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Why auto-shotgun is good for home defense.

 
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An old farmer who owned shotguns, deer rifles, and pistols would reach for the shotgun when something was up at night.

We used the shotgun in WWI. The Germans complained to whatever the Geneva convention was called at that time, to no avail.

For close encounters of the criminal kind the 12 gauge shot gun rules the world.
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I currently have a 9mm and .38 Special, but this has peaked my interest. Five dead in seven seconds.
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In Canada you will go to jail if you shoot an intruder at your own home. Guaranteed. You may get out of jail after a trial, but the media will have doxxed you and your family.
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Come in my god damn house and your done fuck the law!
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It's always better to be judged by than carried by 6.
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Exactly

Plus you don't break in to some ones house and not expect to be filleted if confronted!
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OMG,I love those things. Next best thing to a good old tommy gun. Load up some slugs and blammo.
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I currently have a 9mm and .38 Special, but this has peaked my interest. Five dead in seven seconds.
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In Canada you will go to jail if you shoot an intruder at your own home. Guaranteed. You may get out of jail after a trial, but the media will have doxxed you and your family.
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Come in my god damn house and your done fuck the law!

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It's always better to be judged by than carried by 6.

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Exactly.

Which is better:

A) The innocent homeowner and family are buried, while the scumbag intruder goes to jail for a few years and is released.

or

B) The scumbag intruder is buried, while the innocent homeowner and the family is alive and well, and maybe the homeowner goes to prison for a few years, but at least he is alive and so is his family.
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I have best defense in the world. I have God and i trust Him 100% and i dont need any weapons. Because i know that His angels are guarding me 24/7. Everything else is for fear controlled people.
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It's ok to pray for rain, but you still have to plant the seed.
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I have best defense in the world. I have God and i trust Him 100% and i dont need any weapons. Because i know that His angels are guarding me 24/7. Everything else is for fear controlled people.
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It's ok to pray for rain, but you still have to plant the seed.
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Didn’t jesus say to sell your stuff and buy a sword?
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The problem with any semi auto shotgun is that the air return tube must be in tune and well tested with whatever type of shell you will be using, in other words, semi auto shotguns aren’t generally reliable across wide variety of shells.
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^^^ This a pump shotgun is much more reliable and resistant to jams.
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I currently have a 9mm and .38 Special, but this has peaked my interest. Five dead in seven seconds.
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 Quoting: Busterhymen

A Pump shotgun is a better choice for home defense.

The cops always use to break up bar fights in my town by going to the bar's door and racking a round into the chamber.
Nothing stops a bar fight quicker, than the sound of racking a pump shotgun.
Everybody knows that sound and it makes them stop and think.

I think the same thing will apply to most common thieves and intruders.
If they run away and you do not have to shoot them, so you save yourself a lot of legal grief.
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snapping the bolt shut on a semi-auto also makes a distinct sound. Hard to mistake it for anything other than a gun.
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I have best defense in the world. I have God and i trust Him 100% and i dont need any weapons. Because i know that His angels are guarding me 24/7. Everything else is for fear controlled people.
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............and I trust that you have no locks on the doors and windows of your house and car?
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I have best defense in the world. I have God and i trust Him 100% and i dont need any weapons. Because i know that His angels are guarding me 24/7. Everything else is for fear controlled people.
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Does God bring you food and money and take you to work. A gun is just a tool for protection like a car is a tool to take you to work and a phone is a tool to call 911. If you are having a heart attack you don’t just pray to God you call 911 to take you to the hospital.
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I have best defense in the world. I have God and i trust Him 100% and i dont need any weapons. Because i know that His angels are guarding me 24/7. Everything else is for fear controlled people.
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Has the thought ever occurred to you that he wants you to be an active participant in your self-defense and life.

"Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one." ~ Luke 22:36
Come on and take a free ride.
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I have best defense in the world. I have God and i trust Him 100% and i dont need any weapons. Because i know that His angels are guarding me 24/7. Everything else is for fear controlled people.
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Does God bring you food and money and take you to work. A gun is just a tool for protection like a car is a tool to take you to work and a phone is a tool to call 911. If you are having a heart attack you don’t just pray to God you call 911 to take you to the hospital.
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He does, except he comes in the form of a pimply faced teenager driving a 20-year-old beater wearing a Pizza Hut uniform.
Come on and take a free ride.
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I currently have a 9mm and .38 Special, but this has peaked my interest. Five dead in seven seconds.
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oh look its got a gun ?
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I have best defense in the world. I have God and i trust Him 100% and i dont need any weapons. Because i know that His angels are guarding me 24/7. Everything else is for fear controlled people.
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............and I trust that you have no locks on the doors and windows of your house and car?
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I dont have a car. And doors are always open, windows are closed because insects can get in.
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I have best defense in the world. I have God and i trust Him 100% and i dont need any weapons. Because i know that His angels are guarding me 24/7. Everything else is for fear controlled people.
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Has the thought ever occurred to you that he wants you to be an active participant in your self-defense and life.

"Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one." ~ Luke 22:36
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He wants me to follow His will, and trust Him 100%. Jesus and first Christians never killed anyone, they were killed with their families. Modern christianity and "christians" are full of shit, they are with this world, and they lost connection with God. Modern christians see what they want to see in bible. They are not following God and Holy Spirit 24/7. They are following their animal instincts.
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I have best defense in the world. I have God and i trust Him 100% and i dont need any weapons. Because i know that His angels are guarding me 24/7. Everything else is for fear controlled people.
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Has the thought ever occurred to you that he wants you to be an active participant in your self-defense and life.

"Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one." ~ Luke 22:36
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91 He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty.

2 I will say of the Lord, He is my refuge and my fortress: my God; in him will I trust.

3 Surely he shall deliver thee from the snare of the fowler, and from the noisome pestilence.

4 He shall cover thee with his feathers, and under his wings shalt thou trust: his truth shall be thy shield and buckler.

5 Thou shalt not be afraid for the terror by night; nor for the arrow that flieth by day;

6 Nor for the pestilence that walketh in darkness; nor for the destruction that wasteth at noonday.

7 A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand; but it shall not come nigh thee.

8 Only with thine eyes shalt thou behold and see the reward of the wicked.
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I have best defense in the world. I have God and i trust Him 100% and i dont need any weapons. Because i know that His angels are guarding me 24/7. Everything else is for fear controlled people.
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Has the thought ever occurred to you that he wants you to be an active participant in your self-defense and life.

"Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one." ~ Luke 22:36
 Quoting: DeplorableDoomsdayGuy


He wants me to follow His will, and trust Him 100%. Jesus and first Christians never killed anyone, they were killed with their families. Modern christianity and "christians" are full of shit, they are with this world, and they lost connection with God. Modern christians see what they want to see in bible. They are not following God and Holy Spirit 24/7. They are following their animal instincts.
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what is your interpretation of Luke 22:36?
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I currently have a 9mm and .38 Special, but this has peaked my interest. Five dead in seven seconds.
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In Canada you will go to jail if you shoot an intruder at your own home. Guaranteed. You may get out of jail after a trial, but the media will have doxxed you and your family.
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oh well
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I have best defense in the world. I have God and i trust Him 100% and i dont need any weapons. Because i know that His angels are guarding me 24/7. Everything else is for fear controlled people.
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Has the thought ever occurred to you that he wants you to be an active participant in your self-defense and life.

"Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one." ~ Luke 22:36
 Quoting: DeplorableDoomsdayGuy


He wants me to follow His will, and trust Him 100%. Jesus and first Christians never killed anyone, they were killed with their families. Modern christianity and "christians" are full of shit, they are with this world, and they lost connection with God. Modern christians see what they want to see in bible. They are not following God and Holy Spirit 24/7. They are following their animal instincts.
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what is your interpretation of Luke 22:36?
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One of His disciples tried to use that sword, to cut other guys ear. I think it was a same sword. And what happened after His disciple cut the ear?

"91 He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty.

2 I will say of the Lord, He is my refuge and my fortress: my God; in him will I trust.

3 Surely he shall deliver thee from the snare of the fowler, and from the noisome pestilence.

4 He shall cover thee with his feathers, and under his wings shalt thou trust: his truth shall be thy shield and buckler.

5 Thou shalt not be afraid for the terror by night; nor for the arrow that flieth by day;

6 Nor for the pestilence that walketh in darkness; nor for the destruction that wasteth at noonday.

7 A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand; but it shall not come nigh thee.

8 Only with thine eyes shalt thou behold and see the reward of the wicked."

that sword was there to be a lesson for his disciples
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I have best defense in the world. I have God and i trust Him 100% and i dont need any weapons. Because i know that His angels are guarding me 24/7. Everything else is for fear controlled people.
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Has the thought ever occurred to you that he wants you to be an active participant in your self-defense and life.

"Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one." ~ Luke 22:36
 Quoting: DeplorableDoomsdayGuy


He wants me to follow His will, and trust Him 100%. Jesus and first Christians never killed anyone, they were killed with their families. Modern christianity and "christians" are full of shit, they are with this world, and they lost connection with God. Modern christians see what they want to see in bible. They are not following God and Holy Spirit 24/7. They are following their animal instincts.
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what is your interpretation of Luke 22:36?
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And, behold, one of them which were with Jesus stretched out his hand, and drew his sword, and struck a servant of the high priest's, and smote off his ear.

52 Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword.
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In Canada you will go to jail if you shoot an intruder at your own home. Guaranteed. You may get out of jail after a trial, but the media will have doxxed you and your family.
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Come in my god damn house and your done fuck the law!

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It's always better to be judged by than carried by 6.

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Exactly.

Which is better:

A) The innocent homeowner and family are buried, while the scumbag intruder goes to jail for a few years and is released.

or

B) The scumbag intruder is buried, while the innocent homeowner and the family is alive and well, and maybe the homeowner goes to prison for a few years, but at least he is alive and so is his family.
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You can also just live in a non-pussy state that allows a homeowner the right of self defense.
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I have best defense in the world. I have God and i trust Him 100% and i dont need any weapons. Because i know that His angels are guarding me 24/7. Everything else is for fear controlled people.
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It's ok to pray for rain, but you still have to plant the seed.
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hesright
Didn’t jesus say to sell your stuff and buy a sword?
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If you don't have the Holy Ghost the Bible just turns into an endless debate and list of do and do nots. He who hath the Son hath life. Doctrine is important, absolutely. But life is not about reading comprehension. All the OT saints followed the light they had. Elijah shut the sky up with prayer, and he never had a Bible. Joshua prayed that moon stand still, and he never had a Bible. David killed Goliath with a sling and stone, and he never had a Bible. We follow the Great Shepherd, His flock knows His voice. The Great Shepherd is that pillar of fire in the wilderness, He is that rock cleft for me.
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The semi-autos are anticlimactic. Racking rounds in a pump has more involuntary bowel clearing effect on those at the business end. They die painfully dirty.
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I like to buy bird shot shells and then I take all the shot out of them . And then I put weird stuff in them . Ive made dry roasted peanut shells , frozen vienna sausage shells , exactly blade shells , paperclip shells , confetti shells .

I even penetrate 1/4 plywood with ciggarette butt shells lol

Its fun stuffing weird crap in bird shot shells .
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If you want a truly dangerous round, slice the top ring off of the top of the plastic. Pour out the shot and melt some wax and put the shot in the wax. Pour that wax back into to the shell, and you know have a round of birdshot that stays in one very small shot pattern until it makes contact and then they separate. You could also try flechettes ahhh.

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I currently have a 9mm and .38 Special, but this has peaked my interest. Five dead in seven seconds.
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A Pump shotgun is a better choice for home defense.

The cops always use to break up bar fights in my town by going to the bar's door and racking a round into the chamber.
Nothing stops a bar fight quicker, than the sound of racking a pump shotgun.
Everybody knows that sound and it makes them stop and think.

I think the same thing will apply to most common thieves and intruders.
If they run away and you do not have to shoot them, so you save yourself a lot of legal grief.
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This is my shotgun but mine isn't CA legal-
With a regular pump shotgun, I would alternate rounds between slug and shot. With the KSG you have two tubes, and a switch to select which magazine is used. If you get the smaller police sized rounds you can pack 26 of them into the magazines.
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for sure kel tec ksg 25 with 1 3/4 shells this puppy will hold 40 rounds
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I like to buy bird shot shells and then I take all the shot out of them . And then I put weird stuff in them . Ive made dry roasted peanut shells , frozen vienna sausage shells , exactly blade shells , paperclip shells , confetti shells .

I even penetrate 1/4 plywood with ciggarette butt shells lol

Its fun stuffing weird crap in bird shot shells .
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Why dont ya fill a few with freh shit?

Only problem is...all the poofs will turn up at ya house to home invade hoping to get shot by it.
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I like to buy bird shot shells and then I take all the shot out of them . And then I put weird stuff in them . Ive made dry roasted peanut shells , frozen vienna sausage shells , exactly blade shells , paperclip shells , confetti shells .

I even penetrate 1/4 plywood with ciggarette butt shells lol

Its fun stuffing weird crap in bird shot shells .
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Why dont ya fill a few with freh shit?

Only problem is...all the poofs will turn up at ya house to home invade hoping to get shot by it.
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Get a couple of rolls of dimes next time you are at the bank.
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This is my shotgun but mine isn't CA legal-
With a regular pump shotgun, I would alternate rounds between slug and shot. With the KSG you have two tubes, and a switch to select which magazine is used. If you get the smaller police sized rounds you can pack 26 of them into the magazines.


People are talking about a gun in this video. I didn't see a gun. Am I missing something?
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The problem with any semi auto shotgun is that the air return tube must be in tune and well tested with whatever type of shell you will be using, in other words, semi auto shotguns aren’t generally reliable across wide variety of shells.
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I have a 70 year old Browning that would take exception to your comment.

Maybe today's production has that issue, the Browning is happy to cycle whatever it's asked to.
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