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BREAKING! Canada grounds all Boeing 737 Max 8 and Max 9 planes

 
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Let's go back to 'fly by wire'. Get rid of the stupid 'glass' cockpits.
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fly by wire caused some of the biggest air disasters on record.
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Let's go back to 'fly by wire'. Get rid of the stupid 'glass' cockpits.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11376882


Modern airliners can't be flown at altitude without the use of an autopilot. Search on "Reduced Vertical Separation Minimum".

That being said, both of the crashes have occurred on takeoff, although I personally think the second one has nothing to do with this issue due to witnesses reporting the plane being on fire.
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Re: BREAKING! Canada grounds all Boeing 737 Max 8 and Max 9 planes
wow gay canadians realized just now that the software is a shitty piece of code but has the power to overrule the pilot inputs.

world is ending because of humans dumbness
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77162798


They were aware of the flaw. The only reason they didn't ground them yesterday is because they make up 40% of Air Canada's fleet. It's all about money.

The ONLY reason they are grounding them now is because the US did.
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03/13/2019 04:12 PM
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I'm currently in a 737 Max and we are in a nose dive, the plane is on fire and the guy in the seat next to me just crapped his pants.
Do you think the pilot can land this stupid plane or am I doomed?
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I'm currently in a 737 Max and we are in a nose dive, the plane is on fire and the guy in the seat next to me just crapped his pants.
Do you think the pilot can land this stupid plane or am I doomed?
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I'm currently in a 737 Max and we are in a nose dive, the plane is on fire and the guy in the seat next to me just crapped his pants.
Do you think the pilot can land this stupid plane or am I doomed?
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this won't last long... a few days?

they will review that pilots in first world countries have training to deal with the 'defect' and then they are back in the sky.

the third world countries I don't think it will be that fast.
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Canada grounds all Boeing 737 Max 8 and Max 9 planes
By Jordan PressThe Canadian Press
Wed., March 13, 2019

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Transport Minister Marc Garneau is closing Canadian skies to the Boeing 737 Max 8 aircraft, effectively grounding the planes over safety concerns arising from the crash of an Ethiopian Airlines flight that killed everyone on board, including 18 Canadians. (<50%)
 Quoting: NTimes


Everyone in the world is grounding this plane...
Who in the FAA is getting paid by Boeing?

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Let's go back to 'fly by wire'. Get rid of the stupid 'glass' cockpits.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11376882


Everything I've read says the Max is much more powerful than it's predecessor, and pilots do not have adequate training for this aircraft. They take off with too much speed that the autopilot tries to correct it. By then it's such a cluster fuck, and it's hard to regain control, as the plane is pitching down. Hopefully some pilots can chime in if I'm wrong.
 Quoting: Sodbuster


thats whats being seen

but what can cause unstable vertical speed after take off?
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Let's go back to 'fly by wire'. Get rid of the stupid 'glass' cockpits.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11376882


Modern airliners can't be flown at altitude without the use of an autopilot. Search on "Reduced Vertical Separation Minimum".

That being said, both of the crashes have occurred on takeoff, although I personally think the second one has nothing to do with this issue due to witnesses reporting the plane being on fire.
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bump
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Re: BREAKING! Canada grounds all Boeing 737 Max 8 and Max 9 planes
Canada grounds all Boeing 737 Max 8 and Max 9 planes
By Jordan PressThe Canadian Press
Wed., March 13, 2019

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Transport Minister Marc Garneau is closing Canadian skies to the Boeing 737 Max 8 aircraft, effectively grounding the planes over safety concerns arising from the crash of an Ethiopian Airlines flight that killed everyone on board, including 18 Canadians. (<%50)
 Quoting: NTimes


of course

they had better

theres no reason that auto pilot should be tilting the tip down

fucking ridiculous

make the planes right
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77349451


My dad is in palliative care in another city. I may have to jump on a flight at any time. This was a big relief!
 Quoting: NTimes


I'm so sorry. hf
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Re: BREAKING! Canada grounds all Boeing 737 Max 8 and Max 9 planes
Canada grounds all Boeing 737 Max 8 and Max 9 planes
By Jordan PressThe Canadian Press
Wed., March 13, 2019

[link to www.thestar.com (secure)]

Transport Minister Marc Garneau is closing Canadian skies to the Boeing 737 Max 8 aircraft, effectively grounding the planes over safety concerns arising from the crash of an Ethiopian Airlines flight that killed everyone on board, including 18 Canadians. (<%50)
 Quoting: NTimes


of course

they had better

theres no reason that auto pilot should be tilting the tip down

fucking ridiculous

make the planes right
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77349451


My dad is in palliative care in another city. I may have to jump on a flight at any time. This was a big relief!
 Quoting: NTimes


awww

sometimes we have no choice but to get on the planes

good that they grounded them
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Re: BREAKING! Canada grounds all Boeing 737 Max 8 and Max 9 planes
wow gay canadians realized just now that the software is a shitty piece of code but has the power to overrule the pilot inputs.

world is ending because of humans dumbness
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77162798


They were aware of the flaw. The only reason they didn't ground them yesterday is because they make up 40% of Air Canada's fleet. It's all about money.

The ONLY reason they are grounding them now is because the US did.
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Unfortunately, politics and $$$$ always play a role in these kinds of situations.
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03/13/2019 05:20 PM
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Will hurt Boeing's pocket book HARD!! There goes all your sales beeches!!
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Re: BREAKING! Canada grounds all Boeing 737 Max 8 and Max 9 planes
In fact all the fatal airlines crashes last year were airlines flown by foreign pilots.
 Quoting: RobertNpc

What about Atlas Air Flight 3591? .... Oh yes, that was this year.


There were as many accidents within the Airbus 320 family as there involving Boeing 737s in year 2018 and all operated by foreign airlines companies.
You don't hear of them grounding the Airbus 320's now do you? Hell no!
 Quoting: RobertNpc

Incidents/Accidents involving Airbus 320 Family vs Boeing 737 in 2018:

Boeing: 8 Incidents/Accidents - 304 Fatalities
Airbus: 0 Incidents/Accidents - 0 Fatalities

Thus why ground Airbus? You should do your homework before posting.

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Re: BREAKING! Canada grounds all Boeing 737 Max 8 and Max 9 planes
Let's go back to 'fly by wire'. Get rid of the stupid 'glass' cockpits.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11376882


Everything I've read says the Max is much more powerful than it's predecessor, and pilots do not have adequate training for this aircraft. They take off with too much speed that the autopilot tries to correct it. By then it's such a cluster fuck, and it's hard to regain control, as the plane is pitching down. Hopefully some pilots can chime in if I'm wrong.
 Quoting: Sodbuster


thats whats being seen

but what can cause unstable vertical speed after take off?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77349451


Software trying to override pilot control.
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Boeing posted revenue of $101 billion last year, and a $10.6 billion profit. It had forecast even stronger results this year. So for grounding 737 for 3 months they will lose 5 billion. So 1 year grounding will lose 20 billion. There goes all of Boeing profits for the next 4 years!!! Stock will crash HARD in the coming weeks, once people realize the impact of this.
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Re: BREAKING! Canada grounds all Boeing 737 Max 8 and Max 9 planes
wow gay canadians realized just now that the software is a shitty piece of code but has the power to overrule the pilot inputs.

world is ending because of humans dumbness
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77162798


wow funny u should say that, if you're really from germany you have absolutely nothing to call us out on, you're basically ground zero for all this fucking migration bullshit and the reason why the EU is breaking apart.

if your behind a proxy and from the USA, then you're country is just as bad even worse, they just called it AFTER us.
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03/13/2019 06:01 PM

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Re: BREAKING! Canada grounds all Boeing 737 Max 8 and Max 9 planes
wow gay canadians realized just now that the software is a shitty piece of code but has the power to overrule the pilot inputs.

world is ending because of humans dumbness
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77162798


wow funny u should say that, if you're really from germany you have absolutely nothing to call us out on, you're basically ground zero for all this fucking migration bullshit and the reason why the EU is breaking apart.

if your behind a proxy and from the USA, then you're country is just as bad even worse, they just called it AFTER us.
 Quoting: Druidistic


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03/13/2019 06:27 PM
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Re: BREAKING! Canada grounds all Boeing 737 Max 8 and Max 9 planes
Sounds to me they need to re-evaluate their employees....sabotage.
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Employees? I was under the impression they brought in contract workers from all over the world, and components, too.
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