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Was the moon landing faked? Poll

 
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In one-sixth gravity everything would weigh one-sixth, or 16.7 percent, of its Earth weight. A 180-pound man would weigh a mere 30 pounds. Writers were speculating on the athletic abilities of men on the Moon long before the space program and Apollo. They based their calculations on one-sixth gravity. The public was anticipating some of these spectacular athletic feats when astronauts explored the Moon, but none were ever performed. The reader may remember the televised pictures of astronauts moving around on the Moon's surface. If so, do you recall any extraordinary feats. In actuality, there were none.

In the November 1967 issue of Science Digest, an article appeared by James R. Berry entitled, "How to Walk on the Moon."1 In it, Berry predicted that men would be able to make 14-foot slow-motion leaps, perform backflips and other gymnastics like professionals, and be able to easily move up ladders and poles with their arms.
Another prediction was given in 1969 by the Writers of U.S. News & World Report in U.S. on the Moon:
With gravity on the moon only one-sixth as strong as it is on earth, a home-run hitter in a lunar baseball game could drive a ball well over half a mile. A golfer's drive from the tee would sail clear over the horizon.

The height an object will rise in a gravitational field depends on its initial velocity. If an object had the same initial velocity in one-sixth gravity as it had on Earth, it would rise six times as high. If the initial velocity of the object were doubled over its Earth velocity, it would rise 24 times as high, and if tripled, it would rise 54 times the Earth height.
A man jumps vertically by bending his kness and then flexing his thigh muscles to full extension. This propels him off the ground with a given initial velocity. If an astronaut were to jump vertically in one-sixth gravity with the same effort expended on Earth, the initial velocity would be greater than on Earth. Therefore, the astronaut would go more than six times higher.

Did we see anything like that???? no

The Rover would have been completely unstable, it would have been flying at the slightest bump, the rooster tail would have been absolutely massive..

No everything we saw was Earth gravity, the astronots were jumping mere inches, the film speed was slightly altered, every film producer knows that trick though.
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None of them would have been 180 pounds to start as they were all carrying extra equipment. That equipment also changed their center of gravity making jumps more unstable. the suits made it harder to flex those knees so most jumps were done with knees barely bent but still got a few feet up. Not many that can do that in Earth gravity. How does altering the film speed work when they had live interaction with mission control and discussion of current sports scores? That shows it wasn't prerecorded.
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None of them would have been 180 pounds to start as they were all carrying extra equipment. That equipment also changed their center of gravity making jumps more unstable. the suits made it harder to flex those knees so most jumps were done with knees barely bent but still got a few feet up. Not many that can do that in Earth gravity. How does altering the film speed work when they had live interaction with mission control and discussion of current sports scores? That shows it wasn't prerecorded.
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Well, if I was faking it I would dub in the current sports scores. They certainly knew the game schedule in advance.
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yeah agreed... 70% no less..LOL
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Um no the 30% are the ones a hurting...brain aches 'cause they are blind and sadly gullible and think not for themselves
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Who pointed the camera upwards? They didn't have motion sensing camera equipment back then.

Who retrieved the film from the camera? They didn't have digital video back then.

Where's the crater under the lander? A 10,0000 pounds of thrust is going to create a dust crater under the lander.
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Ha, NASA has an answer you silly billy. See my last post I am not kidding a guy on Earth pressed a button at just the right time to get the shot. He only had one try. He nailed it.

Obviously the video was beamed to earth via the orbiter like any live shots which was totally possible then.
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Wow..... Your a Trekky fan no doubt and think what they did on the show was real as well
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For the 30% here is some more of your reality tv
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


So, a quick search reveals the lander had navigational gyros, but not stabilizing gyros.


OOOOOOOPS!
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Why would they need stabilizing gyros? You are a fail at physics. They used maneuvering thrusters and vectored thrust from main engine with gimbals.
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Invisible thrust flames?

That's new!
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Who says it was flames? Compressed gas I think.
They had issues with it on Apollo 13 on the return.

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really great and memorable poll!
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Who pointed the camera upwards? They didn't have motion sensing camera equipment back then.

Who retrieved the film from the camera? They didn't have digital video back then.

Where's the crater under the lander? A 10,0000 pounds of thrust is going to create a dust crater under the lander.
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Ha, NASA has an answer you silly billy. See my last post I am not kidding a guy on Earth pressed a button at just the right time to get the shot. He only had one try. He nailed it.

Obviously the video was beamed to earth via the orbiter like any live shots which was totally possible then
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The famous footprint!
That would only be possible with moisture in the dust, have you ever tried to leave a footprint like that in the dry arid moistureless desert?
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The famous footprint!
That would only be possible with moisture in the dust, have you ever tried to leave a footprint like that in the dry arid moistureless desert?
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Thats not infact correct, i believe at that time the USSR population was starving, the usa supplied them with huge amount of wheat round about 1969 i believe.
 Quoting: Kiwi Coward 75703785

We need facts, not believes.

In fact, the USSR had record grain harvests in the late 60s.
Later they wanted to increase their beef production so they bought fodder on the international market.

Also Chhina and japan would have noticed the lander leg base thingy still on the moon, and those rovers,.so usa must have gone there.
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"lander leg base thingy"?
I can tell you're very knowledgeable about Apollo.

They only would have noticed them if they went looking with equipment capable of seeing them.
Both Japanese and Indian probes detected disturbances on the right site.
JAXA confirmed that the local topology as recorded by Apollo 15 does indeed exist on that site.

Errr Some those rocks when tested were petrified Wood.
 Quoting: Kiwi Coward 75703785

Nope.
A rock, which never was one of the rocks, turned out not being one of the rocks,
Well, duh.

Thousands of scientific paper have been published on the Moon samples.
NONE OF THEM casts any doubt on them being from the Moon.
book
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haven't started on you yet, but i suggest you recheck your facts, cause im about to discredit your FACTS.
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Still waiting! Ready to read some of your top-drawer discrediting.
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It is an admission it wasn't about truth finding.
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BS
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77134005

Be a sheep than.

Kaysing wanted to fabricate a political weapon to be used against the US government.
The truth just gets in the way of that.
This is after all the person who coined the "Where are the stars!?" malarkey.
Unless you want to claim he was indeed stupid and ignorant enough to believe that that is not nonsense he was indeed making shit up.

If YOU claim anything was faked than YOU have the burden to prove so.
This will require POSITIVE evidence.
Not idle speculation on what could have been.
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 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD

Has nothing to do with what I wanted, I was a year old. It speaks to the fact that an extended horizon could not be faked, but an artificial close horizon could.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77134005

How do you intent to prove this assertion?
And how do you intent to prove that that is the reason such photos weren't made?

This is a pressure-fed engine (no pumps) operating in a vacuum (no turbulence, the main source of noise for earth-launched rockets).
The astronauts microphones are voice activated and are inside the bubble helmets.
book
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Irrelevant. The vibration from a rocket engine would have been audable inside the helmet.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77134005

How do you intent to prove this assertion?

Also, the recording device is on Earth, yet several more steps down the line.

Sways back and forth without directional thrusters. LOL
Gyros?
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Are you claiming that the LM didn't have an RCS?

Holy fuck!
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No, It's obvious the RCS wasn't being used, otherwise you would see the thrusts.
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So you are asserting that the exhaust of hypergolic engines should be visible in a vacuum?

Holy fuck!

If you don't want to look like a clown while debating astronautics fucking learn something about it first.

The RCS was fed the same fuel as the ascend engine, you can't see the exhaust from that one either.


What you actually see is the spacecraft swinging back and forth as if on a wire, without the thrusters being activated.
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How do you intent to prove this assertion?

Your fallacy: Proof by assertion.

Invisible thrust flames?

That's new!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77134005

To you it is.

But than "hoaxie" and "ignorant about anything related to spacetravel" are synonyms.
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book
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All your evidence facts and logic are made up
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Yet you not even trying to prove so.

I wonder why that is.
Not really. We all know that that is because you can't and you know you can't.
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The famous footprint!
That would only be possible with moisture in the dust
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77758744

Since there do exist granulate materials right here on Earth that can do just that this is a demonstrably false statement.

You silly, it is not Earth dust, it is lunar regolith which has different properties from Earth dust.
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haven't started on you yet, but i suggest you recheck your facts, cause im about to discredit your FACTS.
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Still waiting! Ready to read some of your top-drawer discrediting.
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Hoaxies are all blab, but no substance.
Acquiring substance would require intellectual labour as wel as intellectual honesty.
Concepts anathema to conspirafantasism.
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None of you were there, but this person was.
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Bart Sibrel's unedited, never before broadcast, interview with, now deceased, original moon landing hoax proponent and former contractor to NASA during the Apollo moon missions, Billy Kaysing. The interview was edited out of Sibrel's "A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Moon" at the request of Fox Television to make the film fit into a one hour time slot.

Mr. Kaysing discusses his first hand account of the incredible atmosphere of engineering ineptitude, on-the-job drunkenness, and endless insurmountable schedule slippages that were rampant in the program, dooming it to failure. "The only way to make it, was to fake it", he said was the underground motto of the staff.

Never before in all of recorded aviation has a flying machine worked on its first attempt, much less the most complicated one ever imagined, landing on another heavenly body on its maiden voyage, and returning roundtrip with a crew that lived to tell, all with 1960's technology. (More computing power today is found in a $10 watch).

According Kaysing, a classified interdepartmental memo rated the odds of a successful and survivable manned lunar landing on its first attempt at one in ten thousand. That is why the returning men of the mission looked so dejected rather than triumphant at their press conference, as they were blackmailed into lying about the alleged greatest accomplishment of mankind, to the detriment of their own souls.
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None of you were there, but this person was.
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
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Bart Sibrel's unedited, never before broadcast, interview with, now deceased, original moon landing hoax proponent and former contractor to NASA during the Apollo moon missions, Billy Kaysing. The interview was edited out of Sibrel's "A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Moon" at the request of Fox Television to make the film fit into a one hour time slot.

Mr. Kaysing discusses his first hand account of the incredible atmosphere of engineering ineptitude, on-the-job drunkenness, and endless insurmountable schedule slippages that were rampant in the program, dooming it to failure. "The only way to make it, was to fake it", he said was the underground motto of the staff.

Never before in all of recorded aviation has a flying machine worked on its first attempt, much less the most complicated one ever imagined, landing on another heavenly body on its maiden voyage, and returning roundtrip with a crew that lived to tell, all with 1960's technology. (More computing power today is found in a $10 watch).

According Kaysing, a classified interdepartmental memo rated the odds of a successful and survivable manned lunar landing on its first attempt at one in ten thousand. That is why the returning men of the mission looked so dejected rather than triumphant at their press conference, as they were blackmailed into lying about the alleged greatest accomplishment of mankind, to the detriment of their own souls.
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clappa
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Whenever I see that meme, all I hear is the sound of a circus pinniped honking while it flaps it's flippers hoping to receive it's next treat.

You're a fucking moron.
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Kaysing later admitted that he fabricated the Hoax Theory because he was pissed at the US government over the Vietnam War.

Because you say he did? Please show us the video of Kaysing saying that or gtfo. Even if he did say that, they probably made him an offer he couldn't refuse.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75473435

IOW evidence means what ever you want it to mean.
The lack of evidence means what ever you want it to mean.

How is that not irrational?



They do take care of their own. Grissom would agree if only he could.
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Braindead insinuations are also a rather poor substitute for proper evidence and sound reasoning.
book

Fifty years of nothing.
What a preposterous legacy.

:Nelsonhaha49823:
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wheres proof confession?, i only hear hearsay.
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How can astronaunt Dave, opollo 12 sound of hammering be heard on comms when there is no air to transfer sound on the moon, when on iss you cannot hear power tools going on nasa live feeds.
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No one can prove an equal and opposite force from gas movement due to pressure gradient force. Space travel = fake

Thread: Now that we have realized that rockets don’t work in space, what’s next on the bucket list?
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They’re scared they will cause global warming on the moon
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The famous footprint!
That would only be possible with moisture in the dust, have you ever tried to leave a footprint like that in the dry arid moistureless desert?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77758744


The footprint does look fake.

Of course, they still may have gone, and just used a fake footprint, but ...
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No one can prove to a Flat Earth Tard an equal and opposite force from gas movement due to pressure gradient force. Space travel = fake

Thread: Now that we have realized that rockets don’t work in space, what’s next on the bucket list?
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^^ fixed it for you ^^
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No it was not. 50 years baby!

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Fake!!!!
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The shilly shills HATE when you bump threads like this.

HATE IT!!
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The moon mission was only to perpetuate the "globe" earth lie.


And that's the truth.
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Wow, you people are incredibly stupid.

lmao





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