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A psychiatrist says that I am mentally ill but I am not exactly certain what he means. Can somebody explain this.
I cross-examined the man in court and this was our exchange:

___________________________________________


Me: So do you understand the point I am trying to make, Doctor, as far as, is it possible that you'd have a different opinion if you had more documentation?

Psychiatrist: I don't know, it would depend on the documentation.

Me: So is it possible then, If - if you had more...

Psychiatrist: Frankly anything...

Me: You'd change your opinion.

Psychiatrist: Anything is possible, but at the moment on the basis of the documentation I had, but mostly upon my examination, I'm pretty - I feel confident in my opinion.

Me: Is it also not possible, Doctor, given the fact that expert witnesses are recruited by trial attorneys, that some are tempted to "sell themselves" rather than to provide an accurate diagnosis of the patient?

Psychiatrist: If you are implying in any way, shape or form that I am one of those, I take great exception to that, and I would fight you tooth and nail that I fit into that...

Me: Well then I...

Psychiatrist: ...while I cannot speak and will not speak or offer an opinion about the motives of others, but I say unequivocally, that is not me.

Me: All right Doctor, that's fine, but I mean, listening to your testimony I think you had a little bit of loose talk there when you say, I don't know if I'm a psychotic or a paranoid schizophrenic, which is it?

Psychiatrist: I will reiterate what I said, that was part of my differential diagnosis. I am not certain at this point whether it is one or the other, but that is irrelevant.


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Can somebody explain that because his testimony does not make any sense to me. His diagnosis is irrelevant? I certainly agree with that, but then why does this man have a license to practice psychiatry?
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Anybody understand this guy?
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I am not trying to be funny, that is an actual court transcript, word for word. Aside from my name and that of the Doctor, it is reprinted without any changes.
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The way that I understand it best is that paranoid schizophrenia is a condition in which the psychiatrist insists that everything he does is an unqualified success and psychosis is the verification process.
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Doc is right. You are nutty as a fruitcake.
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I am not trying to be funny, that is an actual court transcript, word for word. Aside from my name and that of the Doctor, it is reprinted without any changes.
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You should have went for the insanity plea!
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I cross-examined the man in court and this was our exchange:

___________________________________________


Me: So do you understand the point I am trying to make, Doctor, as far as, is it possible that you'd have a different opinion if you had more documentation?

Psychiatrist: I don't know, it would depend on the documentation.

Me: So is it possible then, If - if you had more...

Psychiatrist: Frankly anything...

Me: You'd change your opinion.

Psychiatrist: Anything is possible, but at the moment on the basis of the documentation I had, but mostly upon my examination, I'm pretty - I feel confident in my opinion.

Me: Is it also not possible, Doctor, given the fact that expert witnesses are recruited by trial attorneys, that some are tempted to "sell themselves" rather than to provide an accurate diagnosis of the patient?

Psychiatrist: If you are implying in any way, shape or form that I am one of those, I take great exception to that, and I would fight you tooth and nail that I fit into that...

Me: Well then I...

Psychiatrist: ...while I cannot speak and will not speak or offer an opinion about the motives of others, but I say unequivocally, that is not me.

Me: All right Doctor, that's fine, but I mean, listening to your testimony I think you had a little bit of loose talk there when you say, I don't know if I'm a psychotic or a paranoid schizophrenic, which is it?

Psychiatrist: I will reiterate what I said, that was part of my differential diagnosis. I am not certain at this point whether it is one or the other, but that is irrelevant.


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Can somebody explain that because his testimony does not make any sense to me. His diagnosis is irrelevant? I certainly agree with that, but then why does this man have a license to practice psychiatry?
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Whats up with you... this is the second attention seeking thread about Psychiatry you have started today....

Last one was a similar format where you wrote a letter and asked for people to comment on it.

This is just another troll thread where you are seeking attention...Pure and simple
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The way that I understand it best is that paranoid schizophrenia is a condition in which the psychiatrist insists that everything he does is an unqualified success and psychosis is the verification process.
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He’s right, it really doesn’t matter what you call it or how you classify it, either way, you’re crazy.
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Lovey, I think you've come to the wrong place to get a straight answer. Perhaps someone who knows will see this thread, but those kind of people who would have an answer for you aren't most likely to visit GLP.

You may get lucky, but you're going to have to put up with a lot of heckling.....hugs
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I cross-examined the man in court and this was our exchange:

___________________________________________


Me: So do you understand the point I am trying to make, Doctor, as far as, is it possible that you'd have a different opinion if you had more documentation?

Psychiatrist: I don't know, it would depend on the documentation.

Me: So is it possible then, If - if you had more...

Psychiatrist: Frankly anything...

Me: You'd change your opinion.

Psychiatrist: Anything is possible, but at the moment on the basis of the documentation I had, but mostly upon my examination, I'm pretty - I feel confident in my opinion.

Me: Is it also not possible, Doctor, given the fact that expert witnesses are recruited by trial attorneys, that some are tempted to "sell themselves" rather than to provide an accurate diagnosis of the patient?

Psychiatrist: If you are implying in any way, shape or form that I am one of those, I take great exception to that, and I would fight you tooth and nail that I fit into that...

Me: Well then I...

Psychiatrist: ...while I cannot speak and will not speak or offer an opinion about the motives of others, but I say unequivocally, that is not me.

Me: All right Doctor, that's fine, but I mean, listening to your testimony I think you had a little bit of loose talk there when you say, I don't know if I'm a psychotic or a paranoid schizophrenic, which is it?

Psychiatrist: I will reiterate what I said, that was part of my differential diagnosis. I am not certain at this point whether it is one or the other, but that is irrelevant.


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Can somebody explain that because his testimony does not make any sense to me. His diagnosis is irrelevant? I certainly agree with that, but then why does this man have a license to practice psychiatry?
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So psychotic is a state that people get into it is not a mental illness in and of itself. People under certain circumstances can exhibit psychotic symptoms. It is like mania or lethargy or a liable mood. As far as Paranoid Schizophrenia that one is a bit harder to diagnose. Paranoia is not specific to schizophrenia but many disorders. It took over 20 years for me to get an accurate diagnosis. Do you hear voices? See things not there? Are your fears based in reality or are they part of delusional thinking? What kind of testing was done? It could be everything from Asperger's to anxiety to schizotypal. What about drug use? What meds do they have you on? I would go to the nearest mental health provider and get a fresh diagnosis.
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The way that I understand it best is that paranoid schizophrenia is a condition in which the psychiatrist insists that everything he does is an unqualified success and psychosis is the verification process.
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He’s right, it really doesn’t matter what you call it or how you classify it, either way, you’re crazy.
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Carl Jung said it's not what you say that counts. It's what you do.

Talk is cheap -try proving what you say -now that would be a challenge.
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I cross-examined the man in court and this was our exchange:

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Blah Blah Blah....fucking Blah Blah Blah...
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So irrespective of what the Psychiatrist said.....

What did the judge say and what was the outcome??

I get from this pile of rubbish you are talking about... You consider to be a legal mind also......
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Lovey, I think you've come to the wrong place to get a straight answer. Perhaps someone who knows will see this thread, but those kind of people who would have an answer for you aren't most likely to visit GLP.

You may get lucky, but you're going to have to put up with a lot of heckling.....hugs
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Lovey, I think you've come to the wrong place to get a straight answer. Perhaps someone who knows will see this thread, but those kind of people who would have an answer for you aren't most likely to visit GLP.

You may get lucky, but you're going to have to put up with a lot of heckling.....hugs
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I have faith in GLP -it has never let me down.
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as I said...
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Lovey, I think you've come to the wrong place to get a straight answer. Perhaps someone who knows will see this thread, but those kind of people who would have an answer for you aren't most likely to visit GLP.

You may get lucky, but you're going to have to put up with a lot of heckling.....hugs
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Like Desertwolf suggested, you'd be best getting a legitimate second opinion. Your mental health is nothing to mess around with.
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OP you may need a 'Frontier Psychiatrist'.


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OP you may need a 'Frontier Psychiatrist'.


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Thats funny........ Im going to keep this link....
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I cross-examined the man in court and this was our exchange:

___________________________________________


Me: So do you understand the point I am trying to make, Doctor, as far as, is it possible that you'd have a different opinion if you had more documentation?

Psychiatrist: I don't know, it would depend on the documentation.

Me: So is it possible then, If - if you had more...

Psychiatrist: Frankly anything...

Me: You'd change your opinion.

Psychiatrist: Anything is possible, but at the moment on the basis of the documentation I had, but mostly upon my examination, I'm pretty - I feel confident in my opinion.

Me: Is it also not possible, Doctor, given the fact that expert witnesses are recruited by trial attorneys, that some are tempted to "sell themselves" rather than to provide an accurate diagnosis of the patient?

Psychiatrist: If you are implying in any way, shape or form that I am one of those, I take great exception to that, and I would fight you tooth and nail that I fit into that...

Me: Well then I...

Psychiatrist: ...while I cannot speak and will not speak or offer an opinion about the motives of others, but I say unequivocally, that is not me.

Me: All right Doctor, that's fine, but I mean, listening to your testimony I think you had a little bit of loose talk there when you say, I don't know if I'm a psychotic or a paranoid schizophrenic, which is it?

Psychiatrist: I will reiterate what I said, that was part of my differential diagnosis. I am not certain at this point whether it is one or the other, but that is irrelevant.


___________________________

Can somebody explain that because his testimony does not make any sense to me. His diagnosis is irrelevant? I certainly agree with that, but then why does this man have a license to practice psychiatry?
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OP.... Have you heard of "Drama Addiction" ??
IF YOU HAVE A FEVER DO NOT LOWER IT WITH MEDS.... A FEVER IS AN IMMUNE SYSTEM RESPONSE TO A PATHOGEN (VIRUS, BACTERIA ETC..) IT MEANS YOUR IMMUNE SYSTEM IS WORKING PROPERLY....DONT USE DRUGS TO LOWER YOUR TEMP.
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Why did you have to go to court over this?
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I cross-examined the man in court and this was our exchange:

___________________________________________


Me: So do you understand the point I am trying to make, Doctor, as far as, is it possible that you'd have a different opinion if you had more documentation?

Psychiatrist: I don't know, it would depend on the documentation.

Me: So is it possible then, If - if you had more...

Psychiatrist: Frankly anything...

Me: You'd change your opinion.

Psychiatrist: Anything is possible, but at the moment on the basis of the documentation I had, but mostly upon my examination, I'm pretty - I feel confident in my opinion.

Me: Is it also not possible, Doctor, given the fact that expert witnesses are recruited by trial attorneys, that some are tempted to "sell themselves" rather than to provide an accurate diagnosis of the patient?

Psychiatrist: If you are implying in any way, shape or form that I am one of those, I take great exception to that, and I would fight you tooth and nail that I fit into that...

Me: Well then I...

Psychiatrist: ...while I cannot speak and will not speak or offer an opinion about the motives of others, but I say unequivocally, that is not me.

Me: All right Doctor, that's fine, but I mean, listening to your testimony I think you had a little bit of loose talk there when you say, I don't know if I'm a psychotic or a paranoid schizophrenic, which is it?

Psychiatrist: I will reiterate what I said, that was part of my differential diagnosis. I am not certain at this point whether it is one or the other, but that is irrelevant.


___________________________

Can somebody explain that because his testimony does not make any sense to me. His diagnosis is irrelevant? I certainly agree with that, but then why does this man have a license to practice psychiatry?
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His differential diagnosis means it was hard for him to differentiate between psychotic and paranoid schizophrenia because you appear to have symptoms of both to him

He is saying it’s irrelevant because either diagnosis would have the same outcome for you
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Thread: Psychiatrist or Psychologist, the craziest person in the room is them.
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I cross-examined the man in court and this was our exchange:

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Blah Blah Blah....fucking Blah Blah Blah...
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So irrespective of what the Psychiatrist said.....

What did the judge say and what was the outcome??

I get from this pile of rubbish you are talking about... You consider to be a legal mind also......
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Yes indeed, I am obviously self-represented.

The judge obviously sided with the psychiatrist but he was so insecure he even altered the court transcript to create the impression that I am a lunatic.

For example, at the end of my cross-examination, the judge turned to me and asked as follows; "How soon can you be ready for trial?" He then asked the attorney the same question.

I felt 7 feet tall when he addressed me first because it essentially demonstrated that I was in command but that was removed from the transcript.

Our clown judges dot every "I" and cross every "t" to create the impression that they are infallible -so I am supposed to be the psychotic:

laugh

You have to laugh to maintain your sanity these days.
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OP... Here is a little light reading for you.....

I suggest you have a look... see if anything resonates with you.

[link to www.psychologytoday.com (secure)]
IF YOU HAVE A FEVER DO NOT LOWER IT WITH MEDS.... A FEVER IS AN IMMUNE SYSTEM RESPONSE TO A PATHOGEN (VIRUS, BACTERIA ETC..) IT MEANS YOUR IMMUNE SYSTEM IS WORKING PROPERLY....DONT USE DRUGS TO LOWER YOUR TEMP.
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I thought Russell Williams was already convicted?

Sorry OP I poking fun.

It sounds like the good doctor has made up his mind that there's something wrong, to him exactly what takes a back seat.

It's like a car that doesn't run. It has 4 flat tires, no gas and the engine is seized, the point is it don't move, why is important but it could be any number of things.

That's how I read it/him.

But I could be swayed with more documentation.
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Why did you have to go to court over this?
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Personal injury case -I am the accident victim and the defendant used the claim that I am a psychotic to derail a jury trial.

Guess they feared my cross-examination tactics.

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OP... Here is a little light reading for you.....

I suggest you have a look... see if anything resonates with you.

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No it doesn't. I am anything but.





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