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My wife set up two Beehives yesterday

 
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Re: My wife set up two Beehives yesterday
The queens this year are somehow bred to be more mite resistant.

When you buy a small colony it is referred to as a nucleus or nuke.

Its always relaxing to get two nukes in the backyard.
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That's what I have. It sure helps the pollination!
I lost my apathy.
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Re: My wife set up two Beehives yesterday
Join your local county beekeeper's association as a newbie- wanna-be. Most of the good ones have a mentorship program where an experienced beek will mentor you for a year in exchange for you helping with all the labor on their hives. Try to find one with lots of hives who could use an extra hand.

Then after you have helped them harvest their spring honey flow and bottle it up, don't ask for honey, ask them if they will split two of their hives in early-mid august and give you a couple of starts so you will have time to get them fed up and grown to a viable overwintering size before cold weather hits. This is why you find a mentor with lots of hives. If someone only has 3-4 hives, they aren't going to give you 2 splits, and you need at least 2 in case one doesn't make it through the winter, which is becoming increasingly common (unfortunately).

Note: You will have to regularly feed these starter hives ALL through the fall and winter, because they wont have had time to lay in enough supplies and/or there won't be anything blooming for them to eat on. Some places have a smaller fall blooming period honey flow, but it wont be enough to take them through the winter. And if it gets real cold where you live for a long, long winter, you will need to insulate the hives and give them a candy board inside the top of the feeder, instead of sugar syrup, which they won't be able to get to outside the hive. They can't break cluster to go outside in the cold to try to forage and will starve to death.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77656173


This is good advice. The hives are having problems everywhere and that's why the price is so high. It was apparently an exceptionally bad year this year.

Apparently our hive was full of comb and no honey and no bees so they must have needed additional feeding although there was tons of honey before fall.

Poor bees, now I feel guilty for not feeding them.

:(
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Re: My wife set up two Beehives yesterday
Damn

Embassy under attack in Iraq

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Re: My wife set up two Beehives yesterday
I buy one pound of raw

Its 9 bucks

Ain't cheap but worth it

Miracle healer

Serious about that
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Damn

Embassy under attack in Iraq

Idol1
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75952843


Speaking of nukes.

; (
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Damn

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Idol1
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75952843


Speaking of nukes.

; (
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Better get your hives set up quickly.
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Re: My wife set up two Beehives yesterday
Apparently our hive was full of comb and no honey and no bees so they must have needed additional feeding although there was tons of honey before fall.

Poor bees, now I feel guilty for not feeding them.

:(
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76451694


Could have been something else. For instance if they didn't have enough room and swarmed in the fall, that would have been bad news for that hive. Or mites, or if you live somewhere that gets early fall hurricane flooding action, like we did last year, the govt sometimes does mass spraying for mosquitoes and if you haven't registered you hive location with the local State Dept of Ag's no spraying program, then they might have been poisoned. Even if you don't get hurricanes/flooding, register anyway if you live close (like within 2 miles) to agricultural zones.

And you can't just assume there is enough honey for them to make it through the winter. You have to check on them periodically, but don't open the hive, even for a minute, unless it is at least in the high 50's temp-wise. The other way to check is weight. If you try to lift up back of the hive off the hive stand and it is not heavy, you need to feed those bees ASAP.

Also, now that you have an empty hive with lots of drawn comb, first check to see if the wax moths have ruined it all yet, and if not, bait that thing and see if you can attract a swarm to come take up residence! A tiny little bit of lemongrass oil on a cotton ball, placed in the back of the hive will draw them, if there are any scouts in the area looking for a new home. Refresh it every week.
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Re: My wife set up two Beehives yesterday
Apparently our hive was full of comb and no honey and no bees so they must have needed additional feeding although there was tons of honey before fall.

Poor bees, now I feel guilty for not feeding them.

:(
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76451694


Could have been something else. For instance if they didn't have enough room and swarmed in the fall, that would have been bad news for that hive. Or mites, or if you live somewhere that gets early fall hurricane flooding action, like we did last year, the govt sometimes does mass spraying for mosquitoes and if you haven't registered you hive location with the local State Dept of Ag's no spraying program, then they might have been poisoned. Even if you don't get hurricanes/flooding, register anyway if you live close (like within 2 miles) to agricultural zones.

And you can't just assume there is enough honey for them to make it through the winter. You have to check on them periodically, but don't open the hive, even for a minute, unless it is at least in the high 50's temp-wise. The other way to check is weight. If you try to lift up back of the hive off the hive stand and it is not heavy, you need to feed those bees ASAP.

Also, now that you have an empty hive with lots of drawn comb, first check to see if the wax moths have ruined it all yet, and if not, bait that thing and see if you can attract a swarm to come take up residence! A tiny little bit of lemongrass oil on a cotton ball, placed in the back of the hive will draw them, if there are any scouts in the area looking for a new home. Refresh it every week.
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Cool! How interesting.

Thanks. :)
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Re: My wife set up two Beehives yesterday
Bees do move around and set up new hives.

If a group of bees is SWARMING out on a tree limb that could be free bees for you.

Get a hive ready to go and get on the local list for a swarm.

Squared away local beekeepers could come by and solve this problem.
To your benefit.
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Re: My wife set up two Beehives yesterday
Rhododendron is listed as a poisonous plant.

[link to csuvth.colostate.edu (secure)]

Somehow their slightly poisonous flower helps produce that Hallucinogenic honey.

Do a search you can buy it.

Very pricey.

Not stocked by amazon.
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Re: My wife set up two Beehives yesterday
What did it cost to set up , hope you don't get stung by your credit card company
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Beehives
Queen barriers to keep the queen in a specific area of the hive
Bee suit
Bee proof gloves
Bee waterer to feed sugar water
If you make your own hives you could get started for a couple hundred.

However based on that higher nuke price mentioned not sure about all areas.

There are on-going expenses like having to re-queen.

Then people still have frustrating die offs and bees leaving for unknown reasons.
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Re: My wife set up two Beehives yesterday
Bees do move around and set up new hives.

If a group of bees is SWARMING out on a tree limb that could be free bees for you.

Get a hive ready to go and get on the local list for a swarm.

Squared away local beekeepers could come by and solve this problem.
To your benefit.
 Quoting: BilloutWest


True story...My neighbor raises bees and the bees sometimes, set up shop on my property in the wrong places, then I have to hire a professional beekeeper to remove them...He takes them home with him and is very cheap if they are honeybees. My neighbor has several hives and gets a discount on his property taxes for raising them.
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Re: My wife set up two Beehives yesterday
My nephew had several hives, for around 5 years. This year the bees swarmed and left for parts unknown. They did leave behind a bunch of real nice honey for us though.
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When the bees all leave at the same time, it's not a swarm. It's absconding. A swarm leaves half the colony behind. Most bees that abscond do so because they are infected with varroa mites. If the mite infection gets so bad they can't live with it, they leave. I had two colonies abscond last fall when the mites got out of control. The two hives, with no bees to consume honey, left me over a hundred and sixty pounds of honey. The hives are in an orchard in the Nebraska panhandle, and honey is amazing. It cost me about $225 to replace the bees, so I will be a lot more proactive with mites from now on.
Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst.
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Re: My wife set up two Beehives yesterday
Bees do move around and set up new hives.

If a group of bees is SWARMING out on a tree limb that could be free bees for you.

Get a hive ready to go and get on the local list for a swarm.

Squared away local beekeepers could come by and solve this problem.
To your benefit.
 Quoting: BilloutWest


True story...My neighbor raises bees and the bees sometimes, set up shop on my property in the wrong places, then I have to hire a professional beekeeper to remove them...He takes them home with him and is very cheap if they are honeybees. My neighbor has several hives and gets a discount on his property taxes for raising them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77403617


Most of these people that charge you to come out and remove a swarm, take the swarm home and sell it to beekeepers. That swarm they charged you to remove is wort about a hundred and fifty bucks. If you know a beekeeper, most of them will come get the bees for nothing. They set up a new hive, and don't have to buy the bees. It's a win, win.
Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst.
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Re: My wife set up two Beehives yesterday
$400 per nuke.

It's getting crazy out there.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77003230


My wife paid $140 per nuke.
Included a marked Queen with each.
They were four frames / nuke.

They came in these professional cardboard boxes that were easy to transport and move into our hives.
 Quoting: BilloutWest


Keep us posted
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75952843


We are in a suburban setting.

We have to give up a part of our backyard during warmer parts of the day for bee activity.

We do not use any chemical pesticides nor herbicides.

Monsanto is a curse word around these parts.
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Colorado springs colorado? off vindicator? hey neighbor!
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Re: My wife set up two Beehives yesterday
Bees do move around and set up new hives.

If a group of bees is SWARMING out on a tree limb that could be free bees for you.

Get a hive ready to go and get on the local list for a swarm.

Squared away local beekeepers could come by and solve this problem.
To your benefit.
 Quoting: BilloutWest


True story...My neighbor raises bees and the bees sometimes, set up shop on my property in the wrong places, then I have to hire a professional beekeeper to remove them...He takes them home with him and is very cheap if they are honeybees. My neighbor has several hives and gets a discount on his property taxes for raising them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77403617


Most of these people that charge you to come out and remove a swarm, take the swarm home and sell it to beekeepers. That swarm they charged you to remove is wort about a hundred and fifty bucks. If you know a beekeeper, most of them will come get the bees for nothing. They set up a new hive, and don't have to buy the bees. It's a win, win.
 Quoting: Epic Beard Guy


I will keep that in mind, next time. I did not know they are worth that much. I think he charges like $30-35 dollars. His father used to do it, but he died.
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Re: My wife set up two Beehives yesterday
There is a lot of talk about people who lost a hive to mites.

We will be placing sheets, of (MAQS) inside each hive in addition to having mite resistant queens.

This is an on-going battle
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I had two hives swarm today,managed to capture one but the other one took off before I could locate a ladder long enough to reach it.redface
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Re: My wife set up two Beehives yesterday
Very cool! Did you guys go to Apiary classes?

I've always wanted to keep bees but never have and now I can't. I have a great relationship with them too and can walk through swarms as friends.

I may have someone else set up a few hives in exchange for free honey.
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Good stuff OP!

Gotta love and protect the bees!

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So coolpigchef
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As for the mite problem, i finally tried the oxalic acid fumigation last year & it works great. I borrowed the equipment from my local bee club because i dont have enough hives to warrant buying it. Prior to thati had been using the liquid oxalic drench method, and it is way more messy work.
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Re: My wife set up two Beehives yesterday
I had two hives swarm today,managed to capture one but the other one took off before I could locate a ladder long enough to reach it.redface
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Make sure you get the queen.
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Re: My wife set up two Beehives yesterday
The bees do a hive clean up.

Somebody gets assigned to take dead bees out to the entrance area.

Then they are removed completely.

How the bees determine these reassignments I have no idea.

Today was warm and the bees were super busy.

My wife has one super where a cover can be removed so that you can look through plexiglass directly into the hive working on frames for new bees and later honey.

She got to show off her bees again today.

With caution this is neat to do for kids.
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Re: My wife set up two Beehives yesterday
Top bar hives or some other type? Who doesn't love bees!
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Bees hate top bar hives. For pretentious hippies and noobs only.
Same with flow hive.
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Re: My wife set up two Beehives yesterday
It is relaxing to sit about 25 feet away and watch the bees.

Just a comfortable addition to the back yard.
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Re: My wife set up two Beehives yesterday
My wife ordered more frames.

Last Edited by BilloutWest on 06/01/2019 05:22 PM
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Question. If I set up a small hive and my neighbor gets stung, am I liable? Not kidding, serious question. HOAs are a bitch.
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A couple nukes in the backyard made me think of Fallout 76.
Apparently I have been playing way too much.
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Question. If I set up a small hive and my neighbor gets stung, am I liable? Not kidding, serious question. HOAs are a bitch.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75880603


Bees go out up to 3 miles for pollen.

To prove where the bee came from would take a carcass of the stinging bee and a DNA comparison with your hive queen etc.





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