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I love my mama and papa and I am willing to face eternal hell for doing so

 
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I love my mama and papa and I am willing to face eternal hell for doing so
I don’t care what Matthew 20:34-37 or Luke 12:26 says.
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Re: I love my mama and papa and I am willing to face eternal hell for doing so
Matthew 10 I meant
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04/22/2019 12:58 AM
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Actually is should have been translated "love less". Pull out your concordance. God comes first.
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Actually is should have been translated "love less". Pull out your concordance. God comes first.
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No it means hate because it says members of the household will be enemies. No. My parents come first. They bore me and raised me. I will face eternal hell but they come first.
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Actually is should have been translated "love less". Pull out your concordance. God comes first.
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No it means hate because it says members of the household will be enemies. No. My parents come first. They bore me and raised me. I will face eternal hell but they come first.
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Mat 10:37  He that lovethG5368 fatherG3962 orG2228 motherG3384 moreG5228 than meG1691 isG2076 notG3756 worthyG514 of me:G3450 andG2532 he that lovethG5368 sonG5207 orG2228 daughterG2364 moreG5228 than meG1691 isG2076 notG3756 worthyG514 of me.G3450

And it's Luke 14:26

Luk 14:26  If anyG1536 man comeG2064 toG4314 me,G3165 andG2532 hateG3404 notG3756 hisG1438 father,G3962 andG2532 mother,G3384 andG2532 wife,G1135 andG2532 children,G5043 andG2532 brethren,G80 andG2532 sisters,G79 yea,(G2089) andG1161 his ownG1438 lifeG5590 also,G2532 he cannotG1410 G3756 beG1511 myG3450 disciple.G3101

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μισέω
miseō
mis-eh'-o
From a primary word μῖσος misos (hatred); to detest (especially to persecute); by extension to love less: - hate (-ful).
Total KJV occurrences: 42
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04/22/2019 01:40 AM
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Re: I love my mama and papa and I am willing to face eternal hell for doing so
YOu can twist it any way you like but it doesn't change the core message of hate which has destroyed my family my whole life. The spell is now broken and I do not care for what some book says. I do not need a book to be with God and my God is love.

Matthew 10:34-37 New International Version (NIV)

34 “Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35 For I have come to turn

“‘a man against his father,
a daughter against her mother,
a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law—
36 a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household.’[a]
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And of course the real God doesn't expect anything of the kind. The real God doesn't even care if you believe in God, but that you love those around you, and therefore Love God within them, because the real God loves us, and doesn't expect anything like they teach.

Be kind, love others, help others to be happy and try to get better leaders. Thats what the real God is about.

Everything else is not it.
The Devil tries to convince everyone he doesn't exist.
The state tries to convince everyone they cannot resist.
Do not go quietly into the good night. Rage Rage against the dying light!
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And of course the real God doesn't expect anything of the kind. The real God doesn't even care if you believe in God, but that you love those around you, and therefore Love God within them, because the real God loves us, and doesn't expect anything like they teach.

Be kind, love others, help others to be happy and try to get better leaders. Thats what the real God is about.

Everything else is not it.
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Thank you. WHereas I had hate in my heart because of this evil spell that called itself righteousness I now have love.

Love you. x
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And of course the real God doesn't expect anything of the kind. The real God doesn't even care if you believe in God, but that you love those around you, and therefore Love God within them, because the real God loves us, and doesn't expect anything like they teach.

Be kind, love others, help others to be happy and try to get better leaders. Thats what the real God is about.

Everything else is not it.
 Quoting: Sungaze_At_Dawn


Thank you. WHereas I had hate in my heart because of this evil spell that called itself righteousness I now have love.

Love you. x
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55150020


It's essential to understand the full, holistic context of scripture and the original language to understand what is being said.

If I said to you, "I'm coming when a creature is stirring, not even a mouse," you understand I'm referring to Christmas. I'm using linguistic tools to convey something to you.

Christ was not saying "you have to hate others in your household." This is language used to make the point that you are standing up for love and principle, and if those in your house are not standing up for goodness, you will be reviled by them.

"I didn't come to bring peace," because, by standing up for goodness, you are an antagonist in a world that is compassionless and dark, and it is as an act of war to be the light within it.
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Re: I love my mama and papa and I am willing to face eternal hell for doing so
And of course the real God doesn't expect anything of the kind. The real God doesn't even care if you believe in God, but that you love those around you, and therefore Love God within them, because the real God loves us, and doesn't expect anything like they teach.

Be kind, love others, help others to be happy and try to get better leaders. Thats what the real God is about.

Everything else is not it.
 Quoting: Sungaze_At_Dawn


Thank you. WHereas I had hate in my heart because of this evil spell that called itself righteousness I now have love.

Love you. x
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55150020


It's essential to understand the full, holistic context of scripture and the original language to understand what is being said.

If I said to you, "I'm coming when a creature is stirring, not even a mouse," you understand I'm referring to Christmas. I'm using linguistic tools to convey something to you.

Christ was not saying "you have to hate others in your household." This is language used to make the point that you are standing up for love and principle, and if those in your house are not standing up for goodness, you will be reviled by them.

"I didn't come to bring peace," because, by standing up for goodness, you are an antagonist in a world that is compassionless and dark, and it is as an act of war to be the light within it.
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Again, you can twist and turn it any way you wish but the core of the christian message is hate. Hate for the self and hatred for others for the love of an IDEA of God.
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04/22/2019 03:08 AM
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Re: I love my mama and papa and I am willing to face eternal hell for doing so
Actually is should have been translated "love less". Pull out your concordance. God comes first.
 Quoting: A Chosen


No it means hate because it says members of the household will be enemies. No. My parents come first. They bore me and raised me. I will face eternal hell but they come first.
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you're good with the Quran though.
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Re: I love my mama and papa and I am willing to face eternal hell for doing so
Actually is should have been translated "love less". Pull out your concordance. God comes first.
 Quoting: A Chosen


No it means hate because it says members of the household will be enemies. No. My parents come first. They bore me and raised me. I will face eternal hell but they come first.
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you're good with the Quran though.
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Logical fallacy:

Because I claim the tenets of Chistianity as false and destructive to the family unit, I must be a follower of Islam.
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Re: I love my mama and papa and I am willing to face eternal hell for doing so
Actually is should have been translated "love less". Pull out your concordance. God comes first.
 Quoting: A Chosen


No it means hate because it says members of the household will be enemies. No. My parents come first. They bore me and raised me. I will face eternal hell but they come first.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55150020


you're good with the Quran though.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75901577


Logical fallacy:

Because I claim the tenets of Chistianity as false and destructive to the family unit, I must be a follower of Islam.
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no, I mean in the respect of being good to your parents.
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No it means hate because it says members of the household will be enemies. No. My parents come first. They bore me and raised me. I will face eternal hell but they come first.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55150020


you're good with the Quran though.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75901577


Logical fallacy:

Because I claim the tenets of Chistianity as false and destructive to the family unit, I must be a follower of Islam.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55150020


no, I mean in the respect of being good to your parents.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75901577


unless of course, they deny the existence of God. then, you need not obey as eagerly.
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Re: I love my mama and papa and I am willing to face eternal hell for doing so
Actually is should have been translated "love less". Pull out your concordance. God comes first.
 Quoting: A Chosen


If God authored the bible youd think hed have gotten that translation right the first time.
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No it means hate because it says members of the household will be enemies. No. My parents come first. They bore me and raised me. I will face eternal hell but they come first.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55150020


you're good with the Quran though.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75901577


Logical fallacy:

Because I claim the tenets of Chistianity as false and destructive to the family unit, I must be a follower of Islam.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55150020


no, I mean in the respect of being good to your parents.
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I don't know what the Quran says nor do I care.
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Re: I love my mama and papa and I am willing to face eternal hell for doing so
Actually is should have been translated "love less". Pull out your concordance. God comes first.
 Quoting: A Chosen


If God authored the bible youd think hed have gotten that translation right the first time.
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So much for the 'inerrant word of God', right?
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you're good with the Quran though.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75901577


Logical fallacy:

Because I claim the tenets of Chistianity as false and destructive to the family unit, I must be a follower of Islam.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55150020


no, I mean in the respect of being good to your parents.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75901577


I don't know what the Quran says nor do I care.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55150020


only the Bible huh?





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