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The Vaccine Debate They Don't Want You To See

 
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Ok, still watching, but it's rather torturous. The vax guy can't seem to produce a clear argument, he keeps throwing out tech words and random studies but has no point.

Del knows his shit, and is so on point.
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My oldest child almost died from her first round back in the late 80's, she never had another shot but suffers from severe asthma and allergies all her life, I'll always wonder?

My youngest who is high school age, has never had any vaccine. I was forced to remove him from an expensive private school he loved and homeschool him much to his heartbreak, as he is very social and gregarious. It has been brutal.

He is unable to attend any school where we live as a result of criminal laws enacted by crooked politicians as pawns for their pharmaceutical overlords.

I must leave the state and family and friends in order to educate my child and there is no telling where will be safe as laws are quickly turning against us all over the country. Canada was a hope but now they are getting all shifty as well.

I mean fuck these people telling me I must poison my child in order to give him an education, and fuck all the parents who fall in line and fault me for my right to personal freedom...
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Ok, still watching, but it's rather torturous. The vax guy can't seem to produce a clear argument, he keeps throwing out tech words and random studies but has no point.

Del knows his shit, and is so on point.
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Spoiler: Del wins him over
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dont be stupid,vaccinate.
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Snark Add this one to the top of your post please!


 Quoting: Jake


Excellent video, Jake. Dr. Paul is correct that we need to stop pointing the fingers of blame between the vaxxers and the non-vaxxers. However, both sides need to start pointing the finger at Big Pharma and the CDC because it is they who refuse to deal with real data and do double blind placebo tests. THOSE are the people killing innocent children and babies by fear-mongering, lobbying legislatures and giving kick-backs to doctors. Point the finger at those who don't give a shit about people, who's only concern is to protect their cash cow.

Congress needs to get rid of the no-liability law for these vaccine companies.
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My oldest child almost died from her first round back in the late 80's, she never had another shot but suffers from severe asthma and allergies all her life, I'll always wonder?

My youngest who is high school age, has never had any vaccine. I was forced to remove him from an expensive private school he loved and homeschool him much to his heartbreak, as he is very social and gregarious. It has been brutal.

He is unable to attend any school where we live as a result of criminal laws enacted by crooked politicians as pawns for their pharmaceutical overlords.

I must leave the state and family and friends in order to educate my child and there is no telling where will be safe as laws are quickly turning against us all over the country. Canada was a hope but now they are getting all shifty as well.

I mean fuck these people telling me I must poison my child in order to give him an education, and fuck all the parents who fall in line and fault me for my right to personal freedom...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76130010


I had a doctor sympathetic to this who signed my daughter off as up to date, without the vaccines. YMMV
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BECOME MORE stupid,vaccinate.
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Fixed it for you.
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Kill all vax peddlers.
Kill all politicians forcing vax poisons.
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They've made it them or us. Self defense is not a crime.
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But it should be a crime to stab a child against the parents' will. I call it assault with a deadly weapon.
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This is excellent, so excellent that Facebook blocked it yesterday after it aired.

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:Fkbook:
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“I am a Christian “ ?
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Christians can say the F word. Even though Scrump didn't say it.
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No doubt, Christians “can” and do lots of things. I’ve been flipped off by a “Christian” before and have seen others. The internet is no different. If one is going to carry the name of Christ then let your language, actions, and writings show it, we are known by our fruits.

Col 3:8 is the F word not filthy language?
Does saying F you edify another or build them up? Giving grace to those who hear as we read in Galations?

It’s ok to take up for a friend, and I agree with Many of his posts, but we should all be mindful of our example
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My oldest child almost died from her first round back in the late 80's, she never had another shot but suffers from severe asthma and allergies all her life, I'll always wonder?

My youngest who is high school age, has never had any vaccine. I was forced to remove him from an expensive private school he loved and homeschool him much to his heartbreak, as he is very social and gregarious. It has been brutal.

He is unable to attend any school where we live as a result of criminal laws enacted by crooked politicians as pawns for their pharmaceutical overlords.

I must leave the state and family and friends in order to educate my child and there is no telling where will be safe as laws are quickly turning against us all over the country. Canada was a hope but now they are getting all shifty as well.

I mean fuck these people telling me I must poison my child in order to give him an education, and fuck all the parents who fall in line and fault me for my right to personal freedom...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76130010


I had a doctor sympathetic to this who signed my daughter off as up to date, without the vaccines. YMMV
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You are a lucky cat.

I tried that as well, I was given a list of potentials, but rebuffed by several since they are pulling medical licenses in the state now and those Drs who used to be willing are understandably scared.

My son actually has a condition that would greatly increase his risk factor but the way the laws were formulated cancer and a small group of other rather sever diseases are the only viable medical exemptions.

He is a great kid its really painful...
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My oldest child almost died from her first round back in the late 80's, she never had another shot but suffers from severe asthma and allergies all her life, I'll always wonder?

My youngest who is high school age, has never had any vaccine. I was forced to remove him from an expensive private school he loved and homeschool him much to his heartbreak, as he is very social and gregarious. It has been brutal.

He is unable to attend any school where we live as a result of criminal laws enacted by crooked politicians as pawns for their pharmaceutical overlords.

I must leave the state and family and friends in order to educate my child and there is no telling where will be safe as laws are quickly turning against us all over the country. Canada was a hope but now they are getting all shifty as well.

I mean fuck these people telling me I must poison my child in order to give him an education, and fuck all the parents who fall in line and fault me for my right to personal freedom...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76130010


I had a doctor sympathetic to this who signed my daughter off as up to date, without the vaccines. YMMV
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76638891


You're proud of helping to give my rights away? Well fuck you!! Acting like you complied makes it easier for them to take the rights of others away. Stand up and grow some honor. Faking compliance still statistically renders as compliance. FUCK!

Last Edited by janedoenut on 04/19/2019 02:33 PM
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just finished. I thought it was really well done.

shame that fuckerberg had to shut it down.

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I just watched this. Truly an amazingly informative discussion/debate. I just shared it with someone who has a lot of influence in certain communities.
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This is absolute dynamite.
Perfect summary of the vaccine problem and why it exists.

Thank you snark!!
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My oldest child almost died from her first round back in the late 80's, she never had another shot but suffers from severe asthma and allergies all her life, I'll always wonder?

My youngest who is high school age, has never had any vaccine. I was forced to remove him from an expensive private school he loved and homeschool him much to his heartbreak, as he is very social and gregarious. It has been brutal.

He is unable to attend any school where we live as a result of criminal laws enacted by crooked politicians as pawns for their pharmaceutical overlords.

I must leave the state and family and friends in order to educate my child and there is no telling where will be safe as laws are quickly turning against us all over the country. Canada was a hope but now they are getting all shifty as well.

I mean fuck these people telling me I must poison my child in order to give him an education, and fuck all the parents who fall in line and fault me for my right to personal freedom...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76130010


I had a doctor sympathetic to this who signed my daughter off as up to date, without the vaccines. YMMV
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76638891


You're proud of helping to give my rights away? Well fuck you!! Acting like you complied makes it easier for them to take the rights of others away. Stand up and grow some honor. Faking compliance still statistically renders as compliance. FUCK!
 Quoting: janedoenut


I hear you, but I really questioned how far I was willing to go to protect my rights and my child, I cannot fault any parent when you have such an over reaching government trying to force us to harm our own children. My pain on this issue is soul wrenching, I am in daily anguish.

Would you have forged papers to save a child during the holocaust? I would have a million times over, this is a different type of holocaust, children are dying immediately, then many, many just become so damaged they can never lead normal lives. For the rest it's a long slow kill if you buy the data of cancer and autoimmune disease as having foundations in the vaccines.

This is truly the murder and maiming of millions of children and the untold anguish of their parents and families. They make Dr. Mengele look compassionate. No joke...
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I hear you, but I really questioned how far I was willing to go to protect my rights and my child, I cannot fault any parent when you have such an over reaching government trying to force us to harm our own children. My pain on this issue is soul wrenching, I am in daily anguish.

Would you have forged papers to save a child during the holocaust? I would have a million times over, this is a different type of holocaust, children are dying immediately, then many, many just become so damaged they can never lead normal lives. For the rest it's a long slow kill if you buy the data of cancer and autoimmune disease as having foundations in the vaccines.

This is truly the murder and maiming of millions of children and the untold anguish of their parents and families. They make Dr. Mengele look compassionate. No joke...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76130010


I understand your lack of spine. I fought the fight and did not vaccinate my kids and my daughter also fights for her own. We don't just hand our rights and the rights of others on a silver platter. You, by your own admission, didn't know how far you were willing to go to protect our rights. Those rights or lack thereof that you're handing over will be inherited by the children you say you are protecting.

I don't mean to be so hard on you or push you away to the point that you cannot take the reality of what I'm saying and seriously reflect upon it.

Yes, vaccines are killing us. Would I have forged papers? That's incomparable and to be honest, I don't know, probably not. I would have fought. I believe it's better to die fighting for one's life than to go silently. I don't believe the 'official narrative' of the Holocaust. Vaccines have exemptions. I don't think the Holocaust had exemptions. If your state doesn't then get your priorities straight and move. My state didn't allow homeschooling so I moved. I did this to protect my family. I fought for your rights and the rights of your children better than you did and that makes me sick.

Last Edited by janedoenut on 04/19/2019 03:09 PM
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Washington State last night moved to limit vaccine exemptions. California is attempting to greatly narrow it's remaining lone exemption category: medical. They are now trying to step in place of your doctor and basically only give medical exemptions to those who have already been injured by a vaccine. New York City, DeBlasio has confidently said his new vax mandates will survive all court challenges (because he's got the judges in his pocket).

Governments around this country are attempting to MANDATE that you be injected with a LIABILITY-FREE PRODUCT. You can't sue if you are harmed. You will get to sue HHS and the DOJ attorneys will be who you're up against.
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Bet ya if the laws were changed so these manufactures could be used we'd see a turnaround in the amounts of autism we'd see.
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"Vaccines have exemptions" but the States rule here, and many states are trying to eliminate them for children AND adults. If we don't fight this with everything we've got, we will have handed medical autonomy and liberty over for good. You may not care about vaccines (you should) but it will certainly not stop with them.
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There is no “vaccine debate”. If you believe that injecting heavy metals animal stem cells into your bloodstream is safe and a good idea just because the healthcare industry recommends it, you’re a fucking fool.

Fools usually deserve what they have coming to them. Again, there is no “debate”, apart from a bunch of know-nothing 20 and 30-something Americans who were raised on TV.. The indoctrination runs deep, it’s a “program”.

Avoid doctors at all costs, avoid hospitals at all costs. Eat healthier, know your body, read, and don’t seek “establishment” medical services unless you truly feel that your life could be in danger.
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If vaccines are so safe and so effective, and vaccine injury SO rare, then why do the pharmaceutical companies need liability protection from harm caused by vaccines? If it's sooooo rare, repeal the 1986 Act that started this now 50 billion dollar industry of vaccination. Pharma shouldn't need the protection if what they claim is true.
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great post, thanks for the video. vaxxed was also a great doc.
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Very good post and video. The short term side effects of vaccines and antimicrobials are studied in depth, but the long term effects, as would be with autism, are not well studied especially concerning approval for these products on the front end.
I see strong evidence for vaccine effects, but also for the Round-up related issues.
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great post, thanks for the video. vaxxed was also a great doc.
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Yes. If you haven't watched Vaxxed, it's a must-watch. Same with Trace Amounts, The Greater Good, and anything with Dr. Suzanne Humphries.
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Snark, you are an amazing woman! Thanks!
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I hear you, but I really questioned how far I was willing to go to protect my rights and my child, I cannot fault any parent when you have such an over reaching government trying to force us to harm our own children. My pain on this issue is soul wrenching, I am in daily anguish.

Would you have forged papers to save a child during the holocaust? I would have a million times over, this is a different type of holocaust, children are dying immediately, then many, many just become so damaged they can never lead normal lives. For the rest it's a long slow kill if you buy the data of cancer and autoimmune disease as having foundations in the vaccines.

This is truly the murder and maiming of millions of children and the untold anguish of their parents and families. They make Dr. Mengele look compassionate. No joke...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76130010


I understand your lack of spine. I fought the fight and did not vaccinate my kids and my daughter also fights for her own. We don't just hand our rights and the rights of others on a silver platter. You, by your own admission, didn't know how far you were willing to go to protect our rights. Those rights or lack thereof that you're handing over will be inherited by the children you say you are protecting.

I don't mean to be so hard on you or push you away to the point that you cannot take the reality of what I'm saying and seriously reflect upon it.

Yes, vaccines are killing us. Would I have forged papers? That's incomparable and to be honest, I don't know, probably not. I would have fought. I believe it's better to die fighting for one's life than to go silently. I don't believe the 'official narrative' of the Holocaust. Vaccines have exemptions. I don't think the Holocaust had exemptions. If your state doesn't then get your priorities straight and move. My state didn't allow homeschooling so I moved. I did this to protect my family. I fought for your rights and the rights of your children better than you did and that makes me sick.
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