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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1716142 United States 09/17/2019 02:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A Pump shotgun is a better choice for home defense. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77949514 The cops always use to break up bar fights in my town by going to the bar's door and racking a round into the chamber. Nothing stops a bar fight quicker, than the sound of racking a pump shotgun. Everybody knows that sound and it makes them stop and think. Please never rely on this anecdote. I DO favor a pump shotgun for home defense. But the drugged-out tweakers looking to steal for a score or the crew of home invaders will not be deterred by the sound of racking it. If you get to a point of needing to pump it, be prepared to fire it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75059130 Canada 09/17/2019 02:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I currently have a 9mm and .38 Special, but this has peaked my interest. Five dead in seven seconds. Quoting: Busterhymen [link to www.thesun.co.uk (secure)] too much kick for ladies. could knock em on their butts. they prefer the rifles. Training. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76857890 United States 09/17/2019 02:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I like to buy bird shot shells and then I take all the shot out of them . And then I put weird stuff in them . Ive made dry roasted peanut shells , frozen vienna sausage shells , exactly blade shells , paperclip shells , confetti shells . Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76857890 I even penetrate 1/4 plywood with ciggarette butt shells lol Its fun stuffing weird crap in bird shot shells . If you want a truly dangerous round, slice the top ring off of the top of the plastic. Pour out the shot and melt some wax and put the shot in the wax. Pour that wax back into to the shell, and you know have a round of birdshot that stays in one very small shot pattern until it makes contact and then they separate. You could also try flechettes . This isn't you is it? - I currently have a 9mm and .38 Special, but this has peaked my interest. Five dead in seven seconds. Quoting: Busterhymen [link to www.thesun.co.uk (secure)] A Pump shotgun is a better choice for home defense. The cops always use to break up bar fights in my town by going to the bar's door and racking a round into the chamber. Nothing stops a bar fight quicker, than the sound of racking a pump shotgun. Everybody knows that sound and it makes them stop and think. I think the same thing will apply to most common thieves and intruders. If they run away and you do not have to shoot them, so you save yourself a lot of legal grief. This is my shotgun but mine isn't CA legal- With a regular pump shotgun, I would alternate rounds between slug and shot. With the KSG you have two tubes, and a switch to select which magazine is used. If you get the smaller police sized rounds you can pack 26 of them into the magazines. Nahhhh , if I want a good 12ga self defense round I traditionally go with #4 buckshot . Not much smaller than 00 and you get more pellets. the homemade bird shot shells are just stupid crap . I just think its neat you can stuff wtf you want into those shells . If I really need bird shot to be a defensive round say im out of the good stuff I make old school cut shells where you cut just below the follower on the shot side all the way around and it makes a poor mans slug and the bird shot is contained in the far end without penetrating the shell breach . it works Those poor mans slug bird shot cut shells turn into a make shift slug and are pretty devastating . |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77988575 Finland 09/17/2019 02:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I currently have a 9mm and .38 Special, but this has peaked my interest. Five dead in seven seconds. Quoting: Busterhymen [link to www.thesun.co.uk (secure)] In Canada you will go to jail if you shoot an intruder at your own home. Guaranteed. You may get out of jail after a trial, but the media will have doxxed you and your family. Same here. You'll get sentenced and end up with a criminal record which employers may view before hiring you. If you injure someone who's breaking in, you will pay the hospital bill and extra for pain and suffering you have caused. The proper way to deal with an intruder is: Run and/or hide Call the cops Hide away If you choose to defend yourself, you must accept that you will be jailed and sentenced for it, and you will pay through the nose. |
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Senior Forum Moderator 09/17/2019 02:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ban all shotguns. They are weapons of war. In fact revolvers were used in war so ban them too. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7326963 don't forget boots and backpacks "If there is a new fascism, it won't come from skinheads and punks; it will come from people who eat granola and think they know how the world should be." - Brian Eno |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 9838266 United States 09/17/2019 02:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I lean towards a 30 round semi-auto rifle. When I first turned 18 and was living on my own, my HD weapon was a 7+1 20" Mossberg 500 pump shotgun. I used that for about 4 years. Then I went to an AK for about 10 years. Now I've switched over to an AR. Shotguns are great though. It's the thought of having 30 rounds and being able to have 30 more quickly that makes the rifle best. |
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User ID: 77553885 United States 09/17/2019 02:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ban all shotguns. They are weapons of war. In fact revolvers were used in war so ban them too. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7326963 Tbqh if school shooters took shotguns with them, and practiced reloading beforehand, they could do just as much, if not way more carnage than with an AR. Hell you can even adapt or buy 870’s and 500/590’s with detachable mags. Last Edited by Dirk_Diggler on 09/17/2019 02:47 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76857890 United States 09/17/2019 02:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I lean towards a 30 round semi-auto rifle. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9838266 When I first turned 18 and was living on my own, my HD weapon was a 7+1 20" Mossberg 500 pump shotgun. I used that for about 4 years. Then I went to an AK for about 10 years. Now I've switched over to an AR. Shotguns are great though. It's the thought of having 30 rounds and being able to have 30 more quickly that makes the rifle best. Jerry Mickulek busted that myth . He fired a 30 round magazine from an AR and 3 10rd mags same rifle and by god I dunno how he did it but he got the 30 off from the 3 10rd mags 1/2 a second faster than the single 30 . I think it had to do with trigger pull fatigue on the single 30 and his finger got two rest 2 times with the 3 10 rounders. I dunno . however he did it he did it . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77457813 United States 09/17/2019 02:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 12 Ga. for most women is too much to handle. I have a Mossy 930SPX. It will definitely do a lot of damage. No, it's too heavy to hunt with, but makes quite a statement to an intruder. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
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User ID: 75491368 United States 09/17/2019 03:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have best defense in the world. I have God and i trust Him 100% and i dont need any weapons. Because i know that His angels are guarding me 24/7. Everything else is for fear controlled people. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77283375 God helps those who help themselves. If someone ever breaks into your house or mugs you.....good luck stopping them with a prayer. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76857890 United States 09/17/2019 03:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 12 Ga. for most women is too much to handle. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77457813 I have a Mossy 930SPX. It will definitely do a lot of damage. No, it's too heavy to hunt with, but makes quite a statement to an intruder. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] I'd rather have a Mossy 590A1 pump gun . The 930SPX is a wicked shotgun and is fairly reliable . But am I going to bet my life on it going bang ? I just think the 590A1 is a " I bet my life on it " shotgun . I have a rock Island m5 12ga currently and I dont know if Id bet my life to that either. Its been pretty reliable but after you put some rds through it the shell stop screw in the receiver backs out a bit and can cause failure to feed . I bet it would be pretty reliable with some locktite red on that screw . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77283375 United States 09/17/2019 03:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have best defense in the world. I have God and i trust Him 100% and i dont need any weapons. Because i know that His angels are guarding me 24/7. Everything else is for fear controlled people. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77283375 God helps those who help themselves. If someone ever breaks into your house or mugs you.....good luck stopping them with a prayer. God protects me from that 2. I lived in 3 different countries and never had any problems. God protects those who are following His will. And who is not with the world. |
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User ID: 77021014 United States 09/17/2019 03:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 12 Ga. for most women is too much to handle. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77457813 I have a Mossy 930SPX. It will definitely do a lot of damage. No, it's too heavy to hunt with, but makes quite a statement to an intruder. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Buy low-recoil 12g shells Communism is for LOSERS Communism is SLAVERY Fuck Joe Biden |
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User ID: 73274634 Canada 09/17/2019 03:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Start of reference (from OP's link) Several other jihadis then emerged, but immediately surrendered after seeing two of the bodies “didn’t have heads”, reports claim. End of reference. Let the facts fall wherever, whenever, and however they may. INTP - The Logician. 'Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is not to stop questioning.' - Albert Einstein. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77971290 United States 09/17/2019 03:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I currently have a 9mm and .38 Special, but this has peaked my interest. Five dead in seven seconds. Quoting: Busterhymen [link to www.thesun.co.uk (secure)] A Pump shotgun is a better choice for home defense. The cops always use to break up bar fights in my town by going to the bar's door and racking a round into the chamber. Nothing stops a bar fight quicker, than the sound of racking a pump shotgun. Everybody knows that sound and it makes them stop and think. I think the same thing will apply to most common thieves and intruders. If they run away and you do not have to shoot them, so you save yourself a lot of legal grief. A friend of mine was a good ol' boy from Alabama growing up on a farm. One night his parents left him at home. Skip was 12 y. o. at the time. Skip heard someone trying to open the back door super quietly. Skip went to the closet where the shotgun was kept. He did what you said with the unmistakable sound that a shotgun makes. The would-be intruder heard the sound and took off running with no time lost! Skip fired a shot into the big field anyway. haha No one reported getting hit if they did. |
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User ID: 78001158 Canada 09/17/2019 03:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I currently have a 9mm and .38 Special, but this has peaked my interest. Five dead in seven seconds. Quoting: Busterhymen [link to www.thesun.co.uk (secure)] Benelli M4 Super 90 semi-automatic shotgun |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75993659 Canada 09/17/2019 03:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE! If you shoot an intruder in Canada you will not go to jail if the intruder was armed with a weapon (anything from a knife to a firearm) and if the intruder was threatening the life and safety of the occupant(s). What will happen is police will take a statement and collect evidence. The statement and evidence will be presented to a judge. The judge will determine whether the incident was self-defense or not. If it was obvious self defense, and if the police do not contest (or provide evidence) to prove it was not self defense, the judge will dismiss the case. If evidence points to anything besides self defense, then the judge will push the case to trial. And the person can face anything from manslaughter to homicide, depending on what transpired. But to say Canadians will automatically go to jail for shooting an intruder dead is completely false. Legal precedent has been set in many provinces where police officers have shot civilians who were simply wielding a knife in their vicinity, and they were not convicted of manslaughter or homicide. So legal precedent exists in Canada where if you feel your life is legitimately in danger and the only way you'll neutralize that danger is by shooting at the threat, then you have legal recourse to do so. |
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User ID: 78001158 Canada 09/17/2019 03:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I currently have a 9mm and .38 Special, but this has peaked my interest. Five dead in seven seconds. Quoting: Busterhymen [link to www.thesun.co.uk (secure)] In Canada you will go to jail if you shoot an intruder at your own home. Guaranteed. You may get out of jail after a trial, but the media will have doxxed you and your family. Come in my god damn house and your done fuck the law! |
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User ID: 78011943 United States 09/17/2019 03:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ban all shotguns. They are weapons of war. In fact revolvers were used in war so ban them too. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7326963 You joke, but the Prussian/German forces actually petitioned to have shotguns banned in WW1, as an inhumane weapon. Make America Strong Again Make America Sexy Again I'm fukken this monkey, you just shut up and hold the tail." |
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User ID: 78001158 Canada 09/17/2019 04:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ban all shotguns. They are weapons of war. In fact revolvers were used in war so ban them too. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7326963 You joke, but the Prussian/German forces actually petitioned to have shotguns banned in WW1, as an inhumane weapon. lol well they really make a mess of the body! |
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User ID: 75814320 United States 09/17/2019 04:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I currently have a 9mm and .38 Special, but this has peaked my interest. Five dead in seven seconds. Quoting: Busterhymen [link to www.thesun.co.uk (secure)] In Canada you will go to jail if you shoot an intruder at your own home. Guaranteed. You may get out of jail after a trial, but the media will have doxxed you and your family. Come in my god damn house and your done fuck the law! It's always better to be judged by than carried by 6. Come on and take a free ride. |