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| xenophon
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(OP) User ID: 78079247 Australia10/29/2019 06:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump says Fed is holding US economy back, looks to Japan and Europe who have negative interest rates All economic data apart from the fake 3.5% unemployment rate point to a contracting economy. This has been going on for a while How is the FED holding the economy back when they are the only reason the stock market is at records highs? Most people believe that if the stock market is doing so well the economy must be doing good. It doesn't work like that when you have the FED pumping ten's of trillions of dollars into it. They also managed to rig the yield curve inversion to make it appear normal This Muppet Theatre has no limits Last Edited by Xenophon on 10/29/2019 06:15 PM the 3rd shaking |
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(OP) User ID: 78079247 Australia10/29/2019 06:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump says Fed is holding US economy back, looks to Japan and Europe who have negative interest rates The Bank of Japan (BOJ) keeps trying to print Japan back to economic prosperity, and it is not letting 25 years of failed stimulus policies get in its way. Negative interest rates were announced by the BOJ in January 2016 as the latest iteration in monetary experimentation. Six months later, the Japanese economy showed no growth, and it's bond market was a mess. Conditions have deteriorated so far that the Bank of Tokyo-Mitsubishi UFJ Ltd., Japan's largest private bank, announced in June 2016 that it wanted to leave the Japanese bond markets because BOJ interventions had made them unstable. Globally, there is more than $8 trillion in government bonds trading at negative rates. While this is excellent news for indebted governments, it does little to make businesses more productive or to help low-income households afford more goods and services. Super-low interest rates do not improve the capital stock or improve education and training for labor. Negative interest rates might incentivize banks to withdraw reserve deposits, but they do not create any more creditworthy borrowers or attractive business investments. Japan's NIRP certainly did not make asset markets more rational. By May 2016, the BOJ was a top 10 shareholder in 90% of the stocks listed on the Nikkei 225. There appears to be a disconnect between standard macroeconomic theory by which borrowers, investors, and business managers react fluidly to monetary policy and the real world. The historical record does not kindly reflect governments and banks that have tried to print and manipulate money into prosperity. This may be because currency, as a commodity, does not generate an increased standard of living. Only more and better goods and services can do this, and it should be clear that circulating more bills is not the best way to make more or better things. [link to www.investopedia.com (secure)] the 3rd shaking |
| xenophon
(OP) User ID: 78079247 Australia10/29/2019 06:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump says Fed is holding US economy back, looks to Japan and Europe who have negative interest rates Following our analysis, we believe that negative rates are more likely to have a negative impact for economies and will be of little benefit to consumer and business spending. As banks suffer lower profitability, this will likely affect other sectors as they try to offset their ‘tax’ by lowering the savings rates for depositors and/or raising lending rates to their customers Since business spending, particularly capital expenditure, is more closely related to expectations of future income than cost of funds (as per the table below), lower incomes from negative rates are unlikely to improve on these expectations nor drive capital expenditure. Furthermore, the incentive to offset the cost of negative rates (as a result of lower expectations of future incomes) could result in effort diverted to more short term financial market activity to the neglect of longer term business capital expenditure, which is not good for future productivity growth and long term prosperity. Overall, the cost of negative interest rates will eventually affect all other sectors and wider parts of the economy, exactly as a tax hike would. Without any increase in expenditure, the impact on the economy will be fundamentally slower growth. [link to static.macquarie.com] the 3rd shaking |
| wisconsin
User ID: 78067802  United States10/29/2019 06:55 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump says Fed is holding US economy back, looks to Japan and Europe who have negative interest rates . ... the usofa DOES HAVE a us treasury ... maybe THIS will be coming back? ... . . Our family celebrates The Lord's Feasts: [link to www.grafted-promise.net] Fools and the dead don't change their minds. Fools won't and the dead can't. When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar. You are only telling the world that you fear what he might say. Quoting: CountryWise Amos 5:13 - Therefore at such a time the prudent person keeps silent, for it is an evil time. |
| wisconsin
User ID: 78067802 United States10/29/2019 06:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump says Fed is holding US economy back, looks to Japan and Europe who have negative interest rates . ... maybe Prez Trump is forcing the PRIVATE corporation/business (federal reserve) to go bankrupt? ... . . Our family celebrates The Lord's Feasts: [link to www.grafted-promise.net] Fools and the dead don't change their minds. Fools won't and the dead can't. When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar. You are only telling the world that you fear what he might say. Quoting: CountryWise Amos 5:13 - Therefore at such a time the prudent person keeps silent, for it is an evil time. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77470462 United States10/29/2019 07:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump says Fed is holding US economy back, looks to Japan and Europe who have negative interest rates A negative interest rate forces banks to lend and borrowers to borrow. Banks will lose money if they are not lending. means inflation which means relaxation of lending standards which means defaults galore. You can also look at it as people or lazy and need to be forced to work harder by forcing them to take loans or be homeless |
| xenophon
(OP) User ID: 78123270 Australia10/29/2019 07:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump says Fed is holding US economy back, looks to Japan and Europe who have negative interest rates . Quoting: wisconsin ... maybe Prez Trump is forcing the PRIVATE corporation/business (federal reserve) to go bankrupt? ... . The US Treasury should take control from the fed, as far as draining the swamp goes that would be biggest move against it possible. The rest of the world would follow. Ron Paul was the only one who was going to do it This latest round of QE/intervention/expansion by the fed is making them more powerful than ever before the 3rd shaking |
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| xenophon
(OP) User ID: 78123270 Australia10/29/2019 07:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump says Fed is holding US economy back, looks to Japan and Europe who have negative interest rates |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78122671 United States10/29/2019 07:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump says Fed is holding US economy back, looks to Japan and Europe who have negative interest rates LMAO. Europe's negative interest rate economy is a disaster and Japan has been all done for 20 years. Get ready to pay up for privilege of just breathing in their system... ...and official unemployment will be 15% (meaning, 50% in real terms) But hey, the stock market will look GREAT for a little while longer... |
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| xenophon
(OP) User ID: 78123270 Australia10/29/2019 07:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump says Fed is holding US economy back, looks to Japan and Europe who have negative interest rates A negative interest rate forces banks to lend and borrowers to borrow. Banks will lose money if they are not lending. means inflation which means relaxation of lending standards which means defaults galore. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77470462 You can also look at it as people or lazy and need to be forced to work harder by forcing them to take loans or be homeless They are also like a tax on banks which would be passed on the customers. Would kill the money market Banks would receive interest when borrowing from reserve banks but customers will always pay interest on loans and lose on savings the 3rd shaking |
| xenophon
(OP) User ID: 78123270 Australia10/29/2019 07:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump says Fed is holding US economy back, looks to Japan and Europe who have negative interest rates [link to youtu.be (secure)]  Last Edited by Xenophon on 10/29/2019 07:20 PM the 3rd shaking |
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User ID: 78120543 United States10/29/2019 09:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump says Fed is holding US economy back, looks to Japan and Europe who have negative interest rates “These truths are well known among our principal men, who are now engaged in forming an imperialism to govern the world. By dividing the voter through the political party system, we can get them to expend their energies in fighting for questions of no importance. “It is thus, by discrete action, we can secure for ourselves that which has been so well planned and so successfully accomplished.” ~ Montagu Norman, Governor of The Bank Of England, addressing the United States Bankers’ Association, NYC 1924 Some Will. Some won't. So....... |
| xenophon
(OP) User ID: 78079247 Australia10/29/2019 09:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump says Fed is holding US economy back, looks to Japan and Europe who have negative interest rates when governments become lawless and arbitrary, citizens have the right to overthrow the regime and institute a new government by peaceful means or force if necessary Both the fed cabal and our governments are lawless and arbitrary Last Edited by Xenophon on 10/29/2019 09:56 PM the 3rd shaking |
| xenophon
(OP) User ID: 78079247 Australia10/30/2019 12:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump says Fed is holding US economy back, looks to Japan and Europe who have negative interest rates This latest round of QE and move towards negative interest rates is the final nail in the coffin Complete and absolute takeover by the fed/reserve banking cabal on all fronts with no resistance Thank you for the music the 3rd shaking |
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