My step daughter is being stalked by her soon to be ex-husband, need some info

Not you, don't put yourself in legal jeopardy. Find 10 or so big ass MFers that he doesn't know and let them discuss his options with him.

Kindly and nonthreateningly the first time. But firmly let him know there is no second "discussion".

Have them suggest counseling. Seriously, would do everyone good - him the most.

His actions spring from fear and a lack of feelings of self worth and self confidence. If you can help him grow there you may end up with a loyal and invaluable ally.

Now THAT made me laugh. And then agree with you.

Get two books:

The Sociopath Next Door

The Gift of Fear (Gavin DeBecker).

I would also like to point out that a restraining order is worse than useless, for giving a false sense of protection.

lol, you never really kill them, you just make them think that you're just crazy enough to

Larry, you already have great advice from many good people.

Wishing your daughter luck. The guy sounds like a malignant narcissist. It will take a lot of willpower to get rid of him. She's fortunate to have you to back her up.

A while back I bought a few GPS jamming devices that plug into your lighter socket. I gave them to family and friends. When plugged in, all GPS devices in and around the car are useless. I gave one away to a member here and have one spare I kept for myself in case I loose one of mine or one stops working.

I will loan you m spare if you will promise to send it back when she no longer needs it.
send me a PM with your address and I will mail it Monday

If she won't use a real firearm, a squirt gun filled with 100% TCA will send his ass packing past, and make him easy to identify post intrusion.

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Truth, pure truth!

Hey there Larry, sorry to hear about this, I had no idea, first time I've seen the thread.

If there's anything I can do to help, PM me - I'm good for tech type advice if nothing else.

Best to you and your family... I have gorilla gloves should you need.

Then NPD convinces her she is the insane one, and he is her victim.

If the tracker is on her car it may be hard to find.
It may be easy to locate for trackers that broadcast constantly but there are so many that it may be impossible to find them all.

I would suggest she get a Car Battery cut off device installed.
She would have to open her hood and turn the switch but it would block all power going out from the car battery.

There are tiny trackers that use cell phone tech to track location. Some have to be called before they transmit their info, some may broadcast when they detect their main power score is turned off and others broadcast at specified times. They can be hard wired into almost anything on the car that uses power. One could be hidden behind a tail light or headlight. They are so small that the batteries are pretty weak and need charged constantly. Finding one of these would be almost impossible of someone that knew what they are doing installed it.

Not necessarily, but yes "phone" related. Don't rule out the possibility that he bought another phone for the sole purpose of hiding it somewhere in the car (like duct taped inside a door panel) just to track her movements.

Perhaps she and Dad could switch cars for a while?

Apparently she's initiating the divorce, and because of her, that one-year-old will not grow up with their two original parents at home.

That's the one thing we know that she's done. We don't know what else either of them has done. I can't take either side firmly on so little information.

Thanks, LJS. They did have the initial hearing to create the temporary orders necessary until the final decree is issued; here it's 120 days.

He was asking for essentially full custody, commissioner made it 50/50.

He and his attorney tried to "introduce" recordings and videos off his phone; commissioner said "I really don't care about that, it's not relevant to what we're here to do today.

Everything I'd coached her to ask for she got (and it was all very modest, not trying to put anyone at an unnecessary disadvantage) and I thought he was gonna start bawling when all was said and done.

She's found an duplex close to her work and is out of the house. Which he is now saying "hmm, with child care costs I'm not sure I'm going to be able to stay in the house..." Not child support, just the babysitter he'd been paying $16 an hour.

We're making progress, thanks for your interest.

Just hire Guido to break a leg if he get within 50 ft.

And while what little we know of the story is consistent with this assessment, it's mainly because we hardly know anything, so any other assessment is also possible.

As a matter of fact you're wrong. He cleaned out their accounts and then served her with papers, she didn't "initiate" a thing. Why the fuck do you insist on making shit up in your pointy head and then assuming it's fact? Ever hear of asking a question, you fucking twerp? Damn, some people...

Control your anger. Or not, I don't care.

I made up a scenario that still was possible after 4 pages of posts. He cleaned out the accounts and filed, and he's still getting 50%? What else don't we know?

Enough! Go away.

Your Ka.rma history shows what kind of twattroll you are.

I concur.

My ex died. pancreatic cancer got him. Thank god. He was always threatening to move down here to NC. He had a wife and 2 new girls. They found out late he was schizo. Yeah. Now, his widow is realizing the hell I went thru. She started to experience the same crazy, sexist shit I did.
It's a good thing he's gone. And his wicked mother just died about 3 weeks ago. God is good.

Carry her phone around for a day. If you see him, then that's it.

Drive her car around for a day. If you see him, that's it.


Don't get rid of the phone in any case. Use the 1,000 dollar she would have to spend on a new iPhone to pay a scary mofo's to visit him to send him a message.
Depending on where you live, it could only cost a couple hundred.
Seriously, scare the living piss out of the little narcissistic shit.

She has to move. Sorry but the only way to lose him would be to sell her car and possessions. Pack a suitcase, rent a car and move out of town. A long ways out of town, like multiple states away.

Go to the social security office and change her name. They allow you to do this if you want to. Tell her to pick a new last name and to change her name and see if she can change the baby's name too. I don't know about the baby but she should be able to. Do not let anyone know the new name or where she's going. She has to drop all her friends and maybe some relatives. And never talk to them again. Shut down all social media in her old name and walk away from it. She can make a new social media with her new name.

I had a stalker. The law would not do a damn thing about him but this was before all the stalking laws they have now. I ran over him once with my car. Somehow he didn't get hurt because I guess my car just went over him and he laughed at me. And kept stalking me. Would leave roses on the front seat of my locked car. He was an auto mechanic.

She needs to go to a state(check the state and see if they do this before moving) and file for a divorce and state that she doesn't know where he was and they will tell her to put an ad in the paper looking for him in the last known location where she knew he was located at. He abandoned her is the charge so she wants full custody and no child support. She will not be able to get any welfare or Medicaid because they will want the father's name to go after him for child support. She can not have that happen. She is on her own. All mail sent to her must be sent by handing it to the postmaster, at the post office. And she must use a PO box for this mail from y'all, preferably in another town over from where she's living.

My stalker was so good that he conned my Mom into telling him where I was once. And somehow, he could get my unlisted phone number that I had changed quite frequently because of it until I got tired and went to the phone company and threw a fit about my privacy being violated and the cost of changing my number because he kept getting it.

As she is not divorced yet, her ex can take that kid at any time and no one will step in to help her because they are not divorced yet with a custody agreement in place. And unless she has proof he is a danger to her and the kid, he will have access to the kid by the courts. She must beat him to the courts and she must claim not to know where he lives.

Sorry but that's the only way to do this. And if he finds her in the new location, she is on her own. So she must also have a small nest egg to run on if she has to run. This is a big game she is playing with this creep and she wants to have an Ace in the hole ya know.

The only other way is to kill him.

Two choices. Move and change your name and do not have contact with anyone from her old life except family that knows this situation. The rest of the family must not be told as he will get the info from one of them. Or he must die.

I do not look over my shoulder. I fought him. I could not get a restraining order because the judge told me that would give me a license to kill him. And I would have too. I wasn't playing with the creep. I carried a gun everywhere and he knew it. He also knew that I had no problem using it. I carried my gun illegally in the state of Texas where I was facing 10 years if I got caught with it. It was me or him and it wasn't going to be me.

If she is not willing to move, she is gonna have to whip his ass and bad enough that he is scared of her. But it has to be legal or he will get her kid. I didn't have a kid so I had nothing to worry about there.

I got angry when he freaked me out and wouldn't quit stalking me from the very start of it. At first, I was scared. But after I thought about it, I got very, very angry. I would go to his house, knock on the door and throw his presents back in his face. I had a kill switch put in my car so you could not drive it if you didn't hit that switch.

Do not lay down if you are not going to run. But these days, get it on camera and tape. Keep texts and other things. Document this crap. And fight back. Get a tazer (shocker) and shock the crap out of him if he comes close. Put an electric charge on the car at night so no one touches it. LOL

I've always been a hellcat so I guess that's why I got angry. He was not running me around scared. I refused to be scared of that. She needs to take some lessons on how to fight and punch the shyt outta him if he comes close to her. Do not count on the restraining order as he will walk right through that crap. But you do want it in case she has to shoot him. Shows he is a danger and you are protecting yourself from him.

Or you could do what was already suggest and I thought about doing that back then too. Set his ass up with a few baggies, not just one, but enough baggies and some cash in a bag for him to be busted with it as a dealer of said dope. Get him sent to jail. But he will know it's her and when he gets out, he will come looking for her and he will be very upset at this point. And she will get no notice of his release to be watching for him. She could always ask him to go out and put something in his food/drink to make him OD. But it does take a special type of person to kill someone and I did not seem to have it in me. Shame. But God takes care of me so.... I couldn't do either of these things but I did fantasize. LOL

Good luck and tell her she is gonna have to defend herself. Pronto!!! Fighting lessons if she doesn't know how. I learned on the mean streets to fight but some people are not as "lucky" as I was to learn that. LOL Good luck. She will need it.

Winter coat and handbag/tote are other good places for tracking/listening devices.

And then she is a sitting duck and he kills her.

(((( hugs ))))

I will never feel completely safe until my ex is dead.

I don't know if someone already mentioned this, but there is an app that can track on*