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Anonymous Coward User ID: 64698495 United States 07/14/2019 07:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So the device is designed to interrogate the rhythm not just shock your heart. Quoting: Amanda Lee If you have a day or a week of abnormal heart rythm and it's turned off or it's not reporting, but its below the threshold of shocking, they need the rhythm information as a precurser to shock. You would never know it and it may need to be adjusted. People sometimes have bad rythms and the devise does not fire, so without interrogating it they would not know to change the settings. They need the reporting to adjust the settings to have proper function of the device so it will function correctly to pace or shock. You want it on so it can be evaluated, it is a complex device. Well I report for interrogation every 3 months this or so. It sounds like you work in the field. Do you not think that is sufficient? Would you think the need outweighs any potential danger? Talk it over with your cardiologist or heart failure doctor or whoever put it in. Turning off the function may not be a good idea. |
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot
(OP) User ID: 12454498 United States 07/14/2019 07:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So the device is designed to interrogate the rhythm not just shock your heart. Quoting: Amanda Lee If you have a day or a week of abnormal heart rythm and it's turned off or it's not reporting, but its below the threshold of shocking, they need the rhythm information as a precurser to shock. You would never know it and it may need to be adjusted. People sometimes have bad rythms and the devise does not fire, so without interrogating it they would not know to change the settings. They need the reporting to adjust the settings to have proper function of the device so it will function correctly to pace or shock. You want it on so it can be evaluated, it is a complex device. Well I report for interrogation every 3 months this or so. It sounds like you work in the field. Do you not think that is sufficient? Would you think the need outweighs any potential danger? Talk it over with your cardiologist or heart failure doctor or whoever put it in. Turning off the function may not be a good idea. First thing in the AM Whiskey Tango Foxtrot Certain things, they should stay the way they are. You ought to be able to stick them in one of those big glass cases and just leave them alone. |
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Paranoiaaaaa
User ID: 27249543 Netherlands 07/14/2019 08:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Found this article on it. I never knew it was a thing. Sounds like it can be done with other medical devices also maybe? Quoting: Whiskey Tango Foxtrot [link to www.healthline.com (secure)] I remember reading about the IV pumps in the hospital being vulnerable. Scary indeed!! 'Smart' Hospital IV Pump Vulnerable To Remote Hack Attack [link to www.techdirt.com (secure)] "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you." - Fox Mulder - The X-Files "Life is what happens while you are busy making other plans." - John Lennon |
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User ID: 72716118 United States 07/14/2019 09:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Kind of scary, makes you wonder if they already have kill codes embedded in these devices? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11126160 With that said, a lot of these newer vehicles have so many computers and wifi capabilities, it is SCARY. My brother in law tried to avoid a huge tumble weed on the highway in his new car and it auto-corrected and would NOT allow him to swerve into the other lane to avoid the object!!! FUCK THAT!!! what kind of car is this? Piercing my heart there is a golden dagger; that is God Piercing God's heart there is a golden needle; that is me |
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janedoenut
User ID: 73294316 United States 07/14/2019 10:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Was gonna say the same thing. “If you'll let me tell you what I imagine about myself, you'll find it a lot more interesting” –Anne Shirley "Seemingly your father nor mother taught you that as a man, it's your job to protect and provide for women and lead strong families. As men, had you done your job, you wouldn't be living in a matriarchal society." - Janedoenut, 2018 |
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User ID: 73294316 United States 07/14/2019 10:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not sure. But my son said any hacker would have to be a Medtronic tech also to make it work. I really hope they are working on some kind of security for it. This just happened this weekend so I am calling Medtronic in the morning to ask more questions. Quoting: Whiskey Tango Foxtrot You could contact them? I said a prayer for you too. [link to jobs.medtronic.com (secure)] Looks like the cardiac techs work for various services? Last Edited by janedoenut on 07/14/2019 10:38 PM “If you'll let me tell you what I imagine about myself, you'll find it a lot more interesting” –Anne Shirley "Seemingly your father nor mother taught you that as a man, it's your job to protect and provide for women and lead strong families. As men, had you done your job, you wouldn't be living in a matriarchal society." - Janedoenut, 2018 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 35676288 United States 07/14/2019 10:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Common, I read this here last summer. [link to www.theguardian.com (secure)] |
OptimusPrimeX
User ID: 72679012 United States 07/14/2019 10:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To set the background, I have a cardiomyopathy and my doc implanted a pacemaker/ defibrillator years ago due to the possibility of sudden cardiac failure. I am not dependent on it but it is there for emergency. I have had it long enough to have 3 replacements because the battery only last 4-5 years. Well the newest one is readable from home. They sent me home with an interrogation device that reads my data and sends it in nightly for analysis through wifi. Pretty cool huh? Quoting: Whiskey Tango Foxtrot My son works cyber security for a branch of the Gov. I won't go into details but he is an ethical hacker. They combat criminal hacking obviously. He had heard that it was possible to hack my new device so attempted it and succeeded. I got rid of the interrogation device they gave me and told them I will make appts for device interrogation when needed. However anyone close enough to intercept my RF signal could do it through wifi. I dont pretend to know how this is done but my son told me they would really have to know the interrogation protocol of my device to adjust the settings, shock me or shut it off. He did get in far enough to read notes left on my diagnosis within the device. It was kind of cool but real creepy also. Still not sure how I feel about it. well, your stupid son is having his flesh stripped from him right now by medi-cabal T$ goons and you're definably next.... or, it's sunday and you're GLP'ing. you DO understand what's implied, correct? Bro stop being so paranoid.. OP don't worry about it but definitely very interesting at least. btw is this due to a heart attack or artery issues? There's a reason I ask. Last Edited by OptimusPrimeX on 07/14/2019 10:44 PM |
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I don’t want flowers when I die… User ID: 77732731 Poland 07/14/2019 11:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To set the background, I have a cardiomyopathy and my doc implanted a pacemaker/ defibrillator years ago due to the possibility of sudden cardiac failure. I am not dependent on it but it is there for emergency. I have had it long enough to have 3 replacements because the battery only last 4-5 years. Well the newest one is readable from home. They sent me home with an interrogation device that reads my data and sends it in nightly for analysis through wifi. Pretty cool huh? Quoting: Whiskey Tango Foxtrot My son works cyber security for a branch of the Gov. I won't go into details but he is an ethical hacker. They combat criminal hacking obviously. He had heard that it was possible to hack my new device so attempted it and succeeded. I got rid of the interrogation device they gave me and told them I will make appts for device interrogation when needed. However anyone close enough to intercept my RF signal could do it through wifi. I dont pretend to know how this is done but my son told me they would really have to know the interrogation protocol of my device to adjust the settings, shock me or shut it off. He did get in far enough to read notes left on my diagnosis within the device. It was kind of cool but real creepy also. Still not sure how I feel about it. It's a very complex situation... if your son could hacked it he could also find a way to prevent it... I'm pretty sure he would do it! |
Deplorable Zenobia
User ID: 77738794 United States 07/14/2019 11:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wasn't it Cheney hollerin' way back when about being concerned about intel on one scenario was a hacker fry is his ass via hacking his pacemaker? Yeah, not sure if I even would want one of those devices but I suppose it's not an option for some folks out there. Last Edited by Deplorable Zenobia on 07/14/2019 11:34 PM And thought struggles against the results, trying to avoid those unpleasant results while keeping on with that way of thinking. That is what I call 'sustained incoherence.' ...David Bohm “How, O Zenobia, hast thou dared to insult Roman emperors?” ...Aurelian, 44th Emperor of the Roman Empire |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11126160 United States 07/14/2019 11:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Kind of scary, makes you wonder if they already have kill codes embedded in these devices? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11126160 With that said, a lot of these newer vehicles have so many computers and wifi capabilities, it is SCARY. My brother in law tried to avoid a huge tumble weed on the highway in his new car and it auto-corrected and would NOT allow him to swerve into the other lane to avoid the object!!! FUCK THAT!!! what kind of car is this? 2019 Subaru Ascent |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 45884232 United States 07/14/2019 11:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The fact that you even have a pacemaker means: 1) you have shit genetics, 2) you eat like shit, 3) modern tech has saved you from your real time to go. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71231130 Your son hacking your heart is the least of your concerns. The fact that you even thought about making this type of comment in the first place should be your primary concern as to why you're simply a troll mad at the next person because your life is itself miserable. Misery loves company. As for OP, 5* thread! Nice supporting reading material by others! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77789229 United States 07/14/2019 11:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The fact that you even have a pacemaker means: 1) you have shit genetics, 2) you eat like shit, 3) modern tech has saved you from your real time to go. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71231130 Your son hacking your heart is the least of your concerns. Sad little troll. Zero knowledge and a keyboard Petri dish life....... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71231130 United States 07/14/2019 11:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The fact that you even have a pacemaker means: 1) you have shit genetics, 2) you eat like shit, 3) modern tech has saved you from your real time to go. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71231130 Your son hacking your heart is the least of your concerns. Sad little troll. Zero knowledge and a keyboard Petri dish life....... Tick tock... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77206374 United States 07/15/2019 12:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To set the background, I have a cardiomyopathy and my doc implanted a pacemaker/ defibrillator years ago due to the possibility of sudden cardiac failure. I am not dependent on it but it is there for emergency. I have had it long enough to have 3 replacements because the battery only last 4-5 years. Well the newest one is readable from home. They sent me home with an interrogation device that reads my data and sends it in nightly for analysis through wifi. Pretty cool huh? Quoting: Whiskey Tango Foxtrot My son works cyber security for a branch of the Gov. I won't go into details but he is an ethical hacker. They combat criminal hacking obviously. He had heard that it was possible to hack my new device so attempted it and succeeded. I got rid of the interrogation device they gave me and told them I will make appts for device interrogation when needed. However anyone close enough to intercept my RF signal could do it through wifi. I dont pretend to know how this is done but my son told me they would really have to know the interrogation protocol of my device to adjust the settings, shock me or shut it off. He did get in far enough to read notes left on my diagnosis within the device. It was kind of cool but real creepy also. Still not sure how I feel about it. I remember years ago I read an article about how easy it was to hack insulin pumps and pacemakers. They even said that regardless of how easy it was, the risk was too low to bother and fix the flaw. I can’t find that particular article but here’s another: [link to news.aamc.org (secure)] Someone posted a thread here eventually about insulin pumps being hacked: Thread: INSULIN PUMPS HACKED: Medtronic is recalling "MiniMed" insulin pumps after the FDA says they're vulnerable to hackers changing their se |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77673772 United States 07/15/2019 12:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | all forms of matter can be altered. sleep a little safer knowing you are not alone you are not a target you are not without tools to your disposal you are not some toy to be hacked into and finally take measures to care for your rhythm and home. know your limits and wifi range. find your favorite thoughts. communicate your struggles and strengths. and finally be brave to know. the pacemaker you pace make is a signal that you are never afraid to reach. being mindful will hopefully give you ideas you never admired before. and finally ill pray no one does that to you thats a scary thought but each moment that you have be helped from the pacemaker is also a scary thought. im so happy to have talked to you. no more scary thoughts about your pacemaker now. okay? |
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(OP) User ID: 74518068 United States 07/15/2019 10:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not sure. But my son said any hacker would have to be a Medtronic tech also to make it work. I really hope they are working on some kind of security for it. This just happened this weekend so I am calling Medtronic in the morning to ask more questions. Quoting: Whiskey Tango Foxtrot You could contact them? I said a prayer for you too. [link to jobs.medtronic.com (secure)] Looks like the cardiac techs work for various services? Thank you. They have contact info. Waiting for a return call now. Whiskey Tango Foxtrot Certain things, they should stay the way they are. You ought to be able to stick them in one of those big glass cases and just leave them alone. |
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot
(OP) User ID: 74518068 United States 07/15/2019 10:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To set the background, I have a cardiomyopathy and my doc implanted a pacemaker/ defibrillator years ago due to the possibility of sudden cardiac failure. I am not dependent on it but it is there for emergency. I have had it long enough to have 3 replacements because the battery only last 4-5 years. Well the newest one is readable from home. They sent me home with an interrogation device that reads my data and sends it in nightly for analysis through wifi. Pretty cool huh? Quoting: Whiskey Tango Foxtrot My son works cyber security for a branch of the Gov. I won't go into details but he is an ethical hacker. They combat criminal hacking obviously. He had heard that it was possible to hack my new device so attempted it and succeeded. I got rid of the interrogation device they gave me and told them I will make appts for device interrogation when needed. However anyone close enough to intercept my RF signal could do it through wifi. I dont pretend to know how this is done but my son told me they would really have to know the interrogation protocol of my device to adjust the settings, shock me or shut it off. He did get in far enough to read notes left on my diagnosis within the device. It was kind of cool but real creepy also. Still not sure how I feel about it. well, your stupid son is having his flesh stripped from him right now by medi-cabal T$ goons and you're definably next.... or, it's sunday and you're GLP'ing. you DO understand what's implied, correct? Bro stop being so paranoid.. OP don't worry about it but definitely very interesting at least. btw is this due to a heart attack or artery issues? There's a reason I ask. Ha. Thanks. I am not worried. He works high level gov. He will be fine. I am not an internet tough guy but I am pretty capable haha Whiskey Tango Foxtrot Certain things, they should stay the way they are. You ought to be able to stick them in one of those big glass cases and just leave them alone. |
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot
(OP) User ID: 74518068 United States 07/15/2019 12:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The fact that you even have a pacemaker means: 1) you have shit genetics, 2) you eat like shit, 3) modern tech has saved you from your real time to go. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71231130 Your son hacking your heart is the least of your concerns. The fact that you even thought about making this type of comment in the first place should be your primary concern as to why you're simply a troll mad at the next person because your life is itself miserable. Misery loves company. As for OP, 5* thread! Nice supporting reading material by others! Thank you. Truth is he is probably right on some level. But he doesn't hurt my feelings. I served a few tours and drank like a rockstar when I got home. I probably contributed lol. I dont understand what it has to do with the current thread about hacking the device though. Docs said I had a virus that caused the cardiomyopathy. Who knows if I could have helped by living healthier? It isn't something I dwell on or care about. Just moving forward. I watch my health much closer now haha Whiskey Tango Foxtrot Certain things, they should stay the way they are. You ought to be able to stick them in one of those big glass cases and just leave them alone. |
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