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Was the moon landing faked? Poll

 
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According Kaysing
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Not all testimony is created equally.

Kaysing later admitted that he fabricated the Hoax Theory because he was pissed at the US government over the Vietnam War.

No amount of unproven claims tops physical evidence anyway.
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Only idiots believe in the 1969-72 Apollo missions. It's really simple.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9233880

Only idiots keep claiming that.
If hoaxies weren't idiots (and actually right) they would have no problem proving their accusation.
So far they have never proven anything.
After fifty years still nothing, only an idiot wouldn't be embarressed about that.

The footage is so fucking hokey they rarely trot it out because a child can see it's 1970s special effects
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9233880

Yet you keep failing at actually proving that it is faked.
"Looks fake to me" coming from some ignorant dimwit on the internet isn't evidence.
It's an ignorance based opinion, and those are useless.
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When did you stop kicking your dog?
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Absolutely No evidence of 1/6th gravity. They were in Earth gravity.
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I’ve always wondered who was panning the camera and following the lander as it departs. Also thought the noise from being blasted off the moon would be audible as the astronauts communicated with HQ.
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I’ve always wondered who was panning the camera and following the lander as it departs. Also thought the noise from being blasted off the moon would be audible as the astronauts communicated with HQ.
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Sways back and forth without directional thrusters. LOL


Gyros?
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Who pointed the camera upwards? They didn't have motion sensing camera equipment back then.

Who retrieved the film from the camera? They didn't have digital video back then.

Where's the crater under the lander? A 10,0000 pounds of thrust is going to create a dust crater under the lander.
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


So, a quick search reveals the lander had navigational gyros, but not stabilizing gyros.


OOOOOOOPS!
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I’ve always wondered who was panning the camera and following the lander as it departs. Also thought the noise from being blasted off the moon would be audible as the astronauts communicated with HQ.
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Duh there was a guy in Houston whose job it was to hit a button to time the camera set to automatically record and pan up. He is a hero as he did it just right somehow. Slide rules are powerful instruments let us not forget.
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Who pointed the camera upwards? They didn't have motion sensing camera equipment back then.

Who retrieved the film from the camera? They didn't have digital video back then.

Where's the crater under the lander? A 10,0000 pounds of thrust is going to create a dust crater under the lander.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76746718


Ha, NASA has an answer you silly billy. See my last post I am not kidding a guy on Earth pressed a button at just the right time to get the shot. He only had one try. He nailed it.

Obviously the video was beamed to earth via the orbiter like any live shots which was totally possible then.

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You can see the footprints of the astronauts from satellite photos. Give it a rest. Geesh.

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What do you have against Cornwall? The fact that it was never occupied by Rome?
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A lot of these questions are easy to answer. Then there are the ones that have no reasonable answer.

You will notice they get ignored by moonophants.
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Moontards!. We ride!. speedbanan
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Kaysing later admitted that he fabricated the Hoax Theory because he was pissed at the US government over the Vietnam War.

Because you say he did? Please show us the video of Kaysing saying that or gtfo. Even if he did say that, they probably made him an offer he couldn't refuse.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75473435

IOW evidence means what ever you want it to mean.
The lack of evidence means what ever you want it to mean.

How is that not irrational?



They do take care of their own. Grissom would agree if only he could.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75473435

Braindead insinuations are also a rather poor substitute for proper evidence and sound reasoning.
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Fifty years of nothing.
What a preposterous legacy.

:Nelsonhaha49823:
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD


What Kaysing said in the video is that Grant's outrage over Vietnam motivated him to spill the beans about the fake moon landings. He then did spill the beans and wrote the book mentioned above. You must not understand that "spill the beans" means to come clean or tell the truth. You need to brush up on your critical thinking skills. Nowhere in the video does he say that We Never Went to the Moon was a hoax. What he said was that he decided to spill the beans on the moon landing hoax. The braindead insinuations are coming from you.
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Moontards!. We ride!. speedbanan
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Lets give credit where credit is due

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China clay, as the name suggests, is a material known as kaolin, which was first used in China more than ten thousand years ago to make fine white porcelain.

Its also really good for diarrhea. And it looks completely otherworldly

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It's an ignorance based opinion, and those are useless.
book
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD

Only dipshits think you actually ever say anything. Please, everyone quit refuting this troll’s insults and blather
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77801262

Coward.

You can shut me up by proving you are right.
I dare you to prove that you are right.
I dare every hoaxie to prove they are right.

Problem seems to be that hoaxies don't understand concepts like evidence, facts, and logic.
book


There's no admission of fraud in that video, just an attribution of interest.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77134005

It is an admission it wasn't about truth finding.

Now, how ab out you address my post on no extended horizons, just a few posts up from your post?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77134005

Why would anybody else care that you didn't get the pictures you wanted?

If YOU claim anything was faked than YOU have the burden to prove so.
This will require POSITIVE evidence.
Not idle speculation on what could have been.
book


book
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD

When did you stop kicking your dog?
 Quoting: MogwaiHunter PM

Why would I kick any dogs?

Kicking hoaxies is much more fun.
If it weren't for the flatties they'd be the most hilarious conspirafantasist on the web.
book


Absolutely No evidence of 1/6th gravity.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77758744

Quite a conclusion after watching a mere few hundred seconds.


book




I’ve always wondered who was panning the camera and following the lander as it departs.
 Quoting: Canadian Coward 77256626

Apparently you didn't wonder hard enough to actually find out.

Search Term: Ed Fendell

Also thought the noise from being blasted off the moon would be audible as the astronauts communicated with HQ.
 Quoting: Canadian Coward 77256626

This is a pressure-fed engine (no pumps) operating in a vacuum (no turbulence, the main source of noise for earth-launched rockets).
The astronauts microphones are voice activated and are inside the bubble helmets.
book


Sways back and forth without directional thrusters. LOL

Gyros?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77134005

Are you claiming that the LM didn't have an RCS?

Holy fuck!
book


Who pointed the camera upwards?
 Quoting: Dutch Coward 76746718

The tele-operator.

They didn't have motion sensing camera equipment back then.
 Quoting: Dutch Coward 76746718

If true total irrelevant.
It was a life-TV broadcast from the surface of the Moon.
IOW, the operator just had to look.

It also helped that they knew in advance where the ship was going.

Who retrieved the film from the camera?
 Quoting: Dutch Coward 76746718

TV-cameras do not use film.


They didn't have digital video back then.
 Quoting: Dutch Coward 76746718

Irrelevant.
It was a life-TV broadcast from the surface of the Moon.

Where's the crater under the lander?
 Quoting: Dutch Coward 76746718

Why would there be a crater?


A 10,0000 pounds of thrust is going to create a dust crater under the lander.
 Quoting: Dutch Coward 76746718

But there wasn't "A 10,0000 pounds of thrust" just before landing.
That would make the thrust much larger than the weight of the craft at that point making it go upwards, not down.
book


Duh there was a guy in Houston whose job it was to hit a button to time the camera set to automatically record and pan up. He is a hero as he did it just right somehow. Slide rules are powerful instruments let us not forget.
 Quoting: MogwaiHunter PM

Ha, NASA has an answer you silly billy. See my last post I am not kidding a guy on Earth pressed a button at just the right time to get the shot. He only had one try. He nailed it.

Obviously the video was beamed to earth via the orbiter like any live shots which was totally possible then.
 Quoting: MogwaiHunter PM

There's so much ignorance and disinfo in your posts you might as well be the posterboy for hoaxism.

How are you ever going to prove that they way it was supposed to have worked didn't work if you are so epically clueless about how it was supposed to have worked in the first place?

The words "chance", "snowflake", and "hell" come to mind.
book

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The word is FUEL CELLS, not batteries. They used their LOX and LH2 for powering the command module.
 Quoting: Agent MIB


WRONG.

Power was provided by two 36-volt silver-zinc potassium hydroxide non-rechargeable batteries with a capacity of 121 A·h each (a total of 242 A·h), yielding a range of 57 miles (92 km).[14] These were used to power the drive and steering motors and also a 36-volt utility outlet mounted on the front of the LRV to power the communications relay unit or the TV camera. LRV batteries and electronics were passively cooled, using change-of-phase wax thermal capacitor packages and reflective, upward-facing radiating surfaces. While driving, radiators were covered with mylar blankets to minimize dust accumulation. When stopped, the astronauts would open the blankets, and manually remove excess dust from the cooling surfaces with hand brushes.
[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
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above BATTERIES powered rover.


WRONG



lunar lander

Power

Instead, the Lunar Lander is powered by solar arrays which are wrapped around the body tube. Once landed, the vehicles axis of symmetry will be almost perpendicular to the direction of the Sun ensuring continuously good illumination of the solar cells as the lander rotates with respect to the Sun (due to the rotation of the Moon).
Batteries are used to bridge short periods without solar power. Solar power is unavailable in LLO when the lander goes into lunar eclipse and on the ground, when mountain peaks at the horizon cover the Sun. Landing operations will also be conducted relying solely on battery power.

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75703785


U SAID,

They used their LOX and LH2 for powering the command module.

IE FLYING THE THING NOT POWERING ON THE FLIPPIN MOON.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75703785

You idiots are arguing which lies are correct.
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There's no admission of fraud in that video, just an attribution of interest.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77134005

It is an admission it wasn't about truth finding.

 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD


BS

Now, how ab out you address my post on no extended horizons, just a few posts up from your post?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77134005

Why would anybody else care that you didn't get the pictures you wanted?

If YOU claim anything was faked than YOU have the burden to prove so.
This will require POSITIVE evidence.
Not idle speculation on what could have been.
book
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD


Has nothing to do with what I wanted, I was a year old. It speaks to the fact that an extended horizon could not be faked, but an artificial close horizon could.




Also thought the noise from being blasted off the moon would be audible as the astronauts communicated with HQ.
 Quoting: Canadian Coward 77256626

This is a pressure-fed engine (no pumps) operating in a vacuum (no turbulence, the main source of noise for earth-launched rockets).
The astronauts microphones are voice activated and are inside the bubble helmets.
book
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD


Irrelevant. The vibration from a rocket engine would have been audable inside the helmet.


Sways back and forth without directional thrusters. LOL

Gyros?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77134005

Are you claiming that the LM didn't have an RCS?

Holy fuck!
book
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No, It's obvious the RCS wasn't being used, otherwise you would see the thrusts. What you actually see is the spacecraft swinging back and forth as if on a wire, without the thrusters being activated.
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It's an ignorance based opinion, and those are useless.
book
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Only dipshits think you actually ever say anything. Please, everyone quit refuting this troll’s insults and blather
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77801262

Coward.

You can shut me up by proving you are right.
I dare you to prove that you are right.
I dare every hoaxie to prove they are right.

Problem seems to be that hoaxies don't understand concepts like evidence, facts, and logic.
book


There's no admission of fraud in that video, just an attribution of interest.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77134005

It is an admission it wasn't about truth finding.

Now, how ab out you address my post on no extended horizons, just a few posts up from your post?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77134005

Why would anybody else care that you didn't get the pictures you wanted?

If YOU claim anything was faked than YOU have the burden to prove so.
This will require POSITIVE evidence.
Not idle speculation on what could have been.
book


book
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD

When did you stop kicking your dog?
 Quoting: MogwaiHunter PM

Why would I kick any dogs?

Kicking hoaxies is much more fun.
If it weren't for the flatties they'd be the most hilarious conspirafantasist on the web.
book


Absolutely No evidence of 1/6th gravity.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77758744

Quite a conclusion after watching a mere few hundred seconds.


book




I’ve always wondered who was panning the camera and following the lander as it departs.
 Quoting: Canadian Coward 77256626

Apparently you didn't wonder hard enough to actually find out.

Search Term: Ed Fendell

Also thought the noise from being blasted off the moon would be audible as the astronauts communicated with HQ.
 Quoting: Canadian Coward 77256626

This is a pressure-fed engine (no pumps) operating in a vacuum (no turbulence, the main source of noise for earth-launched rockets).
The astronauts microphones are voice activated and are inside the bubble helmets.
book


Sways back and forth without directional thrusters. LOL

Gyros?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77134005

Are you claiming that the LM didn't have an RCS?

Holy fuck!
book


Who pointed the camera upwards?
 Quoting: Dutch Coward 76746718

The tele-operator.

They didn't have motion sensing camera equipment back then.
 Quoting: Dutch Coward 76746718

If true total irrelevant.
It was a life-TV broadcast from the surface of the Moon.
IOW, the operator just had to look.

It also helped that they knew in advance where the ship was going.

Who retrieved the film from the camera?
 Quoting: Dutch Coward 76746718

TV-cameras do not use film.


They didn't have digital video back then.
 Quoting: Dutch Coward 76746718

Irrelevant.
It was a life-TV broadcast from the surface of the Moon.

Where's the crater under the lander?
 Quoting: Dutch Coward 76746718

Why would there be a crater?


A 10,0000 pounds of thrust is going to create a dust crater under the lander.
 Quoting: Dutch Coward 76746718

But there wasn't "A 10,0000 pounds of thrust" just before landing.
That would make the thrust much larger than the weight of the craft at that point making it go upwards, not down.
book


Duh there was a guy in Houston whose job it was to hit a button to time the camera set to automatically record and pan up. He is a hero as he did it just right somehow. Slide rules are powerful instruments let us not forget.
 Quoting: MogwaiHunter PM

Ha, NASA has an answer you silly billy. See my last post I am not kidding a guy on Earth pressed a button at just the right time to get the shot. He only had one try. He nailed it.

Obviously the video was beamed to earth via the orbiter like any live shots which was totally possible then.
 Quoting: MogwaiHunter PM

There's so much ignorance and disinfo in your posts you might as well be the posterboy for hoaxism.

How are you ever going to prove that they way it was supposed to have worked didn't work if you are so epically clueless about how it was supposed to have worked in the first place?

The words "chance", "snowflake", and "hell" come to mind.
book
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD

All your evidence facts and logic are made up
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If we did not go the USSR would have had a field day proving we lied.

case closed.

next.
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Joint secret op to 'tick it off the list' so the world's populace would lose interest in going to the moon, because if they knew the real truth about the moon, everything we know about everything would be turned upside down.
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If people knew there was a ceiling they would spend every waking moment worrying about being crushed alive.
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Rocket engines cannot work in a vacuum. They need air for resistance.
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Wrong.

Newton's Third Law of motion.

Go back to fourth grade and try to pay attention this time.
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In a vacuum their is no air, this no equal and opposite reaction. Duh.
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Public Space Program : NASA landed on the moon in 1969. The Secret Space Program arrived in the 1950s.
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Cornwall needs the bay dredged again. I wonder if they could attract enough "how the moon landing was faked" tourism to pay for the dredging if they revealed the truth?
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Or, how about BATTERIES.

We all remember battery technology was terrible back then. How did the ROVER and LUNAR MODULE run on BATTERIES in sub-zero temperatures?

The Batteries would be responsible to produce HEAT inside the LUNAR MODULE which would drain them in a couple minutes; BUT, somehow, they kept everyone warm and the ROVER was able to travel many, many miles on batteries that were frozen on the Moon.
What Gives?
 Quoting: morcomanifes


Hmm wondered about those batteries, they must have had hundreds of them, to run all the cooling, environmental setup, lights etc, pumps , communications, and they must have weighed a ton cause there was no lithium batts in 1969.
still im no fang dangle nasa scientist.

pope2
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The word is FUEL CELLS, not batteries. They used their LOX and LH2 for powering the command module.
 Quoting: Agent MIB


WRONG.

Power was provided by two 36-volt silver-zinc potassium hydroxide non-rechargeable batteries with a capacity of 121 A·h each (a total of 242 A·h), yielding a range of 57 miles (92 km).[14] These were used to power the drive and steering motors and also a 36-volt utility outlet mounted on the front of the LRV to power the communications relay unit or the TV camera. LRV batteries and electronics were passively cooled, using change-of-phase wax thermal capacitor packages and reflective, upward-facing radiating surfaces. While driving, radiators were covered with mylar blankets to minimize dust accumulation. When stopped, the astronauts would open the blankets, and manually remove excess dust from the cooling surfaces with hand brushes.
[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
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Wrong. I said the COMMAND MODULE was powered by LOX and LH2. I didn't mention the Lunar Excursion Module (LEM).

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You are born with the truth, then taught a lie.
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Take a Geiger counter with you next time you fly on a commercial aircraft and time distended and shielding becomes apparent regarding solar radiation
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Yea!!
Naah naaah nah naaah naaah.

And flip off the TSA too, as you go willy nillie through the gates with your....Geiger Counter.
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


So, a quick search reveals the lander had navigational gyros, but not stabilizing gyros.


OOOOOOOPS!
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Why would they need stabilizing gyros? You are a fail at physics. They used maneuvering thrusters and vectored thrust from main engine with gimbals.
You are born with the truth, then taught a lie.
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Before I vote answer me this. How did the tin cans go through the Van Allen radiation belt when we cannot do that today?
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If they are launched from Baffin Island they could miss that could they not?? NASA works in the summer at sea level. -50 and dry air might make magnets the 'reusable device'.
Weird shit starts to happen at -200 so a moon base training and R&D is possible in their spare time.
Almost making Canada a leader in 'green energy'. (green being like this) I love the one at about 8 seconds.

Spoiler: the mining missions to moons around Jupiter and Saturn will be in Canada's Hudson bay where it looks like the whole Bay was by impact but the smaller one on the Quebec side would be one of the best spots to find primordial ooze. The one Russia owns is where the Atlantic Rift ends. All for a measly $666,000T

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Absolutely No evidence of 1/6th gravity. They were in Earth gravity.
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Gravity.
Another lie.
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In one-sixth gravity everything would weigh one-sixth, or 16.7 percent, of its Earth weight. A 180-pound man would weigh a mere 30 pounds. Writers were speculating on the athletic abilities of men on the Moon long before the space program and Apollo. They based their calculations on one-sixth gravity. The public was anticipating some of these spectacular athletic feats when astronauts explored the Moon, but none were ever performed. The reader may remember the televised pictures of astronauts moving around on the Moon's surface. If so, do you recall any extraordinary feats. In actuality, there were none.

In the November 1967 issue of Science Digest, an article appeared by James R. Berry entitled, "How to Walk on the Moon."1 In it, Berry predicted that men would be able to make 14-foot slow-motion leaps, perform backflips and other gymnastics like professionals, and be able to easily move up ladders and poles with their arms.
Another prediction was given in 1969 by the Writers of U.S. News & World Report in U.S. on the Moon:
With gravity on the moon only one-sixth as strong as it is on earth, a home-run hitter in a lunar baseball game could drive a ball well over half a mile. A golfer's drive from the tee would sail clear over the horizon.

The height an object will rise in a gravitational field depends on its initial velocity. If an object had the same initial velocity in one-sixth gravity as it had on Earth, it would rise six times as high. If the initial velocity of the object were doubled over its Earth velocity, it would rise 24 times as high, and if tripled, it would rise 54 times the Earth height.
A man jumps vertically by bending his kness and then flexing his thigh muscles to full extension. This propels him off the ground with a given initial velocity. If an astronaut were to jump vertically in one-sixth gravity with the same effort expended on Earth, the initial velocity would be greater than on Earth. Therefore, the astronaut would go more than six times higher.

Did we see anything like that???? no

The Rover would have been completely unstable, it would have been flying at the slightest bump, the rooster tail would have been absolutely massive..

No everything we saw was Earth gravity, the astronots were jumping mere inches, the film speed was slightly altered, every film producer knows that trick though.
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