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‘Trump is ruining our markets’: Struggling farmers are losing a huge customer to the trade war — China

 
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i know farmers in ND and yes the ones in trouble planted all sowbeens. why? use to see lots of sunflowers and driving in ND i did not see one sunflower field. bean or corn and some musterd. if there smart farmers they would have planted in many crops.
also know farmers getting 3 million for not planting and if you r a sugar beat grower you get millions from the government! stop paying to not plant and stop paying to keep sugar prices high! then there would be lots of money to help small farmers.
most get payed if there field flood out! the farmers get so much money that if you r so dumb to plant just one crop you need to stop farming. my wife knows this farmer that is being quoted in the papers. they need to plant smarter if one low year brakes them and yes they did not plant smart, one crop for many years.
farmers that plant dumb are the one that get in the paper.
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OPs article is FALSE. There are thousands of farm acres around me and none of the farmers are having any problems selling their crops. Even the organic alfalfa farmers who used to sell to China have their bales sold. The demand is still high for all crops.
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This. There is no shortage for need of any crops wether china is buying or not. Too many uses. Dont be ridiculous.
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i know farmers in ND and yes the ones in trouble planted all sowbeens. why? use to see lots of sunflowers and driving in ND i did not see one sunflower field. bean or corn and some musterd. if there smart farmers they would have planted in many crops.
also know farmers getting 3 million for not planting and if you r a sugar beat grower you get millions from the government! stop paying to not plant and stop paying to keep sugar prices high! then there would be lots of money to help small farmers.
most get payed if there field flood out! the farmers get so much money that if you r so dumb to plant just one crop you need to stop farming. my wife knows this farmer that is being quoted in the papers. they need to plant smarter if one low year brakes them and yes they did not plant smart, one crop for many years.
farmers that plant dumb are the one that get in the paper.
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Thats whats mainly around here.

Rice, soybeans alternate. Then cotton a little further south

Matter of fact there is a soy bean feild literally next to my house

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Somehow I believe he is keeping our food production at HOmE

Grand Solar Minimum predicted to lead to food crisis

Farmers need to learn how to grow for domestic markets again

Wait until this years harvest numbers are in before you judge him harshly

When China is allowed to buy - they pre-order for delivery - and their ARMY WORMS have devasteted high swathes of crop land ... They will pre-pay for enormous amounts of AG products - and our own short harvest will leave us with too little to feed our own people

Learn to garden and PROVIDE

It will be a great blessing for you and your family and neighbors

I sell my excess on a little wagon stand out front - don't make much money - but I am providing all we are able to process and have excess to share - at below market prices
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I saw some Chinese talkin though, and it's got their people terribly worried that they're going to starve, because China can't make enough food to feed itself.

They really like their pecans and blueberries too. Pecans may be cheap this year and I plan on buying a bunch.

Our stupid media could talk about it more and the American public could buy more if they would. Just tell me what we've got extra and hell I'll buy it and put in the freezer.

The Chinese won't last long.
They will get hungry.

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Good well tell the farmers to get back to reality and quit living the life of the rich and famous, which a lot of them do.

Don't even get me started, farmers are like Kings around us and always have been. Their kids are spoiled like rotten cheese, and they want for nothing......period.
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Yup
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Trump is certainly fucking America up
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Yeah, its so terrible i dont think we are gonna make it

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Good well tell the farmers to get back to reality and quit living the life of the rich and famous, which a lot of them do.

Don't even get me started, farmers are like Kings around us and always have been. Their kids are spoiled like rotten cheese, and they want for nothing......period.
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Yup
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Yup yup
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Hey, don't worry. Trump is coming to the rescue with taxpayer funded socialist bailout subsidies!

Thread: Trump administration will begin paying $14.5B bailout to farmers hurt by his US-China trade war by late August.
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In the bigger picture, aspects of sleazy leftism are necessary when so much of the world economy is already balanced on the shoulders of lots of Limousine Liberals and Champagne Socialists. People in the boardrooms of Silicon Valley, Wall Street and Nike-Gillette-type corporations. With Hillary-loving pay-to-play types doing their fair share in government.

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And that food is going to magically come to China from where...
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Tariffs are bad. All countries should eliminate tariffs.
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We used to have no income tax and the gvt was supported by tariffs.
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Farmers will plant less. Farmers are very resilient and efficient.

The good ones will make do and be better off in no time at all.
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I saw some Chinese talkin though, and it's got their people terribly worried that they're going to starve, because China can't make enough food to feed itself.

They really like their pecans and blueberries too. Pecans may be cheap this year and I plan on buying a bunch.

Our stupid media could talk about it more and the American public could buy more if they would. Just tell me what we've got extra and hell I'll buy it and put in the freezer.

The Chinese won't last long.
They will get hungry.
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Im from a farming community.

Fields are full and ive never seen a "hurting farmer", at least around here.

Hurting i guess would be them not being able to build their new million dollar homes on their farms and not able to buy a new fleet of $100,000 white chevy trucks this year
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hesright

My BIL only has 3 of those green $500,000 monster tractors that drive themselves and 3 matching combines. He farms about 2000 acres. He also has 2 airstreams, 2 fifth wheel rv’s, an airplane, should I keep going?

The farmers will be just fine not selling to China. Btw, Trump announced additional subsidies to offset the loss. So, they have that too.
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They were getting ripped off for years.

Why not protest China ripping us off by completely boycotting their business?

Unless you like getting ripped off?
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A lot of these farmers arent good people, they are bigtime govt welfare recipients, employ illegals as virtual slave ranchhands, and spray our food with poisons, im for a trade war with evil china, they can go to hell with the chinese imo, oh boohoo, you lost 3$ on your gmo soybeans , you should be out of business ans your land given to more ethical farmers. No pity.
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So I guess that means our grocery prices will fall, right? They've jumped up just recently. I'll be glad when they fall again.
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lol..won't happen..and FUCK CHINA. they are NOT our friend.
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^^^This.
It's a nothing burger.
The USA is still the only Country with a real surplus.
China(Boycotting USA) goes to other countries and buys their crops, those Countries in turn will come to the USA to buy our surplus.
It's just a switch in "Who Buys form Who".
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So I guess that means our grocery prices will fall, right? They've jumped up just recently. I'll be glad when they fall again.
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lol..won't happen..and FUCK CHINA. they are NOT our friend.
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^^^This.
It's a nothing burger.
The USA is still the only Country with a real surplus.
China(Boycotting USA) goes to other countries and buys their crops, those Countries in turn will come to the USA to buy our surplus.
It's just a switch in "Who Buys form Who".

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Nothing but we get to pay for it socialist style.

Yeah how much is nothing costing?
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I bet China has weather manipulation technology and they didn't just decide to cancel purchases of u.s. agricultute but to cancel u.s. agriculture in general.
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Tariffs are bad. All countries should eliminate tariffs.
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and you don't understand how international trade works
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A lot of these farmers arent good people, they are bigtime govt welfare recipients, employ illegals as virtual slave ranchhands, and spray our food with poisons, im for a trade war with evil china, they can go to hell with the chinese imo, oh boohoo, you lost 3$ on your gmo soybeans , you should be out of business ans your land given to more ethical farmers. No pity.
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I agree but Trumpstien is bailing them out for re election votes on taxpayers dime.
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So I guess that means our grocery prices will fall, right? They've jumped up just recently. I'll be glad when they fall again.
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lol..won't happen..and FUCK CHINA. they are NOT our friend.
 Quoting: diverdan01


^^^This.
It's a nothing burger.
The USA is still the only Country with a real surplus.
China(Boycotting USA) goes to other countries and buys their crops, those Countries in turn will come to the USA to buy our surplus.
It's just a switch in "Who Buys form Who".

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Both of these posters are correct!!!

Anyone saying otherwise does not understand how the world actually works, especially international trade. As in if you don't understand what a trade deficit is then you should probably go read about it...before you open your ignorant ass pie hole again.
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Our farmers? Who monsanto, fuck em the family farms they ran out of business didn't need China, so maybe we should return to that model of farming.
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I saw some Chinese talkin though, and it's got their people terribly worried that they're going to starve, because China can't make enough food to feed itself.

They really like their pecans and blueberries too. Pecans may be cheap this year and I plan on buying a bunch.

Our stupid media could talk about it more and the American public could buy more if they would. Just tell me what we've got extra and hell I'll buy it and put in the freezer.

The Chinese won't last long.
They will get hungry.
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Can't they grow crops in China? They have the manpower but I'm sure about the lay of the land.
I lost my apathy.
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U.S. farmers lost one of their biggest customers after China officially cancelled all purchases of U.S. agricultural products, a retaliatory move following President Donald Trump’s pledge to slap 10% tariffs on $300 billion of Chinese imports.

China’s exit piles on to a devastating year for farmers, who have struggled through record flooding and an extreme heat wave that destroyed crop yields, and trade war escalations that have lowered prices and profits this year.

“It’s really, really getting bad out here,” said Bob Kuylen, who’s farmed for 35 years in North Dakota.

“Trump is ruining our markets. No one is buying our product no more, and we have no markets no more.”

Agriculture exports to China dropped by more than half last year. In 2017, China imported $19.5 billion in agricultural goods, making it the second-largest buyer overall for American farmers. In 2018, that dropped to $9.2 billion as the trade war escalated, according to the United States Department of Agriculture.

China’s exit will most impact U.S. grain farmers. China is the world’s top buyer of American soybeans, buying about 60% of U.S. soybean exports last year. Analysts estimate that soybean prices have dropped 9% since the beginning of the trade war. Soybean exports to China have dropped by 75% from September 2018 to May 2019, compared to the same nine-month period in 2017 and 2018, according to data from the USDA.

“It’s killing us,” said Mark Watne, a wheat and soybean farmer who is president of the North Dakota Farmers Union. Watne said he lost $3 per bushel of soybeans he planted this year.

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NPC gets hysterical over what Globalist Cult MSM says.
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U.S. farmers lost one of their biggest customers after China officially cancelled all purchases of U.S. agricultural products, a retaliatory move following President Donald Trump’s pledge to slap 10% tariffs on $300 billion of Chinese imports.

China’s exit piles on to a devastating year for farmers, who have struggled through record flooding and an extreme heat wave that destroyed crop yields, and trade war escalations that have lowered prices and profits this year.

“It’s really, really getting bad out here,” said Bob Kuylen, who’s farmed for 35 years in North Dakota.

“Trump is ruining our markets. No one is buying our product no more, and we have no markets no more.”

Agriculture exports to China dropped by more than half last year. In 2017, China imported $19.5 billion in agricultural goods, making it the second-largest buyer overall for American farmers. In 2018, that dropped to $9.2 billion as the trade war escalated, according to the United States Department of Agriculture.

China’s exit will most impact U.S. grain farmers. China is the world’s top buyer of American soybeans, buying about 60% of U.S. soybean exports last year. Analysts estimate that soybean prices have dropped 9% since the beginning of the trade war. Soybean exports to China have dropped by 75% from September 2018 to May 2019, compared to the same nine-month period in 2017 and 2018, according to data from the USDA.

“It’s killing us,” said Mark Watne, a wheat and soybean farmer who is president of the North Dakota Farmers Union. Watne said he lost $3 per bushel of soybeans he planted this year.

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Left of Mao Hate Trump communist (cnbc) writes the smear.

Right of David Duke Hate Trump Stormfags recycle left wing commie propaganda as right wing propaganda.

Complete political coordination between Hate Trump political anarchists.

Who would figure? I know this is wild, but lately I've been thinking maybe all these people claiming to be disgruntled former Trump supporters really are ROLCON.

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OPs article is FALSE. There are thousands of farm acres around me and none of the farmers are having any problems selling their crops. Even the organic alfalfa farmers who used to sell to China have their bales sold. The demand is still high for all crops.
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This. There is no shortage for need of any crops wether china is buying or not. Too many uses. Dont be ridiculous.
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than why are we giving them billions more in aid on top of the subsidies?
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"Farmers" or heinous corporate bitc* monsters that dont give a crap about anything but cash raking?

Because the corporate gmo fields here have not been planted at all this year and have been fine?
These fkrs are swindlers above everything.

I'm a farmer. I sell to Americans. Seems fine to me? Wish i could put a few more acres in.
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Our farmers? Who monsanto, fuck em the family farms they ran out of business didn't need China, so maybe we should return to that model of farming.
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Exactly.

Hell end all of the DC bloat get rid of the fed along with the IRS then people will have the time to educate their own kids and garden clean food at home.
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I don't understand this. So China buys their grain from another provider who used to sell to somebody else. The buyers who used to get their grain from that somebody else now can't. But guess who now has some grain to sell them.





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