GOD is an objective phenomenon

OP, do you feel emotion - either good or bad? Or are you just cold, dark and empty inside?

I certainly do, mister. Actually, I've been analyzing my subjective world for a long time, and there is no god there, it's just my own conditional existence. People are basically liars.

The terminology 'GOD', as it is understood by most today, is a relatively new construct! This understanding is actually not found in either ancient religions or their cultures, however, the modern concept has been overlaid over the concepts of 'Supreme Being' and other, top of the food chain, hierarchical beings! These were in all cases, flesh and blood beings who were so advanced, or wielded so much power, that the peoples of the times referred to them as 'living gods'! Point in case - the Pharaohs of Egypt.

So I do agree with you in that the concept of 'God' as it is understood today, does not exist in reality, however, I believe that 'God' does exist - it's just not in the way that most would perceive when they hear or read the term 'God'!

You talk about meditation, yet don't seem to have a qualified opinion. (You have not meditated.) It is not about language, it is about quality and energy. When you sit still in the darkness, adopt a concentration technique such as following the breathing, something that focuses concentration. Yet remain passive and at peace. The mind will change in ways that you may have not remembered. It can become absorbed. The discursive conceptual state is exactly what needs to fall away for meditation. Also will be realized life force, and that mind is one with it. All kinds of benefit comes about from such practice.

Could you define your understanding of "god" please?

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What is a life force? And how is mind one with it? The mind can be suicidal, and go against the so called life force, no?

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Of course, but please realize that this is purely my 'objective perspective'!

You have said that you feel emotion. What do you think emotion is - whether positive or negative? From my perspective, emotion is an impulse or energy we feel in response to an external stimulus. But that impulse arises from something that is also external. Some say that this is what spirit is - energy that possesses either a positive or negative charge or a myriad of grey areas in between. Therefore, my understanding is that God is equated to the 'spirit of love', more precisely, unconditional love. It has no mind, thought or creative power of itself but rather provides the energy or impulse behind the mind's thinking and creative power! Such an impulse could just as easily be a negative one and in this case, rather than ascribing it to the impulse of God or Good, it would be ascribed to the impulse of Bad or Evil.

You could say that the life force controlling everything has a personality, which is interacting with the human. This is the reason why the People gave a Name to it in first line.

It is also very certain that not all People are able or wasnt in the favor the recognize Patterns and ways of communication which are very personal in nature.

Nope nope nope. God is a really big invisible guy with a white beard sitting up in the sky somewhere on an invisible throne.

Right, "external stimulus"... This is actually my basic point. This to me ultimately means that there is no such thing as a sole "thing in itself" (ie; God), isolated from all other things, an unconditioned reality of its own. There is basically no such thing. And that makes one a finite quality of an inexplicable, chaotic infinity. This I believe is the solid proof that all abstract concepts can only arise within language, they are all temporal mental constructs.

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I'm not sure I can explain it very well. It is an energy in the body that is tangible, experientially substantial, as real as if you poked your finger into your ribs. It is living and has the nature of light and bliss. It is also experienced intuitively as the same as thought focused in such meditative intention. Again, realization is about energy, at least on a level, as so much more could be said concerning love, for example. But words separate things where they need not be. Advancement is increasingly subtle. I am not a master.

The atheistic view sure is a sad state of existence. So lonely...


Ego is too strong to entertain the idea of intelligence outside of itself...


Seems like a hopeless existence to me...

God is Subjective Relative...

This thread is not really about atheism, which is an ideology. It's about understanding the nature of existence as-it-is.

Signs of alien and extraterrestial among us
1. They eat vegan foods because they cannot handle protein from animal meats.
2. They deny Jesus Christ openly and support anything opposing Jesus Christ.
3. They promote vegan lifestyles to harm human beings.
4. They created the common cold to weaken humanity so as to shorten our lifespan and have us give into them.
5. Those stars you see move in the sky, the Arizona lights are aliens trying to influence the masses to revere aliens.
6. They wear skins like greys do but they implement drugs to cause seizures in people to ignore it.
7. Some may be biblical fallen angels or descend from them, if they are among human beings they are FALLEN from their own government/intergalactic area, they are CRIMINALS.
8. Some may very well be the damned posing as Angels of light to trick you into following them into a cult or religion.
9. They hate tattoos.
10. They wear a lot of cosmetic make up because they smell like burnt beef.
11. They post on Internet websites checking to see if someone is in the know and threaten them if they see real info being presented.
12. They charge you with false crimes and try to keep you in jail for any little thing you do.
13. They pose as police officers but are not. Their vehicle markings are off, LOOK CLOSELY.
14. They hate posts like these ones. They will get admins to ban it or they will try to say it is evil or crazy.
15. They try to take over your family and they do it by purchasing your image/likeness rights (their laws allow it).
16. Most can't handle extreme cold areas and will leave the area until warmer climates happen.