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Not Ezekiel 36:26-27 Born-Again? St. John Witnesses It's YOU Who Is anti-Christ!

 
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Not Ezekiel 36:26-27 Born-Again? St. John Witnesses It's YOU Who Is anti-Christ!
First, get this straight...
There is no one person who is "the anti-Christ".
Scripture cites satan's man who comes to the world stage as "the man-of-sin".

But St. John Tells us who is anti-Christ... In 1st John Epistle ch 2:
18. Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.


19. They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.


20. But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things.


21. I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth.
22. Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
23. Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
24. Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father.
25. And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life.
26. These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.

27. But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.


The concise Witness of The Born-Again Life is here, in Ezekiel ch 36...
26. A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
27. And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.


Claim Christ, do you?
Just unable, unwilling to Come Unto The Father and give HIM all you are and all you ever will be?

Then... You are one who Did Not Continue With Us. Those John is writing to are Born-Agains who "Have An Unction From The Holy One and Know all things".

Not of us...
Not KNOWN By The Lord Jesus or HIS Father... Not Born-Again...


Probably Never Heard in your church or denomination that Coming Unto The Father is what Christianity IS ALL About.

Well, you're hearing it now!
"Marvel not that I Say unto you; Ye MUST Be Born-Again!" John 3:7 "...No man Cometh Unto The Father but BY Me!" John 14:6


It's ALL There in The Scriptures... Yet, until you Trust God Fully and Give HIM Your All, there's no way to KNOW...


The WAY Unto The Father is ALL About Heart; your heart!

If Father Put Knowledge Of WHO Jesus IS on your heart, then HE Called You Unto HIM. Jesus Witnesses this in Matt 16:13-20...

There's nothing to figure out or Knowledge arrived at from "study"... You manifest your heart Unto The Father by Taking Action... Giving HIM Your All and accepting/seeking HIS Will from then on.

Not on your heart to accept this as True?


Well, soon enough you and every other human will KNOW. God's 3 Angels of Revelation 14:7-9 each make Huge Announcements to every living person, and probably even the dead...

If ya Claim HIM and Claim To Love HIM; then it's Time To Take Action and Prove Your Love...

Through our surrender of self Unto The Father, we are Made Partakers In HIS Holiness and HIS Victory! Dying unto self is The Way into Life Everlasting With The Father and HIS Son. Jesus Witnesses The Born-Again Life in John ch 17...

If you can't read John 17 and see your life described there, you aren't HIS...


In these Final Moments, The Way Unto The Father still remains open. Once Angel 1 Gives Rev 14:7 to all, The Way Unto Father-God will have closed.


Matt 22:1-14 is Jesus' Whole Enchilada Witness about Christianity, God's Plan... In verse 14, HE Says: "For many were Called, but few are Chosen!"

The few that are "Chosen" were those who Chose-Elected to Trust God Fully and Took Action giving HIM their lives to use and do with as HE Sees Fit... These are The Very Elect, Ezekiel 36 Born-Agains...

If you would BE HIS; Now Is The Time To Tell HIM So...


Maranatha!!!

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Paul/Saul was the antichrist, the prince of this world coming Jesus was warning his disciples from.
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Paul/Saul was the antichrist, the prince of this world coming Jesus was warning his disciples from.
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drama are you saying the bible is wrong???
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Paul/Saul was the antichrist, the prince of this world coming Jesus was warning his disciples from.
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drama are you saying the bible is wrong???
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How so? All got fulfilled as prophesied by Jesus in the 1st century.
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Paul/Saul was the antichrist, the prince of this world coming Jesus was warning his disciples from.
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Get Born-Again and see if you can't recognize Paul as your brother in Christ...

Nothing more certain to prove one's alienation from God than to throw shit at St. Paul...

Of course, he has one for you and all the other Laodiceans who won't Come Unto The Father... From Hebrews 12:
5. And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him:

6. For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.

7. If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?
8. But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.


9. Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?
10. For they verily for a few days chastened us after their own pleasure; but he for our profit, that we might be partakers of his holiness.


Lots of Born-Again Witness from Paul; just takes One to Know One..
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Paul/Saul was the antichrist, the prince of this world coming Jesus was warning his disciples from.
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drama are you saying the bible is wrong???
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How so? All got fulfilled as prophesied by Jesus in the 1st century.
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There is a lot that still needs to be fulfilled from the OT.
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Paul/Saul was the antichrist, the prince of this world coming Jesus was warning his disciples from.
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Get Born-Again and see if you can't recognize Paul as your brother in Christ...

Nothing more certain to prove one's alienation from God than to throw shit at St. Paul...

Of course, he has one for you and all the other Laodiceans who won't Come Unto The Father... From Hebrews 12:
5. And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him:

6. For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.

7. If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?
8. But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.


9. Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?
10. For they verily for a few days chastened us after their own pleasure; but he for our profit, that we might be partakers of his holiness.


Lots of Born-Again Witness from Paul; just takes One to Know One..
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Born-again is another definition for screwing up the original Gospel, the outcomes you can it see everywhere if you have the eyes to see.
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Paul/Saul was the antichrist, the prince of this world coming Jesus was warning his disciples from.
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drama are you saying the bible is wrong???
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How so? All got fulfilled as prophesied by Jesus in the 1st century.
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There is a lot that still needs to be fulfilled from the OT.
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E.g.?
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Paul/Saul was the antichrist, the prince of this world coming Jesus was warning his disciples from.
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drama are you saying the bible is wrong???
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How so? All got fulfilled as prophesied by Jesus in the 1st century.
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The writings of Paul in the bible, are they right or wrong?
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Paul/Saul was the antichrist, the prince of this world coming Jesus was warning his disciples from.
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drama are you saying the bible is wrong???
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How so? All got fulfilled as prophesied by Jesus in the 1st century.
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The writings of Paul in the bible, are they right or wrong?
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Depends which verses, if they contradict the Gospels they are surely wrong.
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Paul/Saul was the antichrist, the prince of this world coming Jesus was warning his disciples from.
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Get Born-Again and see if you can't recognize Paul as your brother in Christ...

Nothing more certain to prove one's alienation from God than to throw shit at St. Paul...

Of course, he has one for you and all the other Laodiceans who won't Come Unto The Father... From Hebrews 12:
5. And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him:

6. For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.

7. If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?
8. But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.


9. Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?
10. For they verily for a few days chastened us after their own pleasure; but he for our profit, that we might be partakers of his holiness.


Lots of Born-Again Witness from Paul; just takes One to Know One..
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Born-again is another definition for screwing up the original Gospel, the outcomes you can it see everywhere if you have the eyes to see.
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I'd say you're pretty confused...

What does "the original Gospel" matter?
The whole "Eyes To See" thing relates back to Matt 13:11-15; except there, Jesus Says HE's ONLY Witnessing to those who have heart to See/Hear The Gospel... and later Says HE Does NOT Seek after those who intellectualize or seek with their head..

10. And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?


11. He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
12. For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.


13. Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.
14. And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:

15. For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.


Don't BS here about "the original" Gospel, or which translation, which version...

There's NO Coming Unto The Father by intellectual understanding.

God doesn't need your approval and isn't seeking after those who find HIM in "proofs"...

If you were Called BY The Father and can See/Hear The Gospel in your heart, you innately KNOW that surrender Unto HIM is "Right and Meet" as the Episcopalians say.

If you can Hear and See The Gospel with your heart, you KNOW that Coming Unto The Father is how you hope to get closer to HIM...


Of course this takes surrender, capitulation of self... No Hebrews 12 Bastard will even accept God's Chastisement or Guidance, much less give their All Unto HIM...

If you gotta think about it, you don't got the heart!
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drama are you saying the bible is wrong???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77541764


How so? All got fulfilled as prophesied by Jesus in the 1st century.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76349932


The writings of Paul in the bible, are they right or wrong?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77541764


Depends which verses, if they contradict the Gospels they are surely wrong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76349932


If you're not Ezekiel 36:26-27 Born-Again and thus Enabled BY The Father TO KNOW and DO HIS Will, how could you Know what contradicts what or the "what" about anything Paul Witnesses of?
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drama are you saying the bible is wrong???
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How so? All got fulfilled as prophesied by Jesus in the 1st century.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76349932


There is a lot that still needs to be fulfilled from the OT.
 Quoting: Achduke7


E.g.?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76349932


Eze 37:21 "Then say to them, 'Thus says the Lord God: "Surely I will take the children of Israel from among the nations, wherever they have gone, and will gather them from every side and bring them into their own land;
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All of this already happened. You all are already following the little child that shall lead them.
And you screwed him over royally, never ever honored your agreements or contracts.
there is a re-boot coming, and then 'HE' will have access to every event that has ever occurred again and the real punishment begins.

Why couldn't you just help him out instead of hinder and mislead. You starved and poisoned him as a child, beat him, hit him, made fun of, humiliated him.
You denied him everything at every turn.
What do you think is in store for you?
Would not want to be you when his principals are returned and the reverse is flipped.
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How so? All got fulfilled as prophesied by Jesus in the 1st century.
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There is a lot that still needs to be fulfilled from the OT.
 Quoting: Achduke7


E.g.?
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Eze 37:21 "Then say to them, 'Thus says the Lord God: "Surely I will take the children of Israel from among the nations, wherever they have gone, and will gather them from every side and bring them into their own land;
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Lester; But why are you omitting so much from Bible prophesy? Now you are in total disagreement with reputable scholars who have dedicated their entire lives to understanding eschatology and God's word.
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There is a lot that still needs to be fulfilled from the OT.
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E.g.?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76349932


Eze 37:21 "Then say to them, 'Thus says the Lord God: "Surely I will take the children of Israel from among the nations, wherever they have gone, and will gather them from every side and bring them into their own land;
 Quoting: Achduke7


Lester; But why are you omitting so much from Bible prophesy? Now you are in total disagreement with reputable scholars who have dedicated their entire lives to understanding eschatology and God's word.
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There is nothing I've posted that you have cited.

I'm not "omitting" anything...

Everything that matters I've posted.


I don't care about "Bible Scholars"...
Until God The Father Gives us that New Heart Of HIS Flesh, there's no Relationship or Understanding...

Basically, "scholars" have no experience In or Of God.

I gave my life to God in 1984... I was Instructed BY The Father To Witness in 2004. Until I began to write my witness, 3/8/04 here and on other forums, I Never Studied The Scriptures...

WHY?
Because any question I had Of God or About HIM and HIS Will; I Just ASKED HIM...

Of course, "Christians" play a game with Scripture. The "game" is: "let's see if I approve of God"...


Such is Laodicea... Protestantism perverted by billy graham and other "preacher" types who Never Came Unto The Father, thus Never were Born-Again.


God The Holy Spirit Dwells Within Those Who Are HIS...
Plainly Said in Ezekiel 36:26 "I Will Put MY Spirit Within you". The Holy Spirit Witnesses HIMSELF when HIS People Meet each other... They are Given To KNOW they've met, encountered, or even just seen another Born-Again. They're Given To KNOW when they read Witness or other writings.


Scholars don't need God; they got divinity degrees.


All this bullshit posted here is enmity to witness.
bullshit posted by those who're alienated from God and Know Nothing...


Takes Brokenness to Come Unto The Father.
I've only seen Purehearts or sinners to Take Action...

The Pureheart finally surrenders their All because they've tried everything else to get close to God.
The sinner, like me, has no further options in life and just hopes/prays God will take him/her because they've botched their life so badly, they hope God will use them however HE Chooses.

I've Been IN Father's Presence, when I made my surrender, and after I did so I KNEW HE Accepted me! I was made new and Given A New Heart! I was Enabled To KNOW and DO HIS Will and I do walk in HIS Statutes and Keep HIS Judgments.


I was challenged in 2004 to prove that there was OT reference to The Born-Again Life. I searched on terms I Knew which described my life with God and found Ezekiel 36:26-27. God The Holy Spirit often Directed me to Scriptures.

It's been the same witness from me for 15yrs... Nothing has changed. God Does Not Change... Neither has my Knowing HIM...
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Does Bible Prophesy matter?


If you Came Unto The Father and were Accepted, KNOWING HIM, you KNOW: God's Will IS ALWAYS PERFECT!


Reflect on that... God's WILL IS ALWAYS PERFECT~!
Always... In ALL WAYS~!

Living In, With and Through HIM, which IS Jesus' Witness in John ch 17, there's no anxiety or fear.


Prophesy Will Be and IS Fulfilled.
But it doesn't matter when or how.


My concern is Revelation 14:7....
Ultimately, the hope of my witness is that anyone who reads it might Seek God In Earnest Sincere Prayer and ask God To Accept them as HIS...

I would that every human being could KNOW HIM as I do and live In HIS Will and free of sin. Of course, that will be the purpose of Jesus' Return.

Not that all will want to, or that all even have souls to be able to... but God's Will IS Always Perfect!

My life has been A Blessing Beyond Anything I Could have prayed for or imagined having. Living In and With God The Father is Ultimate Fulfillment.


Not Ezekiel 36:26-27 Born-Again?
Then there is no Knowing... No Enablement No Relationship.

St. John Witnesses that those Christians unable/unwilling to Come Unto The Father and Be Born-Again (Given An Unction From The Holy One) are anti-Christ.


Christ Jesus Died on the cross To Enable Our Coming Unto The Father so we could Live In and With The Holy Trinity Now and Forever....

Yet, we have to decide,
We have to make our surrender,
We have to Trust Father-God Fully with all we are and want HIM more than anything...

I was raised and educated catholic. Never heard about this in church.

You probably never heard about Coming Unto The Father in surrender either.

Claim Jesus?
In total awe of HIS Sacrifice To BE Our Redeemer?

Then you Take Action and Open Your Heart Unto The Father and Give HIM Your All...

You just have to start and mean it with all your heart.


Final Moments...
When God's Angel of Rev 14:7 Give Witness, The Age Of Faith and WAY Unto The Father Through Christ will have Ended...

Those who Are HIS In and With HIM,
Those who aren't are on their own...


Maranatha!!!
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Paul/Saul was the antichrist, the prince of this world coming Jesus was warning his disciples from.
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Get Born-Again and see if you can't recognize Paul as your brother in Christ...

Nothing more certain to prove one's alienation from God than to throw shit at St. Paul...

Of course, he has one for you and all the other Laodiceans who won't Come Unto The Father... From Hebrews 12:
5. And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him:

6. For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.

7. If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?
8. But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.


9. Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?
10. For they verily for a few days chastened us after their own pleasure; but he for our profit, that we might be partakers of his holiness.


Lots of Born-Again Witness from Paul; just takes One to Know One..
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Born-again is another definition for screwing up the original Gospel, the outcomes you can it see everywhere if you have the eyes to see.
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You are clueless. Born Again is a regeneration, either you have been or not, it is a gift of God's Grace and Jesus Christ's patience.
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Excellent thread to lead us into day 25, (week 3 day 4) of the counting of the Omer.

Blessed are You, YAHUAH, King of the Universe, who has sanctified us with His commandments, and commanded us concerning the counting of the Omer.

Blessed are you YAHUAH who showed us in your Moedim the plan you have for mankind and how Yahushua your son will fulfill it.

Blessed are you YAHUAH for giving us your Mazzaroth so that those with understanding might see your plan in the Heavens and behold it's unfolding.

Blessed is your Son and the gift given.

Shalom in a World lacking in Shalom.

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Farewell American Samoa, the "last stop of today and just a stones throw from tomorrow"and with that said and done I stood up, standing at the end of the day and walked boldly onward into tomorrow and to the given day of rest.
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Paul/Saul was the antichrist, the prince of this world coming Jesus was warning his disciples from.
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Get Born-Again and see if you can't recognize Paul as your brother in Christ...

Nothing more certain to prove one's alienation from God than to throw shit at St. Paul...

Of course, he has one for you and all the other Laodiceans who won't Come Unto The Father... From Hebrews 12:
5. And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him:

6. For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.

7. If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?
8. But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.


9. Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?
10. For they verily for a few days chastened us after their own pleasure; but he for our profit, that we might be partakers of his holiness.


Lots of Born-Again Witness from Paul; just takes One to Know One..
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Born-again is another definition for screwing up the original Gospel, the outcomes you can it see everywhere if you have the eyes to see.
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You are clueless. Born Again is a regeneration, either you have been or not, it is a gift of God's Grace and Jesus Christ's patience.
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The Love Of God for us, HIS Creation, was Proven By HIS Manifestation of HIS Only Begotten Son into this world to Bring The Gospel and Be The Propitiation For All Sin.

Yes it's a regeneration. Father's Witness Says so In Ezekiel 36:26 "A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh."

It's more a Deliverance.
Father Gives us A New Heart Of HIS Flesh...
Delivered from our "stony" carnally alienated heart, and Brought Into HIM!

Christ Jesus' Redemption Enables us to Come Into Father's Presence. The Father cannot look upon sin. Thus Jesus Redeemed Us BY HIS Blood and The Gospel Witnesses To Our Heart that we should Come Unto The Father.

Matt 22:1-14 is The WHOLE ENCHILADA... posting this next.
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From Matthew 22

1. And Jesus answered and spake unto them again by parables, and said,
2. The kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain king, which made a marriage for his son,


3. And sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come.
4. Again, he sent forth other servants, saying, Tell them which are bidden, Behold, I have prepared my dinner: my oxen and my fatlings are killed, and all things are ready: come unto the marriage.
5. But they made light of it, and went their ways, one to his farm, another to his merchandise:
6. And the remnant took his servants, and entreated them spitefully, and slew them.
7. But when the king heard thereof, he was wroth: and he sent forth his armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city.


8. Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy.
9. Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage.
10. So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests.


11. And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment:
12. And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless.

13. Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.


14. For many are called, but few are chosen.



The Christian Life IS ALL About Answering Father's Call.

Got to have your Wedding Garment~!
Your Born-Again Heart!
Your Relationship With and God The Father.

It is Through and By God's Grace that HE Want's To Know Us Personally and Directly. BY HIS Grace and Love that HE Sent Christ Jesus To Redeem Us.


Think it's not necessary to Acknowledge WHO Christ Jesus IS, Admit and repent of your sins, and Give your life to God?

Well, okay... All I can tell anyone is My witness: What I have seen and Been Given To Know. Almost 35yrs ago and I remember every aspect of How I Made My Surrender as if it were yesterday. The most Important day of my life!

"For many were Called, but few are Chosen!"....

Everyone who Knows WHO Christ Jesus IS was "chosen" By The Father. Jesus Tells us that in Matt 16:13-20. Knowing WHO HE IS is "the rock" upon which I Build MY Church. Our Invitation to attend Father's Wedding Feast.

Up to us to Take Action.... To Come Unto Father and make our surrender...

Faith without works is dead!
"Works" meaning Action... Manifesting our Love For HIM Into Commitment and surrender.

We die unto self when we make our surrender, and through our surrender comes HIS Victory!


Maranatha!!!
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Well Lester; I have appreciated your witnessing, but to say Billy Graham perverted the Word of God is not entirely true. Furthermore, there are many "Baby Christians" out there who are just "teething" on the Word. Many will not be given Holy Unction during their life. There also are many who have been given Holy Unction, and have not entirely submitted, yet are still trying hard to remain in the Word, but are falling short. What about them all?. I simply cannot believe St. John would go so far as to categorize them, and label them all as an anti-christ. Of course, if you are given words to speak directly from God, durung the final days, and do not speak them, than this is known as the unforgivable sin. This is what John meant imo.
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The only "unforgiveable" sin is denial of The Holy Spirit.

All those unable to Come Unto The Father are who and what they are...

God's Will IS Always Perfect!
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Paul/Saul was the antichrist, the prince of this world coming Jesus was warning his disciples from.
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kinda looks like a serbian flag you sure youre not serbian?
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Responding here with the orig post's ideas separated for clarity:

Well Lester; I have appreciated your witnessing, but to say Billy Graham perverted the Word of God is not entirely true.

Furthermore, there are many "Baby Christians" out there who are just "teething" on the Word. Many will not be given Holy Unction during their life. There also are many who have been given Holy Unction, and have not entirely submitted, yet are still trying hard to remain in the Word, but are falling short. What about them all?.

I simply cannot believe St. John would go so far as to categorize them, and label them all as an anti-christ. Of course, if you are given words to speak directly from God, durung the final days, and do not speak them, than this is known as the unforgivable sin. This is what John meant imo.
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Okay, a very well-reasoned set of questions. Thanks!

As to billy graham & most other Laodicean preachers/teachers/ministers... This could be a lengthy thread on its own. But... what graham did, and I won't capitalize his name, is to change The Gospel into a For Dummies or Cliff Notes affair for Laodicea church age Christians.

Nowhere in Scripture is there anything about "accepting Jesus as your (or anyone's) Lord & Saviour, in your heart or otherwise, to be "saved"... Certainly, "accepting Jesus" does not make one Born-Again. Doesn't matter who "accepts HIM", HE IS Redeemer and Saviour as well as The Word Become Flesh!

St. Paul writes to Timothy in 2nd Tim 2:1-7, specifically verse 6, that those who would minister/teach/preach "Ought First BE Partakers OF The Fruits", meaning Ezekiel 36:26-27 Born-Again. In verse 7, Paul Says "look to your heart (The Holy Spirit) for Guidance on this... Specifically "Consider what I say; and the Lord give thee understanding in all things."

So, bg and the others had divinity degrees, but weren't/aren't "Partakers Of The Fruits".... Were they, had they been; they would not have perverted The Gospel with their own compromises and absent Relationship With God. Lots of errors, compromises can be catalogued. But mainly, because NONE of them ever Came Unto The Father and were Ezekiel 36 Born-Again, they made shit up and from their carnal-hearted awareness followed self-will rather than God's Will.

To revisit The Concise Witness Of The Born-Again Life:
26. A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
27. And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

There is no "leading men to Christ", "leading men to salvation", or any purpose to the bg crusade or other similar exercises of only the Laodicean church age; which basically began after WW-II with graham hailed as new protestant leader.

Not really any discussion here about catholicism which was the tradition I was born into. Suffice to say that since Alexander (300ad) "the church" chose the world over God.

More in next post....
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Matthew 16:24
"Then Jesus said to his disciples, Whoever wants to be my disciple must deny themselves and take up their cross and follow me. For whoever wants to save their life will lose it, but whoever loses their life for me will find it"

Galatians 2:20
"I have been crucified with Christ"

Romans 6:3
Or aren’t you aware that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into His death?


Revelation 11:8
and their dead bodies will lie in the street of the great city that symbolically is called Sodom and Egypt, where their Lord was crucified.

Rev 7:13-15
13Then one of the elders addressed me: “These in white robes,” he asked, “who are they, and where have they come from?” 14“Sir,” I answered, “you know.” So he replied, “These are the ones who have come out of the great tribulation; they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. 15For this reason, ‘They are before the throne of God and serve Him day and night in His temple; and the One seated on the throne will spread His tabernacle over them.

Revelation 14:4-5
These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.5 And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God.

Rev 14:13
And I heard a voice out of heaven, saying "Write, 'Blessed are the dead dying in the Lord from now on.'" "Yes," says the Spirit, "so that they will rest from their labors; for their works follow with them."
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Responding here with the orig post's ideas separated for clarity:

Well Lester; I have appreciated your witnessing, but to say Billy Graham perverted the Word of God is not entirely true.

Furthermore, there are many "Baby Christians" out there who are just "teething" on the Word. Many will not be given Holy Unction during their life. There also are many who have been given Holy Unction, and have not entirely submitted, yet are still trying hard to remain in the Word, but are falling short. What about them all?.

I simply cannot believe St. John would go so far as to categorize them, and label them all as an anti-christ. Of course, if you are given words to speak directly from God, durung the final days, and do not speak them, than this is known as the unforgivable sin. This is what John meant imo.
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Okay, a very well-reasoned set of questions. Thanks!


2nd response: Baby Christians....

Voiced by AC 5144 with carnal-hearted feeling and hope... I commend that sentiment, have it somewhat myself, thus I post... But... What actually IS God's Will?

Goes back to Ezekiel 36:26-27:
26. A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
27. And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

Get Born-Again and Father Says HE Will ENABLE Us To KNOW and DO HIS Will, and also "walk in MY Statutes and KEEP MY JUDGMENTS"... This happens because HE Has Given Born-Agains "A New Heart Of Flesh"; HIS Flesh!

From this, We Who Are HIS realize and KNOW that Father's Will IS Always Perfect! So what about those who never Come Unto The Father????

Do they matter, when it is you, my friend, who hasn't Come Unto The Father yet? It comes down to Trusting God Fully... If you could have done so, you might have Told HIM... But you haven't...

The thing is: Christ Jesus Says: "Marvel not that I Say unto you, Ye MUST ( M_U_S_T ) Be Born-Again!" John 3:7 Pretty much, HIS earliest Witness, the Nicodemus evening...

Then there's John 14:6, the part after I Am The Truth, The Light and The Way.... HE Says, "...No man Cometh Unto The Father but BY ME!"


Coming Unto The Father IS WHY We Who Love HIM and KNOW WHO Christ Jesus IS were born, Given Life...

Of course, in Laodicea, nobody here's John 3:7 or 14:6 from the pulpit or anywhere else...


So... your concern about God's Plan/Will is empathetic, just not a matter for your concern. What it does is show your alienation and self-will... As Jesus Says in Matt 7:21-23 by your self-will you identify as a "worker of iniquity"... Iniquity being living in-self rather than In and Through God The Father.

Comes back to Being Born-Again. Just like Jesus' Whole Enchilada Witness about Christianity, Matt 22:1-14, posted up above. "The Kindom of Heaven is like Unto A Certain King WHO Made A Wedding Feast For HIS Son."

EVERYTHING IS About Answering Father's Call...

Go back to Matthew 16:13-20 and see Jesus' Witness that ONLY HIS Father could have Put KNOWLEDGE Of WHO HE IS Upon Peter's heart...

Look at Matt 13:11-15 to see that Jesus Deliberately Chose NOT to speak plainly when Teaching, so that those unable to See/Hear The Gospel with their heart, would NOT Understand! "Lest they be converted and I should (have) to Heal them!"

Laodicean Christianity has perverted The Gospel it preaches and sought iniquity rather than Guidance From The Holy Trinity.



To get to the last issue you bring up, John Says "If they were Of Us, they would have Continued With Us..." Lots there in that sentence.

Yet John defines who is anti-Christ... It ain't muslims, sikhs, budhists or others who worship outside of Christianity; it's Christians (like you, AC 5144) who aren't Born-Again, aren't yet Enabled To KNOW God Personally and Directly and who pursue their will rather than God's Will...

I was an anti-Christ... All with carnal, stony-heart, are... "...Ye MUST Be Born-Again!" Isn't "MUST" pretty plain as an instruction? It IS the only use of MUST By Jesus as a Directive... But it just slips past us Laodiceans...


God's Truth can be a bitter pill to confront... Especially if you Believe you're ideas of serving HIM come from HIM... Maybe you're unwilling to Believe that God Will Bring You Into HIS Presence? That you Can KNOW HIM and KNOW HIM better and with more confidence than your earthly parents?

Matt 7:21-23 is the concise Witness of Rejection... Luke 13:22-28, Matt 22:11-13, and Rev 3:15-17 are others. But...
21. Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23. And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

So, here is the theme of Laodicea: workers of iniquity...
Because NOT Born-Again, but presuming God's Will is their own... It's Not!

Can't accept God's Will?
Then you don't really accept HIM as God...

The carnal-heart betrays us, always; in every way.
ONLY Father-God Can Deliver Us From carnality...



Thanks to you AC 5144 for the great opportunity to expand my witness; What I Have Been Given To SEE and KNOW.


Christ Jesus Made The Way for us on calvary...
Up to each one of us to decide that we Trust Father Fully and Take Action By Coming Unto HIM in surrender.

Everything In Christianity is about Coming Unto The Father!
Until we do so, we aren't HIS.


Maranatha!!!
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Matthew 16:24
"Then Jesus said to his disciples, Whoever wants to be my disciple must deny themselves and take up their cross and follow me. For whoever wants to save their life will lose it, but whoever loses their life for me will find it"


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Coming Unto The Father and surrendering self Unto HIM is "dying unto self" also "losing their life". Like the young prince who asks what he must do to follow Christ... It ain't giving all he has to the poor, it's Giving Up Self Unto The Father...

All any of us "own" in this life is our self...

Because of original sin, A&E's choice of self-will over Living In and Through God's Will, we are born into alienation from God.

Coming Unto HIM in surrender allows God (remember the self-will thing) to Bring Us Into HIS Accord. This is The Born-Again Life. Read Jesus' Witness of it in John ch 17. John 17 is the Only Witness Jesus Gives that is Given As A Prayer!
It matters...

First John 2:20-27 is a Born-Again Life Witness... "...You Have An Unction From The Holy One and Know All things!"

When we are HIS, God Gives us Witness To Know All Things in the scope of our life... We are Living In and Through HIM...


Until Born-Again, the carnal-heart is not going to allow Scriptural Understanding. It, the carnal-heart, is so powerful a foe, that ONLY God The Father Can Deliver Us!


If you think you know God and Scripture, but also Know you've never made your surrender or Stood In HIS Presence, then all you voice which you believe to be Of-God, is actually of your own carnal-hearted self-will...
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Christ Jesus Brought The Gospel and Gave HIS Life To Enable Us To Answer Father's Call.

Everything Jesus did and does was In Service Unto HIS Father.

HE Says in Rev 3:15-17 that most Laodiceans are lukewarm, neither hot or cold. It's the whole Rejection Thing, no matter how well you thought you were serving God...

Think those that did the Miracles, Cast-Out demons and Prophesied In HIS Name from Matt 7:22 didn't think everything was cool with God?

They did it "all", except Come Unto The Father and give HIM their lives...



God already has your life In HIS Hands...
Why can't you Come Unto HIM in acknowledgment of this and in surrender to HIS Most Perfect Will?

Your carnal-heart prevents it!


Got to Take Action!

Faith without works (action) is dead!

Without taking action, you're gonna hear "Depart from ME, you who work iniquity: I Know You NOT!"


Can't Trust God Fully and Take Action?
Then, sad as it may be, you ARE an anti-Christ!

Takes self-honesty and full sincerity to Come Unto The Father... Hope all you that might look can find yours!

Maranatha!!!
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Nobody ever talks about Jesus' Rejection Witnesses...

Matt 7:21-23 has been covered above, but then there's Luke 13:22-28:

22. And he went through the cities and villages, teaching, and journeying toward Jerusalem.
23. Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved? And he said unto them,


24. Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.

25. When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are:

26. Then shall ye begin to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets.


27. But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity.


28. There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.


"Lord, Lord, Open unto us...."
Great Expectations were nothing compared to this!

"...Ye shall See Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out."





GLP