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The Vaccine Debate They Don't Want You To See

 
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Amazing how you can't find a single....single......one......single...Actual M.D., nor Biochemist, nor Chemist that says vaccinations are bad or that the risk out-weighs the benefit to society. Funny huh... But you'll find 2000+ actually living retards who never even so much as took a University class in any science discipline "arguing" lolz, as if they could, about how bad vaccines are mmm'kay! LOLZ

I do agree with them in one point.... Ignorant people and their off-spring should not be allowed vaccinations. It's a two-fer for Darwinism.
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wHy does Bill Gates choose to not vaccinate his family then, along with just about every elite/high-profile person out there?



You suck!
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Yeah I did watch the video
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So, how many assurances you have? Must be some dozens, because you can get hit by a car, break a leg or get a lightning stroke.

By vaccinating, you're painting a black picture.
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Disease has been an issue for mankind for a long time before vaccinations were invented.


I think anti-vaxxers forget about that. And the thing about disease is that it's undiscriminating in how it attacks.


That is why SO many people have DIED from DISEASE before the invention of vaccinations.
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If you'd have watched the video in the OP, you'd know that the problem is with the way the industry currently handles vaccinations, not with the science of vaccination itself.

You would be demanding double-blind studies, not fighting a straw man like a greenhorn shill.
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You have to view it from the perspective of the gov't. I don't think the CAN admit to autism being related to vaccines.... for then people would never use vaccines AGAIN!!!!

It's not as simply and clear cut as you think it is.


What do you think might happen if the gov't admitted to vaccines causing autism? What do you think wwould result from that?
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So, how many assurances you have? Must be some dozens, because you can get hit by a car, break a leg or get a lightning stroke.

By vaccinating, you're painting a black picture.
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Disease has been an issue for mankind for a long time before vaccinations were invented.


I think anti-vaxxers forget about that. And the thing about disease is that it's undiscriminating in how it attacks.


That is why SO many people have DIED from DISEASE before the invention of vaccinations.
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If you'd have watched the video in the OP, you'd know that the problem is with the way the industry currently handles vaccinations, not with the science of vaccination itself.

You would be demanding double-blind studies, not fighting a straw man like a greenhorn shill.
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You have to view it from the perspective of the gov't. I don't think the CAN admit to autism being related to vaccines.... for then people would never use vaccines AGAIN!!!!

It's not as simply and clear cut as you think it is.


What do you think might happen if the gov't admitted to vaccines causing autism? What do you think wwould result from that?
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I would say that if gov't admitted that vaccines can cause autism in some people... that no one would vaccinate.... ever again..... and then disease would SPREAD.
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Disease has been an issue for mankind for a long time before vaccinations were invented.


I think anti-vaxxers forget about that. And the thing about disease is that it's undiscriminating in how it attacks.


That is why SO many people have DIED from DISEASE before the invention of vaccinations.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69398780


If you'd have watched the video in the OP, you'd know that the problem is with the way the industry currently handles vaccinations, not with the science of vaccination itself.

You would be demanding double-blind studies, not fighting a straw man like a greenhorn shill.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77227766


You have to view it from the perspective of the gov't. I don't think the CAN admit to autism being related to vaccines.... for then people would never use vaccines AGAIN!!!!

It's not as simply and clear cut as you think it is.


What do you think might happen if the gov't admitted to vaccines causing autism? What do you think wwould result from that?
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I would say that if gov't admitted that vaccines can cause autism in some people... that no one would vaccinate.... ever again..... and then disease would SPREAD.
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Deadly disease
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Amazing how you can't find a single....single......one......single...Actual M.D., nor Biochemist, nor Chemist that says vaccinations are bad or that the risk out-weighs the benefit to society. Funny huh... But you'll find 2000+ actually living retards who never even so much as took a University class in any science discipline "arguing" lolz, as if they could, about how bad vaccines are mmm'kay! LOLZ

I do agree with them in one point.... Ignorant people and their off-spring should not be allowed vaccinations. It's a two-fer for Darwinism.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76858147


wHy does Bill Gates choose to not vaccinate his family then, along with just about every elite/high-profile person out there?



You suck!
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what's actually most funny about this video is despite his "intelligence", he still doesn't understand that with zero C02 there is zero plant life lol... and with zero plant life there is zero animal life. The only "life" supported by his model is bacteria living deep in the ocean near gas leaks lol.

or.... he knows perfectly well but likes putting on show for idiot masses to appeal to their idiocy while covertly showing them how to kill themselves.
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If you'd have watched the video in the OP, you'd know that the problem is with the way the industry currently handles vaccinations, not with the science of vaccination itself.

You would be demanding double-blind studies, not fighting a straw man like a greenhorn shill.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77227766


You have to view it from the perspective of the gov't. I don't think the CAN admit to autism being related to vaccines.... for then people would never use vaccines AGAIN!!!!

It's not as simply and clear cut as you think it is.


What do you think might happen if the gov't admitted to vaccines causing autism? What do you think wwould result from that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69398780


I would say that if gov't admitted that vaccines can cause autism in some people... that no one would vaccinate.... ever again..... and then disease would SPREAD.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69398780


Deadly disease
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You simply can't take that risk.
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Our vaccines are failing. And they have set up an awful situation for society.

[link to childrenshealthdefense.org (secure)]
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To my knowledge, nobody has ever proved that vaccines really worked. But "they" don't give a fuck about that. This is about destroying your immune system.

It really is the same as they have been medicating us for decades with Fluoride in our drinking and bathing water. We were never given the chance to opt out and ridiculed if we wanted to.
I don't have the time or the crayons to explain this to you.



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You have to view it from the perspective of the gov't. I don't think the CAN admit to autism being related to vaccines.... for then people would never use vaccines AGAIN!!!!

It's not as simply and clear cut as you think it is.


What do you think might happen if the gov't admitted to vaccines causing autism? What do you think wwould result from that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69398780


I would say that if gov't admitted that vaccines can cause autism in some people... that no one would vaccinate.... ever again..... and then disease would SPREAD.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69398780


Deadly disease
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You simply can't take that risk.
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I can, and i will take that "risk". You can double down and take my vaccine for me
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Disease has been an issue for mankind for a long time before vaccinations were invented.


I think anti-vaxxers forget about that. And the thing about disease is that it's undiscriminating in how it attacks.


That is why SO many people have DIED from DISEASE before the invention of vaccinations.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69398780


If you'd have watched the video in the OP, you'd know that the problem is with the way the industry currently handles vaccinations, not with the science of vaccination itself.

You would be demanding double-blind studies, not fighting a straw man like a greenhorn shill.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77227766


You have to view it from the perspective of the gov't. I don't think the CAN admit to autism being related to vaccines.... for then people would never use vaccines AGAIN!!!!

It's not as simply and clear cut as you think it is.


What do you think might happen if the gov't admitted to vaccines causing autism? What do you think wwould result from that?
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I would say that if gov't admitted that vaccines can cause autism in some people... that no one would vaccinate.... ever again..... and then disease would SPREAD.
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stop double posting... u already stated all of this on the previous page, word-for-word

pharma-satan shill
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This is excellent, so excellent that Facebook blocked it yesterday after it aired.

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“I am a Christian “ ?
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Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Are you sinless?
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I told my son never get a flu shot ..
can’t nothing stop you from chasing your dreams. Family over everything

I got all my game from my homies yeah yeah
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So, how many assurances you have? Must be some dozens, because you can get hit by a car, break a leg or get a lightning stroke.

By vaccinating, you're painting a black picture.
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Disease has been an issue for mankind for a long time before vaccinations were invented.


I think anti-vaxxers forget about that. And the thing about disease is that it's undiscriminating in how it attacks.


That is why SO many people have DIED from DISEASE before the invention of vaccinations.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69398780


If you'd have watched the video in the OP, you'd know that the problem is with the way the industry currently handles vaccinations, not with the science of vaccination itself.

You would be demanding double-blind studies, not fighting a straw man like a greenhorn shill.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77227766


You have to view it from the perspective of the gov't. I don't think the CAN admit to autism being related to vaccines.... for then people would never use vaccines AGAIN!!!!

It's not as simply and clear cut as you think it is.


What do you think might happen if the gov't admitted to vaccines causing autism? What do you think wwould result from that?
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Hopefully fewer vaccinations until they can be done properly.

ALS is one in 78 now. A non-functional human dependent on long-term care or disability puts far more burden on the system than a dead one. If you want to play cold logic, that's fine too.
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This is one of the most productive discussions I've ever seen on this or any other subject.

No matter your stance on vax you owe it to yourself to watch.
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Dude, this topic is like 9/11. Dead horse if one doesn't already know reality then will probably never know.
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Disease has been an issue for mankind for a long time before vaccinations were invented.


I think anti-vaxxers forget about that. And the thing about disease is that it's undiscriminating in how it attacks.


That is why SO many people have DIED from DISEASE before the invention of vaccinations.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69398780


If you'd have watched the video in the OP, you'd know that the problem is with the way the industry currently handles vaccinations, not with the science of vaccination itself.

You would be demanding double-blind studies, not fighting a straw man like a greenhorn shill.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77227766


You have to view it from the perspective of the gov't. I don't think the CAN admit to autism being related to vaccines.... for then people would never use vaccines AGAIN!!!!

It's not as simply and clear cut as you think it is.


What do you think might happen if the gov't admitted to vaccines causing autism? What do you think wwould result from that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69398780


Hopefully fewer vaccinations until they can be done properly.

ALS is one in 78 now. A non-functional human dependent on long-term care or disability puts far more burden on the system than a dead one. If you want to play cold logic, that's fine too.
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I don't agree with you. That's not cold logic to prefer someone being dead over being alive. That's just lacking a conscience.
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This is one of the most productive discussions I've ever seen on this or any other subject.

No matter your stance on vax you owe it to yourself to watch.
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Dude, this topic is like 9/11. Dead horse if one doesn't already know reality then will probably never know.
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And it's not the people's fault for being brainwashed. And the people financing the brainwashing aren't at fault either. No healthy person would choose to be a psychopath.
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If you'd have watched the video in the OP, you'd know that the problem is with the way the industry currently handles vaccinations, not with the science of vaccination itself.

You would be demanding double-blind studies, not fighting a straw man like a greenhorn shill.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77227766


You have to view it from the perspective of the gov't. I don't think the CAN admit to autism being related to vaccines.... for then people would never use vaccines AGAIN!!!!

It's not as simply and clear cut as you think it is.


What do you think might happen if the gov't admitted to vaccines causing autism? What do you think wwould result from that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69398780


Hopefully fewer vaccinations until they can be done properly.

ALS is one in 78 now. A non-functional human dependent on long-term care or disability puts far more burden on the system than a dead one. If you want to play cold logic, that's fine too.
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I don't agree with you. That's not cold logic to prefer someone being dead over being alive. That's just lacking a conscience.
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You don't have to agree. I posted a fact, not an opinion.
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ALS is one in 78 now. A non-functional human dependent on long-term care or disability puts far more burden on the system than a dead one. If you want to play cold logic, that's fine too.
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I don't agree with you. That's not cold logic to prefer someone being dead over being alive. That's just lacking a conscience.
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I guess I misheard that. Both of you could be in that position one day.
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Guys.

What if I told you that the government ISN'T out to KILL you?


OR make you retarded?
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Guys.

What if I told you that the government ISN'T out to KILL you?


OR make you retarded?
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Big pharma/medicine doesn't want to kill us, but they certainly wants you to be sick throughout your life.... OR else their business goes under
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Also guys.. Think about it THIS WAY


You think disease was a problem 200 years ago?

Polio and stuff?



NOW imagine a US population several times the size..... with people traveling IN AND OUT of the country ALL THE TIME.... to places which aren't as disease-free as the US is.


You HAVE to think about this from a larger perspective!!!!!
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Also guys.. Think about it THIS WAY


You think disease was a problem 200 years ago?

Polio and stuff?



NOW imagine a US population several times the size..... with people traveling IN AND OUT of the country ALL THE TIME.... to places which aren't as disease-free as the US is.


You HAVE to think about this from a larger perspective!!!!!
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People are SO much MORE MOBILE TODAY!!!

And THUS... Disease would be too if not prevented.
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A child dying from a contagious disease is sadder than a child getting autism.
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A child dying from a contagious disease is sadder than a child getting autism.
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That's one of the reasons we invented vaccines.
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A child dying from a contagious disease is sadder than a child getting autism.
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That's one of the reasons we invented vaccines.
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Stop spamming and talking to yourself.

There are other people here.
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Vaccines work.

Just look at what vaccines are doing combating diseases in Africa right now!


YES! By Bill Gates! :P

:P
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A child dying from a contagious disease is sadder than a child getting autism.
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That's one of the reasons we invented vaccines.
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Stop spamming and talking to yourself.

There are other people here.
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I'm talking to you and everyone else here.
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Vaccines work.

Just look at what vaccines are doing combating diseases in Africa right now!


YES! By Bill Gates! :P

:P
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I bet if you Trumptards and Trump had their way.... totally....

You would destroy all vaccines....


You wouldn't help ANYONE.....


You wouldn't help the planet from pollution and whatnot.....



And you'd build a stupid fucking giant wall around the US, and wouldn't let anyone from anywhere in the country.

No Chinese. No Africans. No Europeans.


And you'd think about yourselves all day.


And no one else.
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Listen, for all of you who have your knickers in a wad about infectious disease and oh it's gonna come back if we don't vax for everything,


BULLSHIT. Infectious diseases, including the ones we vax for and the MANY more we DON'T vax for, were well on the decline before vaccines were invented.

Hygiene. Sanitation. Not eating where you crap. Better nutrition. All of these enabled the first world to greatly decrease infectious diseases before any vaccinations were available. [link to www.learntherisk.org (secure)]

If you are really worried about the measles and the chickenpox, stay away from recently vaccinated people. Both of those are live virus vaccines whose inserts state that they can shed virus for up to 6 weeks.

You can still get these diseases even though you are vaccinated. We have fucked with mother nature because they used to be benign childhood diseases that provided lifetime , TRUE herd immunity. Now what we have is not herd immunity, but a very poor substitute... "immune reactions" which only last a few years and then leave the poor schmucks vulnerable to disease again. Great fucking tradeoff.
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Vaccines work.

Just look at what vaccines are doing combating diseases in Africa right now!


YES! By Bill Gates! :P

:P
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I bet if you Trumptards and Trump had their way.... totally....

You would destroy all vaccines....


You wouldn't help ANYONE.....


You wouldn't help the planet from pollution and whatnot.....



And you'd build a stupid fucking giant wall around the US, and wouldn't let anyone from anywhere in the country.

No Chinese. No Africans. No Europeans.


And you'd think about yourselves all day.


And no one else.
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bump…well said,..especially the last couple sentences :)

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