Need some creative help to change a song...."The Halls of Montezuma"

i tried my best was all i could have done. i admit i lost badly here, the chaos was interesting though.

i will retreat to the next defensive line for thursday's vote (main motion and ammendments) on extending article 50.

fuck.

thats the 3rd time yvette cooper has screwed us on the votes every 2 weeks.

reverse speach told me that yvette an irish woman was the creator of this creation. what am i supposed to think, well im starting to believe she really is the creator, a woman called yvette (not yvette cooper obviosuly she is just her namesake)

i know the entire divine femenine are blocking brexit too, courtesy of reverse speach.

so are the el / elohim.

things look very bleak, i dont want to be so negative or add my energy to it but it looks like brexit wont happen.

a little one was taken today too.

Why fuck with a classic? It's people like you who like to revise history.

i have only just unravelled the mental spagghetti of todays vote.

see..
What are the amendments on no-deal Brexit and how did MPs vote?
[link to www.theguardian.com (secure)]

then see..
No Deal Brexit: Search how your MP voted as 13 Tory ministers defy Theresa May
[link to www.mirror.co.uk (secure)]

i knew that labour and cobryn would whip the votes to get as many as they could to pass their anti brexit stuff, i believe that was what happened.

in short form, there was one main bill / vote that was created by the conservaties and theressa may, it was..

mainbill>>Theresa May’s motion on a no-deal Brexit - rule out leaving with a no deal brexit on 29 March 2019.
Passed by 321 votes to 278, a majority of 43 [taken from another news article].
((may had said she would allow a free vote on this by her conservative mp's. she said she would personally vote for this bill, she backed it, she created it, allowing a free vote was way better than whipping her conservative mp's to vote FOR it, i believe pressure from brexiteers in her party stopped her doing that.))

there were two ammendments to the above main bill that were up for vote first, if they each passed the vote they would be added to the text of the main bill above and lastly mp's would vote on tmhe main bill including any ammendments that won by vote...

ammendment 1>> no no-deal ever.
Passed by 312 votes to 308, a majority of four.
((this was stronger wording than the main bill, labour mp yvette cooper managed to get this through to a vote, the conservatives tried to get it dropped but that did not work.

ammendment 2>> Malthouse compromise.
Defeated by 374 votes to 164, a majority of 210.
((i didnt understand this too well but because it had an extension to article 50 i wanted this ammendment to be defeated and it was.


****what i have realized is just how close i/we(idk if grumpier helped) came to winning on all 3 votes (the main bill & 2 ammendments). i see the path the magic took in order to try and win this for us. ammendment1 vote was so close, i actually believe the magic choose to lose that on purpose in order for that ammendment to be added to the main bill, which in turn panicked theresa may into last minute whipping her conservative mps into voting against her own mainbill, this never would have happened any other way. it seems like it was our only chance and we nearly succeeded, but 17 conservative mps defied the whip forcing tmhem to vote against the bill and actually voted for it, some more conservatives abstained. together this would have shifted the vote by more than the required 43 votes to find. it failed and the rest is history. soo close thouggh. i actually sat out the 45+ minutes of them voting and didnt listen or do magic as i didnt want an early defeat to make me down and fear more losses, thus manifestingg it, with huindsight it seems that was the wrong thing to do, but even if id done the opposite and done a last magic during i doubt i could have shhifted that manyy votes. concluding it was the rebel consertavtive mps that voted the wrong way and abstained that lost us this, if that had not happened and to that degree we would have got our way on all 3 votes.****

i think i see where things went wrong yesterday.

in asking for many things with my magic some were contradictory and there was no clear path to victory by design.

it was pure mental spagghetti yesterday and today it is even worse, massively worse. i cant ask for the usual things i ask for, because they are contradictory, also some can win some cant. its like chopping of your leg in the hopes to save your body, but you will probably lose your body anyway plus another x number of bodies.

i dont think i can do anything with todays brexit spaghetti vote, i am yet to try even and honestly dont think i should. there seems no point in asking for all the usual or even just one thing.

example i ask for a no deal outcome still and ammendments cvould get voted in that make things worse for brexit to happen, just to get a vote defeated that may not work anyway.

with labour and others whipping usually. it does not matter if the conservatives whip one way, the other or not at all.. it seems even whipped the right way the mps wont all respect it.

if i were to say in magic, only stop an extension of article 50, perhaps an ammendment like a second referendum will get voted in by the magic in its path in order for the conservative gov to whip agaisnt its own mainbill to try and defeat it like yesterday, and probably fail anyway then we are stuck having another referendum.

my head can only work out a small proportion of this mental spaghetti, i can foresee only a small number of possible problems.

yesterday the magic didnt know what to do, today it would be even worse.

see ammendments selected for vote today here...
[link to www.theguardian.com (secure)]

i cant find the main bill text for today tabled by the conservative gov, but it will say something like we will extend article 50 for a few months.

from memory, the main bill put forward by the conservative government for today is seeking a small extension of article 50 of a couple/few months, but also for therresa may to put her deal forward for a 3rd vote in a week on the coming wednesday. there is talk that the speaker who picks ammendments could rule out putting the same bill forward - her deal for a third time because it has already been defeated heavily twice.

one of the ammendments wants to ammend the main bill to rule out mays deal being voted on a third time and instead let the house decide on another way forward. this is ammendment J. Bryant amendment.

now if i do magic to make ammendment J fail, the conservative gov is likely to fully back the main bill and i lose.

if ammendment J passes with or without my help, the labour party will likely back mays main bill, idk how may would whhip then but it looks like i would fail this way.

im a bit uncertain of this, the working out... its confusing as fk.

anyway with this or doing anyything else i see no path to victory today at all.

glp if you can unravel tmhe mental spaghetti, problem solve it follow the leads to their conclusions to suggest magic today i can do to win this for brexit.

regarding the main bill today and the ammendments.

please suggest your ideas including working out and i will consider doing the magic.

...

From the Halls of Montezuma
To the streets of Battersea;
We fight our traitor Parliament
To save democracy;
First to fight for right and freedom
And to keep our honor clean;
We are proud to claim the title
Brexit Evergreen.

Our flag's unfurled to every breeze
From dawn to setting sun;
We have fought the bloody Globalists
And got them on the run;
In the streets of far-off Northern towns
And in sunny southern scenes,
You will find us always on the job
The Brexit Evergreens.

interesting but i needed help with what magic to do today tess, np tho the voting has begun.

[link to www.bbc.co.uk (secure)]

good info here on whats coming re brexit.

other than a couple small magics i have not participated.

its over, i lost badly. i do not have enough power, i am still unsure why i lost, my guide made it clear it is s omething to do with the colour black.

i will not play for scraps, or to try and choose the manner i/we all lost in. nor would any further magic from me likely help.

its over for me and brexit.

the way things have gone and are going it looks like brexit will get cancelled sooner or later. much less likely we will get a very watered down soft brexit. those are the only possibilities i see.

i tried.

Bad troll, it should not be changed.

Just like you should not try to revise history to your liking. (confederate statues) being taken down.

Do you not realize in your own troll that the first line is in mexico in a war we won?

As a Marine I think your thread is pretty gay

From the hall of Montezuma to the shores of Tripoli

We have been fighting against the Muslims who dont want us to be free.

We fight with honor and respect for all who wish to just be.



The Marines were initially created to stop the Muslim scourge in the Mediterranean. They were attacking us merchant ships and taking the crew as slaves. They said it was their god given right to do this to the infidels. Not much has changed since then. The Marines had to fight these ruthless heathens on the shore of Libya, Tripoli to be exact.

Just stop?

Respect is one thing and fine.....but you aren't embarassed? Its child ish. (As the glp word changer...)

Last Edited by Timur2020 on 03/23/2019 12:17 AM