocked back my wifes' and my brothers metastatic tumors two different kinds of cancer (producing measurable results verified by MRI/CT&PET scans.).

Chemo is not a complete "cure" ;but it extends life. Hopefully further research will provide an actual cure.
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Re: Why are doctors and hospitals so anxious to push chemotherapy on patients?
You got another way that shows better results in treatment of deadly cancerous conditions?
 Quoting: MarPep


Yes, growing your own perma-culture gardens/orchards, living healthily and avoiding the causes in the first place.
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Re: Why are doctors and hospitals so anxious to push chemotherapy on patients?
You got another way that shows better results in treatment of deadly cancerous conditions?
 Quoting: MarPep


Yes, growing your own perma-culture gardens/orchards, living healthily and avoiding the causes in the first place.
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This.
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Re: Why are doctors and hospitals so anxious to push chemotherapy on patients?
Everything they do is dictated by profit, everything. Doesn't matter whether you need it or not.
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10/30/2019 11:31 AM
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Re: Why are doctors and hospitals so anxious to push chemotherapy on patients?
You got another way that shows better results in treatment of deadly cancerous conditions?
 Quoting: MarPep

Cannabis
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10/30/2019 11:32 AM
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Re: Why are doctors and hospitals so anxious to push chemotherapy on patients?
At one time I did not think of cancer as a cash cow, after watching my mother pass away recently...there is no doubt that cancer is nothing but a cash cow. Hard for me to believe that in watching my uncle die from cancer 45 years ago that the best we have to offer today is chemo and radiation. Get you as close to dying as humanly possible and hope the cancer cells are killed off in the process...there has to be a better way. My mother had no business whatsoever being on chemo, any sane person would look at her overall health and clearly see she was in no condition to handle chemo...but not the oncologist, as far as I’m concerned, the gung ho sob murdered my mom.
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10/30/2019 11:33 AM
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Re: Why are doctors and hospitals so anxious to push chemotherapy on patients?
The Cancer Industry is one of the biggest money makers in history. Why would they want to actually "cure" anyone and end this?
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Re: Why are doctors and hospitals so anxious to push chemotherapy on patients?
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
I am SNOWIE. WELCOME TO THE NEW ICE AGE. TRY NOT TO STARVE.
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Re: Why are doctors and hospitals so anxious to push chemotherapy on patients?
You got another way that shows better results in treatment of deadly cancerous conditions?
 Quoting: MarPep


Yes, growing your own perma-culture gardens/orchards, living healthily and avoiding the causes in the first place.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77996452


And some of us spent our lives working in the world;

I.E. the military and industry where life is not an all organic, solvent-free, stress -free, carcinogen free, bubble.
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Re: Why are doctors and hospitals so anxious to push chemotherapy on patients?
You got another way that shows better results in treatment of deadly cancerous conditions?
 Quoting: MarPep


Yes, growing your own perma-culture gardens/orchards, living healthily and avoiding the causes in the first place.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77996452


And some of us spent our lives working in the world;

I.E. the military and industry where life is not an all organic, solvent-free, stress -free, carcinogen free, bubble.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77376498


Because the system wants as many workers as possible to work positions that *they* want done. They enforce debts and taxes with phony money to make it so.
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Re: Why are doctors and hospitals so anxious to push chemotherapy on patients?
The Cancer Industry is one of the biggest money makers in history. Why would they want to actually "cure" anyone and end this?
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BOOM got it in one sentence
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Re: Why are doctors and hospitals so anxious to push chemotherapy on patients?
You got another way that shows better results in treatment of deadly cancerous conditions?
 Quoting: MarPep


There are no good results from Chemo or radiation. I have read that Chemo is AGENT ORANGE.

Look up Royal Rife or find people on YouTube who CURED their cancer themselves.
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Re: Why are doctors and hospitals so anxious to push chemotherapy on patients?
Diabetes is the new cancer. Sorry, off topic. But diet and exercise can completely reverse type 2, but they don't wanna talk about that.

Same shit with cancer. Feed em sugary jello and white bread in the cancer unit. No attention given to nutrition at all.

I think people survive in spite of chemo not because of it.
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Re: Why are doctors and hospitals so anxious to push chemotherapy on patients?
You got another way that shows better results in treatment of deadly cancerous conditions?
 Quoting: MarPep

Cannabis
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10/30/2019 11:47 AM
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Re: Why are doctors and hospitals so anxious to push chemotherapy on patients?
medicine is the #1 killer not guns
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10/30/2019 11:49 AM
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Re: Why are doctors and hospitals so anxious to push chemotherapy on patients?
The Cancer Industry is one of the biggest money makers in history.
Why would they want to actually "cure" anyone and end this?

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76303870

BOOM got it in one sentence
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10/30/2019 11:52 AM
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Re: Why are doctors and hospitals so anxious to push chemotherapy on patients?
As a cancer survivor ,,,, it can be boiled down...

1 do your homework / find ALL options

2 change you diet for health

A conversation with my oncologist ,,,

tried to armtwist for imunnotherapy

i mentioned ive done my homework

i asked how toxic is chemo ???

He said Very TOXIC !!!

I stated my intent to use alternative therapies...

He said " I will support you 100% "

There are many , several dozen , alternatives.

So...here we are over a year later , going strong
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Re: Why are doctors and hospitals so anxious to push chemotherapy on patients?
The Cancer Industry is one of the biggest money makers in history. Why would they want to actually "cure" anyone and end this?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76303870

BOOM got it in one sentence
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76501170


Over $700,000 to pluck a fist-sized tumor from my friend's head. Then add radiation and now chemo. Don't recall exactly, think he said $4000 per pill, but he does mix things up now.

He always said if he got cancer, he'd never do rad/chemo, because he'd seen others do it. Over a million bucks worth on his father-in-law. But when they told my friend he may only have a month to live, he went for it. That was back in June this year.

Surprising to me, he hasn't been sick or weak much at all, but he smokes high quality weed like a freight train. His thinking and memory is affected, and has some vision problems too.
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Re: Why are doctors and hospitals so anxious to push chemotherapy on patients?
The cure is hidden and will be released soon.Stay Strong.
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10/30/2019 11:59 AM
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Re: Why are doctors and hospitals so anxious to push chemotherapy on patients?
You got another way that shows better results in treatment of deadly cancerous conditions?
 Quoting: MarPep


Asparagus

Broccoli

Green tea

To name a few
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Re: Why are doctors and hospitals so anxious to push chemotherapy on patients?
My question is are all doctors in on it? I mean obviously some must realize something isn’t right with this cancer industry. Or is money enough reason to shut a person up...how can so many blindly follow? Who’s pulling the strings is who I’m interested in.
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Re: Why are doctors and hospitals so anxious to push chemotherapy on patients?
Because it saves people like my late mom (20 more years), sister and wife (both alive).
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Re: Why are doctors and hospitals so anxious to push chemotherapy on patients?
Diabetes is the new cancer. Sorry, off topic. But diet and exercise can completely reverse type 2, but they don't wanna talk about that.

Same shit with cancer. Feed em sugary jello and white bread in the cancer unit. No attention given to nutrition at all.

I think people survive in spite of chemo not because of it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78089523



hesright
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Re: Why are doctors and hospitals so anxious to push chemotherapy on patients?
Because they are evil and greedy.

Gross isn't it.

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Re: Why are doctors and hospitals so anxious to push chemotherapy on patients?
My question is are all doctors in on it? I mean obviously some must realize something isn’t right with this cancer industry. Or is money enough reason to shut a person up...how can so many blindly follow? Who’s pulling the strings is who I’m interested in.
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Years of indoctrination at school

If they lose their jobs they could have children that would suffer.

We need to turn the tide slowly, ween off corporations to avoid further harm.
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Re: Why are doctors and hospitals so anxious to push chemotherapy on patients?
The Cancer Industry is one of the biggest money makers in history. Why would they want to actually "cure" anyone and end this?
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Yep
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Re: Why are doctors and hospitals so anxious to push chemotherapy on patients?
You got another way that shows better results in treatment of deadly cancerous conditions?
 Quoting: MarPep


Yes, growing your own perma-culture gardens/orchards, living healthily and avoiding the causes in the first place.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77996452


Avoiding possible causes is not the same as treating cancer that has already developed.
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Re: Why are doctors and hospitals so anxious to push chemotherapy on patients?
You got another way that shows better results in treatment of deadly cancerous conditions?
 Quoting: MarPep


Get rid of toxins, not add more.





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