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Was the moon landing faked? Poll

 
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Before I vote answer me this. How did the tin cans go through the Van Allen radiation belt when we cannot do that today?
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this1

How can you travel to Mars if you never ever landed on the moon.
They must think we are all stupid.

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Ok tards let's see how many morans there are here
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This is an incredibly disappointing result. For free thinkers, I'm surprised at this. You're being manipulated by these FE people and other nonsense that is easily disproven. Moon landings happened. The idea they didn't is a distraction.
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Fuck karma, can't deal with backwoods luddites. Take your shit over to clavius.org and try and come back in one piece. Fucking bunch of amoebas.
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Wasn't this about the same time LSD was popular and everyone was on a "fuck the establishment" binge?
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Before I vote answer me this. How did the tin cans go through the Van Allen radiation belt when we cannot do that today?
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Due to the wavelengths of that radiation it was actually an advantage for the metal to be thin. Additionally their trajectory directed them through a less severely concentrated part of the belts. We could do it today if we desired to.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78185584


The inner Van Allen belt consists largely of highly energetic protons, with energy exceeding 30,000,000 electron volts. The peak intensity of these protons is approximately 20,000 particles per second crossing a spherical area of one square cm in all directions.

Even in less severely concentrated part radiation is enough to kill in very short time. You have to cross the belt anyway.
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Ok tards let's see how many morans there are here
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This is an incredibly disappointing result. For free thinkers, I'm surprised at this. You're being manipulated by these FE people and other nonsense that is easily disproven. Moon landings happened. The idea they didn't is a distraction.
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Now with use of very high quality deep fakes they can simulate landing on Mars too and sheeple will buy it. Most superior AI wins the race.

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Before I vote answer me this. How did the tin cans go through the Van Allen radiation belt when we cannot do that today?
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Due to the wavelengths of that radiation it was actually an advantage for the metal to be thin. Additionally their trajectory directed them through a less severely concentrated part of the belts. We could do it today if we desired to.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78185584


The inner Van Allen belt consists largely of highly energetic protons, with energy exceeding 30,000,000 electron volts. The peak intensity of these protons is approximately 20,000 particles per second crossing a spherical area of one square cm in all directions.

Even in less severely concentrated part radiation is enough to kill in very short time. You have to cross the belt anyway.
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They were real . I do not want to derail the thread . I will say this : I have held a moon rock . Long story . I think they went there . They were chosen for the most part not to act like rockstars after their return on purpose .
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U sure it was a "moon rock"??

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One mis-identification or mistake negates the whole of geology? I think not.
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This poll is a perfect example of the mental illness rampant on this site.
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Before I vote answer me this. How did the tin cans go through the Van Allen radiation belt when we cannot do that today?
 Quoting: Mukk1234


Due to the wavelengths of that radiation it was actually an advantage for the metal to be thin. Additionally their trajectory directed them through a less severely concentrated part of the belts. We could do it today if we desired to.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78185584


The inner Van Allen belt consists largely of highly energetic protons, with energy exceeding 30,000,000 electron volts. The peak intensity of these protons is approximately 20,000 particles per second crossing a spherical area of one square cm in all directions.

Even in less severely concentrated part radiation is enough to kill in very short time. You have to cross the belt anyway.
 Quoting: TSPNS


"The Van Allen belts are most intense over the Equator and are effectively absent above the poles. No real gap exists between the two zones; they actually merge gradually, with the flux of charged particles showing two regions of maximum density..."

It's interesting that you chose to leave out this paragraph which precedes the one you copied and pasted and details how these belts are "effectively absent above the poles."

That being said, I misspoke regarding wavelength. It has been years since I even thought about this aspect of the moon landing denying nonsense. The hull of the craft was designed specifically to reflect and/or absorb the high energy particles (depending on what layer you're talking about). Still, the width of certain of these layers is important because when, for example, high energy electrons hit certain materials the impact can give off high energy wavelengths (ionizing radiation) that would have been dangerous. So having very thin layers of such materials was an advantage.
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Before I vote answer me this. How did the tin cans go through the Van Allen radiation belt when we cannot do that today?
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Due to the wavelengths of that radiation it was actually an advantage for the metal to be thin. Additionally their trajectory directed them through a less severely concentrated part of the belts. We could do it today if we desired to.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78185584


The inner Van Allen belt consists largely of highly energetic protons, with energy exceeding 30,000,000 electron volts. The peak intensity of these protons is approximately 20,000 particles per second crossing a spherical area of one square cm in all directions.

Even in less severely concentrated part radiation is enough to kill in very short time. You have to cross the belt anyway.
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"The Van Allen belts are most intense over the Equator and are effectively absent above the poles. No real gap exists between the two zones; they actually merge gradually, with the flux of charged particles showing two regions of maximum density..."

It's interesting that you chose to leave out this paragraph which precedes the one you copied and pasted and details how these belts are "effectively absent above the poles."

That being said, I misspoke regarding wavelength. It has been years since I even thought about this aspect of the moon landing denying nonsense. The hull of the craft was designed specifically to reflect and/or absorb the high energy particles (depending on what layer you're talking about). Still, the width of certain of these layers is important because when, for example, high energy electrons hit certain materials the impact can give off high energy wavelengths (ionizing radiation) that would have been dangerous. So having very thin layers of such materials was an advantage.
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Please answer simple layman's question. Now, imagine for a second that moon landing is piece of cake and the distance from Moon to Earth is actually driving distance. Sixty years passed since 1963. Wouldn't it be all over internet travel to Moon, multibillion businesses providing travel to Moon and we would see in daylight humans walking on the Moon etc. What is the problem?
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Ok tards let's see how many morans there are here
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Yes. Why yes it was.
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i reckon, most if not all the missions were likely faked
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Ok tards let's see how many morans there are here
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Yes. Why yes it was.
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STANLEY KUBRICK ADMITS APOLLO MOON LANDING WAS A STAGED, THEATRICAL PRODUCTION


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Ok tards let's see how many morans there are here
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The Moon Landing was real, the OP is fucking fake, TO the max..


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Before I vote answer me this. How did the tin cans go through the Van Allen radiation belt when we cannot do that today?
 Quoting: Mukk1234


:this1:

How can you travel to Mars if you never ever landed on the moon.
They must think we are all stupid.
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keep on fakin it till u make it!
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it was staged at an energy ministry test site in nevada
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Wow, so many butthurt marxists because Russia lost the moon race.

USA is the greatest country of all time and will always be remembered for being first to the moon.
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LOL, is that what makes a country great?

STFU...

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Before I vote answer me this. How did the tin cans go through the Van Allen radiation belt when we cannot do that today?
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they went AROUND them dummy.
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specialstupid
You really are gullible, huh? and not much of a critical thinker, are you????

"go around" Haha! what a moran!!
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Very good one!
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'Nuff said
Thread: My Husband Directed The Fake Moon Landing Says Stanley Kubrick's Widow.
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we still havn't gone back!
Look at every thing the 1960's and how it is today.

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Before I vote answer me this. How did the tin cans go through the Van Allen radiation belt when we cannot do that today?
 Quoting: Mukk1234


Due to the wavelengths of that radiation it was actually an advantage for the metal to be thin. Additionally their trajectory directed them through a less severely concentrated part of the belts. We could do it today if we desired to.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78185584


The inner Van Allen belt consists largely of highly energetic protons, with energy exceeding 30,000,000 electron volts. The peak intensity of these protons is approximately 20,000 particles per second crossing a spherical area of one square cm in all directions.

Even in less severely concentrated part radiation is enough to kill in very short time. You have to cross the belt anyway.
 Quoting: TSPNS


"The Van Allen belts are most intense over the Equator and are effectively absent above the poles. No real gap exists between the two zones; they actually merge gradually, with the flux of charged particles showing two regions of maximum density..."

It's interesting that you chose to leave out this paragraph which precedes the one you copied and pasted and details how these belts are "effectively absent above the poles."

That being said, I misspoke regarding wavelength. It has been years since I even thought about this aspect of the moon landing denying nonsense. The hull of the craft was designed specifically to reflect and/or absorb the high energy particles (depending on what layer you're talking about). Still, the width of certain of these layers is important because when, for example, high energy electrons hit certain materials the impact can give off high energy wavelengths (ionizing radiation) that would have been dangerous. So having very thin layers of such materials was an advantage.
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Yes, the LM had a "thin skin", about the thickness of three layers of Reynold's Wrap.

It was pressurized to 4.8 PSI, pure oxygen internal atmosphere.

Why didn't it explode, when sitting on the Moon in a HARD VACUUM?

drevil
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Yes, the LM had a "thin skin", about the thickness of three layers of Reynold's Wrap.

It was pressurized to 4.8 PSI, pure oxygen internal atmosphere.

Why didn't it explode, when sitting on the Moon in a HARD VACUUM?

drevil
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Yeah.

That's a problem...
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"The Van Allen belts are most intense over the Equator and are effectively absent above the poles. No real gap exists between the two zones; they actually merge gradually, with the flux of charged particles showing two regions of maximum density..."

It's interesting that you chose to leave out this paragraph which precedes the one you copied and pasted and details how these belts are "effectively absent above the poles."

That being said, I misspoke regarding wavelength. It has been years since I even thought about this aspect of the moon landing denying nonsense. The hull of the craft was designed specifically to reflect and/or absorb the high energy particles (depending on what layer you're talking about). Still, the width of certain of these layers is important because when, for example, high energy electrons hit certain materials the impact can give off high energy wavelengths (ionizing radiation) that would have been dangerous. So having very thin layers of such materials was an advantage.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78185584


Please answer simple layman's question. Now, imagine for a second that moon landing is piece of cake and the distance from Moon to Earth is actually driving distance. Sixty years passed since 1963. Wouldn't it be all over internet travel to Moon, multibillion businesses providing travel to Moon and we would see in daylight humans walking on the Moon etc. What is the problem?
 Quoting: TSPNS


Indeed.

Regardless of the fake/real debate, I would also like to
hear the answer. Valid, simple question.
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Due to the wavelengths of that radiation it was actually an advantage for the metal to be thin. Additionally their trajectory directed them through a less severely concentrated part of the belts. We could do it today if we desired to.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78185584


The inner Van Allen belt consists largely of highly energetic protons, with energy exceeding 30,000,000 electron volts. The peak intensity of these protons is approximately 20,000 particles per second crossing a spherical area of one square cm in all directions.

Even in less severely concentrated part radiation is enough to kill in very short time. You have to cross the belt anyway.
 Quoting: TSPNS


"The Van Allen belts are most intense over the Equator and are effectively absent above the poles. No real gap exists between the two zones; they actually merge gradually, with the flux of charged particles showing two regions of maximum density..."

It's interesting that you chose to leave out this paragraph which precedes the one you copied and pasted and details how these belts are "effectively absent above the poles."

That being said, I misspoke regarding wavelength. It has been years since I even thought about this aspect of the moon landing denying nonsense. The hull of the craft was designed specifically to reflect and/or absorb the high energy particles (depending on what layer you're talking about). Still, the width of certain of these layers is important because when, for example, high energy electrons hit certain materials the impact can give off high energy wavelengths (ionizing radiation) that would have been dangerous. So having very thin layers of such materials was an advantage.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78185584


Yes, the LM had a "thin skin", about the thickness of three layers of Reynold's Wrap.

It was pressurized to 4.8 PSI, pure oxygen internal atmosphere.

Why didn't it explode, when sitting on the Moon in a HARD VACUUM?

drevil
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What you’ve “been hearing” illustrates the problems that can arise from explaining complex topics to a lay audience through oversimplification—then repeating the oversimplification ad nauseum because it’s pithy.

First, the LEM only held a third of an atmosphere (of 100% oxygen), and it was only rated for a small number of pressurization cycles. For comparison, an ordinary soda can holds six times that pressure.

But the whole question is misleading, because the LM was not an aluminium can. Yes in some spots, its skin was as thin as 0.006 inches (1.524 mm). That’s 1.5 times the thickness of a modern soda can, or about the thickness of contemporary cans. However, the LM was not merely a paper-thin aluminium sheet.

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The LM was made of grid-like trusses of metal skin with welded-on ribs to create strong, rigid bulkheads. The panels were also chemically etched so that the skin between the ribs tapered toward the middle (the space between ribs) so as not to contain more material than needed mechanically. This is where the thin stuff was—just a few strips and patches equidistant between ribs. This is the only place the skin was thin enough to puncture with a screwdriver, though even doing that by mistake would have taken a feat of bad luck.

And for the record, I’ve only ever seen documentation for parts of the descent stage being only 0.006 inches thick. The ascent stage bulkhead might well have been thicker, though I do know they were thin enough to “oil can” or pop as temperatures changed while the astronauts slept.

Regardless, that’s all misleading. The LM wasn’t made of the cheap, soft 3000-series aluminium alloy we are familiar with from our kitchens. The LM was made mostly from heat-treated 2219 and 7075 aluminium alloys. 2219 was used in areas where high strength and fracture resistance were required. 7075 (which was developed during WWII by Japan and used in naval aviation toward the end of the war), was used for its exceptional tensile strength—comparable to steel. Both were (and are) expensive and difficult to fabricate.

After the bulkheads were welded together, the LM was surrounded by a system of struts that further increased rigidity (much like the stiffening wires in a biplane) and provided attachments for the micrometeorite shields

[link to qph.fs.quoracdn.net (secure)]


Those shields were also aluminium (mostly), along with multi-layer blankets of aluminized plastic, and of course, certain high temperature or high strength components were made of magnesium alloy or titanium.

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The inner Van Allen belt consists largely of highly energetic protons, with energy exceeding 30,000,000 electron volts. The peak intensity of these protons is approximately 20,000 particles per second crossing a spherical area of one square cm in all directions.

Even in less severely concentrated part radiation is enough to kill in very short time. You have to cross the belt anyway.
 Quoting: TSPNS


"The Van Allen belts are most intense over the Equator and are effectively absent above the poles. No real gap exists between the two zones; they actually merge gradually, with the flux of charged particles showing two regions of maximum density..."

It's interesting that you chose to leave out this paragraph which precedes the one you copied and pasted and details how these belts are "effectively absent above the poles."

That being said, I misspoke regarding wavelength. It has been years since I even thought about this aspect of the moon landing denying nonsense. The hull of the craft was designed specifically to reflect and/or absorb the high energy particles (depending on what layer you're talking about). Still, the width of certain of these layers is important because when, for example, high energy electrons hit certain materials the impact can give off high energy wavelengths (ionizing radiation) that would have been dangerous. So having very thin layers of such materials was an advantage.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78185584


Yes, the LM had a "thin skin", about the thickness of three layers of Reynold's Wrap.

It was pressurized to 4.8 PSI, pure oxygen internal atmosphere.

Why didn't it explode, when sitting on the Moon in a HARD VACUUM?

drevil
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79301316


What you’ve “been hearing” illustrates the problems that can arise from explaining complex topics to a lay audience through oversimplification—then repeating the oversimplification ad nauseum because it’s pithy.

First, the LEM only held a third of an atmosphere (of 100% oxygen), and it was only rated for a small number of pressurization cycles. For comparison, an ordinary soda can holds six times that pressure.

But the whole question is misleading, because the LM was not an aluminium can. Yes in some spots, its skin was as thin as 0.006 inches (1.524 mm). That’s 1.5 times the thickness of a modern soda can, or about the thickness of contemporary cans. However, the LM was not merely a paper-thin aluminium sheet.

[link to qph.fs.quoracdn.net (secure)]

The LM was made of grid-like trusses of metal skin with welded-on ribs to create strong, rigid bulkheads. The panels were also chemically etched so that the skin between the ribs tapered toward the middle (the space between ribs) so as not to contain more material than needed mechanically. This is where the thin stuff was—just a few strips and patches equidistant between ribs. This is the only place the skin was thin enough to puncture with a screwdriver, though even doing that by mistake would have taken a feat of bad luck.

And for the record, I’ve only ever seen documentation for parts of the descent stage being only 0.006 inches thick. The ascent stage bulkhead might well have been thicker, though I do know they were thin enough to “oil can” or pop as temperatures changed while the astronauts slept.

Regardless, that’s all misleading. The LM wasn’t made of the cheap, soft 3000-series aluminium alloy we are familiar with from our kitchens. The LM was made mostly from heat-treated 2219 and 7075 aluminium alloys. 2219 was used in areas where high strength and fracture resistance were required. 7075 (which was developed during WWII by Japan and used in naval aviation toward the end of the war), was used for its exceptional tensile strength—comparable to steel. Both were (and are) expensive and difficult to fabricate.

After the bulkheads were welded together, the LM was surrounded by a system of struts that further increased rigidity (much like the stiffening wires in a biplane) and provided attachments for the micrometeorite shields

[link to qph.fs.quoracdn.net (secure)]


Those shields were also aluminium (mostly), along with multi-layer blankets of aluminized plastic, and of course, certain high temperature or high strength components were made of magnesium alloy or titanium.

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Wall of copy-pasted text without clear meaning. Important one sentence explaining radiation shielding mechanism is missing.
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