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The rapture occurs AFTER the tribulation...not before or during. | |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 73649866 United States02/26/2019 12:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | which one of those is the 'last trump'? Jesus comes to earth at the end of the Tribulation. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76373377 So why would believers in Christ be Raptured away then and where to? the saints are taken to the sea of glass for during the 7 bowls of wrath. that's rev 15:1-4 you're going to get skewered op, but you're correct. the early church always taught pre-wrath. why wouldn't the apostles have corrected them? The first time the pre-tribulation was taught was the writings of a catholic Jesuit priest Emmanuel Lacunza published in 1811, 10 years after his death, then translated into English by Scottish minister Edward Irving then in 1827 John Nelson Darby and the Plymouth brethren then the Scofield reference bible. Everyone before this taught post-tribulation. (pre-bowls-of-wrath) Quoting: anon |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77133172  Australia02/26/2019 12:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Noah was rescued before the flood, Lot and family were rescued before the meteor strike...God always rescues his chosen before catastrophes strike. Quoting: KimJungUn Notice they were not raptured though. They had to trust the Lord and obey instructions to the letter to survive. Sames going to be the case during the tribulation. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76373377 United States02/26/2019 12:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The first time the pre-tribulation was taught was the writings of a catholic Jesuit priest Emmanuel Lacunza published in 1811, 10 years after his death, then translated into English by Scottish minister Edward Irving then in 1827 John Nelson Darby and the Plymouth brethren then the Scofield reference bible. Everyone before this taught post-tribulation. (pre-bowls-of-wrath) Quoting: anonFalse. [link to youtu.be (secure)] |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77223038 United States02/26/2019 01:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus comes to earth at the end of the Tribulation. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76373377 So why would believers in Christ be Raptured away then and where to? Luke 21:36 New King James Version (NKJV) 36 Watch therefore, and pray always that you may [a]be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man.” Parable of the wise 'n foolish virgins.... You don't know when the Son of Man cometh.... We don't know when the thief comes.... (doesn't work for mid or post... sorry).  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 73649866 United States02/26/2019 01:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Luke 21:36 New King James Version (NKJV) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77223038 36 Watch therefore, and pray always that you may [a]be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man.” noah escaped the flood. and he was absolutely there for it. You don't know when the Son of Man cometh.... We don't know when the thief comes.... (doesn't work for mid or post... sorry). Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77223038 you realize Rosh Hashanah, Yom Teruah is never known in advance. Jewish law determines it precisely by the first sighting of the new moon, by witnesses. Literally, no one knows what day or hour it will be. we do know, however, there is only one last trumpet. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77405031 United States02/26/2019 02:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Noah was rescued before the flood, Lot and family were rescued before the meteor strike...God always rescues his chosen before catastrophes strike. Quoting: KimJungUn Not true. Just read Daniel 3 where 3 servant of God were cast into a fiery furnace and lived while those who threw them in died from the heat. or Daniel 6, Where Daniel is cast into the lions den and God shuts the lions mouth, but when the people who accused him were cast in they were devoured. Or consider; Psalm 91:7 King James Version (KJV) 7 A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand; but it shall not come nigh thee. Clearly God has the power to protect His people while at the same time, others suffer His indignation at the same time, place and interval. The Rapture theory denies God this power. God removes the chaff from the wheat, NOT the wheat from the threshing floor. How about; Proverbs 10:30 King James Version (KJV) 30 The righteous shall never be removed: but the wicked shall not inhabit the earth. Clearly, the rapture is NOT of God in all His Wisdom, but of man in his unrighteous and unholy rebellion. Choose who you will follow. The lies of a false doctrine or will you give Glory and Honor to God? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 75926669 United States02/26/2019 02:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not before or during the tribulation. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77408232 If the righteous are raptured before the tribulation, it wouldn't be called the tribulation. Instead it would be called the judgment of the wicked. If they are raptured during the tribulation then it defeats the purpose of the anti-christ oppressing the righteous. Not to mention they will be denied the opportunity to see the glorious second coming....the moment they all lived for. We are required to seek God's help to endure the tribulation. I believe that it's only after the kingdom of God is established that the rapture occurs. During that time, the righteous will RULE and the wicked will submit and get in line. At this point everything on earth would have been fulfilled. So the righteous will be raptured. And when that occurs, evil will rise again and will take over the world. And only then will the earth be destroyed. Once that's done, it's time for the resurrection and the judgement. Yes, but when is the pancake breakfast? |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77405031 United States02/26/2019 02:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Luke 21:36 New King James Version (NKJV) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77223038 36 Watch therefore, and pray always that you may [a]be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man.” noah escaped the flood. and he was absolutely there for it. You don't know when the Son of Man cometh.... We don't know when the thief comes.... (doesn't work for mid or post... sorry). Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77223038 you realize Rosh Hashanah, Yom Teruah is never known in advance. Jewish law determines it precisely by the first sighting of the new moon, by witnesses. Literally, no one knows what day or hour it will be. we do know, however, there is only one last trumpet.  |
| Lee User ID: 77228433 United States02/26/2019 02:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not before or during the tribulation. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77408232 If the righteous are raptured before the tribulation, it wouldn't be called the tribulation. Instead it would be called the judgment of the wicked. If they are raptured during the tribulation then it defeats the purpose of the anti-christ oppressing the righteous. Not to mention they will be denied the opportunity to see the glorious second coming....the moment they all lived for. We are required to seek God's help to endure the tribulation. I believe that it's only after the kingdom of God is established that the rapture occurs. During that time, the righteous will RULE and the wicked will submit and get in line. At this point everything on earth would have been fulfilled. So the righteous will be raptured. And when that occurs, evil will rise again and will take over the world. And only then will the earth be destroyed. Once that's done, it's time for the resurrection and the judgement. If you're reading this comment you've been raptured. It means go get tortured in the spirit to feed the monsters. That's why the saints are yelling from the grave. In no saint though too smart for that. I'm a hammer for a world of crooked nails Satan...scrapped out. |
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User ID: 76474639 Sweden02/26/2019 03:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Noah was rescued before the flood, Lot and family were rescued before the meteor strike...God always rescues his chosen before catastrophes strike. Quoting: KimJungUn A better example is Enoch, he got translated (raptured). Also you have the Church disappear at Revelation chapter 4. Some more: [link to www.jesus-is-savior.com (secure)] and some more: [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] AltSwede |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77408625 India02/26/2019 03:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | His Bible knowledge is very limited. Post tribbers are basically Bible illiterates or secret papists.  I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. (revelation 20:4) If they were all raptured before the tribulation then how did they resist taking the mark and worshiping the beast? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77408625 India02/26/2019 03:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | His Bible knowledge is very limited. Post tribbers are basically Bible illiterates or secret papists. I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. (revelation 20:4) If they were all raptured before the tribulation then how did they resist taking the mark and worshiping the beast? If they were all raptured before the tribulation then why were they beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus? |
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User ID: 80313222  China08/22/2022 09:53 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is no rapture its a doctrine of demons and jesuits Rapture exposed Thread: The rapture is a christian excuse for NOT facing ones fears and duty to God. Thread: HERE IS PROOF THAT THE RAPTURE TEACHING AS TAUGHT BY OUR CHURCHES IS A LIE! Thread: 7 year tribulation and rapture are NOT biblical. Thread: If you believe in the rapture you are not a Christian or a follower of Christ - you are a Darbyist Thread: the sleeper church doctrine of RAPTURE proved wrong by the simple word AIR! Thread: Pre-Trib rapture doctrine misleads people into worshiping the Antichrist who will claim to be God Thread: WARNING: There Is NO Rapture - Final Proof Thread: The Rapture is not in the bible. You WANT to be Left Behind Thread: The "Rapture" is the GREAT DECEPTION spoken of in II Thessalonians. Thread: Some people on here tend to believe the scofield/Darby changes to the bible. These are false, no rapture! Thread: The Pre-tribulation Rapture is Jesuit authored FALSE DOCTRINE! Thread: The reason the two jesuits invented the rapture Belief doctrine Thread: PLEASE WAKE UP! The Rapture teaching is misleading many Christians. Thread: JOHN NELSON DARBY INVENTED THE RAPTURE!!! Thread: The error being taught to 90% of all Christians on the Rapture of the Church any Moment! Thread: THERE IS NO RAPTURE-RAPTURE THEORY IS FROM A WOMAN - NOT SCRIPTURE! Thread: The "RAPTURE" Doctrine is a LIE! Thread: new Protestant message, the imputation heresy, the Rapture lie and Christians must be of one belief YAHshua the sound of His Name in English, YAH is short form of YHVH, Bible.PRAYERBOOK.Praisebook DOWNLOADs [link to www.docdroid.net (secure)] [link to pdfhost.io (secure)] [link to www.docdroid.net (secure)] |
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