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Here is what I know.

Caelus refers to "Heaven" or an "arch supporting the sky".
Aether and Dies (daylight, or day) are the parents in the mythos.

Caelus is known celestially as uranus. Venus was born from the castrated genitals of Saturn, according to wikipedia, and caelus was the castrater.

Some religions call Caelus Mithras, depicted as an eagle overlooking heaven and the zodiark. And some Jewish mythology speaks of the heavenly name of the father as Caelus.

Uranus and Ouranus are depicted with the dragon or snake. Thusly is Caelus in babylon culture depicted as Anu himself.

Associated with Saturn and accused of being evil, caelus is not much talked about on google at all, being somewhat obscure. That's why I made this topic.

What do you know of the uranus/ouranus/caelus mythos, glp?
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Where the green man dwelleth.


The axis mundi and the tau cross, broad as a spine upon which shoulders outstretch, a spine with the head of an ankh, and no feet. A willing serpent that slithers and falls face-first towards its tail...seeking eggs to devour, its jaws fasten upon itself. It becomes the egg, the head of the ankh upon which the Tau is outstretched, is hung

The Hanged Man, "to myself I sacrifice thee", he spoke into his own eye.

his chest is pierced by an inner prometheus, and his winning fire bleeds from the wound and drips into the dirt. Upside down by the rope, bloody dirt below becomes the sky, the salt of his tears feed the roof of golgotha - the kingdom of the skull.
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Is Kali the feminine Caelus?
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IF the annunaki are indeed the "sons of anu", than they descended from this caelus/ouranos/uranus figure.
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What do you know of the uranus/ouranus/caelus mythos, glp?
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you won't find any other mythological figure that more closely embodies pure chaos


some have issues accepting chaos when it comes to their own thoughts, they want to be in control, and to rid themselves of everything they believe to be unacceptable

the unperceived quandary being that belief is a matter of practice rather than a state of being

to be in control is to be unrelenting in the practice of exercising self-restraint, to acknowledge and accept that thoughts are as much a product of the unconscious and one's environment as they are of the continued development of the self



your relaying of information is completely backwards, though...

it was caelus who was castrated by saturn
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What do you know of the uranus/ouranus/caelus mythos, glp?
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you won't find any other mythological figure that more closely embodies pure chaos


some have issues accepting chaos when it comes to their own thoughts, they want to be in control, and to rid themselves of everything they believe to be unacceptable

the unperceived quandary being that belief is a matter of practice rather than a state of being

to be in control is to be unrelenting in the practice of exercising self-restraint, to acknowledge and accept that thoughts are as much a product of the unconscious and one's environment as they are of the continued development of the self



your relaying of information is completely backwards, though...

it was caelus who was castrated by saturn
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I may infact be dyslexic. ;)

That is fascinating though.

The original Ea/Enki/Oannas was in fact the "lord of the waves". Hence the fishly apparition. If the original annunaki or shining one was a fish, what sea was he swimming through?

The brain is the pattern maker, and all the falls outside the scope of understanding is relegated to the domain of chaos.

If Caelus/Uranus is the arch of heaven, it is indeed in a sense the aether that encompasses the space between thoughts and their narrative or order.
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...and a re-share, while on the subject of severed genitalia cast into neptune's domain, one bubbled up and rose as the morning star, but what of the other, would it look the same?


Amidst the cricket cacophony chattering spree
An alchemist met marriage daydream's shattering me
To ash among dunes slung under bridge where we lived free
When web spun thickest dung pheromone bone thrown then they flee
The rats in cage waging final bet for debt pending
A key to lock unseen beginning final ending

Plip-plop ripples o'er infinite sea stuttering say
Stop wasting simple momentary lapses of grey
Displayed in seasons' passing ticking toxic strands 'way
Good grief the fief when wounded dragon finds cross'd fae
Who seeks the king encircling new ring below his crown
Adorned so born thorn'd throne made mute to welcome gown

Shadow below to sow sea foam frothing darkness glow
Over clothed million suns great father undone to show
Gaia as witness rising woken barely blinking
Thinking I'm dreaming dare I tempt lucidity now
Hearing heartbeat bearing black Luna's unwound sinking
Believing beast of burdensome bondage caged in brow
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...and a re-share, while on the subject of severed genitalia cast into neptune's domain, one bubbled up and rose as the morning star, but what of the other, would it look the same?


Amidst the cricket cacophony chattering spree
An alchemist met marriage daydream's shattering me
To ash among dunes slung under bridge where we lived free
When web spun thickest dung pheromone bone thrown then they flee
The rats in cage waging final bet for debt pending
A key to lock unseen beginning final ending

Plip-plop ripples o'er infinite sea stuttering say
Stop wasting simple momentary lapses of grey
Displayed in seasons' passing ticking toxic strands 'way
Good grief the fief when wounded dragon finds cross'd fae
Who seeks the king encircling new ring below his crown
Adorned so born thorn'd throne made mute to welcome gown

Shadow below to sow sea foam frothing darkness glow
Over clothed million suns great father undone to show
Gaia as witness rising woken barely blinking
Thinking I'm dreaming dare I tempt lucidity now
Hearing heartbeat bearing black Luna's unwound sinking
Believing beast of burdensome bondage caged in brow
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You wrote this? hf
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What do you know of the uranus/ouranus/caelus mythos, glp?
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you won't find any other mythological figure that more closely embodies pure chaos


some have issues accepting chaos when it comes to their own thoughts, they want to be in control, and to rid themselves of everything they believe to be unacceptable

the unperceived quandary being that belief is a matter of practice rather than a state of being

to be in control is to be unrelenting in the practice of exercising self-restraint, to acknowledge and accept that thoughts are as much a product of the unconscious and one's environment as they are of the continued development of the self



your relaying of information is completely backwards, though...

it was caelus who was castrated by saturn
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Maybe to other people it is complicated. To me it seems obvious that existence demonstrates itself in every conceivable form, and the proof of that is evidenced everywhere there is consciousness, and for that matter, everywhere there is evidence. As nothing can experience itself negating experience, the negation of experience must lack the element of essentiality characterized by the conscious. A negated experience cannot be a personal one without compromising the authenticity of both the negation as such and the authority by which the experience IS NOT experienced.

Does it take authority to remain unpotentiated? Ie, to “not” be requires the security clearence from thinking people with personified absences. Without such absences, we lose the language of what is yet to come, the ability to project past death and define what is against standards that are NOT.

Nothingness never negates. Its affirmative effort is perpetully lacking. Yet in this space without a face there is never any doubt of its certainty. Where there is nothing, there is ALWAYs the potential ANYthing. And while that potentiL may never manifest, the absence never becomes less manifest, nor does the imagination become more distinct in shaping said nothingness. The imagination has a vested interest in this particular vacuous real estate, because it is in the endless illumination of nothingness where the most theoretical substance is both present and vaguely implied. It is specifically nothingness that begs the insertion of Something to place it on the ego’s hierarchy of priorities. A nonentity cannot be prioritized, but thinking about nothingness can be ruminated ad infinum. Ironically, the absence of something tends to create more sensationality than a plain fact.

It is said that ghosts are delusion that can be created by extended sensory deprivation. In other words, by extended exposure to nothingness. The more absolute and empty the deprivation, the more likely a hallucination will be created to populate it. The key is that some people practice sensory deprivation with foreknowledge that their brain will project thoughtforms onto emptiness, and so they anticipate and charge the void in that sensory space. Such is a shamanic impulse an initiate can learn spontaneously, merely by opening the relevant book and intending to one day read it.

Doubtless the contents of this essay will seem impossibly confusing to some, but to the rare few who can fluently understand the double negative dialect, I am alluding to a mystery implied not by what I say or do not say, rather the mystery is effervescent, being directly spoken of without being referred to at all. Illustrating and reconciling contradictions is the theme that predates this mystery, and in the manner of creating oxymorons, each impossible sentiment changes our notion of what is actual. An oxymoron serves to universally destabalize the assumption that anything intrinsically belongs somewhere. The oxymoron is so neatly incompatible that people go out of their way to appreciate the effort, to court confusion in counterparts. To belong apart so perfectly that putting you together creates a phenomena, is almost like suggesting that the oxymoronic entity possesses a subtle harmony which would further intensify its oxymoronic peculiarity.

The mystery contains an aura which interests us to pry at insanity’s jaw without consternation. When we are able to safely become insensible, the illusion of our narrative can be discarded, and we can be immediatly real before the attempt to justify ourselves destroys the authenticity of our experience. The contradiction persuades the contradicted subject not only to doubt something, but to ultimately redefine its relationship to what is not only real but possible. In one fell swoop invoking a contradiction bypasses all egoistic defense mechanisms because contradictions call upon thought processes which to the modern mind are relics, or even fossils, of history, and not history as written or spoken of, but one that is passed on only through reference to greater enigmas which words fail to preserve. But this is such a complete failure of words that in the effort to reference or explain said failure creates a cascade of categorical defamation in which nothing is real except for the singular answer to the only relevant question existence has ever asked and answered in one self-contained statement.

The real thing to remember in the convoluted sentiment expressed above, is that not only was the point of the argument evaded, but the supposed attempts to explain the true purpose merely added a new dimension of confusion between subject and object, Whereupon existence is personified as the secret yet untold, but is also pictured as the relentless inquisitor whose questions revealed we were hiding something from our audiance, ostensibly also ourselves hiding from the secret we are actively keeping hidden. All of this happens under the assumption that one of the selves pictured here has preserved the original act of sacredness. the sacredness is actually being deconstructed systematically, as existence toys with the notion of self consciousness in a broader rhetorical scheme of hide and seek. The trick to this is managing to hide from the seeker long enough to forget playing both roles without the seeker ever suspecting that the hiding place is actually in being the seeker.

This ensures that you are never found, for who better to hide you than the person who knows where not to look?
The only hope is hidden with the seeker.
But the hidden one is revealed in all...
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You wrote this? hf
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that question always prompts a decidedly mixed bag of thoughts :P

regardless of them, the answer to your question is yes
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your anus
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You wrote this? hf
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that question always prompts a decidedly mixed bag of thoughts :P

regardless of them, the answer to your question is yes
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Very good indeed.
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it was caelus who was castrated by saturn
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Is that why it is on its side spinning?
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the mermaid is actually somebody that can swim through aether...
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the mermaid is actually somebody that can swim through aether...
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Are you a mermaid brah

Hello
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the mermaid is actually somebody that can swim through aether...
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Are you a mermaid brah

Hello
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Me? I was trained by one as a child...
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Hence Atlantis is said to have fallen under the sea ;)
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the mermaid is actually somebody that can swim through aether...
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Are you a mermaid brah

Hello
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Me? I was trained by one as a child...
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Well you are a good swimmer. I suspect the heavy currents do not even bother you these days
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the mermaid is actually somebody that can swim through aether...
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Are you a mermaid brah

Hello
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Me? I was trained by one as a child...
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Well you are a good swimmer. I suspect the heavy currents do not even bother you these days
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I haven't gone swimming in a long time, up until now.
I am more mer than man these days. It's the walking which is real rough. The air which is hard to breathe. Under the water? I can soar, even fly. But it's no occupation. Nobody hires swimmers or divers nowadays.
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q-tip?
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We do know the Uraeus is a serpent crown. It seems to be derived from the same source as Uranus. They both refer to the serpent in a way....

The Uraeus crown is an enlightenment experience. Enlightenment is to lighten a darkness. The void is experienced as darkness in dense form and light in its unburdening encounter with a hero with a sword that reshapes all patterns.
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I don’t know much, but maybe they’re in carnations now, oh I mean incarnated.
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I don’t know much, but maybe they’re in carnations now, oh I mean incarnated.
:happymermaid:
:Cthulhu:
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the cthulhu princess of atlantis, halfway between lucifer and venus, born of the foam castrated off the pillar of the bennu bird.
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I don’t know much, but maybe they’re in carnations now, oh I mean incarnated.
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the cthulhu princess of atlantis, halfway between lucifer and venus, born of the foam castrated off the pillar of the bennu bird.
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Sounds familiar!
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What I do know, it’s gorgeous!

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your anus
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Wow, I couldn't believe how long it took until I found this joke. GLP your rep is undeserved!
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Did chaos go about manifesting itself?
It chose vessels to create the webs which would eventually create it. The perception of order belies this thing attempting to bring itself into existence. Every ark story, every flood story, is the tale of a new pattern being created through the different measure and means of apprehension.

I suppose I've gotten esoteric there, but I wonder if atlantis cthutulu princess intended to exist at all, or if it exists in reality, incarnate, because it eventually led itself to become inevitable.

lets say that god created man, lets say that man created god. lets say they exist mutually. lets say...that they are paragons of one another, shadows from different realities that create each other. In the spaces of chaos, this is where the variables of the unknown can be shaped by the imagination, where senses are deprived and wonder is born from vision. vision which has eyes that glow visibly, because all the light trapped within the black hole of the pupil bursts forth, becoming....

the unmanifest, manifest
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Having Uranus on my mid heaven I've studied it extensively. It represents and will bring on--
1. sudden awareness. so called enlightenment, the moment of knowing free of intermediate steps, sudden total knowing.
2. revolution based on the new knowledge. The revolution of Uranus Must Not Be Stopped or there will be severe repercussions to health and order,
3. Insistence on expressing the True Self even if that is unpopular. Again based on The Truth that dawns, the true character of a person Must be expressed or as above, bad consequences. It's worse to suppress your true self than be cast out of society by it. All forms of social deviance come from the Uranian effect. Always shows up as causative in the charts of people who break the norms
4. Electricity. Metaphorically, electricity is as fast as Uranus's actions, almost seems instantaneous. might as well be.
5. Uranus is the higher octave (actually off the measurable scale) of Mercury. Mercury takes every step and is fast but visible. Uranus jumps all the steps and arrives yesterday, so why aren't you Doing Something About It Already!!! (by the way, Neptune is the higher octave of Venus, being the path of love leading to a field (water like) of transcendence.
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Having Uranus on my mid heaven I've studied it extensively. It represents and will bring on--
1. sudden awareness. so called enlightenment, the moment of knowing free of intermediate steps, sudden total knowing.
2. revolution based on the new knowledge. The revolution of Uranus Must Not Be Stopped or there will be severe repercussions to health and order,
3. Insistence on expressing the True Self even if that is unpopular. Again based on The Truth that dawns, the true character of a person Must be expressed or as above, bad consequences. It's worse to suppress your true self than be cast out of society by it. All forms of social deviance come from the Uranian effect. Always shows up as causative in the charts of people who break the norms
4. Electricity. Metaphorically, electricity is as fast as Uranus's actions, almost seems instantaneous. might as well be.
5. Uranus is the higher octave (actually off the measurable scale) of Mercury. Mercury takes every step and is fast but visible. Uranus jumps all the steps and arrives yesterday, so why aren't you Doing Something About It Already!!! (by the way, Neptune is the higher octave of Venus, being the path of love leading to a field (water like) of transcendence.
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How fascinating. I never knew much about its symbolic applications, and it seems to fit nicely with its many names. Even calling itself "UR ANUS" seems like a giant fuck you that fits its personality. What a joker.

It's the other name for it, Caelus, which has never entered my consciousness. I had no idea that name existed or was associated with a celestial body.
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some equate war to chaos, but it's difficult to envision a war able to be waged without a great deal of order and organization behind the war effort

to up the scale to that of the world wars that have taken place requires an even greater amount of law, order, and systemic bias put into place


subtracting free will from the equation of humanity is all one would need to do to remove the influence of chaos upon us

being able to perceive information through an unbiased view is a case in point of being able to enjoy the fruits that chaos can offer

all manner of media manipulation, predictive programming, mind control, and even memes to some extent are a result of a lasting order attempted to be instituted through preconceived, concerted efforts

the ruling class use chaos in aftermath as a weapon to disillusion those they desire to continue to rule over from realizing how it is that their order is malefic and enslaving to all but themselves



at times, it begs the question of whether order comes out of chaos or if chaos is an inevitable by-product of order

the mythological take is that chaos birthed order, and order was manipulated into disempowering chaos, resulting in a lasting boundary made where both order and chaos had their own realms to reside within, but with all of the enchanting, bewildering, and amusing aspects of chaos remaining within order's realm

as a sidenote, order also consumed it's own children


ever noticed how some have a tendency to decry both order and chaos?


what we get, being a part of order's realm, is a mostly disillusioned view of all that is chaotic being that which distracts from the truth of our existence

beyond the realm we are in bondage to, though, one might observe a drastically different view





GLP