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Hard Rock Hotel Crane Implosion Today Between Noon and 5pm

 
Gemini Rising  (OP)

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I must say, this is the first time I'm seeing this whole thing up close.

This is a mess and an engineering or construction fuckup of monumental proportions. It'll be one that get's studied hard and they make "Epic disaster" shows about.

I would not be shocked if this thing didn't make it till tomorrow.
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Right. I will keep checking the news for updates. They said one of the cranes had shifted and is leaning further than before. This hotel was doomed from the start.
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I must say, this is the first time I'm seeing this whole thing up close.

This is a mess and an engineering or construction fuckup of monumental proportions. It'll be one that get's studied hard and they make "Epic disaster" shows about.

I would not be shocked if this thing didn't make it till tomorrow.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77517484


Right. I will keep checking the news for updates. They said one of the cranes had shifted and is leaning further than before. This hotel was doomed from the start.
 Quoting: Gemini Rising


is this the first hard rock hotel? I tried to search but the only thing that came up was this event
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is this the first hard rock hotel? I tried to search but the only thing that came up was this event
 Quoting: bigfoot22

There are several.

[link to www.hardrockhotels.com (secure)]
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I must say, this is the first time I'm seeing this whole thing up close.

This is a mess and an engineering or construction fuckup of monumental proportions. It'll be one that get's studied hard and they make "Epic disaster" shows about.

I would not be shocked if this thing didn't make it till tomorrow.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77517484


Right. I will keep checking the news for updates. They said one of the cranes had shifted and is leaning further than before. This hotel was doomed from the start.
 Quoting: Gemini Rising


There is tons and tons of loose collapse debris still hanging, more or less, by threads. To me that can only mean one thing. The whole building where the damage is is too unstable to get any of that mess out of there.

With the tower cranes compromised and whatever part of the building that was the anchoring for them severely compromised, it's a very dangerous situation. It also sounds as if they underestimated just how bad it is and I'm sure they already knew it was pretty fucking bad.

You don't loose this much of a building because of a couple of missing bolts or a small problem. This is some kind of systemic flaw and the whole building will likely have to come down, or should come down anyway.

Whether it was construction or design, we don't know, but I'm sure they'll know soon enough if they don't already and just aren't making it public.

This thing is about a dozen train wrecks all waiting to happen at once.

Hopefully they can pick it apart bit by bit before it goes off the rails.
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I am down here, and I am not going anywhere near that mess.
 Quoting: Gemini Rising

Please don't.

News conf just said just the counter weights are 40 tons, each? and "no one" has ever done this before?

This is sounding worse by the minute.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77517484


40 tons is nothing.


The towers were 500,000 tons apiece, and tards are still arguing that they would magically stay standing after airplanes crashed into them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77134005

Yeah well that's a very compact 40 tons. Drop that block 200 ft into the anything? It's going through it.

They were saying gas lines under the street? Like dropping a brick on butter.
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Oh lord, what about the crumbling drainage system running under the streets and the sewage and water systems?

This could get ugly.
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Please don't.

News conf just said just the counter weights are 40 tons, each? and "no one" has ever done this before?

This is sounding worse by the minute.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77517484


40 tons is nothing.


The towers were 500,000 tons apiece, and tards are still arguing that they would magically stay standing after airplanes crashed into them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77134005

Yeah well that's a very compact 40 tons. Drop that block 200 ft into the anything? It's going through it.

They were saying gas lines under the street? Like dropping a brick on butter.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77517484

Oh lord, what about the crumbling drainage system running under the streets and the sewage and water systems?

This could get ugly.
 Quoting: Loup Garou


Imagine hitting a plate of mashed potatoes with a hammer.

Cause that'll pretty much be what it's like.
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I am down here, and I am not going anywhere near that mess.
 Quoting: Gemini Rising

Please don't.

News conf just said just the counter weights are 40 tons, each? and "no one" has ever done this before?

This is sounding worse by the minute.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77517484


40 tons is nothing.


The towers were 500,000 tons apiece, and tards are still arguing that they would magically stay standing after airplanes crashed into them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77134005

Yeah well that's a very compact 40 tons. Drop that block 200 ft into the anything? It's going through it.

They were saying gas lines under the street? Like dropping a brick on butter.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77517484


True that, they might go so deep into the Orleans swamp they just leave them there!
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Delayed till Noon Sunday now...more popcorn tomorrow lolpopcorn
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Now saying NOT BEFORE noon Sunday ....

The demolition crews are probably sweating bullets just being up there placing the explosives since those cranes could come down on their own while the explosive crews are right there.

Those crews should be getting a full year's pay for this weekend of work ... and allowed to take the next three months off to go drinking after they are finished.
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[link to www.nola.com (secure)]

From the article:

Two giant, badly damaged construction cranes towering over a partially collapsed hotel project are to be demolished Saturday with a series of controlled explosions in hopes of dropping them straight down without damaging nearby businesses and historic buildings around the site at the edge of the French Quarter.

New Orleans Fire Department Superintendent Tim McConnell described a plan involving workers suspended from another crane using blow torches and attaching explosives at key points. One of the crane towers is about 270 feet high, the other is taller. Both have massive cross arms adding more tonnage. Neither is stable.

McConnell said an already wide evacuation area around the site would be expanded ahead of the explosion. Gas to a major utility line that runs along North Rampart Street was being shut down and steps were being taken to protect that line and underground electrical lines that could be affected by falling debris. McConnell said the line would be severely damaged were a crane to land on it.

If the operation is successful, McConnell said, the towers will drop vertically and simultaneously. "Think of it like it's melting," he told reporters.
 Quoting: Gemini Rising

Lol what is prvailing wage to be dangled from a crane with a torch and explosives working on an unstable structure? Is OSHA ok with this?
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is this the first hard rock hotel? I tried to search but the only thing that came up was this event
 Quoting: bigfoot22

There are several.

[link to www.hardrockhotels.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Gemini Rising


I think that was sarcasm.
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is this the first hard rock hotel? I tried to search but the only thing that came up was this event
 Quoting: bigfoot22

There are several.

[link to www.hardrockhotels.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Gemini Rising


I think that was sarcasm.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77497363


Until we have a sarcasm font, I try to give people the benefit of a doubt. So, I did a search and gave them an actual answer.
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Please don't.

News conf just said just the counter weights are 40 tons, each? and "no one" has ever done this before?

This is sounding worse by the minute.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77517484


40 tons is nothing.


The towers were 500,000 tons apiece, and tards are still arguing that they would magically stay standing after airplanes crashed into them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77134005

Yeah well that's a very compact 40 tons. Drop that block 200 ft into the anything? It's going through it.

They were saying gas lines under the street? Like dropping a brick on butter.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77517484


True that, they might go so deep into the Orleans swamp they just leave them there!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77134005

The salvage crews will have a field day wherever they land this mess!

I'm assuming that they'll have to more or less tip the cranes into the building as a "landing pad", but that isn't how the cranes are situated now so who the hell knows.

If they actually came straight down? those weights are going to hit outside the building foot print. Maybe they can't rotate them, maybe they are waiting until the last hour because the crane structure is suspect.

Should be interesting to watch in any case.

Hopefully they can drop these towers without cause too much more damage.

Temp change once night fall comes is another thing to add on the pile.
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is this the first hard rock hotel? I tried to search but the only thing that came up was this event
 Quoting: bigfoot22

There are several.

[link to www.hardrockhotels.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Gemini Rising


I think that was sarcasm.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77497363


Until we have a sarcasm font, I try to give people the benefit of a doubt. So, I did a search and gave them an actual answer.
 Quoting: Gemini Rising


Hope the Giant Guitar at the Hollywood Hardrock doesn't blow a pic-guard...I can be found there from time to time!
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[link to www.nola.com (secure)]

From the article:

Two giant, badly damaged construction cranes towering over a partially collapsed hotel project are to be demolished Saturday with a series of controlled explosions in hopes of dropping them straight down without damaging nearby businesses and historic buildings around the site at the edge of the French Quarter.

New Orleans Fire Department Superintendent Tim McConnell described a plan involving workers suspended from another crane using blow torches and attaching explosives at key points. One of the crane towers is about 270 feet high, the other is taller. Both have massive cross arms adding more tonnage. Neither is stable.

McConnell said an already wide evacuation area around the site would be expanded ahead of the explosion. Gas to a major utility line that runs along North Rampart Street was being shut down and steps were being taken to protect that line and underground electrical lines that could be affected by falling debris. McConnell said the line would be severely damaged were a crane to land on it.

If the operation is successful, McConnell said, the towers will drop vertically and simultaneously. "Think of it like it's melting," he told reporters.
 Quoting: Gemini Rising

Lol what is prvailing wage to be dangled from a crane with a torch and explosives working on an unstable structure? Is OSHA ok with this?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77497363

Probably time and half plus comp'd buffet, for life.
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is this the first hard rock hotel? I tried to search but the only thing that came up was this event
 Quoting: bigfoot22

There are several.

[link to www.hardrockhotels.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Gemini Rising


I think that was sarcasm.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77497363


Until we have a sarcasm font, I try to give people the benefit of a doubt. So, I did a search and gave them an actual answer.
 Quoting: Gemini Rising


Sarcasm font 8s a great idea. There have been hard rocks in every major city I've worked in or been to, internationally.
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The two cranes will be imploded today, around noon. A local tv station is streaming a view of the hotel.

Here is the story:
[link to www.wwltv.com (secure)]



*Update: The demolition is postponed to Sunday afternoon, no exact time given yet.
 Quoting: Gemini Rising


Hard Rock Hotel owner missed deadline to pay for crane demolition The demolition team required $5 million payment prior to implosion...

[link to www.wwltv.com (secure)]


Money, money, money. It is always about the money.
Just because YOU don’t believe
in the Rougarou; or the Loup Garou, don’t make you safe; No !

The Constitution is a blend of 'moral certitude' -- which is one of the reasons that criminals are determined to be rid of it and We the People must be even more determined to defend it.

"If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." - Thomas Paine

The only thing the Illuminati fears is an independent person who can live, eat, sleep, stay warm and defend themselves separate from Federal help. Pray that the Lord gives us more time! The End is near and time is short!

A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion. ~Proverbs 18:2


For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not understand, no explanation is possible

"A candle loses nothing by lighting another candle" - James Keller

Checkd, Keked, and Rekt!

#Kids2
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looks like a stack of pancakes today.
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The two cranes will be imploded today, around noon. A local tv station is streaming a view of the hotel.

Here is the story:
[link to www.wwltv.com (secure)]



*Update: The demolition is postponed to Sunday afternoon, no exact time given yet.
 Quoting: Gemini Rising


Hard Rock Hotel owner missed deadline to pay for crane demolition The demolition team required $5 million payment prior to implosion...

[link to www.wwltv.com (secure)]


Money, money, money. It is always about the money.
 Quoting: Loup Garou


Yikes! It just gets worse. Tomorrow should be interesting, whether they go ahead with the implosion or not.
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Here is the document dump, full timeline from start to crash.

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Just because YOU don’t believe
in the Rougarou; or the Loup Garou, don’t make you safe; No !

The Constitution is a blend of 'moral certitude' -- which is one of the reasons that criminals are determined to be rid of it and We the People must be even more determined to defend it.

"If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." - Thomas Paine

The only thing the Illuminati fears is an independent person who can live, eat, sleep, stay warm and defend themselves separate from Federal help. Pray that the Lord gives us more time! The End is near and time is short!

A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion. ~Proverbs 18:2


For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not understand, no explanation is possible

"A candle loses nothing by lighting another candle" - James Keller

Checkd, Keked, and Rekt!

#Kids2
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This what they said they were building, but we all see that they cheated.

[link to www.documentcloud.org (secure)]
Just because YOU don’t believe
in the Rougarou; or the Loup Garou, don’t make you safe; No !

The Constitution is a blend of 'moral certitude' -- which is one of the reasons that criminals are determined to be rid of it and We the People must be even more determined to defend it.

"If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." - Thomas Paine

The only thing the Illuminati fears is an independent person who can live, eat, sleep, stay warm and defend themselves separate from Federal help. Pray that the Lord gives us more time! The End is near and time is short!

A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion. ~Proverbs 18:2


For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not understand, no explanation is possible

"A candle loses nothing by lighting another candle" - James Keller

Checkd, Keked, and Rekt!

#Kids2
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Dumbasses.i emailed them and offered to stabilize them for about 8k plus cable.
There's nothing wrong with the cranes!
Maybe at the lower joints but stabilizing up high would have held as they lowered down each section and the towers would have gained more strength as the loads were lifted off top.i built towers for twenty years and there goes a million bucks.odds are both together cost that much.
Ty o.p. for the update.i thought the buildings were being blown,not the cranes.
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Man those cranes are worth a lot of money. Damn, for it all to just come crashing down into a rubble heap is disheartening for the owners of the cranes.

Will the insurance company pay for their destruction?
 Quoting: Loup Garou


Color me confused. I see the two cranes that look fine. I see the building that looks like OLD collapsed metal of several floors like half the building on that one corner.
What caused it? It looked like it was like that before any "crane" collapsed.
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Man those cranes are worth a lot of money. Damn, for it all to just come crashing down into a rubble heap is disheartening for the owners of the cranes.

Will the insurance company pay for their destruction?
 Quoting: Loup Garou


Color me confused. I see the two cranes that look fine. I see the building that looks like OLD collapsed metal of several floors like half the building on that one corner.
What caused it? It looked like it was like that before any "crane" collapsed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77797702


The building is NEW construction. You are looking at concrete floors that pancaked. Watch this video, pay attention to the cranes. The cranes shifted during the collapse and are no longer standing straight. If they are not taken down via a controlled demolition, they will collapse by themselves and possibly fall onto the neighboring buildings.

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So it looks like, from the comments on Youtube, that the Implosion is scheduled for Noon (CDT).

Hopefully there will not be another delay.
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Owners hired illegal aliens to do much of the work which means,they are cutting corners to save money which means,cheap sub-standard materials and very likely,paid off inspectors and building codes not met.

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Who doesn't own Hard Rock?
MbS?
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The idiots who erected the failed cranes probably had parents who owned one of these POS cars with the fake Corinthian leather.

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