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Something about Epstein's death that I think we are overlooking and which might be the most troubling aspect of all.

 
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They have all of his tapes.
Anything after that is irrelevant.
Including his now impossible testimony.
They're all going down.
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Since Epstein won't be going to trial wouldn't that mean that all the evidence against him is thrown out or ruled inconclusive?
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Do we even care about the evidence against him?

I thought the major interest was in the men who used his services, and for that, all you need are the girls involved, like the one who says she slept with the prince, etc.

Take Clinton, for example. If he was with girls on the island, who's a better witness to what occurred - Epstein, or the girl he was with?

The only thing lost with the loss of Epstein is what he could've confessed and who he could've named. But the girls can also name the men,
and it's not like Epstein would have been in the room with them as a witness.
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Unfortunately, I don't think that's going to get much traction. Sorry to say.
 Quoting: lumen naturae


Why not? Isn't it logical?

All he could've done was drop names, but that wouldn't even be solid evidence.

What's more incriminating, Epstein saying "I hooked Bill up with Sally" or Sally saying, "I slept with Bill at Epstein's house"?
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This could happen any day.

What will we do then?
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post another 100-page thread about it.


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This makes Watergate and muhRussia look like nothing.
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WOW! At first, like most people, I was VERY upset about this news. I thought how could they let this happen? Why didn't Trump/Barr have this all-important person protected? We have no justice! Epstein can't speak while he's dead!

BUT..

Then I realized this INCREDIBLE change of events.. This 'suicide' (which we all know it was not) MORE than counters the shootings narrative from last week. This is a MAJOR NARRATIVE SHIFT. If you don't believe me, watch a little CNN, MSNBC, go to Reddit r/politics, AOC demanding an investigation, all LEFTIES ARE INCENSED BY THIS. It's absolutely amazing.

EVERYONE IS DEMANDING INVESTIGATIONS!!


That is EXACTLY what all of us want.

ALL EYES ARE NOW ON THIS!


And even better, there is SO much added skepticism. NO ONE BELIEVES ITS A SUICIDE! Not even the hardcore democrats! Do you realize how big this is?? I have seen so many posts today on Twitter just like this one.. This is from Dr. Eugene Gu, A hardcore Trump-hating leftest..

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I never subscribe to conspiracy theories but this is just ridiculous.
Jeffrey Epstein was on suicide watch but somehow manages to still kill himself? He was probably murdered or somebody encouraged him to do it to protect a bunch of rich and powerful pedophiles. #EpsteinSuicide

This single event is bringing together Trump supporters and hardcore leftists!

Another point.. Dems are saying it was Trump who had Epstein killed so he didn't spill the beans on all the Epstein/Trump connections. ENCOURAGE THE DEMS TO DEMAND THEY HELP LOOK INTO TRUMP/EPSTEIN. This will only help all of us out, and will FORCE the MSM to look into the details surrounding this 'suicide', and also bring so many more skeptical eyes on finding out the truth about Epstein, his island, who visited the island, etc.

THE DEMS ARE OUT FOR BLOOD!! LET THEM SEARCH FOR THE TRUTH!!

What a day.

This guy sums it up nicely as well..

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4) Look at how much this benefits us.

Firstly, “We have it all”. The man is already indicted. The intel all gathered. The island seized. The victims interviewed. The tunnels cleansed. This doesn’t stop those involved from being prosecuted.

The investigation already happened.

5) Secondly, this is bringing colossal amounts of eyes back to the Epstein situation after the Mockingbird media has been pushing “Muh racist” and “Muh gun control” for weeks. This is a refocus/narrative shift.

Now even the sheep have to admit something shady is happening.

6) Now we are getting full blown speculation in the minds of the sheep.

“Oh shit is the deep state real?”
“Damn someone really wanted him dead.”
“Doesn’t he have extremely close connections to the Clintons?”

People will have to have this internal conversation with themselves.
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What troubles me most is what they are going to do as a distraction to this
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there is no doubt the elites are doing a clean-up here.. at least the story got out and the rest of us are hopefully a bit wiser going forward. I think the elites were most worried about a long drawn out expose revealing a lot of info and the public being too informed of their activities.. rather than any of the higher up weasels getting caught.

Epstein was an agent of theirs, an employee setup to act in the ways that he did.. he was not a lone wolf, self made man or acting alone building his own empire... the narrative the media is putting out there.

He could have brought down a massive pyramid above him if this was allowed to drag on into the years ahead.
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Since Epstein won't be going to trial wouldn't that mean that all the evidence against him is thrown out or ruled inconclusive? I don't know a lot about law, maybe someone with more knowledge can chime in and let us know what to expect? If there were any justice at all couldn't this become a Posthumous trial? I really don't see TPTB allowing this case to go any further and since he's dead I only see one thing happening now...

Denial. Denial. Denial.

No proof to claims.

No substantial evidence.

All the research that countless individuals have dug up and compiled will be laughed off and scoffed at by the media and anyone in a position of power as 'conspiracy'.

And with 'conspiracy theorists' branded the new domestic terrorists as well as those who follow QANON and pizzagate, well, it puts a bad taste in my mouth that those who push for more Epstein related research to come out can and will likely be silenced, perhaps even by force and imprisonment.

I've seen people calling to arms today, that Epstein was the 'shot heard around the world' and more calls to violent uprisings which I believe are the stirrings of more false flag planned attacks. Have some unhinged 'conspiracy theorist' go shoot up a bunch of people because they believe they are tied to some 'child sex trafficking ring' 'pizzagate' conspiracy and just so happen to mention QANON in their 'manifesto' and it's all over.

We are right there.

This could happen any day.

What will we do then?
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Unless Epstein’s lawyers video taped him naming names.....
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Will all the evidence be lost??
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If not lost, I'm sure it will be memory holed by some kind of false flag here in the next 48 hours.
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There's a thread on the Forum right now that is claiming that something ELSE will happen either today or tomorrow which will knock Epstein off the front pages.
"I have come to the conclusion that all news should be treated like 9/11, assume it is a psyop with actors participating in a staged event complete with props, until proven otherwise, in which case assume whatever is being recorded, reported, televised, is distortions/lying by omission/outright lies, until proven otherwise." - Anonymous, 4-13-12
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Epstein was not offed because of what he did. He was offed because of what he knew.

You do not have a trial for a dead man. The evidence collected will be stored in a box and lost. Others involved may be indicted,but they will have high powered lawyers that will say Epstein threatened,coerced etc and all they gave to do is say " i do not recall" if forced to testify.

The case, the evidence, the evil is effectively covered up.
Within 24 hours the media will forget. And a few weeks later people will forget. Like 9/11.
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Hopefully this is a case in which a ever bigger lie must be told to cover a previous lie, until it's impossible to hide animore.
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..anymore..
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Since Epstein won't be going to trial wouldn't that mean that all the evidence against him is thrown out or ruled inconclusive?
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Do we even care about the evidence against him?

I thought the major interest was in the men who used his services, and for that, all you need are the girls involved, like the one who says she slept with the prince, etc.

Take Clinton, for example. If he was with girls on the island, who's a better witness to what occurred - Epstein, or the girl he was with?

The only thing lost with the loss of Epstein is what he could've confessed and who he could've named. But the girls can also name the men,
and it's not like Epstein would have been in the room with them as a witness.
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Unfortunately, I don't think that's going to get much traction. Sorry to say.
 Quoting: lumen naturae


I'd be concerned for all of the named girls. If Eppie can get suicided, so can they.
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FBI ... Cleanup on aisle three
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This is just a repeat of the dc madam...she too hung herself and had names to name...
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This is just a repeat of the dc madam...she too hung herself and had names to name...
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Good point. Find the link to the documents and download them now!

Does anyone know where they are?
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It is alarming enough when an invisible person succumbs under questionable circumstances, but what sort of insane world is it when high profile people are taken down?
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You're wrong.
Epstein was the only one with legal standing to contest the legality of the search warrant executed on his house in NY.
They found A LOT in that house.
And second, the team in SDNY that is investigating this is not the criminal or vice team, it is the corruption investigations team.
They have all that evidence and nobody to contest how they got it, making all that evidence permissible in other cases.
Just because that asshole has killed himself, or most probably was helped in killing himself, does not make any of that evidence go away.
I expect more people suddenly dying, eG Ms Maxwell, Epsteins main pimp and confidant, soon.
Just look at all the papers made public yesterday, naming a lot of names and actions.
BTW the one name that was in that published disposition who didn't diddle any of the girl was Trump, just for you Never-Trumpers and SJWs out there.
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^^THIS^^

I think they have it all. I'm also wondering if they gave him a choice of being in the general population (Big Bubba gets him) if/when convicted or suicide. He chickened out the first time (found in fetal position) and maybe had a little help this time.
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There's nothing to overlook. They came in. Killed him. Left.

What happened, happened for a reason.. now we wait for the rest.

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Trump HAS to seize the mainstream media at this point and there are statutes on the books that allow him to do that. Inside word is that this could actually become a reality in the short term.

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The older I get, the less I am sure of anything... but one thing I do know and am sure of is WHOEVER FIRES THE FIRST SHOT LOSES!

Then again we may be beyond that point by now.
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Now they have options.
One is to go ahead and arrest some assholes and have trials.
The other is to use all the evidence as sort of an Unfavorable Information File where they can go for blackmail bones to control these people at will.
I suspect they'll hold onto it to exercise control.
Some people involved will shoot themselves in the back of the head- loose ends and all that.
The big public prosecutions, not happening.
That's why they knocked Jeffy off.
It's more profitable and safer- they were all in it so they'll tamp it down the memory hole publicly at least.
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Who was boarding up his island temple while he was in solitary???

Theres more than just him. He is NOT the ring leader, he is the public face. Like michael jordan isnt the ring leader of Nike but was the face of Nike to the public for a bit.


So whoever paid to board to up his island is probably up in the heirarchy
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And the judge says:

No defendant. Case closed!
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It happens just like this:

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In a poll that asked was Epstein murderd yes or no, what would be the outcome?
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Who was boarding up his island temple while he was in solitary???

Theres more than just him. He is NOT the ring leader, he is the public face. Like michael jordan isnt the ring leader of Nike but was the face of Nike to the public for a bit.


So whoever paid to board to up his island is probably up in the heirarchy
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He had lawyers and employees with managers to handle stuff like that.
Surround yourself with people who get it.
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Who was boarding up his island temple while he was in solitary???

Theres more than just him. He is NOT the ring leader, he is the public face. Like michael jordan isnt the ring leader of Nike but was the face of Nike to the public for a bit.


So whoever paid to board to up his island is probably up in the heirarchy
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He had lawyers and employees with managers to handle stuff like that.
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Reminds me of hard drives washed in acid
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Since Epstein won't be going to trial wouldn't that mean that all the evidence against him is thrown out or ruled inconclusive? I don't know a lot about law, maybe someone with more knowledge can chime in and let us know what to expect? If there were any justice at all couldn't this become a Posthumous trial? I really don't see TPTB allowing this case to go any further and since he's dead I only see one thing happening now...

Denial. Denial. Denial.

No proof to claims.

No substantial evidence.

All the research that countless individuals have dug up and compiled will be laughed off and scoffed at by the media and anyone in a position of power as 'conspiracy'.

And with 'conspiracy theorists' branded the new domestic terrorists as well as those who follow QANON and pizzagate, well, it puts a bad taste in my mouth that those who push for more Epstein related research to come out can and will likely be silenced, perhaps even by force and imprisonment.

I've seen people calling to arms today, that Epstein was the 'shot heard around the world' and more calls to violent uprisings which I believe are the stirrings of more false flag planned attacks. Have some unhinged 'conspiracy theorist' go shoot up a bunch of people because they believe they are tied to some 'child sex trafficking ring' 'pizzagate' conspiracy and just so happen to mention QANON in their 'manifesto' and it's all over.

We are right there.

This could happen any day.

What will we do then?
 Quoting: lumen naturae



The victims will be reduced to tabloid trash.


"Bimbo eruptions".


They'll notice shadowy men following them around. Their pets getting killed. All to scare them into silence.
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You're wrong.
Epstein was the only one with legal standing to contest the legality of the search warrant executed on his house in NY.
They found A LOT in that house.
And second, the team in SDNY that is investigating this is not the criminal or vice team, it is the corruption investigations team.
They have all that evidence and nobody to contest how they got it, making all that evidence permissible in other cases.
Just because that asshole has killed himself, or most probably was helped in killing himself, does not make any of that evidence go away.
I expect more people suddenly dying, eG Ms Maxwell, Epsteins main pimp and confidant, soon.
Just look at all the papers made public yesterday, naming a lot of names and actions.
BTW the one name that was in that published disposition who didn't diddle any of the girl was Trump, just for you Never-Trumpers and SJWs out there.
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This. Epstein’s death is a tragedy. It will allow some people to go free because they will never be named. But the ones who show up in the evidence collected in his house are seriously fucked. Unless they Building 7 the evidence room.





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